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Post by auntym on Nov 21, 2011 13:57:17 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/article/alienhuman-hybrids-what-humankind-must-first-learn-about-alien-abductionsAlien/Human Hybrids - What Humankind Must First Learn about Alien Abductions!Submitted by Paul Schroeder on Mon, 11/21/2011 Within a blackness, a voice, intoning, resonant and deep, over and over and over: "What a beautiful child, such a lovely child." "What a lovely child, such a beautiful child." Over and over and over, again. Suddenly, I am drawn to a parade. Moving swiftly forward, striding, I can see the popcorn strewn sidewalk beneath my feet and I can smell cotton candy cloying sweetness wafting in the breeze. Just ahead, an excited blare of trumpets, a murmur of deeply lined crowds and a growing but yet still distant tattoo of drums, combine to urge and propel me forward. I am holding hands, pulling along two children,one in each hand, as I rush forward, expectantly eager, with an urgency that these two very small children experience the brassy, colorful thrill, of a parade. In my right hand is the palm of a human child, perhaps five years old, a child wiry and muscular with blond hair and bluest eyes, a robust human child. In my other hand, I grasp a small, withered hand, one of an odd looking, frail, non-human child, with black almond-shaped eyes and very long, skinny arms and legs, a sickly, tubular creature-child, who struggles but who can't keep up. I sweep this odd child up onto my shoulders to let it see ahead and to carry it ; I feel its joy as a strong psychic wave.. I look again, curious and more critical. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/alienhuman-hybrids-what-humankind-must-first-learn-about-alien-abductions
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 14:14:12 GMT -6
From the above article:
I have done this... it doesn't work. I tell it to go away and it comes back. Over and over and over again. I can't make it stop... this is a lie. ~puts hands on her hips~
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Post by paulette on Nov 21, 2011 19:10:01 GMT -6
Good Goddess. I'm glad I don't endorse this person's reality. If its true at all for me - I am much less affected. "Riding the rollercoaster of reincarnation" alien/human bonds - too big for this kid to even look at.
And yet I do have several instances of what I believe were cover memories. The dreams I had about a certain vacant lot next to our house which in my dreams has a cave shaped and in color like an igloo and covered in crystals. I want to go there. (I collected rocks as a kid). And the pony that had me unlocking a door in the middle of the night at aged 8 or so. And the white owl I saw after a restless night of camping out and being constantly awakened by noises but not being able to totally wake up. Does make one wonder.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 21:52:29 GMT -6
"Remember that creeping anxiety is the signature symptom of their psychic intrusion and that if you feel that fear building, they're already inside." This rings true for me. I can be having a pleasant dream, be enjoying myself, feelings and all (fooled), but have the physical effects of anxiety during the dream at the same time. These two things experienced together is extremely uncomfortable. I find myself pausing from whatever I'm doing in the dream and focusing on the anxiety only; its that uncomfortable. I have to wait for the anxiety to go away to continue. In "dreamland" this can be 2 days before I am "ok". Somehow, I hang on. It (the anxiety) does go away. And then later I wake up and think about how bizarre it is to have "physical" anxiety (plus mental) in a dream. I've just started recognizing the anxiety for what it is. Can't figure out the "why". A couple of weeks ago I dreamed that I had a "new baby". It was the size of the palm of my hand, and my family thought I was crazy to nurture it. I thought the dream was telling me something about an aunt of mine, because she in particular laughed at me. The "baby" seemed to die, with all these mean people around. I sobbed in my dream. Took the baby to another room (private) and tried to get it to drink a bottle. When I realized it had dirty pants (diaper), I realized it was alive. It suddenly grew to the size of a toddler. I woke up and thought about "the elephant in the room".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:43:20 GMT -6
"Since they primarily wait until one is in REM sleep, lucid dreaming works well to detect and interact with them and is worth all the trouble it takes to master techniques of lucid dreaming." (again, from article posted at ufodigest) Do I want to interact with them? I do think this has something to do with my issues with "lucid dreaming". Stiver said that she could lucid dream....people asked her questions about it on another forum, and of course I can't access that info... You all know I don't believe in reincarnation. I haven't "researched" this writer (Paul) to see what "he is about". But IMO this man put dreams and "demons" in their proper perspective. Anyone who thinks that I'm always thinking that "aliens" are demons/angels is not reading what I write. I do think that demon type beings are "along for the ride", but their powers (just as anyone else's) has it's limitations. The mistake (IMHO) that we as humans are making these days, and in the past, is thinking that with more knowledge, more time, more inventions (etc.) we will be able to do EVERYTHING. If we can do everything, we will not 'need' anything. Or anyone. Will we miss loneliness? Will we have children just to continue ourselves?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:58:49 GMT -6
"And yet I do have several instances of what I believe were cover memories." (from paulette, above). The guy also points out the weird "awe" he had with just seeing a staircase. Good clue. "I have done this... it doesn't work. I tell it to go away and it comes back. Over and over and over again. I can't make it stop... this is a lie. ~puts hands on her hips~ " ( from lorelei, above) The guy said "they" keep coming back. He didn't lie (IMO). He also explains why they keep coming back to certain people, and how they have to change "tactics" to approach you. Obviously a LOT of people want "it" to stop, and stopping it is temporary. Don't forget we live in an "instant gratification" state . I'm wondering if sky has read this guy? How the guy started putting the pieces together? Skywalker...? I want to know what you think .............. Like I said, I haven't read anything else from this guy, or know anything about him. For all I know, he is an alias for some "big name" like davidicke. I don't know if I want to research this guy "paul". Some of his other ideas may be too much, and like the human I am, I then develop an opinion that everything he says is "wrong".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 11:03:40 GMT -6
auntym: do you always just post articles that are possibly of relevance? Does this article affect you in any way? Obviously you make the time and effort, and have seen all kinds of theories, partial facts, and speculations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 11:10:03 GMT -6
JC: Instant Gratification, huh? I've been fighting with this for years. There is nothing "Instant" about my * lack of * gratification. I can't focus on my thoughts being invaded 24/7. I do not have the luxury of being able to focus my entire attention on psychic intrusion. I have to work and other things. I also have to sleep. It's not like I can be standing behind the counter at work and shout, "STOP IT! IN THE NAME OF GOD STOP IT!" in front of my boss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 11:23:26 GMT -6
Oh Yeah. You go girl!
I do expect them to get the H _ _ _ away from me when I REMEMBER to tell them to stop (in this fashion).
And darn! I was hoping that you shouting behind the counter was the reason why your co workers initially whispered about you!
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"I do not have the luxury of being able to focus my entire attention on psychic intrusion."
Which leads to the big question, "who does??" And why, if it is happening so often (must be several beings' jobs) are we seemingly vulnerable to it?
Do "they" have jobs? Do "they" eat? Sleep, take a break? Eeeee gads!
Thanks lorelei! I want to be able to "hold" this kind of anger inside of me, and still smile at everyone (parents, customers?) else.
Ya know?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 11:57:44 GMT -6
I know I seem like a nutcase on here but that's because I can stream my true thoughts through text on here. Few people know about my psychic problems and my sleep problems and my strange anxieties.
People who know me will tell you I'm very intelligent, open minded, and short tempered... and perhaps eccentric or "odd".
The reason for the whispering at work is simple. A 19 year old army wife just out of high school who is constantly getting in trouble with the boss decided to take it upon herself to focus all of the negative attention she was getting on me by telling lies. Things like, "She never worked for this company before. She was never a supervisor!" and "I can't find her anywhere! She disappeared (when I was in the same spot for two hours and she had talked to me 20 minutes before I had "disappeared").
And what did she accomplish with this childish high school game? She ended up creating MORE negative attention focused on HER because I went and complained to the big boss lady... the store manager whom I had worked with two years before.
She thought she could get away with it because our immediate boss is her "friend". She didn't know that the boss lady of her "friend" is MY "friend". ;D
~grumbles~ ... going around the store and telling some random 17 year old who works in the electronics department whom I hadn't met that I "like" him... yea... like I'm going to be interested in dating a teenager with a meager income when I'm dating a multi-millionaire who is my age and six foot ten...
..I hate teenagers...
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Post by auntym on Nov 23, 2011 12:05:57 GMT -6
auntym: do you always just post articles that are possibly of relevance? Does this article affect you in any way? Obviously you make the time and effort, and have seen all kinds of theories, partial facts, and speculations. hi jcurio.... well i hope this article (or other articles ) i've posted has relevance for some of us.... paul schroeder's article has similar characteristics i've read from other posters on here over time.... and i thought everyone would like to hear another story....so they would know they are not alone.... personally, i was fascinated with his story because he talks about being wrapped in a blanket of black..... a few months ago i posted about a dream or OBE i had where i was in a black space (it felt like a box) with no stars and that upset me because i wanted to see the stars.....to me this sounded very similar to what he experienced.....and i had not heard of anyone having that type of experience before.... my memories of abductions are all favorable.... i don't know if they are or not but those are the ones i remember....maybe they are screen memories....IDK.... ... the other night i dreamed of a big bull-frog i was trying to get away from.... was that a bad abduction or just a dream.... i can tell you whenever i feel threatened or scared for no reason i always bring in MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL for protection... and that seems to get rid of my fears.... i hope this answers your questions....
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Post by paulette on Nov 23, 2011 12:08:01 GMT -6
IMO I was marked - possibly at an early age, at least by the time I had my experience in my early twenties. This allowed "Them" to ring me up maybe whenever they were in the neighborhood. Or maybe for "Them" the neighborhood extends as far as their psychic abilities do. Which could be intergalactic. Steve in his dialogues with Han I believe has a bit in which Han said that they have mental collective processes. So an individual could go for the alien version of a smoke and some other operator could put the call through. (I now have a somewhat hysterical version of an alien call center like the ones that try to sell my cruises or upgrade my cell phone at least once a day).
The part that makes me relunctant to follow this branch of speculation very far is that I don't think most of us do anything all that interesting. Monitor world leaders - sure. Monitor scientists yep. Monitor Paulette whose life is only slightly more interesting than watching paint dry - why? Unless our emotions are like soap operas to them and they can interact to change the script by stirring things up (psychically) on their favorite characters. So then they would discover that I am attempting to live as if my son isn't talking to me (now 3 months). But if I was into second hand emotions I personally would have watched the X factor in which the aspiring singers dedicated their songs to dead mothers, best friends and the emotions swept over the whole assembled audience. There were people crying in the back row. So I repeat - my life is just not that interesting unless someone is writing the equivilent of a deadly boring master's thesis in alien (us) experiences.
But then again, I don't have much feeling about contact except the odd dream which might be a replay. Maybe my monitor fell asleep watching...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 21:00:21 GMT -6
Sorry about earlier. I was grumpy. I do agree Auntym, and I appreciate you posting these stories. A lot of what he said in the article "rang true" to me, I just got annoyed and grumpy when he brought it up because it is something I struggle with frequently. Feeling another consciousness in my mind and not being able to do anything about it. Push it away and it comes back stronger. Push it away and it comes back stronger... over and over and over again... and as soon as I have to focus on something else... all control is gone. I can't block it from me anymore and it just seeps into my mind into every nook and cranny. I don't know if it's "them" or my imagination or spirits or what. It's just irritating is all I know...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 0:21:38 GMT -6
I also appreciate abduction cases posted..makes me feel less singular and even if they are unalike to our own...they can each be as real as what we 'remember' just very different.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 20:46:05 GMT -6
I read "Abduction" by John E. Mack within the last 2 yrs. and it was very hard to get through. Maybe I'm now more "open" to reading others' experiences. IDK. I do appreciate all the comments made here, even lorelei being grumpy, and the specific details that were acknowledged. Lorelei, let me apologize in advance, because I did read your personal thread, but how old were you when you first noticed the "physic trespassers"? I have them also, but maybe in a different way... thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 20:54:48 GMT -6
No worries JC. I posted it there for others to read it, no need to apologize for that... I'm not sure how old I was... maybe... about 14? That's how old I was when I told my counselor I was seeing about the "vampire" dreams... and I told her I thought they were real...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 21:46:45 GMT -6
whoa....I am totally forgetful. Vampire dreams?? I'm going back to your thread! Surely I'll find you mentioning that. I am so "haunted" by those things
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 21:54:40 GMT -6
lorelei, should I go looking in your dream journal?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 21:55:49 GMT -6
Not sure if I mentioned it on my thread or not... I know I mentioned it somewhere... lol...
They weren't really vampires. I just told my counselor (a woman my parents were forcing me to see every Tuesday after school) I was dreaming about them and I thought they were real and I thought they were "in my head" sometimes. She freaked out so I never brought it up again... that's pretty much all there is to it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 22:43:42 GMT -6
"They weren't really vampires. " Oh. However, you did make me realize I need to finish your dreaming thread. THAT's where you also mentioned that you self-hypnotize. Dumb me. I did read your entire personal thread already, . Good me. _______________________________________________________________________________ "She freaked out so I never brought it up again"....WHY do they do this?? So helpful (sarcasm dripping down chin). When I told my "dr" that I was engaged to a "government type", he stopped me. "Hey, I don't want to know anything that might have someone looking for me at home" he said. Thanks, friend. Who am I supposed to download to that has a confidentiality clause? Huh? yeah, yeah. That's another secret. But we have been broke up for over a year now, and the phone he gave me "went on a little trip" . Why am I suddenly bringing this up here? I don't want any secrets. And some people here (I assume) already know because I pm'd another member at an old forum thinking (naively) that it was private. Anyway, I've learned a lot more here than I ever did from him, and he was "my fiance'" for 3 years. Yeah, I think it was a "set up". "They" knew I'd feel instant familiarity with him, and care for him, but they forgot that I "see" things "they" don't want me to. Whew. Happy Thanksgiving to Me! (Now maybe those occasional anony. calls will stop). Anybody freaking out? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 2:11:43 GMT -6
Ok. I've just had one of my 'tupid coincidences. I can't sleep. I decided to read more of this guy, Paul S. I went to his website iwasabducted. I read the first article, and then went to his article about alarm clocks *. Then read the rest of the articles from bottom to top, making mental notes of information i want to further check. I just looked up "Hokkaido (spelling) Japan". This just happens to be the locale of two earthquakes yesterday...
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Post by skywalker on Nov 25, 2011 19:19:37 GMT -6
I'm wondering if sky has read this guy? How the guy started putting the pieces together? Skywalker...? I want to know what you think .............. I have never heard of this Paul dude. I looked up some of the things he has written and it seems like he has his own blog but I haven't had a chance to read through it yet. Seems like it might be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2011 12:29:38 GMT -6
At the bottom of Paul Schroeders' ufo digest articles is a short bio: "Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have opened all this for Paul, a confirmed atheist, UNTIL he saw aliens float him out of his body, in his bed, at night."........ This is where I thought about you, skywalker, from your experience in your bedroom. You know I go "back and forth" on what could have caused this to happen to you (it probably frets me more than you these days ) This guy also talks about a seemingly half-asleep experience where "something" latched on to the back of his neck. I also have a "scar" on the back of my neck. And frequent neck troubles. I'm sure that I'm behind on reading current stories/events of "abductees" coming forward. I've said before, that one reason was because I didn't want anything to possibly alter my own memories, now that I'm accepting of my "plight". I would like for paulette to read the story "Tinkerbell", as forwarded by Paul from an abductee. The ending (where the guy went into his own child's bedroom) seems pretty important. Thanks
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Post by skywalker on Nov 26, 2011 21:31:45 GMT -6
That is kind of interesting. A few weeks after the experience where I floated up in the beam of light I had another experience where something stuck me in the back. It felt like somebody drove a needle right into my spine. I ended up getting very sick as a result. I also have a scar on the back of my neck, also right above the spine. Some times it will heal up then return later on as a fresh wound. Still haven't figured that one out either. Maybe I should read some of what this Paul character has to say.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 10:26:15 GMT -6
If you do, I'd very much like to know what you think . This guy has quite a bit to say about "dreams".
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Post by sunbow on Dec 26, 2011 21:18:08 GMT -6
I found the article interesting, but do not agree with some of it. Remembering things and dreaming things as memories are two different things and with screen memories on top of it, I think anyone who jumps to the conclusion that they know what is going on has an ego problem. There was too much in his memories that seemed borrowed from other written material. I know that there are many people who report similar experiences, but also many who report very divergent and bizarre experiences. IMO there are several to many groups visiting with different agendas and their actions often overlap and sometimes conflict. Paul seems like he is trying to make sense out of it by reading up and coming to conclusions.
Even with a several generation experience family, genetics seems a small part of it, as some family members are selected, when they would share much similar DNA. The Hybrid thing is perhaps one project, but not the main one (IMO).
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Post by randy on Mar 17, 2012 13:32:24 GMT -6
For those who may remember me from Mufon I believe I have some very clear ideas of what has happened to me in alien abductions and I have talked to people who were abducted with me and while they remember also what happened they lack the resolve to say anything in public. Some are in denial remembering but aliens just cant be what happened to us. there is always a strong suggestion from the greys themselves to forget and to not say anything about it to anyone. having fought the fight to remember and remembered in some but not all cases i can say it is really hard to do and takes time. About 1961 a kid down the street from me whose name I have since remembered killed himself leaving a note that he had been taken over by aliens and could not handle it. In school I found myself saying he had to be crazy to say that and while saying that I wondered why was I saying it at all. later I realize that i was part of the spin control that had to cover up the event as it was a big clue as to the base being where I said it is. A rather sincere testimony as to what was going on and is probably still going on there. having spent a few years in college and gotten a masters in geology I learned to cut the flowery language and to just say it as it is. One is supposed to weasel word in case you are wrong on things the Profs said but this no time for that. the suicide is real and so was the note. i dont mention the kids name as there are probably rules on that issue.
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Post by paulette on Mar 17, 2012 14:37:28 GMT -6
At the bottom of Paul Schroeders' ufo digest articles is a short bio: "Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have opened all this for Paul, a confirmed atheist, UNTIL he saw aliens float him out of his body, in his bed, at night."........ I would like for paulette to read the story "Tinkerbell", as forwarded by Paul from an abductee. The ending (where the guy went into his own child's bedroom) seems pretty important. Thanks I overlooked this somehow and found the site and read the story by Tinkerbell/about Tinkerbell? I always thought that fairies were not little bugs that glowed. That's Disney's whitewashed version. Fairies (in old fairy tales) were neither friendly nor unfriendly to humans. They sometimes stole babies, leaving a child that was not a child and did not thrive. They tricked people into wandering to their deaths on the Moors. These people often had lost time - sometimes as in Rip VanWinkle - their whole life was missed. Partying with fairies had big consequences for humans - even if they remembered it as fun, they often were hopelessly in love with someone who they could never find again. Fairy gold often disappeared. I had a dream (a series of dreams) in which I went into an area that was fenced off and guarded. There were people (sorta) on the side who could be briefly glimpsed. I was curious and went over the fence (this story might be for you Randy). I was shot by the border guards and knew I was dying (heavy dream!) I then was aware that a man/a fairy/an otherly person was observing me. I looked up without fear (I had accepted my death). He suddenly scooped me up and dove into some nearby water. He swam underwater with me for far longer than I could hold my breath - but I didn't seem to need to breathe. He came up in a room of roots and such and some people gathered who seemed very displeased that I was there. However they tended to my wound and fed me soup. The dream went on from there. I learned things (not remembered on awakening). I realized that they could materialize in any body of water and get away the same way. The erected fences could not fence off all the bodies of water in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 16:04:28 GMT -6
Randy, thank you for sharing the story with us... I also used to laugh at people on TV who would talk about their experiences when I was younger too... Sorry to hear about the suicide you mentioned. It happens far too often... ~hugz Randy~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 17:20:21 GMT -6
At the bottom of Paul Schroeders' ufo digest articles is a short bio: "Abductions and their remnant elusive memories have opened all this for Paul, a confirmed atheist, UNTIL he saw aliens float him out of his body, in his bed, at night."........ I would like for paulette to read the story "Tinkerbell", as forwarded by Paul from an abductee. The ending (where the guy went into his own child's bedroom) seems pretty important. Thanks I overlooked this somehow and found the site and read the story by Tinkerbell/about Tinkerbell? I always thought that fairies were not little bugs that glowed. That's Disney's whitewashed version. Fairies (in old fairy tales) were neither friendly nor unfriendly to humans. They sometimes stole babies, leaving a child that was not a child and did not thrive. They tricked people into wandering to their deaths on the Moors. These people often had lost time - sometimes as in Rip VanWinkle - their whole life was missed. Partying with fairies had big consequences for humans - even if they remembered it as fun, they often were hopelessly in love with someone who they could never find again. Fairy gold often disappeared. I had a dream (a series of dreams) in which I went into an area that was fenced off and guarded. There were people (sorta) on the side who could be briefly glimpsed. I was curious and went over the fence (this story might be for you Randy). I was shot by the border guards and knew I was dying (heavy dream!) I then was aware that a man/a fairy/an otherly person was observing me. I looked up without fear (I had accepted my death). He suddenly scooped me up and dove into some nearby water. He swam underwater with me for far longer than I could hold my breath - but I didn't seem to need to breathe. He came up in a room of roots and such and some people gathered who seemed very displeased that I was there. However they tended to my wound and fed me soup. The dream went on from there. I learned things (not remembered on awakening). I realized that they could materialize in any body of water and get away the same way. The erected fences could not fence off all the bodies of water in the world. All that matters, paulette, is you did find it (tinkerbell ?) . I can't explain how I feel. Just that I knew there was some "relevance" here that you would understand. And most of all, I wish you wouldn't sell yourself short for experimenting with a few substances. Time and time again there have been studies about shamanistic practices that show a possible scientific model. That results are repeated. There have also been studies on isolation tanks, sleep deprivation, truth serums, and shockingly, torture. It's all about getting around that filter part of our brain. How many people can be honest and say that they sometimes feel "closer to G_d" after drinking a few alcoholic beverages? Not every time of course,
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