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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2011 3:02:52 GMT -6
Steve, this is what I thought also.. Hopefully on both sides.. Level of nuclear before aliens would intervene.. yes that is my statement to those who have replied on all three forums.. quote.. They never stopped a war before! I seem to dwell on everything the alien does and why? I had a thread on the other forums .. Titled.. Alien Mind.. Now a book has been written with the same title. I have not read it yet.. has aniyone else? I have read most of 'Alien Mind'. Met it's author George Lobuono too. Had a long talk and dinner with him. He is available as a consultant with our little abduction research group. The book is a mind full. As such, I sometimes read it to force myself to sleep. The book is not boring, just rather deeply engaging with many varied issues. It seems to have this strange hypnotic effect putting me to sleep - like a visual version of a warm glass of milk. Do a search Lois, the book can be read on-line..for free. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2011 3:08:52 GMT -6
Steve, this is what I thought also.. Hopefully on both sides.. Level of nuclear before aliens would intervene.. yes that is my statement to those who have replied on all three forums.. quote.. They never stopped a war before! I seem to dwell on everything the alien does and why? I had a thread on the other forums .. Titled.. Alien Mind.. Now a book has been written with the same title. I have not read it yet.. has aniyone else? I have read most of 'Alien Mind'. Met it's author George Lobuono too. Had a long talk and dinner with him. He is available as a consultant with our little abduction research group. The book is a mind full. As such, I sometimes read it to force myself to sleep. The book is not boring, just rather deeply engaging with many varied issues. It seems to have this strange hypnotic effect putting me to sleep - like a visual version of a warm glass of milk. Do a search Lois, the book can be read on-line..for free. Steve It IS a very dense read. I didn't even make it through the first chapter. It's very involved and complicated... but the way the author describes the alien telepathy is amazingly similar to what I experienced...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2011 10:54:11 GMT -6
He isn't the most riveting of writers..but he does make a point of making his point (if you get my drift). If you met him..I bet you'd find a man who wears his beliefs like a suit of clothes..very confidently and I can see him being very willing to share what he believes. Everyone who's interested in the subject seems to eventually form an hypothesis or their own theory. Given the scant information we have (eye witness reports from abductees and encounters) I guess it can only be how you put that information to work in your mind and the reality is probably a bit of all of them.. I think he'd be interesting to listen to more than as a writer IMO
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Post by lois on Aug 1, 2011 15:05:01 GMT -6
I never thought a alien's mind was so complexed. I believe it to be very similiar to ours. They have had a lot more time to study it. They knew before even making conact, if we were compatible.. That tells you one thing about their mind or better yet ours
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Post by lois on Aug 1, 2011 15:07:42 GMT -6
I don't know George.. how did he become interested in the subject?
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Post by Steve on Aug 1, 2011 20:51:18 GMT -6
He isn't the most riveting of writers..but he does make a point of making his point (if you get my drift). If you met him..I bet you'd find a man who wears his beliefs like a suit of clothes..very confidently and I can see him being very willing to share what he believes. Everyone who's interested in the subject seems to eventually form an hypothesis or their own theory. Given the scant information we have (eye witness reports from abductees and encounters) I guess it can only be how you put that information to work in your mind and the reality is probably a bit of all of them.. I think he'd be interesting to listen to more than as a writer IMO Hi Jo. I think you are quite right. He is not the most riveting writer, less dramatic, it just pours out. When I listened to him, he talks pretty much like he writes. He's is a good listener, considers your question thoughtfully, but the answer you may get in return maybe more complex than you would have perhaps expected. From your comment above Jo....my impression of George is he actually does not necessarily wear his 'beliefs' out there like a suit of clothes. Not at all. He will discuss freely with you about what he writes once he gets a sense you won't be blown away by it. He is initially at first quite unassuming . He would, I think blend into a crowd quite easily. Interesting fellow. He is married, two children. Devoted to them. Very protective of his children. I think I remember once writing here he admitted keeping a baseball bat beside his bed, if aliens ever dropped in. Would he be able to stop an abduction of his children? He is not too sure he admits, he would try at least. Interesting he thinks that way after what he seems to know about them. He teaches his wife and children that if they ever met an alien, to treat them as one would any stranger. Non hostility, but with some caution. Much of his communication with aliens (many varied kinds of aliens) he outlines in his book seems to be not so much by channeling, but what he characterizes as 'Remote Sensing'. Self hypnosis? I would not frame him ever necessarily as a 'contactee'. He does not share about his experiences freely, but will matter of factly once he knows where you are coming from, and are interested in the same paradigm. 'Unassuming' at first keeps coming up. I am working with my friend hypnotherapist, and we have been practicing 'remote sensing' too. She hypnotizes me over the phone. She sensed in me something I do not see in me, and we have been investigating this. Mary takes me deep into a hypnotic state.... asks questions through me of an entity that seems to come into some kind of contact with us. Each time, more deeply. The first session, only about 30%. We have had several fascinating sessions. I am not quite prepared to share in detail yet. It seems quite difficult to accept, been fun too. In working these sessions, Mary's, emphasis is to simply describe, never to analyze (which I often do). It seems this contact to be a form of entity - what George in his book calls a 'hyper-advanced alien' (Hyperversals). More advanced and apparently ethical than the grays called 'Verdants', whatever is the case. There is a vague image of this entity in my mind, but the scene is dark and indistinct, nothing ever frightening. What does it all mean? From a place inside my own mind, or something more? What intrigues me is Mary will ask me questions she knows I would not know the answer to, and has been impressed there is someone else present doing the conversation. These sessions continue. Various question posed....How they travel, does dark matter permeate through the membranes of other universes... why do verdants abduct humans, why are they here, do they eat nutrients?....where from....the entity's name.... The answers are recorded, and are often never simple answers. This entity described traveling through space both in a physical means, but often too in a virtual way as well. Interestingly, experiencers have described balls of light that seemed to possess something living too. In these sessions, I will describe them as 'we'. The entity also will describe about me, making comments about me in the third person. At the end of the last session, Mary mindful not to tire us. After a whole hour and a half, there was a sense of sadness between the three of us, but we seem to reconnect easily. I know...bizarre...
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Post by lois on Aug 1, 2011 20:56:36 GMT -6
Thanks Steve . I recognize this man
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Post by lois on Aug 9, 2011 11:25:56 GMT -6
I like that I don't think I would care to much if I had to look at a purple sky all the time though..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 12:43:39 GMT -6
Only because you've been raised with a blue one Lois ;D I am sure that there are differences on many many planets in shades and textures
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Aug 21, 2011 9:19:06 GMT -6
*All posts about Steve's hypnosis sessions were moved to a new thread called Steve's Hypnosis Sessions.*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 9:28:27 GMT -6
cool
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Post by satansrini on Aug 21, 2011 12:30:34 GMT -6
I have put this on three forum in the past. I will do so here since I cannot find the thread of it on Edge Of Reality.. When two bases were shut down in the sixties, I began to ask myself this question.. The aliens always show up and are very interested. What would be the purpose for them to shut down these sites making sure we knew it was by their hands? They must be proving to us they can do it.. First thought I had was .. Just Try It.. I personally think they don't care. Annihilation w.r.t us means collateral damage and human loss. We don't even worry about how many animals or birds die in the process. In the best case, an ET race will be concerned about the natural resources here - like metals and minerals - most of which will still be available to them and more easily (since we won't be around to claim ownership). I think we attribute unnecessary and copious amounts of altruism with aliens. In other words, 'alien benevolence' imho is highly overrated. If ETs came here and really turned off the missiles or nuclear war-heads or whatever, it could have been in self-protection. An advanced civilization like that will probably build crafts which detect threats and disable such threats automatically. That could be the case rather than Spock thinking "ohh.. we can't let the Russians & Americans fight.. its too dangerous for them and Earth and they don't know it"!!! Regards, Srinivas
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Post by lois on Aug 21, 2011 12:42:49 GMT -6
I have put this on three forum in the past. I will do so here since I cannot find the thread of it on Edge Of Reality.. When two bases were shut down in the sixties, I began to ask myself this question.. The aliens always show up and are very interested. What would be the purpose for them to shut down these sites making sure we knew it was by their hands? They must be proving to us they can do it.. First thought I had was .. Just Try It.. [/quot If ETs came here and really turned off the missiles or nuclear war-heads or whatever, it could have been in self-protection. An advanced civilization like that will probably build crafts which detect threats and disable such threats automatically. That could be the case rather than Spock thinking "ohh.. we can't let the Russians & Americans fight.. its too dangerous for them and Earth and they don't know it"!!! Regards, Srinivas Sirnivas.. I never thought of it that way.. Self protection. thank you
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Post by satansrini on Aug 21, 2011 13:01:13 GMT -6
I don't know if you were making fun of me lois... But let me explain further. We can also imagine that such an advanced race might not be threatened by our relatively 'primitive' tools of aggression. However it is also true that there is a threshold and probably we are close. Atleast in terms of energy emissions if not the means to achieve such emissions. It might be harmful to them but may not be fatal. For example, if you are going in a car and a nail pierced through one of the tyres, it is not fatal to you. The tyre has a puncture and you have to fix it. It will delay your progress. If you saw the nail, you won't go over it thinking "its not going to kill me". Instead you avoid it. The ET might be doing the same thing. Disable any possible threat like radio signals, energy emissions - electronic, mechanical or otherwise, thereby making sure nothing can go wrong... Regards, Srinivas
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Post by skywalker on Aug 21, 2011 13:39:03 GMT -6
I agree, Srini. I also think that whatever they are doing is for their own protection, or maybe for the preservation of the planet as a whole rather than for our benifit. Humans are the ones causing most of the damage on the planet. If the aliens interfered at all I think it would be to stop us rather than to help us.
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Post by satansrini on Aug 21, 2011 13:44:22 GMT -6
I agree, Srini. I also think that whatever they are doing is for their own protection, or maybe for the preservation of the planet as a whole rather than for our benifit. Humans are the ones causing most of the damage on the planet. If the aliens interfered at all I think it would be to stop us rather than to help us. Yeah... i liked that concept they showed in the movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still"... I sort of thought of in the same lines - one of my thought streams.. and when I saw the movie.. i was amazed. Someone had already made a movie with thoughts similar to mine.. it was a weird feeling!! Regards, Srinivas
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 17:59:50 GMT -6
We are a menace to ourselves, only now realizing how much damage we've managed to do to the planet and many still not caring. If there are dimensions next to ours, what happens here could very well effect them too..I could see them moving to stop possible threats to themselves. We don't have any idea of what 'ripple' effects we might set off.
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Post by lois on Aug 21, 2011 22:06:00 GMT -6
I do know they got closer to us since the end of the world war. What was witness before this..camedecades apart. A sighting here and a sighting there. Our destructive toys they do not like and they should not like what we plan to do with these weapons if necessary. If not for this how many ships would of been witness by now.
I'd still be going around thinking something was wrong with my mind from my teens had they not showed us so much..and my own encounter.
Yes we could cause a ripple effect Jo..
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Post by lois on Aug 21, 2011 22:15:56 GMT -6
And if so, this is why I asked the question so many times. Would they shut our missiles down if it ever came to us destroying ourselves??
This is only one tiny piece of the puzzle when it comes to why they are here.
What does abduction have to do with this?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 23:02:29 GMT -6
I think Lois..they would shut them down if it would impact their worlds or other areas of space. If worlds exist next to ours(as string theory suggests), nuclear explosions on our world could cause problems on theirs. So they wouldn't be out to save us..but to keep us from damaging them. And quite possibly they monitor us because of this. I think the abductions are from a totally different source.
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Post by orionpath on Aug 22, 2011 7:31:22 GMT -6
With multiple agendas, I think there would be conflicts of interests. Problems that would need to be solved before disclosure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 11:14:13 GMT -6
This is just a personal feeling Orion but I don't think there will ever be a 'disclosure' from our government. I think that when it suits 'their' agenda, whoever it is visiting from where ever they're visiting from will make it clear that they're here and why..but only if it suits their plans. At that point..maybe our government will chime in with..'oh yeah we knew about it but didn't want to burden you with it'..or 'we knew but they said they'd take away all our money if we told'. Maybe that last sounds a bit more like our government We're either perceived as a threat of some kind or a project in progress but I don't think our needs or feelings are that important to them. I know that a LOT of people have hopes that they want to help us and befriend us but I think if they wanted that...it would have been done long long ago. I truly think they are waiting for something but a lot of us earth types have those feelings of 'waiting' on something too..maybe it's the same thing
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