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Post by auntym on Sept 2, 2012 12:54:14 GMT -6
www.ghosttheory.com/2012/09/02/las-vegas-ufo-lecture-the-military-ufosSubmitted by Javier Ortega September 2, 2012 Las Vegas UFO Lecture: The Military & UFOsI think I may finally have a reason to take the three hour drive up to Las Vegas. And it’s not for some degenerate weekend getaway. Well maybe. The National Atomic Testing Museum –affiliated with the Smithsonian Institution– is having a one-night event that will features speakers the U.S. military as well from the United Kingdom. Th subject at matter: Area 51 On the night of September 22 the speakers will divulge any information and personal accounts about the little green men and their technology. Nick Pope, who worked with the Ministry Of Defense (UK) will be speaking that night. Also speaking that night is Col. Robert Friend. He served as the director for Project Blue Book. The list of speakers continue with Col. Charles Halt, of the Rendlesham Forest incident, Col. Bill Coleman (Project Blue Book) and Col. John Alexander. Who created the top-level group of government officials and scientist to study UFOs. Most of the speakers have written extensively on the subject of UFOs and Area 51, so don’t be surprised if they’re peddling their books. (wouldn’t you write about your experiences?) So, who’s up for an official GhostTheory road trip from L.A.? CONTINUE READING: www.ghosttheory.com/2012/09/02/las-vegas-ufo-lecture-the-military-ufos Military UFO Files Secrets Revealed [/color] Published on Aug 28, 2012 by NationalAtomicMuseum Military UFO Files Secrets Revealed
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Post by auntym on Sept 2, 2012 13:20:36 GMT -6
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197053/National-Atomic-Testing-Museum-Area-51-UFO-secrets-revealed-Smithsonian-Institute-speakers.html Area 51 UFO 'secrets' to be revealed by Las Vegas Smithsonian Institute[/color] By Nina Golgowski PUBLISHED: 2 September 2012 Closeted UFO believers may have a reason to come out this month, at least for one night. Delving into the extra-terrestrial mysteries of Area 51, a Smithsonian Institution affiliated museum in Las Vegas has announced plans for a one-night event featuring speakers from both the U.S. military and U.K. The National Atomic Testing Museum announced the event, scheduled for September 22, to reveal the men's personal stories that propelled them to write books and lead their own investigations outside, as well as inside, the military. Landing site: The National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas, pictured, has invited five speakers, some of whom investigated UFO activity for the FBI's Project Blue Book Revealed! Area 51 and some its secrets are expected to be revealed at a panel discussion this month at a Smithsonian-affiliated museum in Nevada 'What you're getting from this panel are people who have worked with the military, all of whom certainly agree that UFOs are real, and I think most of them would say it ought to be researched,' Col. John Alexander, one of the scheduled speakers told the Huffington Post. 'Here, you're getting a small number [of participants], but high credibility people,' he said. CONTINUE READING: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2197053/National-Atomic-Testing-Museum-Area-51-UFO-secrets-revealed-Smithsonian-Institute-speakers.html
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Post by swamprat on Sept 12, 2012 17:18:47 GMT -6
The Sarasota Herald Tribune
De Void
UFO panel a blast from the pastTuesday, September 11, 2012 by Billy Cox Not surprisingly, National Atomic Testing Museum executive director Allan Palmer has triggered a whinefest for having the gall to sponsor an upcoming lecture billed as “Military UFO Files: Secrets Revealed.” Mainly it’s coming from the How can you sully the Smithsonian brand with little green men? crowd. Palmer doesn’t care. Although the Atomic Testing Museum is affiliated with the Smithsonian, it isn’t a subsidiary. And when it comes to UFOs, like most reasonably intelligent people, the retired Navy commander would prefer an independent inquiry to a laughably outdated government fact sheet. “Well it is a little risky, because we’ve got something of a reputation to uphold,” says Palmer, whose remarkable Museum in Las Vegas routinely displays loaner material from the Smithsonian. “But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” True enough. Ergo, on Sept. 22 in Las Vegas, Palmer is convening five well-vetted panelists — John Alexander, Charles Halt, Nick Pope, Bob Friend and Bill Coleman — for the provocative “Secrets Revealed” discussion. Question: Considering how the collective experiences of these old hands have been bouncing around in the public domain forever, what can they offer that we don’t already know? Plenty, insists Palmer. For instance, Bill Coleman, the retired Air Force colonel and former Project Blue Book mouthpiece, insists he’s got a “blockbuster” up his sleeve. “I’m 89. I won’t be around much longer,” Coleman says from his home in Indian Harbour Beach. He says he’s resisted multiple third-party efforts to pry it out of him before said date. Coleman, who once chased a daylight disc in the summer of 1955, only to discover his report had unaccountably vanished from the Blue Book archives, co-produced the “Project UFO” series for NBC in 1978-79. Until several years ago, he was working on a related memoir, but was unable to finish it. But he shared his story with Merv Griffin in the Seventies, as well as on the nationally-televised “UFO Coverup Live” in 1988. Coleman should fit right in at the Atomic Testing Museum, dedicated to showcasing artifacts from one of the most extraordinarily weird epochs in American history. In the spring of 1955, he volunteered for eyewitness duty at the Nevada Test Site, and he’s lucky to be alive. Get a load of this account, and the twist at the end: The World War II veteran and 36 military colleagues have settled into 4.5-foot deep trenches bordering the shot tower, maybe 3,000 yards from ground zero, to watch the latest edition of a 14-part nuclear bomb series called Operation Teapot. Actually, they’re not watching it at all; their backs are facing the bomb. Coleman has his head swaddled in blankets. At t-minus 13 seconds on the countdown clock, the wind takes an abrupt shift and blows directly toward the trenches. But it’s too late for ignition abort. When the bomb goes off (Coleman says he was told the yield was more than 50 kilotons, or nearly three Hiroshimas), he can detect its light through the fabric. Easing up for a peek, he and his trenchmates see an anthropomorphic dummy fixed to a post behind them is ablaze. The needle on the scintillator is pegging into the red, making the zone so hot the command center refuses to send trucks. “I said, ‘Let’s get the hell out of here,’” Coleman recalls, but another officer says no, they’d be getting dusted by fallout the whole march back. So they wind up trekking toward ground zero instead, through the burning “doom town” structures and the blasted armor, including an upside-down heavy tank flung 200 feet from its original anchor. “We were trapped there for four hours,” says Coleman, who came to within 1,200 yards of the fireball’s spread. “I never really quite got over it.” Coleman hit the decontamination scrub-down twice before he was allowed to leave quarantine. Within three years, he was diagnosed with leukemia. “I asked the doctor how bad it was,” Coleman recalls. “He said ‘Buy as much insurance as you can.’ He gave me four months to live.” As a last resort, Coleman consulted a family physician, who prescribed two quarts of “some kind of tonic,” he says. Coleman says he never found out the ingredients, but it was a red liquid that tasted awful. “I have no idea what happened,” he says. “But suddenly, the leukemia went away. I’ve got to blame it on the Lord.” So far as Coleman knows, he’s the sole surviving witness from the trench. “All those other guys,” he says, “are dead.” De Void is betting that nothing new Coleman can offer about UFOs will match a miracle cure for cancer. devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13254/ufo-panel-a-blast-from-the-past/
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Post by skywalker on Sept 12, 2012 20:43:58 GMT -6
“But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” There has been plenty of "true science" and "analytical thought" put into the UFO phenomenon. This guy just doesn't know it because he obviously hasn't been studying the subject for years and years like many people in the ufological community have. All he has ever heard about are the hoaxes and the silly "little green men" stories that the news media sarcastically reports. It makes me wonder just how qualified he is to be putting on an exhibit about UFOs if he knows so little about the subject. That doesn't mean he shoeldn't do it though. Any time anybody takes this subject seriously it is definitely a good thing. I don't see how anybody can have any type of a "blockbuster" if all they have are words and stories. We hear crazy stories and allegations all the time but without physical evidence to back it up and prove it they are just meaningless words. If this guy were to whup an alien out of his back pocket that might be considered a blockbuster. Anything else is just going to be like..."Yeah...whatever."
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Post by plutronus on Sept 13, 2012 3:59:53 GMT -6
“But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” SkyWalker commented:
There has been plenty of "true science" and "analytical thought" put into the UFO phenomenon. This guy just doesn't know it because he obviously hasn't been studying the subject for years and years like many people in the ufological community have. All he has ever heard about are the hoaxes and the silly "little green men" stories that the news media sarcastically reports. It makes me wonder just how qualified he is to be putting on an exhibit about UFOs if he knows so little about the subject. That doesn't mean he shoeldn't do it though. Any time anybody takes this subject seriously it is definitely a good thing. <<< Quote src: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=literature&thread=2735&page=1#ixzz26KpqZ4VF
And when it comes to UFOs, like most reasonably intelligent people, the retired Navy commander [Palmer] would prefer an independent inquiry to a laughably outdated government fact sheet.
“Well it is a little risky, because we’ve got something of a reputation to uphold,” says Palmer, whose remarkable Museum in Las Vegas routinely displays loaner material from the Smithsonian. “But I feel strongly that the (UFO) story has not been covered properly, and that not a lot of true science or analytical thought has gone into it.” >>>
SkyWalker,
Things may not be as they appear. Palmer is apparently a fairly smart guy, probably knows know more about the subject than he can openly admit, as most are forced to quiet who are in the general public view.
However, I also tend to agree with Palmer's statement. Unfortunately, and truth be known, there has been virtually little science applied to known non-UFO (meaning while object origin is unknown, it is known by its behavior to be not-from-around-here...ie, Earth made) objects. This state is a genuine problem. In today's science thinking ET subjects aren't just laughable, but are non-existent in science thought. Take the study of any subject, ants for instance. How much would Humanity know about ET subjects, if ET objects had been studied as often and by as many researchers who have studied ants? I can almost name **ALL** of the scientists who have studied ET on one hand. How many hands would be required to count the researchers throughout history who have studied, ants, or daffodils or automobile exhaust emissions, or the diversity of snowflakes by comparison? Viewed in this context, how does Palmer's statement appear? Taken in the vantage of how science really works, UFOology, by comparison, statistically, is an unstudied subject but which has a small dedicated contrail of sighters and believers.
I wish that things were different, and as I've mentioned elsewhere, the hemispheric issue is a significant one, with this being one of its many effects. The left hemis are the scientist types.
plutronus
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Post by skywalker on Sept 13, 2012 20:56:23 GMT -6
I admit the UFO topic hasn't been investigated anywhere near as much as it should be, or if it has been those investigations and the results of them have been kept away from the public. There have been some serious people who have looked into it though and they have come up with some interesting results, which makes me wonder why nobody else is looking into it. Why would anybody waste their time studying ants and flowers and the mating habits of the blue-butted fruit fly when there is a real mystery that could totally revolutionize scientific thinking staring them right in the face? Is it peer pressure that causes them to stay away? Pressure from the government? What else could it be? I don't understand why more people aren't interested in these types of unexplained phenomenon, whether it be UFOs or ghosts or whatever. The Marfa Lights is a good example of a real unexplained phenomenon that actually exists and can be proven to exist by anybody who goes out there and looks at the darned things yet there isn't a scientist in sight who has the slightest bit of curiosity about them. The starchild skull is another example. The scientific tests that have been done on that skull and the unusual results that have so far been found should have every scientist on the planet crawling all over that skull but instead they seem to be more interested in staring at the blue butt of a flying bug. That makes no sense to me at all. Whatever it is that is keeping the scientists away from the UFO topic isn't going to be changed by an exhibit in a museum though. The negative reputation UFOs have gotten over the past fifty years is too ingrained throughout society. Everybody seems to think it is a joke. At least this guy is taking it seriously. I have to applaud him for that at. What really annoys me about all of this is the way these so-called serious researchers look down on us "amateurs" and criticize the work that we are doing when the only reason we are doing it is because they refuse to.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 14, 2012 5:36:49 GMT -6
I admit the UFO topic hasn't been investigated anywhere near as much as it should be, or if it has been those investigations and the results of them have been kept away from the public. There have been some serious people who have looked into it though and they have come up with some interesting results, which makes me wonder why nobody else is looking into it. Why would anybody waste their time studying ants and flowers and the mating habits of the blue-butted fruit fly when there is a real mystery that could totally revolutionize scientific thinking staring them right in the face? Is it peer pressure that causes them to stay away? Pressure from the government? What else could it be? I don't understand why more people aren't interested in these types of unexplained phenomenon, whether it be UFOs or ghosts or whatever. The Marfa Lights is a good example of a real unexplained phenomenon that actually exists and can be proven to exist by anybody who goes out there and looks at the darned things yet there isn't a scientist in sight who has the slightest bit of curiosity about them. The starchild skull is another example. The scientific tests that have been done on that skull and the unusual results that have so far been found should have every scientist on the planet crawling all over that skull but instead they seem to be more interested in staring at the blue butt of a flying bug. That makes no sense to me at all. Whatever it is that is keeping the scientists away from the UFO topic isn't going to be changed by an exhibit in a museum though. The negative reputation UFOs have gotten over the past fifty years is too ingrained throughout society. Everybody seems to think it is a joke. At least this guy is taking it seriously. I have to applaud him for that at. What really annoys me about all of this is the way these so-called serious researchers look down on us "amateurs" and criticize the work that we are doing when the only reason we are doing it is because they refuse to. <<< Why would anybody waste their time studying ants and flowers and the mating habits of the blue-butted fruit fly when there is a real mystery that could totally revolutionize scientific thinking staring them right in the face? Is it peer pressure that causes them to stay away? >>>Good question. Why study ants instead of ET? Interest. Left hemi's aren't interested to think about right hemi ideas. ET subject isn't interesting to the left hemi's and statistically there are more left hemi's than right hemi's being born. This is an element in the abduction control-loop "tuning".
<<< What really annoys me about all of this is the way these so-called serious researchers look down on us "amateurs" >>>
The criticism is at times by caused by those amateurs who play at doing science, while nothing is more grating to a person who suffered 6 to 12 years of academic school torture to become an authentic investigator, than to have a non-schooler, or a low-schooler (high-school & maybe an associate degree and or even a BS degreer) doing 'research'. While often its found in UFOology, that many of the ET believers/knowers who transform into investigators, its learned, who have not finished high-school, who are doing UFO 'research'.
<<< ....and criticize the work that we are doing when the only reason we are doing it is because they refuse to. >>>
Nature of the beast. Until the curve is oriented in our favor, we must ignore the naysayers and focus on what we must do, while doing the best that we can.
plutronus
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Post by skywalker on Sept 17, 2012 16:11:12 GMT -6
The criticism is at times by caused by those amateurs who play at doing science, while nothing is more grating to a person who suffered 6 to 12 years of academic school torture to become an authentic investigator, than to have a non-schooler, or a low-schooler (high-school & maybe an associate degree and or even a BS degreer) doing 'research'. While often its found in UFOology, that many of the ET believers/knowers who transform into investigators, its learned, who have not finished high-school, who are doing UFO 'research'. That could almost describe me. I'm an ET experiencer who eventually became an investigator but the reason I did is because I am not satisfied with the answers that we are being given by the so-called "experts." The usual swamp gas and weather balloons just isn't going to cut it with me. Maybe that silly disinfo nonsense might fool the average member of society because the average member probably doesn't care one way or another. I'm not the average member of society either. I've seen what those things are capable of. I have reached out and touched the unknown and that has only fueled my desire to know more...to make the unknown familiar and understandable. If serious scientists aren't going to investigate these unexplainable phenomenon then amateurs are going to have to step up and become serious. I'm not claiming to be a serious researcher but I learn more and more every day. Someday I'll get there.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 17, 2012 16:16:45 GMT -6
I do have to admit though that there are a lot of clowns pretending to be ufologists. There are a lot of hoaxers and practical jokers and a lot of people who are only using UFOs as a vehicle to promote themselves. It does get pretty frustrating sometimes having to wade through a mountain of BS just to find a kernal of truth. I think that last statement you made pretty accurately sums it up. We just have to do the best we can...
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Post by auntym on Sept 21, 2012 13:43:16 GMT -6
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/ufo-secrets-national-atomic-testing-museum_n_1902019.html?icid=maing-grid7Lee Speigel lee.speigel@huffingtonpost.com UFO Secrets To Be Revealed At National Atomic Testing MuseumPosted: 09/21/2012 Four retired Army and Air Force colonels and a former British Ministry of Defense investigator join forces this weekend at the National Atomic Testing Museum to speak on a subject public officials rarely address -- UFOs. The Smithsonian-affiliated museum's special lecture, "Military UFOs: Secrets Revealed" is open to the public and has been long anticipated by researchers of unexplained phenomena. The exact nature of the secrets hasn't been revealed, but the participants form a historic who's who of UFO researchers spanning half a century. nationalatomictesting At least one of the participants has strongly hinted he's going to reveal startling UFO-related information that hasn't yet seen the light of day. "I'm going to explain what I think and what I believe, and this is after all these years thinking about it. I think I've got the answer and no one has ever mentioned it," said retired Air Force Col. William Coleman. Coleman is a former Air Force bomber pilot, public affairs officer and chief spokesman for the Air Force's Project Blue Book between 1961 and 1963. Blue Book was the official 20-year study of UFOs, which ended in 1969, after reaching several negative conclusions about UFOs, including: CONTINUE READING: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/ufo-secrets-national-atomic-testing-museum_n_1902019.html?icid=maing-grid7
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Post by auntym on Sept 25, 2012 13:20:23 GMT -6
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/ufo-secrets-turn-out-to-be-strong-opinions_n_1907492.htmlLee Speigel lee.speigel@huffingtonpost.com
Charles Halt, Former Air Force Colonel, Accuses U.S. Of UFO Cover-Up[/color] Posted: 09/24/2012 Panel members at the "Military UFOs: Secrets Revealed" lecture held at the Smithsonian-affiliated National Atomic Testing Museum on Sept. 22, 2012. LAS VEGAS -- Former Air Force Col. Charles Halt accused the federal government of a UFO cover-up that involves a secret agency to deal with what might be extraterrestrial visitations. "I'm firmly convinced there's an agency, and there is an effort to suppress," Halt told an audience of 200 people Saturday night at the Smithsonian-affiliated National Atomic Testing Museum. Two former Air Force officers who were part of the infamous Project Blue Book -- the military's official UFO investigation in the 1950s and '60s -- and a former investigator with Britain's Ministry of Defense were among the panel of speakers for a program entitled "Military UFOs: Secrets Revealed." Halt, pictured below, was the deputy base commander of the RAF Bentwaters military base in England and one of numerous eyewitnesses to several UFO-related events at Rendlesham Forest in December 1980. He believes the observed UFOs were either extraterrestrial or extradimensional in origin. CHARLES HALT "I've heard many people say that it's time for the government to appoint an agency to investigate," Halt said. "Folks, there is an agency, a very close-held, compartmentalized agency that's been investigating this for years, and there's a very active role played by many of our intelligence agencies that probably don't even know the details of what happens once they collect the data and forward it. It's kind of scary, isn't it? "In the last couple of years, the British have released a ton of information, but has anybody ever seen what their conclusions were or heard anything about Bentwaters officially? When the documents were released, the timeframe when I was involved in the incident is missing -- it's gone missing. Nothing else is missing," he said. Halt added that he's never been harassed over the reports he made about the Bentwaters UFO incidents. "Probably for a couple of good reasons. Number one, my rank and some of the jobs I've held, but also very early on, I sat down and made a very detailed tape and made several copies of everything I know about it and they're secluded away. Maybe I'm paranoid. I don't know, but I think it was time well spent when I made the tapes." CONTINUE READING: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/ufo-secrets-turn-out-to-be-strong-opinions_n_1907492.html
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Post by skywalker on Sept 25, 2012 20:44:46 GMT -6
So what was the big Earth-shattering secrets that they were supposedly going to unveil? All I read was that some dude who used to work for the government said that UFOs are real and there is a government cover-up...which is what all of us "nut-cases" and "flakes" and "loony tunes" have been saying for years. They have been calling us names and making sarcastic comments about UFO believers for decades and now some "respectable" panel full of government people who have been lying their rearends off about UFOs all of these years comes out and admits that what we have been saying for decades is true and what...we are supposed to fall down on our knees and sing "Hallelujah" and stuff? I have a really radical question...if we have been right all along about what we have been saying, how exactly does that make us the crazy people? I know I probably shouldn't be criticizing these people so much since they are causing some people to finally take a serious look at the UFO phenomenon, but I'm sick with a cold right now and I'm not in a very good mood and this really annoys the heck out of me.
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Post by auntym on Sept 27, 2012 11:21:55 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13283/a-muffled-bang-but-no-harm-done/De Void
A muffled bang, but no harm done[/color] Wednesday, September 26, 2012 by Billy Cox Like a lot of others who follow The Great Taboo, Allan Palmer had high hopes for Saturday night’s UFO panel discussion at the National Atomic Testing Museum in Las Vegas. After all, one of his five guests, former Blue Book officer Bill Coleman, promised a “blockbuster” revelation. What the retired Air Force colonel delivered was a riveting but long-publicized account of his attempts to chase a flying disc in 1955. But just as it appeared Coleman was ready to drop a bomb, the 89-year-old WWII veteran balked. “I was absolutely certain he wanted to say something very important,” says Palmer, the Museum’s executive director. “But he decided at the last minute not to pull the trigger. “He seems to be slightly troubled with that. There seems to be an inner tension with a duty not to violate a government trust. It’s a source of conflict with all of us,” adds the retired Navy officer. Back in Indian Harbour Beach, Coleman admits he “pulled my punch.” Reason? “I was not challenged by the audience.” Meaning? “It was the usual crowd — people wanting to talk to me about what they experienced, about how they found little pieces of metal in their chest and nose and crap like that. “Rest assured, I met a lot of fine people there, particularly the ones who organized it. I just wanted to talk to people who would be able to comprehend what I was saying. But it was more like the people in the audience wanted me to listen to them,” says the USAF’s former chief PIO. So I just said to hell with it, maybe I’ll take it to the grave.” Well, goodbye to all that. But judging from the scant media reflections on the event, Palmer and the Museum did themselves no harm Saturday night. The panelists had all the right credentials, and although they may not have raised the discussion bar, it was a smart idea in a mainstream forum, which is exactly what this field needs. And there was also healthy tension between former Army colonel John Alexander, whose book UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities argues the phenomenon is real, but the military isn’t hiding anything, and Charles Halt. Halt is a key character in the alleged 1980 UFO incursion near an air base in the UK. The retired lieutenant colonel directly challenged Alexander’s position by declaring a clandestine government agency was keeping UFO data in lockdown. But as Palmer pointed out, Halt failed to name names. “Maybe he’s right, maybe that’s the case,” Palmer tells De Void. “But if you’re going to make that case, you should be able to produce the evidence for it.” CONTINUE READING: devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13283/a-muffled-bang-but-no-harm-done/ THE NATIONAL ATOMIC TESTING MUSEUM: www.nationalatomictestingmuseum.org/
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Post by auntym on Sept 27, 2012 14:21:02 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Sept 27, 2012 22:00:25 GMT -6
Back in Indian Harbour Beach, Coleman admits he “pulled my punch.” Reason? “I was not challenged by the audience.” Meaning? “It was the usual crowd — people wanting to talk to me about what they experienced, about how they found little pieces of metal in their chest and nose and crap like that. “Rest assured, I met a lot of fine people there, particularly the ones who organized it. I just wanted to talk to people who would be able to comprehend what I was saying. But it was more like the people in the audience wanted me to listen to them,” says the USAF’s former chief PIO. So I just said to hell with it, maybe I’ll take it to the grave.” So the guy was miffed because nobody in the audience was spellbound by what he had to say...so he was upset that instead of listening to him people wanted him to listen to them instead...well welcome to the real world! This is exactly what UFO witnesses have been having to put up with for decades. The so-called "experts" refuse to listen to what anybody has to say. And now one of those so-called "experts" comes forward with his own story to share and is upset that nobody will listen to him? Now he knows how everybody else feels. This still ticks me off big-time. The reason that we UFO witnesses believe in UFOs is because of our experiences. The reason these military people on that panel believe in UFOs is because of their experiences. The only difference between us and them is that we have always been honest about our experiences whereas they have lied about them and covered them up, and in the process of covering them up they have tried very hard to make us look like fools and nutcases. So now here they are years later deciding that they finally want to tell the truth about what they experienced and they get upset because us "nuts" won't listen to them? Why should they have more credibility than we do when they are the ones who have been lying all of this time? At least we are honest about what we experienced. Even after having to put up with all of the "tinfoil" insults and the rest of that crap we are still honest about what happened. They are the ones who haven't been. @%#*# I'm going to go smash something!
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