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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 22:33:40 GMT -6
I like your summation, sky. I also thought the darkened skin looked like something else; couldn't quite remember. Oh yeah. Freezing conditions. I'm still a little bothered by some of the pictures, though. Somehow reminds me of an actor portrayal or a reenactment, while some of the pictures could be legit. Of course this doesn't make the story false. Why would someone make up a story like this anyway??
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Post by auntym on Mar 18, 2014 11:24:28 GMT -6
ufodigest.com/article/dyatlov-0317March 18, 2014 THE DYATLOV UFO INCIDENT - A CASE OF PREDATORY UFO MASS MURDER IN RUSSIA'S URAL MOUNTAINS - 1959A Case of Predatory UFO Mass Murder In Russia's Ural Mountains - 1959 By Robert D. Morningstar " In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think 'how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.' And yet, I ask is not an alien force ALREADY among us?” " President Ronald Reagan Speech to the United Nations General Assembly
42nd General Assembly
September 21, 1987The Victims The 9 Victims of a UFO Mass Murder Igor Dyatlov (center) and the other Members of his Ural Mountain Expedition This article is based on the video book documentary made by D. Romahlko in tribute to Dyatlov Ural Mountain Expedition - February 2nd 1959 This article presents the story of the Dyatlov Ural Mountain Expedition of 1959 during which all 9 members of the expedition died under the most mysterious of circumstances, with of the 9 victims suffering harrowing injuries that could not be explained satisfactorily or attributable to natural causes. Based on the video linked below ("The Dyatlov Inceidend - Mountain of the Dead", compiled by D. Romahlko), this article will detail the very compelling story of the tragic loss of the Dyatlov Expedition to Kholat Syaskhl, a region called "The Mountain of the Dead". Nine adult hikers were lost and all later found dead under extremely mysterious circumstances, including independent UFO eyewitnesses who saw lights maneuvering in the area around the time the hikers were lost. This documentary is very unusual, being a tribute to the memory of the Dyatlov Ural Mountain expedition and, most importantly, based on official government documents, investigation findings, notes and photos from Yuri Gagarin's UFO files and his collection of photos, investigative reports, with diary notes and the last picture taken by a member of the party, along with information from the KGB's "Alien Races Book." Editor's note: The "Alien Races Book" was one of 2 briefing books alluded to several years ago by then President Dimitri Medvedev in an off-the-cuff remark to a post-press conference question from a reporter that was caught on camera. CONTINUE READING: ufodigest.com/article/dyatlov-0317
The Dyatlov Pass Incident: SCARIER THAN FICTION!!Published on Feb 22, 2013 The Dyatlov Pass incident resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains on the night of February 2, 1959. It happened on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl. The mountain pass where the incident occurred has since been named Dyatlov Pass after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov. Investigators at the time determined that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot into heavy snow and a temperature of −30 °C (−22 °F). Although the corpses showed no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue and there was radiation present as the bodies were aged very quickly. Personally, this is an extremely interesting case and requires further investigation. I found a documentary developed by the local Russian Television Agency of Ural that is over 2 hours in length and can be subtitled using the browser. This goes into greater detail then the history channel piece and expands the mystery on the subject. Well worth the watch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 7:17:29 GMT -6
I want to sincerely apologize for the insensitive comments I made about this case. I am sorry. With a bit of curiousity and research, this is my fav website on the subject: www.aquiziam.com/dyatlov_pass_answers.html_______________________________________________________ This is where I recently learned about "infrasound". The fact that these young, experienced hikers left their tent in such haste, was what always stuck with me.
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Post by skywalker on Aug 14, 2014 16:45:48 GMT -6
What insensitive comments are you talking about? Did I miss something?
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Post by lois on Aug 14, 2014 22:16:56 GMT -6
We discussed this on the old Mufon forum. Don't you remember sky?
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Post by skywalker on Aug 14, 2014 22:24:12 GMT -6
I remember the case but I don't remember any insensitive comments.
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Post by watusimba on Jan 19, 2016 2:37:44 GMT -6
Ok, here's my take on this mystery. The first thing we have to ask ourselves is ... how truthful were the Russians when they explained what happened? Mainly because we know that one researcher was told to come up with the correct "facts." So, from a Russian point of view, and this is cold war Russia we are talking about, let's consider that the U.S. and Russia were trying to one-up the other when it came to weapons systems. And, of course, back then, radiation and secret bases were all the rage. But, if you are willing to dig a little deeper, you'll find out that, depending on who submitted a finding, there either was or was not, any significant radiation. Radioactive clothing could have been planted, and/or it could have been made up to fit the theory that Russia wanted to promote. So, we do not honestly know if there was radiation or not, and we never will. Now then, let's talk footprints. How many footprints were really there? Now, if you look at the only picture published of the campsite, with footprints readily seen, how many and what size are they? Also, the investigators said that many of the campers ran out in bare feet. Bare feet leave heel and toe prints, and that could be interesting too! And, if something is chasing you, the fastest way to catch up to you, in deep snow, is to run in your footprints. Afterall, you did all the hard work of trailblazing through the snow, and if you have ever walked in snow before, you know it is far easier and faster to step into someone else's tracks. Of course, when you step into someone else's tracks, you don't leave much of your own, and if 5 or 6 people all step into the same tracks, you obliterate the persons tracks before you, and 5 peoples tracks could look like 20. To sum this up right now, do we really know if there was any untoward radiation? And, do we really know how many and what kind of tracks were left? Here's what I think. Something scared the crap out of them, and whatever it was, came from higher up in the mountain. Why? No one dared stick their head out of the flap to check things out. Instead, they did something so unorthodox, they cut the other side of the tent open to take a look at their escape route, and make sure nothing was in their way. They probably all began to quickly get dressed, as fast as possible, and figured that getting into the forest was their only salvation. They could hide there, and when whatever it was busted through the tent, they slit it completely open and barreled down the hill, half dressed, some with shoes and some not. Safety in the forest was probably short lived. The first two guys died of hypothermia, as was evidenced by them being laid side by side and stripped of all of their usable clothing. Climbing the tree was an attempt to see if the intruder was gone, and quite possibly, "it" was. That's why three of them, one woman included, tried to make it back to camp and, perhaps, salvage clothing. But whatever it was, was still lurking about, so those three people pressed themselves as deep into the snow as possible. If you read the reports, the two men died fairly straight away because the snow beneath them was still snow. The woman, on the other hand, died after laying there for awhile. How do we know? There was ice beneath her, which meant that she stayed long enough in one place so that her own body temperature melted the top layer of snow. And also, none of them were harmed, except Dyatlov who had a broken fist -- as if he punched something really hard at some point -- so apparently they stayed hidden and died where they laid. Now, whatever was lurking drove the remaining 4 deeper into the forest. Those 4, including Ludmilla, the woman, went further away from the tent and found shelter at a rivers edge behind a snow drift in a ravine. This party of four felt so secure, at that point, that they actually made a fire to warm up with. If you thought you were still in harms way, you would never make a fire in the darkness. But they did, and this is where it really gets spooky. At some point, and no one really knows when, but at some point, this band of people were discovered by who-knows-what, and these were the ones, of the original group, that were most mutilated. Three died from blunt force trauma, not the cold, and two of them had serious skull fractures. Let's take a quick look at the offensive physical behavior of apes and chimpanzees. In several accounts of these animals attacking humans, the first thing they go for is the face. They rip your face apart and/or slam your head against a wall, a tree or the ground. This is how apes fight, and this is exactly what happened to 3 of the 4 surviving members. 2 of the last group had crushed ribs and caved in chests and the woman had her tongue ripped out. My theory is that, this was done by a Yeti type of creature. Why? It attacked like an ape and killed like an ape. The crushed in chests can be explained by an 800 pound creature kneeling on you while slamming your head into the ground. And if you were Ludmilla, screaming at the top of her lungs in absolute terror, the quickest way to silence her would be to throw her to the ground, kneel on her chest and rip the tongue out of her mouth. That may sound gruesome, but that's exactly what an apelike creature would fight like. Oh, and by the way. There is evidence of an apelike animal stalking them. Here is a link to a picture that one of the group took. It is a pic of a "creature" following the group through the forest. www.google.com/search?q=dyatlov+yeti+picture&gws_rd=sslAlso, the last pic on the camera, you know, that blur of light? I believe that was the creatures hand reaching through the door flap, with the little finger on the bottom making the brightest spot. If you look closely, you can just about see the other fingers and the knuckles on the hand. Imagine the thing coming through the door, you blind it with one quick camera shot and flash, and haul *bleep* through the side of the tent, giving you a little time to get away. The camera flash was the only weapon they had. And so it goes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2016 9:47:22 GMT -6
IDK.
Thanks for your input.
I get (a little) more mental relief by googling "dyatlov pass and lightning".
I'll always wonder what sound (?) got them out of that tent so quickly. I'm supposing that on making camp, they knew about how far away the trees were, what they had that they could use as weapons, and when the sun would come up.
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Post by lois on Jan 19, 2016 22:34:49 GMT -6
It always sounded like a Yeti to me. But I have never understood why the radiation was found.
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Post by watusimba on Jan 20, 2016 2:35:56 GMT -6
Here's a great read, Parts 1 and Parts 2, of the Dyatlov Pass incident. It goes into more detail about the damage done to faces, eyes gouged out, fractured skulls, and why anyone would want to exit the side of a tent without the proper clothing. It even has the autopsy reports, and the damage done to the bodies are very consistent with the kind of damage a chimp, ape or another type of hominid might do. Anyway, whatever happened in Dyatlov Pass, this gives you a bit more knowledge about what occurred. You can draw your own conclusions. ~~ thecloakedhedgehog.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/the-dyatlov-pass-incident-part-1/ ~~ And so it goes.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 22, 2016 19:32:56 GMT -6
I've seen the photo of the "humanoid" thing that was following them and it looks kind of like a person to me. You can almost see that the jacket is a different color than the pants. They have just a slightly different shade to them. That doesn't mean it wasn't a Yeti though. Anything is possible. Something scared the crap out of those people.
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Post by patsbox7 on Jan 25, 2016 3:37:30 GMT -6
That story has always bothered me. The missing tongue. The high radiation levels. The fact that some ran into the woods, to escape whatever was attacking them. It just doesn't add up. If it was a government test gone bad, why would a tongue be removed with surgical precision that is beyond anything mainstream, and very similar to cattle mutilation marks.
Honestly, I'm not going to even guess on this one. Too little facts to go on, and if there are any, they aren't public. If I were to take s stab at it, I would guess one of the nasty ET groups decided to target them for extreme testing or feeding or whatever. I have heard there are a few VERY dangerous ET species that you avoid at all costs. Should you run into one, literally ruin for your life. Obviously this is internet info to be taken with a grain of salt, but I don't deny the possibility.
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Post by patsbox7 on Jan 25, 2016 3:56:39 GMT -6
Example:
"IGUANOIDS
Approximately 4-5 ft. tall, with ’Iguana-like’ appearance yet ’hominoid’ configuration.
They have sometimes been seen wearing black, hooded ’monk’ robes or cloaks which conceal much of their saurian features, which include tails. These have been reported as being extremely dangerous and hateful towards humans and lesser-ranking Reptiloids such as Greys, and like all other branches of the ’serpent’ race they utilize black witchcraft, sorcery and other forms of mind control against their enemies.
They appear to be a dimension-hopping sorcerer or priest class among the reptiloid species. " Source- Random internet site.
Again, this is the internet. The same place that claims the president is a reptile. Going off the scientific method, 99% of all of this stuff doesn't hold up. However, I don't discount anything, including reptile presidents and iguana men eating campers until evidence is shown on the flip side.
Fact- Something major went down. Fact also is, it is closed to civilians.
Clear evidence that something happened, it wasn't good, and nobody except the government can return to gather evidence.
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Post by patsbox7 on Jan 25, 2016 4:09:42 GMT -6
I've seen the photo of the "humanoid" thing that was following them and it looks kind of like a person to me. You can almost see that the jacket is a different color than the pants. They have just a slightly different shade to them. That doesn't mean it wasn't a Yeti though. Anything is possible. Something scared the crap out of those people. Never seen or heard of the. Link it?
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Post by auntym on Mar 25, 2018 12:12:50 GMT -6
www.rt.com/news/420115-dyatlov-pass-tourist-disappears/ Another victim? Tourist disappears in Dyatlov Pass, where 9 hikers mysteriously died in 1959 1 Mar, 2018 FILE PHOTO: A group of tourists conducts an expedition to the Ural Mountains. © Nikolay Gyngazov / Global Look Press A tourist has disappeared without a trace at the Dyatlov Pass in Russia’s Ural Mountains. The area, which is shrouded in mystery, is notorious for the unexplained death of a group of hikers back in 1959. A man from the Russian city of Ekaterinburg, identified as Aleksandr Andreev, has been reported lost in the pass, after venturing on an individual journey to this remote region, Russian media cite local police sources as saying. According to the reports, the tourist has not checked in for about three weeks. The tourist was expected to return from his hiking trip on February 27, but never did. A group of local volunteers have launched a rescue mission in an attempt to find the missing man. So far, the group has only found a message from him dated February 17, in which he said that “everything was going well,” Moskovsky Komsomolets daily reports. Andreev also failed to register with the local search and rescue service before setting out for his trip, the media report, adding that the route of his trip is unknown. The search and rescue team became aware he was missing only after his relatives sought assistance. The tourist braved one of the most impassable regions of the Urals, which is still haunted by unresolved mysteries of its past. The pass was named after Igor Dyatlov, the leader of a hiking group that went missing there in 1959. All were eventually found dead. The group of graduate students from of the Ural Polytechnic Institute, who were also experienced hikers, planned to trek 350km on skis through the forest and northern Urals to Mount Otorten (which is translated from the local Mansi language as ‘don’t go there’). On February 12, 1959, the nine failed to report to the scheduled end-point at the village of Vizhay. Killed by an 'unknown compelling force'As a result of a rescue operation that was launched soon afterwards, the group’s tent was eventually found on the slope of Mount Kholat Syakhl (‘Mountain of the Dead’ in Mansi) on February 26. The investigators of the incident later determined that the tent had been cut with a sharp object from the inside. The trekkers also left all their belongings in the tent while apparently trying to urgently flee the campsite. The bodies of the five group members were subsequently found down the hill some 1.5km from their camp. Some were wearing only underwear and socks, while others were even barefoot. The bodies also showed signs of struggle, such as fractured skulls and broken ribs. One of the women was missing her tongue. The search for the rest of the group took more than two months, but they were also eventually found dead further in the woods on the mountainside. The incident remains one of the most chilling unsolved mysteries of the 20th century, as the Soviet criminal investigation in 1959 failed to establish the causes of the deaths. The final report stated only that the people had been killed by an “unknown compelling force.” The incident has sparked many theories over more than half a century. Some said the group died because of an avalanche, while others blamed secret military tests, an encounter with an unknown creature, paranormal activity or even a UFO. Meanwhile, the ominous place continues to lure the curious, as well as those willing to test their resolve against its austere environments. It also still occasionally reaps its grim toll. In January 2016, a group of tourist-hikers found the unidentified body of an approximately 50-year-old a man at the pass. He was later identified as a local “hermit,” Moskovsky Komsomolets reports. Investigators also established that he died from hypothermia. In September 2017, a member of another tourist group “died suddenly” while hiking in the area. The details of the incident were not revealed at the time. It was established later that the 58-year-old died from a cardiac arrest. www.rt.com/news/420115-dyatlov-pass-tourist-disappears/************************************************** Hiker Mysteriously Vanishes at Russia’s Infamous Dyatlov Pass mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/03/hiker-mysteriously-vanishes-at-russias-infamous-dyatlov-pass/
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