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Post by lois on Jul 12, 2011 21:33:46 GMT -6
I had forgot all about this encounter.. It is one that has always stood out among the top encounters as far as I'm concern.. His story holds more information about one type of visitor here to our planet.. than most.. I believe him.. www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case659.htm
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Post by lois on Jul 12, 2011 21:37:07 GMT -6
Love that control panel.. looks a lot like or earthly computers.. Don't you think?
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Post by auntym on Jul 12, 2011 21:41:44 GMT -6
thanks lois, i'm going to put this on twitter.... great site....
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Post by lois on Jul 12, 2011 22:27:59 GMT -6
Auntym.. Great!!.. I once read all the cases on UFO Evidencs. it took quite awhile. I like the layout on that site and the way the cases are presented. Cross referrences is what I lke.. Easy to follow.. I remember one case that was very interesting but could not find it again..That case had aliens on the ground with silver suits and helmets also. It was a spanish speaking country and I believe it took place in the 50s..The alien leaves the spaceship by a ladder.
Steve does this sound familiar to you?
I will post it here on this thread if I find it..
Lois
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Post by lois on Jul 12, 2011 22:47:31 GMT -6
I don't feel strange about putting my four year old encounter on here in 1947.. Just read all the reports of young children among this list who witness humanoids that summer like I did.. www.ufoinfo.com/humanoid/humanoid1947.shtml
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Post by lois on Jul 12, 2011 22:52:21 GMT -6
I bet they all continued to see ufos the rest of their life.. It seemed the aliens were very interested in contacting children early on more than they do today.. Why? Guess they had to start with someone they could tag and watch grow, one way to understand ones life here on earth..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 9:32:46 GMT -6
I believe he had an encounter (I had a red welt on my neck also) but it's ruined his life. He lost his job his wife left him and someone dynamited his car. He was one of the ones investigated by the Condon Comission: ufoevidence.org/topics/CondonReport.htm It didn't work too well in his favor that he claimed they were based on Venus. Venus is a pretty unfriendly planet: space.about.com/od/venus/a/Venus.htm"The commission's conclusion was "Evaluation of psychological assessment tests, the lack of any evidence, and interviews with the patrolman, left project staff with no confidence that the trooper’s reported UFO experience was physically real." Sprinkle thought Schirmer believed what he was saying and was not consciously inventing the story. It is widely believed that the events described by Schirmer were in fact the result of sleep paralysis. Schirmer described the aliens he encountered as reptilian beings or reptoids. When Sprinkle asked Schirmer if he was in fact probed by the reptoids, he confirmed that he was anally probed. Following a full colonoscopy, no probe was found. A second study, however, proved to be inconclusive. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schirmer_AbductionSchirmer's Personal Problems: When Schirmer returned to his duties in Ashland, Police Chief Wlaskin resigned, and Shirmer was appointed as new chief. But because of ridicule from the citizens, and the UFO experience, he was not able to rightfully perform his duties, and resigned two months later. Someone had thrown dynamite into his patrol car, and his wife left him during this time. Regressive Hypnosis: Looking for relief from his psychological problems, he would undergo more regressive hypnosis in June, 1968. Hypnotist Loring G. Williams conducted the sessions, which would reveal many more details of his encounter with the UFO. There would be two books written about his experiences, "Gods, Demons, and Space Chariots" and "Gods and Devils from Outer Space" by Eric Norman. It is very difficult to ascertain whether or not Schirmer's experience was real or imaginary. ufos.about.com/od/aliensalienabduction/p/schirmer.htm
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Post by paulette on Jul 13, 2011 10:07:34 GMT -6
Regarding Schirmer's alien with a winged serpent ensignia: The Mayans had as one of their gods Quetzalcoatl (spelling may be wrong). It is a winged serpent. It also represents the Morning Star, Venus. The Mayans and Aztecs welcomed the Spaniards because they had met interesting white strangers before who promised to return. The Spaniards definitely did not play the part of helpful wise men - within one hundred years the Mexican indians were largely dead and their agricultural waterways and the canal system in Mexico city was full of garbage. The Spanish Catholic church discouraged bathing (as did the missionary Protestants in Hawaii) which meant that epidemics of European diseases ran rampant through the survivors.
I doubt that a police office in (I forget where) would know about the winged serpent in Mexico.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 12:51:03 GMT -6
I would agree with that..it might have something to do also with the 'base' on Venus. I just feel sorry for the man that he lost so much because of something beyond his control
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 14:00:01 GMT -6
I would agree with that..it might have something to do also with the 'base' on Venus. I just feel sorry for the man that he lost so much because of something beyond his control Me too.
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Post by lois on Jul 13, 2011 15:26:16 GMT -6
He was so young, had not had a chance to live normally. I agree Jo
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Post by skywalker on Jul 13, 2011 15:39:02 GMT -6
I don't think that any of us have had a chance to live normally because of what we have experienced. We try to but it is never the same as it would have been.
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Post by paulette on Jul 13, 2011 15:45:01 GMT -6
Normally is what happens most often (the norm). For us here, this is our normal. I always felt different (long before experiments with consciousness alterations) so I have no idea whether things that might have happened to me as a child (fractured bits of memories) changed me profoundly. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 17:11:31 GMT -6
So when we say 'they haven't inflicted harm'...it depends on the perspective of harm. It's one of those darned 'genie' things. Once you've let the genie out of the bottle it's hard to stuff it back in. Some of us are more aware of a 'broader' scope of life..you can't go backwards and pretend it's not there when you know it is. A door opened and we glimpsed something we don't understand but we know that beyond that door is something else. Some people are envious of that..some are afraid of that..I'm just angry that once introduced to the idea we can't go any further with it as the next logical step. I feel that way about the spiritual glimpses I've had. I can't go backward and pretend I never experienced what I have..I need more..and I feel like a horse tugging at the bit to run while someone or something holds me back. There's nothing to envy in being up against a wall
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Post by lois on Jul 13, 2011 23:30:57 GMT -6
That's the way I've felt all my life. You think I would know when to leave it alone.. Something about seeing a ufo, there is no erasing it... I do most of my daytime hours but at night it enters my thoughts more.
Maybe it is because I come here to the forum ;D
If they erased four hours of memory why leave the ten minutes I can remember?
I could of just seen the fireball.. that would of been a good time to take my memory and I would of said . this meteor night I really seen a big one ;D ;D
I also could of let the four year old encounter a dream..but even before the encounter of 72, I never forgot what I seen in 47 as I wondered "was it really a dream?" My Mother put that idea into my mind..
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Post by lois on Jul 13, 2011 23:37:17 GMT -6
Why do they do this? That is the question..What ever the ending is, would it make a difference if some people knew a few things in advance. Like a lot of witnesses state, when contact comes they feel they will have job to do.. I never felt that way. Has anyone else?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 10:21:11 GMT -6
Over the years Lois..I've come up with some 'why' ideas (of course I have LOL). 1. Either they think so differently from us that it doesn't dawn on them that encounters with them (especially forced ones) have very bad effects on us. 2. The contacts and encounters are done with exactly that purpose in mind. To stimulate thought and to leave people with a burning drive to know and understand more and to set them apart from others (leave them 'marked') for purposes that are a part of their own agenda. Most of the abductions generated a lot of fear. Possibly more for those of us who were younger but in every report there is that horrible belly dropping fear of the unknown. Say you're out fishing ..having a great time communing with the world around you and all the sudden a submarine surfaces in your lake. Your brain is moving to process a lot of information you're not even aware of. How did a sub get in a land locked lake? It must be connected by some tunnel..who is in the sub and why are they here and do they mean to hurt me or kidnap me.. On the surface you are going OMG..or dayyyum..or wtf? but inside you're brain is much harder at work. These things do that to our minds at a much more incredible level and later..the processing starts filtering into your more conscious mind. Is there a single day you don't think about them? Maybe that's done with purpose and just maybe we won't be quite as stunned with a larger show. Because of my spiritual happenings and the abduction & encounter as a child..I wouldn't be 'shocked' at much of anything and maybe that..could give a bit of an edge ..maybe to help soothe others? Maybe just to give pause and say wait...don't shoot..yet. We don't hold the memory of pain or fear as intensely as we do some others. We remember something hurt (childbirth..broken legs) but we don't hold the exact memory of it..after that fades a bit..curiosity..and that driving need to understand seem to nail us all. It's why we're here. And I'll be willing to bet..everyone who stays here..has had an encounter that they may not remember...betcha Then there is that 'psychic' bent we seem to have..or instinct..or premonition..how ever you want to label it. Lois you feel 'quakes' and other things..Sky 'sees' things..I 'see' and feel things..I think most of us here do..we're 'sensitive' in some way. Either because of 'them' meddling or they meddled because of it. All that I can figure are that those who are supposed to believe..do and that we will understand it..when we are meant to.
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Post by lois on Jul 14, 2011 18:12:30 GMT -6
If they dont make contact, then we will never know or either will the abductees who claim they have a jobe to do. I hope you are right that we will understand it while we are here still.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 14, 2011 20:39:03 GMT -6
If they erased four hours of memory why leave the ten minutes I can remember? I've been wondering about that also. Why would they let me remember being picked up by a beam of light but nothing after that? That doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 21:36:55 GMT -6
If they erased four hours of memory why leave the ten minutes I can remember? I've been wondering about that also. Why would they let me remember being picked up by a beam of light but nothing after that? That doesn't make any sense. Same here. Why do I remember them in the living room, but I don't remember them moving me back to bed...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 23:03:17 GMT -6
They obviously want it to be this clouded..want it to be a struggle to remember and they also have to want it to be uncertain. They control the circumstances and it would be just as easy to contact everyone at once and remove all doubt but they don't. I also wouldn't expect answers that make much sense to us or that they will ever think they owe us an explanation. We serve a purpose. I would love some input actually. How many of you actually think that the earth is important enough to have over a hundred 'types' of aliens visiting us? Alien dude standing on a street corner passing out tour maps to visiting aliens? Something..makes so little sense as to be nuts.
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Post by lois on Jul 14, 2011 23:49:14 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 2:14:35 GMT -6
Yes Lois, that is a beautiful view... but we evolved here on this planet. We live here. We are used to all of those colors and find them to be beautiful. What if aliens do not see colors as we do? What if their "visible color spectrum" differs greatly from ours? For all we know, they could "see" ultraviolet and infrared colors. Mars might look prettier to them than Earth does IMO. ~shrug~ Image from the website Suite101.com: www.suite101.com/
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Post by paulette on Jul 15, 2011 8:21:34 GMT -6
Found the website - nothing about wavelength that I could find. Please provide more clues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 9:25:06 GMT -6
Oh my.... space is filled to the brim with so much beauty..the pictures the hubble sends back are amazing. We're so tiny compared to much that is there. What would a planet look like who's sun was in a different spectrum (like you're saying Lorelei)..it would change the tint of the planet wouldn't it? The milky way alone is billions of stars..and yet all of these races find earth? I have trouble seeing that. Logically there would need to be a reason for the interest and I don't think it's the beauty of the planet. Others have to be breathtaking with multiple moons and un-smogged atmospheres, pure oceans and rivers (which we no longer have). We may be the descendants of a penal colony (quarantined one) or the descendants of people seeded here from disasters elsewhere. Of the giga billions of planets in the galaxy they all find earth by accident..is just too much of a reach for me.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 15, 2011 10:09:31 GMT -6
Maybe the reason they come here is because there is life here. Lots of it. I would think that would be more exciting than just looking at a barren rock.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 10:44:03 GMT -6
Or..maybe there are dimensional doorways that don't require long space flight and we're as easy to get to as opening a portal and flying through a wormhole. Science now estimates billions of earth-type planets and conceivably they could all be full of life. I keep thinking the answers are much closer to home and we just have a need to complicate it LOL.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 15, 2011 21:44:34 GMT -6
Possible. Next time I get zapped I'll ask them where they are from and how they got here.
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Post by lois on Jul 16, 2011 0:00:38 GMT -6
I was thinking of lifeforms that had to leave their planet as a result of destruction.. That would mean they made mistakes if self destruction.. I believe many our out there with no planet called home. I may be wrong, but this enters my thoughts a lot.. Of course all the beautiful ones would be taken as life probably would exist on it..
Lorelei.. if they came from a rock like planet, they won't find one here. Not at the present anyway.
I don't think that many have found us... I read a book years ago. it had so many Aliens people had witnessed down through the years. but only once did they make a stop here. I mean never seen again.
One skeptic was trying to state.. these one timers are all fake, someone had made up into a hoax..
Like your replies, we are not so hot!! as many may be so much more flouriest with things we could not imagine..
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Post by skywalker on Jul 16, 2011 6:32:11 GMT -6
I think that a lot of the reports of different types of aliens are fakes also. If there were over a hundred different kinds showing up just in the past fifty years than that would mean that millions of them have showed up over the past millions of years. Unless something caused them all to come here all at once for some reason. I suppose anything is possible.
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