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Post by paulette on Apr 5, 2012 23:38:12 GMT -6
Another morning dream - after husband got up and went to work, but before 6:15...I was at a sale (like a second-hand store) and there was a piece of furniture (sometimes called a hutch) that had open shelves and various nick-nacks and vases and whatever on it. I was casually looking at the stuff (not terribly interested) and other people had sorted out what they wanted and were making piles to pay for. All of sudden I realized that it was a piece of furniture from my parents house (that survived the hurricane) and the glass wear was as well. Suddenly I wanted it terribly. I tried to gather some up by it was mostly sold by then and being taken away by strangers. I couldn't afford the large piece of furniture. Feeling was: great loss and sadness.
My parents had various ornamental things in their hutch and the hurricane swept most of it away. (a tornado spawned from the hurricane actually). They retreived the furniture and a few pieces and kept them in them small apartment where they moved (inland and close to my brother). They died rather suddenly and he put EVERYTHING in the second hand, sold it in flea markets, or tossed it. My brother had no family feeling about any of it and he did not ask me and I was too stunned by their dying to realize that I had to tell him that I wanted something of theirs. Some things were stored - but they were in Texas. He sent me a key and told me to pay the storage. I was broke with two babies in Canada. Eventually I guess someone sold the contents of the storage unit - I never went back.
Every once in a while I "find" my parents furniture in a storage area or store. I can never hang onto it - in the dream either. Interestingly (to me) I am somewhat of a collector/hoarder as is my husband. It isn't crazy - but I do have about 10 flower vases. Etc. Nothing is about UFOs or anything paranormal in this dream. But I'm surprised after 28 years that I'm still looking for lost things from my past.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 12:00:09 GMT -6
Wow Paulette, that's really interesting... When I was in college, the man I was dating took me to his house once after a "Jam Session" (he played bass guitar). I walked into his house and saw the old bookshelf dad had made for me when I was 10. I kept all of my star wars books and my barbies and stuff on that bookshelf. I knew it was the same one because a piece was broken off the end of it when an unnamed little girl tried to climb it like a ladder to put up a Backstreet Boys poster... It was in the exact same spot... and he was using it as a shoe rack in his entryway... It's interesting how these things turn up when we are least expecting it...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 13:03:00 GMT -6
It sounds to me like you are trying to reconnect with something from that past time Paulette that you haven't come to terms with... I do get a strong sense of something unresolved but you don't seem to get back to a point where you can. We have levels of endings and beginnings along our 'paths'. You can't begin new ventures with success if there are old issues that anchor us to the past. There are those who insist on holding onto things from their past..bad and good..and never do move onto newer and stronger levels. For what it's worth..yours is a path of travel forward..your mind is always on the prowl to understand and grasp and I see frustration in you when you're thwarted I think maybe you need to do a bit of back tracking (meditate on it) to see what is holding onto your big toe. I feel some little pocket of sadness? IMO
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Post by auntym on Apr 6, 2012 13:42:06 GMT -6
very interesting paulette... i had a similar incident happen to me;
many years ago a friend gave me a little rock stature she had made
(like you, she collected rocks of all shapes & sizes) but she was an artist and painted faces and bodies on the rocks and put them together to make adorable figurines...
needless to say i loved this little stature.... it was a daniel boone/ davy crocket type character complete with coonskin cap...
when my husband & i moved from tenn. back to florida ... it ended up missing and i was very upset about this...
flash ahead 20 years and my friend is in a goodwill thrift shop in florida and there sitting on a shelf collecting dust is my little daniel boone/ davy crocket figurine ... it had been stolen in tenn.
i was dumbstruck when she returned it to me and told me where she found it...
i read somewhere when something is lost or stolen and it truly belongs to you it will be returned to you...i don't know how true that is but i find these types of stories fascinating...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 13:46:34 GMT -6
Some great advice there, Jo . But I seem to also be "thwarted" when it comes to resolving little details of a past time. Even if we meditate, think we have an "aHa" moment, and try to move on, things just happen to come up in dreams. I'm thinking about the word "thwarted". It's been mentioned before, but if alien beings have some sort of access to our brains and altering memories of their presence, do they also develop their own little "chip" of us (our other memories) and use IT sometimes (for whatever reason) ?? I've had some very strange dreams lately that "play out" a little too well. By this I mean that they have a start and an ending and they fit perfectly into a predetermined time slot. I'm talking about times we wake up and realize we have maybe 45 minutes left of sleep, and we could actually get up, but decide to go back to sleep. I have a major dream, it ends, I wake up and it's within one minute of my alarm going off. This has happened even in a 15 minute time between the alarm going off, hitting snooze, and it goes off again. The dreams are bad. I can't remember them though . When I was young the dream had the potential to ruin my day. Now I just say (to myself) "you're trying to ruin my day and it's obvious". Why would I be trying to ruin my own day? Make myself sad? Etc., etc.. . .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 15:26:21 GMT -6
There's more than one way to see that JC..(IMO) when something is THAT persistent..it's a tap on the shoulder (or kick in the belly) of something that is being avoided that needs attention. You may (and probably do) have locked in your mind encounters that try to surface but are pushed down by your own mind. I know for a fact (myself as guinea pig) that they will try to get your attention in different ways and they usually get stronger...more abrasive. In your case, trying to face them yourself might not work but with a hypnotherapist like Steve's..you would probably find what is causing this ruinous dream. You aren't someone who backs down any more than Paulette is..I've seen you scratching and fighting to be understood and hating for anyone to misinterpret a remark. It's very important to you to understand and be understood Sometimes I think we hang complications on things that were never meant to be complicated. We want answers and sometimes I think the Universe is telling us to just accept..that the whys are not the issue..faith is. Your little story is a sweet one Auntie and actually it's full of hope and promise. If a thing is destined to be it will be in spite of any odds. I think we do draw things to us..we have that kind of power we just don't always know we use it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 22:27:16 GMT -6
Paulette,
I'm sorry about the sudden loss of your parents; whenever that was. I kind of remember you saying your brother was much older so you weren't close to him?
Still, very senseless on his part about their stuff. . .
I'm also guessing that you weren't able to go to your parents funeral.
That would be neat if you came across an item of theirs while awake.
With much regret I parted with a hutch of my grandmothers in the past year. I didn't have room for it. I didn't have to ask any cousins about it because we all got things when my grandparents died, but I would have liked to pass it on to family. Sigh.
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Post by paulette on Apr 6, 2012 23:09:34 GMT -6
Thanks everyone. Jokelly you are right - there is sadness attached to this dream. I have too much stuff (my parents didn't) and I think its because for the first 54 years of my life things were stripped away or had to be abandoned over and over again. My parents lost their home to a hurricane in about 1972. Their belongings were scattered over a 5 mile radius and stuff in the remaining house rained on while the insurance company stalled. I meanwhile was having to drop out of grad school and didn't want to tell them because I had no plan. They asked me to come help and I didn't. My brother did. He relocated them in a featureless apt. near him in San Antonio. I didn't drive yet and getting to their house terrified when I finally did. When I visited them they could be nice for about 15 minutes and then started in - my hair, my life, my plans. They never approved of anyone that I dated so I had given up on that. I stayed away mostly and then moved to Canada.
My brother (a half brother/Mom's son) resented how heavily they leaned on him but I wasn't aware of the depth of his anger until he threw everything away. They and I had re-connected and they came to Canada and met their grandchildren. I tried to connect with my brother but ...Wow....can't even talk about that. I have a weird family.
When I moved to Canada I liquidated just about everything except some books and some kitchen ware. When I moved out of the house that I had lived in during my marriage (17 years) I got rid of a lot of stuff then too. Then there was the flood in the basement where I lived. Books soaked up the water without me realizing the extent of the flood and molded. So...
I now have a houseful of stuff. It's other people's lost and discarded treasures - from the Goodwill, garage sales, etc. Lots of books. Tons of rocks and equipment - and I'm not doing anything with any of it right now. Feel like I'm treading water - everything is OK but it isn't really. I've felt that way for awhile - might be reverberations from the Web of Life. Might be more personal. Letting it unpack (what other option is there?).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 23:48:01 GMT -6
~hugz Paulette~ I'm sorry to read about all the losses you've suffered during your lifetime... your parents as well... wow... A friend of mine's roommate is also a pack rat... and my friend is too actually... both for different reasons I suppose. My friend's family was very poor- her real father is in a mental ward somewhere, a permanent facility and her mother is severely mentally ill as well... her step-father has a lot of health problems too... my friend is now essentially supporting her mother and step-father with her job at the local university. My friend's roommate on the other hand is a survivor of Hurricane Katrina... yea... she came all the way up to Alaska to "start over" again... after she and her family lost everything. Both my friend and her roommate have trouble throwing things out... and they share a very very small apartment together... and they also have tons and tons and TONS of stuff in storage units... Me- I have the opposite problem... I get tired of stuff (clothes, shampoo, makeup, body wash, lotion etc...) and I throw it all out and buy new stuff... if I can afford to... if I can't, I'm miserable until I can. This diversity of people is what makes the world an interesting place. Everyone is different and everyone has different "quirks" about them. It makes a lovely stew IMO...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 17:18:16 GMT -6
well... sometimes I find myself "resenting" the role and responsibility I've dropped into with my parents. And funny thing is, it's beginning to show its ugly face in material "stuff". So this whole topic (and the dream ) reverberates with me. When we moved in with my folks I got rid of a lot of stuff. We also combined simple kitchen items (wooden spoons, potato mashers) to have what we all needed. My thought was that these things are easily replaced by goodwill, etc. (and they are). Years ago, when someone broke a chandelier of my grandmothers I kept pieces of it and made dangling things for decorations and that has helped staved off feelings of sentiment. I honestly think I won't want any of my folks stuff because there is way too much. However, I'm finding myself more and more attached to my stuff I have left. My kids are too. Last week my sister (I guess) admired a rolling garden stool I have and my dad gave it to her. Just like that. At my sisters' her husband was rolling on it around a car (perfect wheel height) and that's how I found out. I bit my tongue and decided it wasn't worth being mad about, but did find out that it wasn't just borrowed. The "hutch" of my grandmothers I mentioned above was sold (with my permission) to a friend of my mothers. Did the lady admire it? I can see myself dreaming about this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 17:36:41 GMT -6
(BTW, thanks for referring me earlier to other posts of yours. Very helpful.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 19:02:21 GMT -6
I can definitely understand a bit of resentment in responsibility roles I keep telling myself..females were originally designed as home makers and child rearers not hunter/gatherers or decision makers..after a life of it..when I look back I'd love someone to take care of me for a change
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 22:25:05 GMT -6
I can definitely understand a bit of resentment in responsibility roles I keep telling myself..females were originally designed as home makers and child rearers not hunter/gatherers or decision makers..after a life of it..when I look back I'd love someone to take care of me for a change I hear ya there Jo...
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Post by paulette on Apr 27, 2012 23:38:01 GMT -6
Another dream: dreamed about 3 days ago. I didn't want to post it because it is/was terrible.
When my husband came home at 3:30 I was still in an emotional hang-over from my dream. I related it to him and said that I still felt sickened by it.
I'll try to tell it without traumatizing anyone else. I and another woman were somewhere like a warehouse in an industrial area. There was a sort of shore line outside but it was a shoreline in Hell. The mud and water were oil soaked and looked toxic. One couldn't jump off the dock and "escape".
We were naked and prisoners (I reverberated to your recent dream Skywalker). There was a WOMAN in charge of us and I may initially had hopes that we could speak to her or that she would be merciful. I didn't remember doing anything to result in being in my predicament. I didn't know the other people in the dream.
She took us in a back area and hurt us and smeared dirt in our wounds. There was not a trace of concern or compassion in her.
When I awoke I was shocked - literally could barely walk and couldn't shake off the dream. I wondered (even while awake) if I had been infected and would sicken in my waking world.
There was no plot. There was nothing I could do but wake up. My husband was concerned about me. I have NEVER DREAMED anything like this nor have I related anything like this to him or anyone else. All he could say was, "How could your mind come up with this?" It's a question I had as well.
Sorry if this was disturbing. I have no interest in its sensationalism and omitted much. It faded and I was VERY RELIEVED not to dream anything further like this. So far so good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 3:20:21 GMT -6
Whew. That's a pretty tough dream for sure... What do you think it means Paulette? You seem to be good at dream interpretations- better than I am...
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Post by skywalker on Apr 28, 2012 9:29:37 GMT -6
It sounds like a combination of different things that have been going through Paulette's mind lately. She has been thinking a lot about how pollution is destroying the planet, which would explain the dirty oily water and being in an industrial area, and she has also had dreams lately about being a prisoner of the Nazis, or some other dictatorial government. So have I for some reason. Given what has been going on in the world lately I can see why people would start having fears about the planet being ruined and the government running amok...because that is what is happening. Our dreams must be a reflection of our daily thoughts...kind of like our mind's way of trying to rationalize and warn us of things that are going on in the real world. If somebody goes swimming in the ocean and almost gets attacked by a shark, then they start having horrible nightmares about being eaten by sharks, than they are very likely not going to go swimming in the ocean again. The mind through the dream world was able to invoke a respons that keeps the person safe. If Paulette and I are thinking that the government is going to go berzerk and start imprisoning and torturing everybody than our subconscious mind through our dreams is going to try to make us aware of the danger so that we will hopefully takes steps to avoid it. Unfortunately there is not much we can do when confronted by evil all powerful governments, societies that dump pollution all over the planet, and alien beings that swoop down out of the sky and zap people with paralyzing beams of light. The mind is still trying to make us aware of the danger though. That's my wild guess anyway.
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Post by paulette on Apr 28, 2012 10:06:38 GMT -6
If we wanted to be cautious, we'd stop posting here (IMO). I'm relatively sure that our computer and home addresses have been harvested. Ditto FB - I re-post a lot of stuff from friends in the USA which are critical of the Powers That Be.
Incidentally, here is one of Carlin talking about aliens.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 28, 2012 13:03:20 GMT -6
I'm not afraid of the government. I don't like what they are doing to the country but even if they destroy everything that once made the country great they still can't destroy me. Sure, they could arrest me, torture me and kill me, but there is something inside of me that is a lot stronger than flesh and blood. It's called an idea...an idea where the people have freedom, liberty and justice for all...an idea where the people know the Truth...and ideas like that can not be killed.
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Post by auntym on Apr 28, 2012 14:37:48 GMT -6
If we wanted to be cautious, we'd stop posting here (IMO). I'm relatively sure that our computer and home addresses have been harvested. Ditto FB - I re-post a lot of stuff from friends in the USA which are critical of the Powers That Be. Incidentally, here is one of Carlin talking about aliens. i'm a big fan of george carlin...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 16:42:58 GMT -6
Eh..we're small potatoes..just a hand full of experiencers and abductees who no one will remotely believe anyway. Had we any value to them..we'd have been on their 'come hither' list long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 3:52:21 GMT -6
Eh..we're small potatoes..just a hand full of experiencers and abductees who no one will remotely believe anyway. Had we any value to them..we'd have been on their 'come hither' list long ago. ~nods~ I'm just a paranoid anxious young woman who's afraid of the dark and who remembers a "bad dream" from her childhood... just a bad dream... like the gray told me, "...this will allll seem like a dream..." ...just a bad dream... that's what I believed for years... that's what a lot of experiencers probably believe. Oh,I had that scary nightmare again... I shouldn't eat tacos for dinner anymore...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 10:46:38 GMT -6
Burritos are bad too... Sorry dear..life is just too short to eat tacos ;D
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Post by paulette on Apr 29, 2012 11:16:21 GMT -6
I would rob a bank to get a decent taco - freshly made torilla, fresh white mild cheese, some shredded chicken, maybe some lettuce or even cabbage (I ate a lot of cabbage tacos in Mexico) and some fresh salsa with lime and jalapenos. Sigh. We have a Taco Time here - what a joke. And a Tecate with a wedge of lime.
If the people masquerading as humans want to scoop me - they could bait the trap with tacos - just a little taco stand out in the middle of nowhere with a string of Xmas lights out front and Tejana music on the jukebox...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 17:11:47 GMT -6
Laughing...seeing Paulette racing after an alien ship..'but wait..you can have me for tacos....' LOL
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 4:26:51 GMT -6
LOL paulette... ;D I do like burritos... they used to be the cheapest thing in the freezer aisle at the supermarket... now they're extremely pricey and I can't afford them anymore...
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 11:20:41 GMT -6
They took my favorite type off the market..they used to have a beef and potato burrito for less than a buck and I loved the things. 'sigh' no mo..all gone..bad people
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2012 14:45:21 GMT -6
They took my favorite type off the market..they used to have a beef and potato burrito for less than a buck and I loved the things. 'sigh' no mo..all gone..bad people I know that feeling- with my finicky naturally curly hair it took me FOREVER to find the right products to control my frizz and make it look great- then they stopped making it so I had to start the trial and error phase again... over and over because they always stop making the one that works... I think the companies do it on purpose so they can make more money...
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Post by paulette on Jun 8, 2012 0:06:55 GMT -6
I'm back from a long driving trip - by ferry to Haida Gwaii (we took a little stateroom that had a tiny bathroom with a SHOWER all in about 4 feet square. Little bunks with edges (which kept us from rolling out when it got rough on the crossing). We drove back roads everywhere and collected wonderful rocks and had wonderful discussions with rock lovers and loggers, waitresses and other tourists. Now I'm sick with a cold that turned into pneumonia but am on antibiotics and hoping to turn the corner soon!
The curious thing was - I didn't see ANYTHING (or sense anything) UFOish in our travels and I sorta expected to! No glint of sun off something metallic in the distance. No hush or humming. We saw bears and signs of moose and elk and wolves (prints and scat). We even saw a spirit bear (pale brown chest, creamy back) on the side of the road happily eating plants in the ditch and ignoring the tourist cars.
It wasn't until this afternoon (first day home) - I had a nap in my own bed and slept probably 5 hours (I hadn't been able to sleep lying down for days) - and dreamed one of my usual strange dreams. There was a young woman who "wanted me to meet someone" and in the dream I knew that she meant, contact an alien person. (In the dream I was a young adult). She took me and a young man I didn't know somewhere isolated. He was in swimming trucks. A blonde man checked him out physically and told him he could stand to lose a few lbs. I just laughed because I was substancially more substancial. He frowned at my body but also ran his hands in what felt like a scan or frisk rather than anything sexual. They were trying to decide if I would be useful to them when I woke up. Interestingly, I was checking my piled messages and FB stuff and discovered a long article on datura - scopolamine. It is used in Columbia by criminals who blow it in one's face or drink and instantly the victim has no will power but is totally open to suggestion. Later they have no memory of what they have done. Victims carry their own furniture and possessions out past the doorman to a van, empty their bank accounts, etc. They may have dreams about what happened but cannot recall it consciously.
Scopalomine is not just a Columbian jungle plant though. It grows as Angel Trumpet (can be ordered from seed catalogues) both in nurseries and as a weed along Texas roads in the Rio Grande Valley and Mexico. It was used medically to "twilight" women having births without anesthetic in the 70's - I observed one of those births as a student nurse. The woman was screaming and thrashing but later didn't remember any of it. They discontinued it fairly rapidly I think.
It was also used (maybe still is) as anti-seasick patches that one placed behind one's ear. I used a few in the 80's when I had to go out on my husband's boat to work without working up to the extreme conditions they were fishing in. I was not seasick - I was altered. My eyes were dialated and I felt odd. The Columbians call it the "Devil's breath" because it takes away will. I was fishing with my husband and his #1 deckhand (female) whom I believe he was having an affair with and who "punished me" for being on the boat. I remember accepting the whole situation rather stoically. Maybe the patch had something to do with it. Anyway...this posting is pretty jumbled up but I think lost time and unremembered or patchily remembered events can be easily achieved by earthside pharmacology.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 0:29:59 GMT -6
Hum... thanks for the information on those anti-nausea patches... that's rather interesting... Every time I had to have surgery I had to get one of those anti-nausea patches behind my ear because I puke for several hours if they don't put it on me before they give me the sleeping juice... but I only used it in a hospital setting... so I dunno if it had the hypotic "zombie" effect on me or not... interesting... Interesting dream too... you were being "checked out" by an ET... hmmm... I wonder why? I also like how you said you were more "substantially substantial" lolz... I love that!!! ;D ;D ;D you made me laugh out loud when I read that because I'm a word nerd...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 0:32:43 GMT -6
I'm glad you had fun on your trip too Paulette... and I hope you get better soon- I was worried about you because I hadn't seen you in awhile...
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