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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 1:51:48 GMT -6
Well Lois that's a link between us..books and poetry. I've had a need to write since I was very little and I wrote a fantasy story once that my teacher called my father on saying it was way over my age. She was wondering if he knew who I stole it from. One of the only times he backed me up and told her I'd written it. I wrote a lot of poetry and two books. Hmmms...Sky writes..Lorelei writes..Jo writes..Lois writes..I know bewildered does too. It's always seemed like most of us here are more right brained BUT
[tr]Left brain is good at responding to verbal instructions. Left brain is the region for language and has centers for speech and hearing. So, left brained people are usually good at expressing themselves in words, and so, like to talk and write.[/tr]
Right Brain:
Is thought to result in more intuitive, thoughtful and subjective thinking Better suited to expressive and creative tasks Typically associated with facial recognition, emotions, music aptitude, colors and images, intuition and creativity
Left Brain: Is thought to result in more logical, analytical and objective thinking More suitable for tasks involving logic, language and analytical thinking Typically associated with language, logic, critical thinking, numbers and reasoning
I'm much more right brained over all.. intuitive, creative, emotional and musical but I have this strong language bent.
So this now I find a bit interesting among our 'test cases' here on the forum anyway ;D
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Post by Steve on Feb 26, 2012 7:52:59 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Feb 26, 2012 12:52:10 GMT -6
Cliff wrote Did you ever see "them" pick up a person or object ? The reason I ask is because they ( 2 grays) carried someone into the living room to show me she was o.k. and as short and scrawny as these things were, her weight (medium size) seemed insignificant Cliff, once they picked my girlfriend's car up after some beeps we heard. We were in the car at the time but our memory is lost to what happen. We did find oursleves the next second on the other side of town..If they can do that they can do it with any object. I'm trying to get a photo of the car under my experiences. .. It was a very small car. Nash Rambler, made in the late 50s. When the aliens carried her they probably did not feel her weight at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 14:22:35 GMT -6
I think Cliff is asking about the actual aliens picking people up with their arms... not the UFO with beams of light...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 14:43:36 GMT -6
In the video you state your brother was chasing an orange object and that's when the radiation and magnetic anomalies occured and was traced on the suv . On the evening of Oct. 20th, 2011 ( its stated here in the forum) during the Missouri UFO flap of that month when many other sightings occured, I was outside and witnessed 2 orange 'things' descend from the sky and hovered and danced for about(at least) 30 minutes. One of the objects started coming my direction and seemed to scan over my house followed by an object displaying strobing lights in a parallelogram . My eardrum burst within a short time later (within about a day or so?)and the doctor at the E.R. said it wasn't common for a person my age(44) to have this happen. I literally woke up and blood had been gushing out of my eardrum ! You stated also that your brother had nosebleeds as a result. I wanted to think these orange things were manmade probes of some type but I know better . Do you remember the date that this happened ? Sorry, I must've missed that part. Please again correct me if Im wrong. I know its important to keep the facts straight and kudos to you for doing so !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 15:15:01 GMT -6
Hi Tom . I go by jcurio here. It is short for just curious because that is generally how I stumble across information. I then find out that my curiosity is a good thing. I'm glad I still have curiosity . Like many of my age group, that same healthy curiosity was squelched when I was younger. Some people here also refer to me as "JC", and that is even easier. I'm ok with that. Cliff(touched) had a forum friend that had a similar name, and I just don't want to be confused with that poster. Not because this "joe" was a bad character, or anything such. For histories' sake, I met all these wonderful people here on teor (except lorelei ) on another forum. That forum was shut down temporarily, possibly due to regular conversations about so-called psychic abilities. There were also a few "religious-type" posters there that made noises and concerns beyond what is considered scientifically and politically correct. Of course there were other things going on behind the scenes there. I must admit that I was willing and ready to argue about the religious topic, so I considered changing my name when I came onto teor. I didn't, knowing that eventually my personality would show thru another name. I don't sincerely believe that all those conversations on the other forum are gone. I am reluctant to repeat myself, just for the sake of the time it takes to repeat myself. . That is frustrating to others here, also. I am not reluctant to clarify something I've said or done. Anything can be misread or interpreted differently than what was intended . I do strongly recommend that no one give in to the temptation of "skimming" someone elses writings. I have done it myself, and missed important details. Even random comments have stimulated important thought processes, IMO. I told on the other forum, very few of my experiences. I was more comfortable talking about my dead grandfather visiting me (in a dream state), than about my parents finding me in odd places outside as a child. I am slowly sharing these oddities here on teor. _____________________________________________________ Yes, I have identical twin daughters. Their birth did raise the level of excitement in my family, as we only have (2) other sets of twins (distant cousins) that we know of. We were able to locate one other birth of twins in our family history that died shortly after birth. This is probably the case in other families as well, I mean, the birth and death of twins in the past due to complications. It has been a wonderful experience for me. I only commented on the "twin bond" because that seems to be an accepted psychic link. I'm assuming we've all heard about that. . . . and I can go into more detail on that at another time. For example: Has everyone heard of "twin language"? My daughters did it. Fortunately, it evolved into one of them speaking that way, and the other one speaking back in discernible English, so I knew somewhat what was being said. Then one day I just noticed they no longer did it at all. For me, and having a third child around, it was a very brief time period. I did dream that I was having twins. The type of dream it was, only now gives me pause. I dreamed that I was laying on a table, and a doctor or technician told me. That was it. Except that I dreamed this twice. I dreamed the exact same thing before the pregnancy of my son, and we now believe that I miscarried his twin early in the pregnancy due to hormonal imbalances (?). I have explained this on another thread, here. So, on the repeat of the "twin dream" I went in to my doctor for an early check-up and found out what I needed to be taking to keep my twins. It was still considered a high-risk pregnancy, and even with being on bedrest during the last part, I had them a month early. No big deal. I myself was born a month early.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 16:49:55 GMT -6
Wow, I don't remember you sharing about the twins in your family... or the twin that "vanished"... wow. Thanks for bringing it up again because I seem to have forgotten... No twins in my family that I know of...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 17:12:41 GMT -6
cliff (touched), I was able to download and view the above video after going to a downstairs room of my house (we can't do it upstairs even though our router is upstairs ?). Tom says 2009 in the video. I believe the exact date is listed somewhere else. He does state the reason he now goes public with his experiences is because of the scientific evidence of the 2009 incident. I'm glad you are willing to admit that your sighting and ear drum burst may be related. Maybe . I have a hard time with this issue. I'd like to think that because these "things" have been visiting us for such a long time (?) that their technology would not hurt us. As for humans trying to "mimic" this technology, I expect major errors. For example, in the Cash/Landrum case (spelling) we know of civilians having injuries. Those unfortunate civilians feel they also witnessed possible military staff on site. How many military individuals were also injured? Will we ever know? Tom, I like your sense of humor. (referenced with a governor riding a go-cart ). I too feel like "we" are only allowed to advance so far. . .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 17:21:05 GMT -6
Wow, I don't remember you sharing about the twins in your family... or the twin that "vanished"... wow. Thanks for bringing it up again because I seem to have forgotten... Lorelei, this subject came up after you (dream) thought you could be pregnant. I was going on and on about the importance of getting to the doctor soon, and this was why. I am becoming more and more concerned about my memory, and other's difficulties remembering here, so please don't take this as a "slam". It may just be the recent stress in our lives....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 17:28:54 GMT -6
cliff (touched), I was able to download and view the above video after going to a downstairs room of my house (we can't do it upstairs even though our router is upstairs ?). Tom says 2009 in the video. I believe the exact date is listed somewhere else. He does state the reason he now goes public with his experiences is because of the scientific evidence of the 2009 incident. I'm glad you are willing to admit that your sighting and ear drum burst may be related. Maybe . I have a hard time with this issue. I'd like to think that because these "things" have been visiting us for such a long time (?) that their technology would not hurt us. As for humans trying to "mimic" this technology, I expect major errors. For example, in the Cash/Landrum case (spelling) we know of civilians having injuries. Those unfortunate civilians feel they also witnessed possible military staff on site. How many military individuals were also injured? Will we ever know? Tom, I like your sense of humor. (referenced with a governor riding a go-cart ). I too feel like "we" are only allowed to advance so far. . . Thanks Jc. I just went through and found it also. I was unable til a short time ago to search through the videos due to my recent malfunction with the computer situation. I find this case interesting but sorry they all had to go through it. It seems many of us are exposed to similar situations,,,,, I cant say one way or another if my ear was caused by the object but the timing was close .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2012 17:50:54 GMT -6
My memory has never been good JC. This is nothing new with me... no offense received.
Lots of people make fun of me because of my poor memory. I'm a ditz, and I admit it. This is nothing new for me, but I know you were not poking fun at me.
Stress or no stress, things just seem to "slip away" from me... and it happens a lot more with me than with most people my age...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 20:23:21 GMT -6
I looked for the new CBS interview (from last night). I can find anything on the internet except a video H E L P ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 20:30:28 GMT -6
oops! I meant " RADIO" show. (let's just put it this way. Y'all know about me and the printed word ) jc
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Post by Steve on Feb 27, 2012 20:44:11 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 20:49:44 GMT -6
Thanks for the link Steve. The podcast isn't available yet though... will be checking on it because I really want to hear it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 20:50:33 GMT -6
Thanks Steve ! (I did find this: Medical tattoos with vital information replacing bracelets for some (February 27, 2012 at What an idea
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 0:36:53 GMT -6
I hope the two of you are more comfortable here than you were on the other forum Mr. Reed. I like it here a lot, and I hope you both shall as well. ~hugz~
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Post by Steve on Feb 28, 2012 3:49:22 GMT -6
Thanks Steve ! (I did find this: Medical tattoos with vital information replacing bracelets for some (February 27, 2012 at What an idea Welcome again to both you and your friend. There is this comfortable supportive tone here that one cannot just invent or create/buy. Like planting a vineyard and expecting to produce a remarkable product over one planting season. It is demonstrated by many here both in little and little big ways. A few portending to know about the abduction field should visit the native inhabitants here for a while, they may learn something. Some who might pronounce themselves authorities about UFOs or abduction must humbly recognize with strength of character how little we truly really know yet. I think the best ones are distinguished from others if they freely acknowledge that. Those who may visit and hopefully stay here to share might confuse a 'ufo believer' with a 'knower'. It's still too early for everyone to form conclusions. Visitors may make a mistake if they fail to recognize and respect those ordinary people that have seen the phenomenon up close and far too personal for their comfort. These 'knowers' did not go looking for this. Others maybe wasting time doing the perfectly natural thing by struggling to reconcile or accept within. Instead - learn from it. For example: A UFO researcher in the field with their boots on if too 'nuts and bolts' will throw out the baby with the bath water too soon if they fail to only accept an experiencer must show evidence of an 'alien implant' for instance. That sort of evidence would be still wonderful, but much evidence has been produced already, yet I still don't see many scientists rushing forward sticking many of their grant based science reputations on the line. There is much more that must be examined and learned from over time. Implants for example come and go, are removed and replaced back. The phenomenon is highly intelligent, and is anything but static. This implies one clear forgone conclusion, but enough evidence is there to support the phenomenon knows 'poker' as well as chess. It is proactive and works covertly. Implants reposition themselves in other places of the human body, even the implant itself has been observed to move and conceal itself as if intelligently. Implants even reappear later after the X-rays have long since been developed, and whatever may have been concluded. There is also a general 'summing up' too that must be recognized. I have done a number of abduction cases, and even more (over 300 plus easy) UFO cases enough to know UFO cases and abduction cases 'play' or 'pan out' at different musical cadences. If for example a abduction case reveals rare physical evidence, move quickly to secure that evidence with dispatch, but at the same time move slower on the human element exposed to the same event with the appropriate balance of compassion and dispassionate observation. It is a lot about being simply a good listener (my dear wife's personal views about that excluded). ;D The witness or experiencer may still be processing what they thought happened. Any investigator recognizing this will benefit hugely for all parties involved. An apparent landing imprint is gathered, but what the witness experienced associated with that landing mark on the ground is likely still processing coping with what has challenged their own personal reality. In working with experiencers closely with a certified colleague in hypnotic regression sessions - or from conscious memories - I have noticed it is important to audio record the experiencers initial raw impressions. A person may describe what is often regarded as 'this thing', then 'a being', then a humanoid' as the coping mechanism of the human mind works it out over time. It is the mind's conscous or uconscous way of humanizing trying to relate based on past human associations. It is one thing when one can be spot confabualation by their body language, and the old police trick of a liars inability to relate a false story backwards. It is another when a witness has to spend considerable effort trying to describe both to themselves and others something they have never seen or experienced before. It is then not confabulation on the witnesses part, just their mind coping - both mental and emotional processing. I have observed this a number of times. Many here after years are still wondering what hit them. The UFO symposiums are filled with elaborate descriptions of so many varying 'alien species' - like Heinz 57 products - what maybe in reality just where along the witness coping process the investigator poses a question. Both the investigator and the witnesses conscious attention is never continuious. Magicians have known this and use this actively. It is best to attempt to gather as much of everything and assign what is noted in the proper proportion later. I think the main difference also between most here and other websites is the word 'selflessness' too. It is the 'knower's observations and experiences, subjective as humans we are, that must also be our first line in relating whatever ultimately the phenomenon turns out to be. Its late... Steve
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Post by skywalker on Feb 28, 2012 9:59:36 GMT -6
I agree with all that completely. Very well stated, Steve.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 28, 2012 10:40:13 GMT -6
That whole MUFON/Bigelow fiasco is a mess that still hasn't fully been cleaned up. They will probably still be dealing with the repercussions from it for years down the road. It kind of surprises me that you were able to get any of the info from your investigation. Many of the cases that Bigelow was involved in disappeared to never be seen again. I would love to see some of the sketches you and your brother are doing.
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Post by Steve on Feb 28, 2012 20:22:14 GMT -6
That whole MUFON/Bigelow fiasco is a mess that still hasn't fully been cleaned up. They will probably still be dealing with the repercussions from it for years down the road. It kind of surprises me that you were able to get any of the info from your investigation. Many of the cases that Bigelow was involved in disappeared to never be seen again. I would love to see some of the sketches you and your brother are doing. Drawing sketches about this is therapeutic. I have encouraged some here to do this, but some may have spooked themselves out dwelling on the mental images instead of drawing quickly getting it down on paper the first few times. At that point the process shuts down and they are reluctant to do further. So please get past that Tom and Matt. I know you can. Pictures are worth a thousand words, and therapeutically will release a thousand words too. Part of coping is to mentally visualize yourself in the role as an observer, instead of a participant. Bigelow was sold initially to the first Mufon star team investigators (of which I was one) the case information would be shared. Later Richard Lang poured a bucket of reality on us that basically Mufon was being paid to provide Bigelow BAASS with information gathered in the Star team investigations funded by Bigelow. The difference now in Mufon's tune according to R. Lang had changed then - the information was not necessarily to be shared back to Mufon. Lang's explanation was probably the more honest one. The Mufon leadership initially sold the Bigelow thing that way to it's new star team investigators to illicit their cooperation, which was rather disingenuous in hindsight. I suspect Mufon has a incomplete Reed case file, minus any physical trace evidence findings. Suspect another case file (a complete case file) may exist somewhere with Bigelows group which none of us including Mufon has access to I suspect. In that whole Bigelow/Mufon affair, I am of the opinion Bigelow interests and his end of the deal was honest, fair and clear. The Mufon Board of Directors (if not all of them, then certainly the majority of them) were dazzled suddenly with dollar signs in their eyes. There were reports Mufon's accounting system was confusing (the source for of a number of allegations between BOD members) and ineptness. A penny annie inexperienced volunteer organization suddenly with a large unexpected influx f 'capital'. Blame was squarely on the Mufon BOD IMO. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 22:21:46 GMT -6
"Part of coping is to mentally visualize yourself in the role as an observer, instead of a participant." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=abductions&thread=2044&page=5#24280#ixzz1njtq2CNjThis really does work. In my recent admission on this thread about the dreams of having twins, and realizing the real-life scenario of laying on a steel/metal exam table with dr. staff around, my visualization instantly went to the actual scene of the dream. Just as quickly (with practice I've done) the scene "changed", with ME standing next to the bed, and another me laying on the bed. I couldn't really see the expression on the face of the "me" laying down, just kind of a profile (a little smudged in appearance, too); but knew that I had switched views that quickly, and it still was "me" on the bed. The "practice" was like, shooting a basketball at a hoop or pitching. If you seriously want the ball to go where you are looking, you also practice looking away from the goal, but knowing (in your mind's eye) exactly where the basketball hoop/goal is. You always know exactly where the goal is, so you can be looking at the time clock ticking away the last seconds of the game, and still make a shot from half-court. So you learn the ball follows your intent. After that, you realize how easy it is to decide the ball is going through the hoop just by looking where (intent) you want it to go. It really is that simple . It just doesn't work so well for all the other visualization stuff out there. Just remember you can use intent or will on your own body, and something that you move from your body to somewhere else, like a ball. You can't move a job, money, or other people from your own body theoretically. I hope this makes sense. Bottom line, as hard as observing can be, you can even move your perspective to above the "participant", or beside, or at the feet, etc. This "control", IMHO, is what makes you feel "in charge" of the scene. Supposedly, if we weren't just doing a check, or a discovery, BECAUSE we are doing the visualization, and with controlling your position your mind GETS THAT, you can next change the scene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 0:06:48 GMT -6
Gosh Thomas... that's really very scary... wow...
Doesn't look at all like the ones I saw though...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 0:32:29 GMT -6
Did they ever stand in an upright position similar to us ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 8:21:52 GMT -6
(In my post above, I don't want any one to think I have been hypnotized. Because of the many "odd dreams" I have had, I have been trying for some time to teach myself to lucid dream. It seems that I have been able to "disassociate" myself, thus far. ) ______________________________________________________ Thanks Tom. I'm trying to figure out from the 1970's drawing, with relation to the notes on the picture, their (the beings) approx. size. I hope that you can (or want to) answer some questions about how they moved, made noises, etc. It may seem irrelevant. . . and that's Ok. I'm so glad you are sharing with us.
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Post by lois on Mar 2, 2012 12:00:59 GMT -6
Tom.. This type of alien is one I cannot cast my eyes on. It makes me sick, always has. Others have witness this being. I have never seen a drawing of.. one in a squat position. I have been scared to death of praying mantis and the eyes of a grasshopper since four years old.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 15:53:21 GMT -6
5 - 6 feet tall, cold, would raise and lower.. makes me a little sick sometimes to look at it. Thanks again for sharing Tom ! It is difficult to look at .
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Post by bethabara9 on Mar 2, 2012 19:40:04 GMT -6
New member, wanted to say hello...still learning the controls Followed Tom over from another forum. It will take me a bit to figure how the forum works. I have read a bit and say, this does look like a nice forum. I have read quite a few posts and am impressed. Once I settle in, I will try to share some on this thread. B'
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 20:50:49 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum Bethabara9.
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2012 20:58:11 GMT -6
Welcome B, I have been corresponding with Tom. Steve
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