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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 2:38:17 GMT -6
We are left clutching at smoke often. My friend and I were out riding our horses..never knew what hit us..I floated in and out of consciousness..mostly very afraid for her. She wasn't a very strong individual. Of that day, some strange incidents with the FBI , burn mark on my neck and lost time. Nothing about them for years.
There were left overs I discovered. It's very hard now to keep me anesthetized. When I had heart surgery the nurses were alarmed because I came out of it hours early and beating on my bed to get rid of the breathing tube. I am NOT good at all with that kind of restraint now.
There have been times when I wondered if we were creating them in the image of our predators. Spiders, grasshoppers, rats, snakes, preying mantis, shark and I'm probably missing a couple . Is it just coincidence that there is a brain jump of identification with those creepy crawly things?
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Post by poseygilbert on Feb 25, 2014 4:14:00 GMT -6
We are left clutching at smoke often. My friend and I were out riding our horses..never knew what hit us..I floated in and out of consciousness..mostly very afraid for her. She wasn't a very strong individual. Of that day, some strange incidents with the FBI , burn mark on my neck and lost time. Nothing about them for years. There were left overs I discovered. It's very hard now to keep me anesthetized. When I had heart surgery the nurses were alarmed because I came out of it hours early and beating on my bed to get rid of the breathing tube. I am NOT good at all with that kind of restraint now. There have been times when I wondered if we were creating them in the image of our predators. Spiders, grasshoppers, rats, snakes, preying mantis, shark and I'm probably missing a couple . Is it just coincidence that there is a brain jump of identification with those creepy crawly things? OMG! I just thought it was only me jokelly, I just thought it was only me: Over the years I have under went a series of operations all of which I awoke from finding my body in full combat mode with the operation staff. This last time I awoke finding my body mid battle, I mean fully consciously fighting with, raging at the top of my lungs, cussing, threatening them telling them, "To get the f*ck away from me or I will kill you all!" yet totally without me at the controls. I believe this was that part of me, that when over my childhood years of frightening Alien and Exo Encounters caused my spirit to shatter into three separate(mes) the bigger piece became the protecter of the other shards I come to know it as POSEY, but Ralph and friends came to call, "The Dragon Bplgeus." This is what I meant by simple nightmares cannot do this to you.
They cannot shatter or shred your psyche.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2014 10:17:31 GMT -6
Yes...I've become very combative on 3 occasions now all with anesthetics...first time my face was bruised and swollen when I woke up and the nurses avoided me LOL. Sadly that makes me realize something else...my middle child (son) was bitten by a rattlesnake on his index finger...at the hospital they gave him Demerol and he went nuts..had to handcuff him to the bed and he kept hollering..you say your my friend but you're NOT...finally they put him into a coma and told me they would wake him sometime the next day. In hours he was out of the coma himself and clear headed. Guess I wasn't the only family member..that's depressing. All of my kids are some psychic but he's the most so. Well you brought that out of the closet Posey.
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Post by paulette on Feb 25, 2014 11:36:18 GMT -6
I suffer more than any dentist I've gone to understands. I can't stand someone bending over me, with a bright light behind them and I can't focus on them. I sometimes dissociate - I once "came to" with a dentist yelling at me and lightly slapping my cheek. I had clamped down on the assistant's gloved hand and she couldn't withdraw it. They made me (and I felt on my own) very very ashamed. But truly it was not a conscious choice! I also do not react strongly to pain - I feel it, but cannot seem to communicate how intense it is (And I appear OK). Thus I was sent walking away on a broken fibula and also a second time when I broke the second one. They wanted to send me away but I told them LAST TIME you did that it was broken. So they relunctantly X-rayed it. And then all came and stood around me saying (in awe) "It's REALLY BROKEN." I said, "Yes, I'm going into shock - can I have a cup of that coffee that I can see but not reach?" They dismissed me without a cast (I didn't want them to cast it - they were the staff of a small incompetant hospital) but no splint, no CRUTCH. It was spiral fractured from ankle to knee (I saw the Xrays because I brought them to my doctor). I have never receieved adequate pain control because I have a calm demeanor when in pain. (I go to my quiet inside place). I know that children learn to dissociate well - if they need to. I believe I learned that lesson early. It's tangled up with other stuff though. Dissociation is not an adequate defense (the defense of the fawn)if a predator spots you. There were predators. I don't know who or what they were. I was locked into a "youth bed" - like a big crib by my father putting a wooden top on the bars so I couldn't get out because I "wandered" at night. I also wandered later (about age 8)- he caught me going quietly out the door to visit "my pony" outside in the small hours of the night. I didn't (of course) have a pony. These are old stories which gradually came together thanks to my opportunity to talk and write about them on the various boards. I believe this too: "I don't love them, hate them, or worship them, and I know I am not crazy. Thus because of my first person encounters I know that, there are and for a long time has been, Visitors from other Worlds and Realms coming to our world. Yes I do think our government may have captured downed flying saucers and their pilots in light of the incredible jumps that have been made in our technology. My sighting of Flying Saucers, UFOs, and my encounters with Entities over the years have shone me that they are here, so I have no doubt in my mind that our government could be in contact with these beings, or that secret organizations exist." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4498/ongoing-delema-true-monsters#ixzz2uM6CS26I
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Post by poseygilbert on Feb 25, 2014 21:16:08 GMT -6
he kept hollering..you say your my friend but you're NOT jokelly: You shared so I will share. POSEY or The Dragon, only comes out when I am restrained, intimidated or feel threatened. When he does I am suddenly thrown into " A place of darkness" which I also have come to call " The back seat." Our father at his core was a good and loving man and a great provider, but when he drank he sometimes became mean, vindictive and belligerent. Ralph and I being the darker ones in our family had taken his and his fathers complexions and so we also were the ones that often became the focus and victims of his drunken ire.This was once called "Color Struck"
It is recognized in Black Psychology as: "The House Nigger Field Nigger Syndrome."
If we had a TV it probably would not have happened. One night Pop deliberately provoked a fight between Chuck and I. He had seen me backing off from a play fight with Ricky, one of Ralph's friends. Seems I always suspected there was something dangerous inside of me so I kept it under control by avoidance of aggressive sports and roughhousing. Till this day the feel of making a fist is alien to me. As was done by many other "Unfortunets" before and after then Pop mistook my calm and passive demeanor as cowardice. "You know everybody says that of all my kids you are the one I need to watch." he growled at me, "They say. You best be careful how you handle that one cause one day he will kill you. That quiet one, oh you better not turn your back on that quiet one. Like I should fear a little pissant punk like you." He called me a sissy and a f*ggot and said that Chuck was his champion. He then turned to Chuck and said,"Kick his a*s Chuck!" Chuck balked at the command, and looked wide eyed and disbelievingly at him. Chuck had never raised a hand against me or any of his siblings. Clearly he did not want to do this, but Pop was drunk, and you don't want to anger Drunk Pop. "I told you to kick his a*s!" standing up and walking behind Chuck Pop pushed him and hissed,"Do it or I'll beat yours!" Chuck stepped forward and began to punch me in the middle of my chest he really wasn't hurting me because actually he was pulling his punches, so it was more like he was just pushing me a bit off balance with each blow. As I had done with Ricky earlier I calmly said, "Stop, stop it Chuck." At Pop's urging, Chuck hit / pushed me again and I calmly said, "Stop, stop it Chuck." At Pop's urging, Chuck hit / pushed me again and I calmly said, "Stop, stop it Chuck." At Pop's urging, Chuck hit / pushed me again and this third time before everything flashed to blackness I heard myself scream, "Chuck,stop it !!!"I felt my right hand (I am a southpaw) reach out and felt my thumb, index and middle finger clamp on Chuck's right wrist. When I flashed back in silent slow motion I saw Chuck flying sideways through the air crashing into Pop, who too then went airborne and and the both of them empactted with and flattened Janet's crib into the wall. The sound returned as they both crumpled with the smashed baby bed to the floor. In an instant almost as if she just appeared, Mother was at the living room door, her eyes sweeping the room until she saw Janet safely playing in Ralph's arms. Pop basically shoved Chuck off of him and rose to his feet cussing at and starting for me. "James!" Mother's voice snapped like a whip in the air and Pop froze. "Don't you touch him," she warned,"You started this, I heard you do it!" She walked over and lifted the still cooing and giggling Janet from Ralph's arms. "Janet would be dead now if she was in that bed, and it would have been you that caused it!" She then sent us to bed The next day Janet had a new bed and weeee, we had a TV. As I said our father at his core was a good and loving man and a great provider.
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Post by poseygilbert on Feb 26, 2014 0:13:21 GMT -6
I suffer more than any dentist I've gone to understands. I can't stand someone bending over me, with a bright light behind them and I can't focus on them. paulette: You sound a lot like me at the dentist. In my case since I was a kid I go so calm and still that they were constantly calling me too see that I was not comatose. This was and is true for me in other medical situations. I have been told that I am too calm, and too relaxed like when being given needles, getting stitches, giving blood. I am also prone to wake up during operations. As long as my arms are not in restraints no problem. It's as if I, on some level, have been programed to submit to medical procedures. B-|I can't imagine why that is, can you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 0:26:22 GMT -6
You are so entirely candid Posey...it's disarming and just a bit humbling. My father was very much like yours..mentally abusive..when he taught me to ride if I fell and didn't cry I was praised but if I cried I got 'a reason to cry' I was 6. Love/hate I adored him and despised him and I was a very solitary child..no close siblings. I have this very deep inner rage..that's only come out about 3 times in my life..when I don't even feel like the person is me. I've backed down grown men...but it takes a horrible toll on me..I shake for a long time afterward. Adrenalin overload I guess. So it seems there are even more similarities . It's funny though...I'm not afraid of them...I haven't been in years. I am still very angry.
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Post by poseygilbert on Feb 26, 2014 2:52:13 GMT -6
You are so entirely candid Posey...it's disarming and just a bit humbling. My father was very much like yours..mentally abusive..when he taught me to ride if I fell and didn't cry I was praised but if I cried I got 'a reason to cry' I was 6. Love/hate I adored him and despised him and I was a very solitary child..no close siblings. I have this very deep inner rage..that's only come out about 3 times in my life..when I don't even feel like the person is me. I've backed down grown men...but it takes a horrible toll on me..I shake for a long time afterward. Adrenalin overload I guess. So it seems there are even more similarities . It's funny though...I'm not afraid of them...I haven't been in years. I am still very angry. jokelly:
It all was and is for you, and yours to use or lose as you see fit. All of it's just a gift for you anyway depending on how you use it. Learn from it, then it was a lesson, sharpen your insight with it, Then it was a tool, toss it away then it was waisted. It's up to you.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 28, 2014 22:29:11 GMT -6
I think this is so far the best of all of your articles that I have read yet. Of course I still haven't read them all but I'm getting there little by little. Lots of true words spoken in it. I would have liked to comment on a few of them but I don't have the time right now. Perhaps later.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 5, 2014 2:45:47 GMT -6
I think this is so far the best of all of your articles that I have read yet. Of course I still haven't read them all but I'm getting there little by little. Lots of true words spoken in it. I would have liked to comment on a few of them but I don't have the time right now. Perhaps later. Cool
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 12:38:00 GMT -6
I don't agree with every article on UFO's and 'Aliens' that I read. I know they exist but I also know they can and do confound reasoning as a method of preserving their anonymity. Ergo making a lot of people sound like total idiots to the point that anything to do with UFO's is seen as a joke. I usually always believe there is some truth to most reports I don't believe we have leagues of space brothers...or federations of races wanting us to join. I think we're very low on their collective totem poles. I believe strange and unusual creatures are drop in's from other dimensions..either by choice or because someone fell through a hole betwixt and between...as we've lost people in similar fashion. Still rumors get started in just that way. What I encountered...was not nice...did NOT like me...and didn't have a whole lot of respect for any potential I might have. It didn't kill me..but it sure didn't care a fig for my feelings PERIOD. I don't want to encounter it again and it knows that. So..I'm also someone who likes to see both sides. It doesn't think the way I do...I don't think the way it does. Can't. Anyone who thinks we think alike...is letting themselves in for disappointment. WE..as humans...don't even think alike..and we're from the same planet I think we can't accept everything at face value. If it sounds absolutely bizarre it's probably something planted to make humans look like idiots to each other. Sex with aliens (my biggest ick) because as humans we boil almost everything down to sex or love...do you suppose other races have this overactive libido? Aliens who come to heal and nurture...hmmm..how many diseases do we have now? Aliens who come to fix the planet....sigh...just look around..does it look fixed? And these tales have been going on for how long? Decades...centuries... I believe there is more to space and time and the universe than we can possibly conceive of. I believe in entities so amazing and wonderful that they are angels..and entities so nasty and mean that they're labeled demonic...I believe that because there IS a balance in nature of all things. In humanity too. How can left brained folk possibly take the same IQ test as right brained folk? Most of us would look like idiots next to a rocket scientist..but he wouldn't have much common sense either. Balance. I also believe (not by chance) that each of us will BE...where we need to BE exactly when we need to be THERE. Synchronicity exists..and I also believe we are hugely lazy or we'd find the way to expand our minds and know all of the answers..because they are there for the taking. We whine...we cry and we want it given to us...where in the devil did we learn that? We look down on each other..for economics for color for intelligence and sometimes just because we're bigger than the other guy who dresses funny. And we seldom even bother to control temper...to work on our inner selves. We just wonder why the other guy has it better...and don't try to help the one who has it worse. And yet...we ARE a prize to someone..we ARE loved..I can feel it. Someone knows we are worth something even when we are not. There IS a Great Spirit that cares about every leaf on every planet everywhere. That...is what I believe...today
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 5, 2014 20:07:34 GMT -6
I don't agree with every article on UFO's and 'Aliens' that I read. I know they exist but I also know they can and do confound reasoning as a method of preserving their anonymity. Ergo making a lot of people sound like total idiots to the point that anything to do with UFO's is seen as a joke. I think that those are The Tricksters (The Nonts or Critters) that are at the root of thIS, and leave us not forget our tax dollars at work. Good old Uncle Son Of Sam is never to be trusted when it comes to us sitting in his lap, he always did, does, and will molest us. I usually always believe there is some truth to most reports I don't believe we have leagues of space brothers...or federations of races wanting us to join. I think we're very low on their collective totem poles.
It's just wishful thinking on the behalf of Cuckoos, Newage Book Writers, Wanabees and Believers.
OMG! What Crapolla!!
Just ask them all to assume the twelve o'clock position watch their forehead and see what happens
I believe strange and unusual creatures are drop in's from other dimensions..either by choice or because someone fell through a hole betwixt and between...as we've lost people in similar fashion. Still rumors get started in just that way. What I encountered...was not nice...did NOT like me...and didn't have a whole lot of respect for any potential I might have. It didn't kill me..but it sure didn't care a fig for my feelings PERIOD. I don't want to encounter it again and it knows that. So..I'm also someone who likes to see both sides. It doesn't think the way I do...I don't think the way it does. Can't. Anyone who thinks we think alike...is letting themselves in for disappointment. WE..as humans...don't even think alike..and we're from the same planet
;)BINGO!
I think we can't accept everything at face value. If it sounds absolutely bizarre it's probably something planted to make humans look like idiots to each other. Sex with aliens (my biggest ick) because as humans we boil almost everything down to sex or love...do you suppose other races have this overactive libido? Aliens who come to heal and nurture...hmmm..how many diseases do we have now? Aliens who come to fix the planet....sigh...just look around..does it look fixed? And these tales have been going on for how long? Decades...centuries...
Why should we expect them to come here to clean up our mess and do our dishes?
We are the ones that through the big Frat House party that messed up our home planet.
Why should we feel entitled to their servitude?
I believe there is more to space and time and the universe than we can possibly conceive of. I believe in entities so amazing and wonderful that they are angels..and entities so nasty and mean that they're labeled demonic...I believe that because there IS a balance in nature of all things. In humanity too. How can left brained folk possibly take the same IQ test as right brained folk? Most of us would look like idiots next to a rocket scientist..but he wouldn't have much common sense either. Balance.
Frankly I see no difference between these two factions or these A*SHOLES they serve.
None of then give a steaming heap about humans other than us being chess pieces on their game.
I also believe (not by chance) that each of us will BE...where we need to BE exactly when we need to be THERE. Synchronicity exists..and I also believe we are hugely lazy or we'd find the way to expand our minds and know all of the answers..because they are there for the taking. We whine...we cry and we want it given to us...where in the devil did we learn that? We look down on each other..for economics for color for intelligence and sometimes just because we're bigger than the other guy who dresses funny. And we seldom even bother to control temper...to work on our inner selves. We just wonder why the other guy has it better...and don't try to help the one who has it worse. And yet...we ARE a prize to someone..we ARE loved..I can feel it. Someone knows we are worth something even when we are not. There IS a Great Spirit that cares about every leaf on every planet everywhere. That...is what I believe...today That is because That Great Spirit IS every leaf on every planet everywhere. It is all just GOD looking at GOD in the mirror of Awareness and saying to Itself,
"I AM THAT I AM."
The Ocean
An Owean Parable: By: Posey Gilbert Once there was The Ocean and only The Ocean, and so The Ocean only knew of The Ocean for that was all there was for The Ocean to know, The Ocean. Then there came a time that land arose from the depths of the ocean, and The Ocean wondered what was that, which had arisen from The Ocean? So The Ocean named this new part to it The Land.
As The Ocean watched The Land, The Ocean wondered if just as there were things that lived within it and moved freely about The Ocean, could The Land too have that which lived and moved freely about and so it was The Ocean wanted to know The Land. The Ocean by Its flurtive attempts, knew the shore, but attempts to learn more about The Land were rebuffed. The Land was friendly enough, but it was just too slippery, and The Ocean would always end up sliding back into its own bed. When once out of frustration, The Ocean raised up and rushed onto The Land, to The Ocean's horror and regret, The Oceans great weight crushed and overturned the very wonders the ocean had come ashore to see.
So it was that The Ocean resigned that It would never come see or to know that other part of Itself that was The Land, for by Its presence alone It would destroy It. The Ocean then knew then, It could never again be whole, until It again knew Itself in total. The Ocean knew, that It had to come to know The Land. But The Ocean now knew, It could not en masse rush onto land again. So The Ocean decided on another way to do this was to particulate or evaporate Itself or Its awareness. This way Its awareness could form into clouds that would drift overland, and by forming into rain drops (individual souls or points of awareness) It could rain down and spread Its awareness, which would soak into every crack and crevice of The Land and learn the deep secrets hidden within The Land. It could drop atop the hills and mountains to become creeks (families and species), and then streams (lineages and evolutions),and then finally rivers (death the conduit that would eventually bring all the gathered knowledge of all the aspects of The Land, back to Itself The Ocean (GOD), where It would again unite with and become once more The Ocean (GOD). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
The first symbol of GOD was a dot in the center of a circle, which is a visual statement of awareness. I am (the point or dot) which stands alone at the center of all that it perceives. much like we see the Linareans perceive always places our position in the universe at Its center. Which is a visual statement of,"I am all that of that which I perceive." or "I AM THAT I AM." Thus any time we introduce ourselves we first say the name of GOD "I AM." The dot in the center of a circle, which is a visual statement of awareness, is also expressed in every atom,in every,in every planets or stars EMF,in every star system, and galaxy Itself. It all declares Itself to be GOD, for all is GOD (The Ocean), trying to reunite Itself from the shards we call creation. So know that even when you are staring frozen and terrified into those cold coal black eyes of those scary little bastards that seem to have no love, respect for your feelings, nor for your frightened kids during this ongoing Freakathon life of ours those too are the eyes of GOD. As it is for the gazelle staring frozen and terrified into those cold hungry eyes of the lion so too it is for us that stare into those empty unfeeling eyes also of GOD. Know that in the end GOD's going to eat you too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 0:10:38 GMT -6
Gads..I'd hate to be eaten by my best friend....
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 6, 2014 0:37:49 GMT -6
Gads..I'd hate to be eaten by my best friend.... "Schmutzigen Gedanken"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 10:28:35 GMT -6
Sigh...so you ARE just human LOL
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Post by auntym on Mar 6, 2014 13:26:46 GMT -6
posey, i am really curious ... have you actually read any of dolores cannon's books? or, did you just watch this tape ... and automatically think CRAPPOLA...?
since i have read all of her books and none of your posts, all i can say is she writes about aliens, ufos and other things we have talked about on this forum... and, i'm guessing you believe in these things too or you wouldn't be here...
in CONVOLUTED UNIVERSE dolores gets into the beginning of earth and how it all happened... i found it fascinating, because i never really thought about it... and i do recommend the books...
she talks about past lives and the role each of us played in the beginning of time... something to think about in my opinion...
so my other question to you is, what is the crappola part that you don't agree with... or maybe a better way of putting that question is what part of the video doesn't agree with your way of thinking...?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 22:31:49 GMT -6
If I may? What makes one person ring true for someone and have the opposite result for someone else? Who cares what path a person took...when all roads merge eventually. What makes church/religion vital to some and anathema to another? Because that person was meant to reach 'that' person...it struck a chord that made all of the sense in the world..to 'that' person. Dolores Cannon never has been a person who rang true for me..not meant to be my 'missionary' but if she moves some people in the right direction for THEM...that's all that matters. We do not all have to view the world in the same fashion. I found the one who makes profound sense to me...a very long time ago..and I call him God. Not everyone would see him the same way I do and I could care less..as long as he is seen. I'll always maintain that he IS to each as that person needs him to be I wouldn't call Cannon's belief's crapola any more than I would call Posey's that, I would say...we all have the right to opinion or belief and hopefully we are evolved enough to respect others for at least having one. One of the things we guard with the most passion...is that which we believe in.
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 0:02:45 GMT -6
posey, i am really curious ... have you actually read any of dolores cannon's books? or, did you just watch this tape ... and automatically think CRAPPOLA...? since i have read all of her books and none of your posts, all i can say is she writes about aliens, ufos and other things we have talked about on this forum... and, i'm guessing you believe in these things too or you wouldn't be here... in CONVOLUTED UNIVERSE dolores gets into the beginning of earth and how it all happened... i found it fascinating, because i never really thought about it... and i do recommend the books... she talks about past lives and the role each of us played in the beginning of time... something to think about in my opinion... so my other question to you is, what is the crappola part that you don't agree with... or maybe a better way of putting that question is what part of the video doesn't agree with your way of thinking...? Hi auntym: It is because she uses hypnosis which I know from experience can convolute "The Hypnotee's" Remembrances. When you force a Hypnotee to go deeper than they are ready for their is the risk of confabulation occurring as they try to fill in the spaces that you are trying to force them to fill in. Your own points of view too can influence their Remembrances. All of her stuff is coming from her beliefs, not her personal experience. She's just another *Dr. Steven Greer, in drag and a fat suit, both of them do a disservice to we who have to live and deal with this phenomena on a daily basis. (*The same Dr. Steven Greer with a gulible following of millions, whom could not tell an aborted human fetus from a dead baby alien.) sorry about this posey, i meant to hit quote and i hit edit instead... sorry...
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 0:14:10 GMT -6
Sigh...so you ARE just human LOL Guilty as charged!
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Post by auntym on Mar 7, 2014 0:38:50 GMT -6
posey, i am really curious ... have you actually read any of dolores cannon's books? or, did you just watch this tape ... and automatically think CRAPPOLA...? since i have read all of her books and none of your posts, all i can say is she writes about aliens, ufos and other things we have talked about on this forum... and, i'm guessing you believe in these things too or you wouldn't be here... in CONVOLUTED UNIVERSE dolores gets into the beginning of earth and how it all happened... i found it fascinating, because i never really thought about it... and i do recommend the books... she talks about past lives and the role each of us played in the beginning of time... something to think about in my opinion... so my other question to you is, what is the crappola part that you don't agree with... or maybe a better way of putting that question is what part of the video doesn't agree with your way of thinking...? Hi auntym: It is because she uses hypnosis which I know from experience can convolute "The Hypnotee's" Remembrances. When you force a Hypnotee to go deeper than they are ready for their is the risk of confabulation occurring as they try to fill in the spaces that you are trying to force them to fill in. Your own points of view too can influence their Remembrances. All of her stuff is coming from her beliefs, not her personal experience. She's just another *Dr. Steven Greer, in drag and a fat suit, both of them do a disservice to we who have to live and deal with this phenomena on a daily basis. (*The same Dr. Steven Greer with a gulible following of millions, whom could not tell an aborted human fetus from a dead baby alien.) Posey...WOW... in drag and a fat suit... you must have had a nasty experience with a hypnotist to come up with that description... LOL so, i take it you've never read her books...too bad... if you had you would know she doesn't do any of the things you claim she does...
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 3:30:34 GMT -6
If I may? What makes one person ring true for someone and have the opposite result for someone else? Who cares what path a person took...when all roads merge eventually. What makes church/religion vital to some and anathema to another? Because that person was meant to reach 'that' person...it struck a chord that made all of the sense in the world..to 'that' person. Dolores Cannon never has been a person who rang true for me..not meant to be my 'missionary' but if she moves some people in the right direction for THEM...that's all that matters. We do not all have to view the world in the same fashion. I found the one who makes profound sense to me...a very long time ago..and I call him God. Not everyone would see him the same way I do and I could care less..as long as he is seen. I'll always maintain that he IS to each as that person needs him to be I wouldn't call Cannon's belief's crapola any more than I would call Posey's that, I would say...we all have the right to opinion or belief and hopefully we are evolved enough to respect others for at least having one. One of the things we guard with the most passion...is that which we believe in. Well said jokelly: Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!
However: Belief seeks validation and Experience ends Belief.
I am not a believer, in UFOs, Aliens, Exo-dimensionals, Ghost, Cryptids, or the Paranormal. I've long ago Experienced them all first hand and no longer have the luxury of Belief. Save your Belief for your gods I don't need it to know what I Know. So as far as Mrs.Dolores Cannon's books are concerned I never read toilet paper.
I talk about my personnel Experiences here and I let you know when I speak about my beliefs. She does not. I am an Experiencer while she is not, I've had face to face encounters with these Entities, while she has not. So who the hell is she to define the parameters of real Experiencers experiences, based solely on possible confabulations inspired or generated by her own faulty beliefs? I've dealt with these things for sixty two years and never have been, nor will ever be hypnotized to recall a *bleep* thing. As far as I am concerned may her ongoing money making "Crapolathon" continue to draw in all those pesky flies and maggots away from the paths of those that seek real answers and not just things that sound nice but, in the end really mean nothing.
So go my little Lemmings, and follow that sirens song into the waiting arms of the shark filled sea. Oh By The Way Anyone want to buy a Pleiadian Star Biscuit? If you like Cannon's spew you will love these. They're the real sh*t
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 10:00:35 GMT -6
She does advocate hypnosis Auntie..that's one of her 'tools' for abductions. And the verdicts on hypnosis are varied because we just don't know enough about the brain. I'm still of the opinion that no one in this field is an expert or stands a chance of being one unless they've been abducted themselves. A therapist believes they can relate but how is it possible when limited to standard perceptions..trying to help someone who has a broader field of experience than the therapist does? I don't think 'normal' rules of therapy could apply. How could the experiencers brain not be wired differently? In other words...I'd rather have a therapy session with a 'peer' than someone who hasn't had that particular set of experiences. ..and I would not be hypnotized either. I am positive that our brain does fil in the blanks.
That being said.........we are ALL entitled to our opinions...right?
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Post by auntym on Mar 7, 2014 11:51:45 GMT -6
She does advocate hypnosis Auntie..that's one of her 'tools' for abductions. And the verdicts on hypnosis are varied because we just don't know enough about the brain. I'm still of the opinion that no one in this field is an expert or stands a chance of being one unless they've been abducted themselves. A therapist believes they can relate but how is it possible when limited to standard perceptions..trying to help someone who has a broader field of experience than the therapist does? I don't think 'normal' rules of therapy could apply. How could the experiencers brain not be wired differently? In other words...I'd rather have a therapy session with a 'peer' than someone who hasn't had that particular set of experiences. ..and I would not be hypnotized either. I am positive that our brain does fil in the blanks. That being said.........we are ALL entitled to our opinions...right? she has over 50 yrs experience with hypnosis... i would say she is as close to expert as one can get... i happen to think hypnosis is a great tool when used by someone who knows what they're doing... i don't have a problem with hypnosis... and yes we are all entitled to our opinions...
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Post by auntym on Mar 7, 2014 11:55:07 GMT -6
Oh By The Way Anyone want to buy a Pleiadian Star Biscuit? If you like Cannon's spew you will love these. They're the real sh*t talk about crappola... WOW... i must have hit the wrong cord with you... LOL
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 14:10:00 GMT -6
She does advocate hypnosis Auntie..that's one of her 'tools' for abductions. And the verdicts on hypnosis are varied because we just don't know enough about the brain. I'm still of the opinion that no one in this field is an expert or stands a chance of being one unless they've been abducted themselves. A therapist believes they can relate but how is it possible when limited to standard perceptions..trying to help someone who has a broader field of experience than the therapist does? I don't think 'normal' rules of therapy could apply. How could the experiencers brain not be wired differently? In other words...I'd rather have a therapy session with a 'peer' than someone who hasn't had that particular set of experiences. ..and I would not be hypnotized either. I am positive that our brain does fil in the blanks. That being said.........we are ALL entitled to our opinions...right?
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 14:16:16 GMT -6
Oh By The Way Anyone want to buy a Pleiadian Star Biscuit? If you like Cannon's spew you will love these. They're the real sh*t talk about crappola... WOW... i must have hit the wrong cord with you... LOL
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Post by poseygilbert on Mar 7, 2014 15:43:36 GMT -6
she has over 50 yrs experience with hypnosis... i would say she is as close to expert as one can get... i happen to think hypnosis is a great tool when used by someone who knows what they're doing... i don't have a problem with hypnosis... and yes we are all entitled to our opinions... Big deal she has over 50 years experience with Gypnosis (oops type o ) Hypnosis. Well excuse me, I have 62 years of face to face, eye to eye Experience with ALIENS!!! I did not spend those years playing "Telephone" with Aliens via an entranced "Hypnotees." The reason I use the Fire Spirit as a surrogate Alien in this is because both Fire and Alien Encounters leave physical, mental scars and deep seated trauma. What Mrs. Cannon is doing is tantamount to her hypnotizing a "Burn Victim" and then claiming to have talked to the Fire Spirit which told her some *bullcrap* that blames the victim for causing their own trauma because they misinterpreted the Fire Spirit's message of love for humanity. "It only meant to embrace you within the warmth of it's eternal love for humanity, you stupid human you, if you weren't so negative you would have seen that, oh and stop eating meat."
"Oh Pleeeeaaasssseeee!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2014 15:45:08 GMT -6
I'm sure she IS an experienced hypnotist...I object to hypnosis on abductees...period. I don't feel it's a useful tool for that. I'm not saying that she doesn't have experience in her field..but is she someone who has herself experienced an abduction? That's what I meant by experienced....in that field. You're defending someone you like and who has merit to you and I'm only saying that others have the right..not..to enjoy her works as you do. And...for me...that's where I bow out of the subject.
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Post by auntym on Mar 7, 2014 15:55:10 GMT -6
she has over 50 yrs experience with hypnosis... i would say she is as close to expert as one can get... i happen to think hypnosis is a great tool when used by someone who knows what they're doing... i don't have a problem with hypnosis... and yes we are all entitled to our opinions... Big deal she has over 50 years experience with Gypnosis (oops type o ) Hypnosis. Well excuse me, I have 62 years of face to face, eye to eye Experience with ALIENS!!! I did not spend those years playing "Telephone" with Aliens via an entranced "Hypnotees." The reason I use the Fire Spirit as a surrogate Alien in this is because both Fire and Alien Encounters leave physical, mental scars and deep seated trauma. What Mrs. Cannon is doing is tantamount to her hypnotizing a "Burn Victim" and then claiming to have talked to the Fire Spirit which told her some *bullcrap* that blames the victim for causing their own trauma because they misinterpreted the Fire Spirit's message of love for humanity. "It only meant to embrace you within the warmth of it's eternal love for humanity, you stupid human you, if you weren't so negative you would have seen that, oh and stop eating meat."
"Oh Pleeeeaaasssseeee!" posey you have crossed a line, consider this your 1st warning... one more and i will ban you for 5 days
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