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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 20:27:48 GMT -6
Just a few days ago I mentioned observing a flock of Geese at an amazingly high altitude. Last night I was observing the Crab nebula which is a supernova remnant in the constellation of Taurus and here came what I think may have been another flock,,,maybe ? They were again at about the same altitude which is way,way up there.
It wasn't in the same formation as the others and like the other night, I couldn't hear them because of their distance. This time what I saw resembled something similar to a 747 if the light was only hitting one side. I ruled out a jet because their wasn't any lights and it wasn't quite right in overall appearance to one nor was the velocity. I'm almost certain they were Geese but I can't honestly confirm it 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 7:34:40 GMT -6
Ok, when I saw my recent "flock of geese", it was with the naked eye. The birds were in formation, with a couple of stragglers having to keep up to keep the "V" just perfect ;D. I have very good eye sight but I couldn't imagine why the birds were flying so high. You're talking about looking with a 'scope? Whoa! Please explain more! *side note: we usually have large geese roaming on our playground at school at all times of the year. We come outside, chase them off, and have the resulting "scratch" (geese poop) everywhere. NONE, so far this year. Also seeing very little deer poop. I'm thinking that the difference this year is how bad the grass looked at the start of the year. It was so burnt up that it hurt to walk through it with sandals on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 10:36:40 GMT -6
You're talking about looking with a 'scope? Whoa! Please explain more! Yeah, the 1st night I had it set at 24x and the night before last I had a 2x barlow in with the same eyepiece which put it at 48x . This is why I find that altitude to be so interesting but I guess it's possible. The rate the formation was moving plus they were going South both times is what clues me in to thinking they were Geese even more. I'll most likely be observing again throughout tonight if the weather and atmospheric conditions are good, possibly this weekend also. I have a lot of galaxies to hunt down. Geese too. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 17:01:43 GMT -6
Kelly and I just got back from a family gathering on my side. Out of the blue a certain family member opened up and spoke about a sighting that he and his wife just had the other night. They witnessed something fly across the sky and then just stop and proceed again. Then, they saw another do the same thing. According to them and another family member there were other witnesses because it had made the local news but I wasn't aware of this. They have had sightings before but wish to remain anonymous because of certain reasons which I can understand.
Then, on the way home, another family member gets into another discussion and starts opening up to me about things pertaining to the paranormal because I disclosed to my family after the former sighting discussion that I do quite a bit of research into this stuff. She told Kelly and I that she had witnessed an angel out at her other house in the country and when she tried to ask it a question it disappeared. I had no idea about any of this stuff.
Most of my family are Christians and business owners and pillars in our community. I use to own a business also before joining the Union. It is for these reasons and others why they would rather not disclose any further. Again,,, I can't blame them. I think it is about time that we ( my family ) all sit down and start opening up and discussing this stuff. It seemed others were wanting to open up about stuff but were hesitant.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 9, 2012 18:27:43 GMT -6
They are welcome to post it here if they want to. We won't reveal there true identity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 1:40:39 GMT -6
They are welcome to post it here if they want to. We won't reveal there true identity. Some of them wont even open up a facebook account ;D Another thing which was disclosed today was that when one of my family members witnessed a ufo when I was young other family members went out to check out the location to see what it may have been the next day and found 3 burn marks out in the middle of no mans land,,,yeah. I remember the one family member having the sighting though I was very young. She wouldn't lie about anything like this if it meant saving her life. She's a very honest woman. I somewhat remember the location or at least close to. We were traveling down a long gravel road at night when she witnessed it. I recall the look on her face and then her talking about it.
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Post by lois on Dec 17, 2012 16:21:08 GMT -6
Cliff . This sound like our family. One will say some thing then drop it and never mention it again. I've tired to piece it all together from bits and pieces. I discuss a few thing with them one at a time .. Then I bring it up what they had told me in the past when many of us were together Well they will denied it to the others. My youngest brother talk on end about his experiences . So it was a two party share . My Mother told me things that a lot of my brothers and sisters told her.. years ago. But they deny it also. I tell all .. We could of shared in some of these events if we could talk about it. Like the time I was in high school one night doing homework I heard my younger sister screaming. "Get out .. Get out. When I got to her bedroom she was hysterical .. I could see all the cushions and pillows and even a lamp piled up against one wall where she claimed to have seen a entity. She had been throwing these articles at the ghost whatever. She did say him.. I do remember that. She would not quit screaming at the wall. Saying did you see him? I seen nothing. Today she says she does not remember anything about it. She should as my parents drove her to the hospital as they could not com her down... I will never know what appeared to her. She was around 12 years old like many in the family were when they had similar experiences . Hope you and your family can discuss this in serious manner.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 21:46:00 GMT -6
Cliff . This sound like our family. One will say some thing then drop it and never mention it again. I've tired to piece it all together from bits and pieces. I discuss a few thing with them one at a time .. Then I bring it up what they had told me in the past when many of us were together Well they will denied it to the others. My youngest brother talk on end about his experiences . So it was a two party share . My Mother told me things that a lot of my brothers and sisters told her.. years ago. But they deny it also. I tell all .. We could of shared in some of these events if we could talk about it. Like the time I was in high school one night doing homework I heard my younger sister screaming. "Get out .. Get out. When I got to her bedroom she was hysterical .. I could see all the cushions and pillows and even a lamp piled up against one wall where she claimed to have seen a entity. She had been throwing these articles at the ghost whatever. She did say him.. I do remember that. She would not quit screaming at the wall. Saying did you see him? I seen nothing. Today she says she does not remember anything about it. She should as my parents drove her to the hospital as they could not com her down... I will never know what appeared to her. She was around 12 years old like many in the family were when they had similar experiences . Hope you and your family can discuss this in serious manner. I just don't know Lois. I think sometimes people cannot accept things that don't fit with reality so they go into denial or just simply block or shut things out so that they don't have to deal with it or because they don't know how to. I guess there are many reasons why a lot of things don't get disclosed or discussed. The entities themselves can make us forget , I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 21:39:02 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Jan 2, 2013 23:59:51 GMT -6
Cliff I still have this on VHS tape. From the early 90s. It tells it like it really is . Why me and what for?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 1:29:27 GMT -6
I should have known better than to watch this video before bedtime when everyone else is asleep... Ugh... ~hides under Cliff's bed~
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 12:44:11 GMT -6
Cliff I still have this on VHS tape. From the early 90s. It tells it like it really is . Why me and what for? That's what I want to know. I found too many similarities with the ones I saw, almost exactly the same except for their height and a couple other things. That's why I posted this. Lorelei: Sorry. While showing Kelly this video last night I had chills running up and down my arms. I think she needs to know what they look like,,,just in case..........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 13:02:15 GMT -6
Those fingers man... they creeped me out... It's OK Cliff. I couldn't watch most of it... had to turn away and close my eyes and listen to what he was saying... it made me feel sick and dizzy...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 13:13:08 GMT -6
Those fingers man... they creeped me out... It's OK Cliff. I couldn't watch most of it... had to turn away and close my eyes and listen to what he was saying... it made me feel sick and dizzy... Did you notice there were 4 fingers and how close to the real thing that they were ? Yes,,,very freaky for sure !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 13:37:04 GMT -6
Those fingers man... they creeped me out... It's OK Cliff. I couldn't watch most of it... had to turn away and close my eyes and listen to what he was saying... it made me feel sick and dizzy... Did you notice there were 4 fingers and how close to the real thing that they were ? Yes,,,very freaky for sure ! I don't remember how many fingers they had because when I saw their hands the fingers were curled up and far away from me... but they DO look right... The faces aren't exactly right- not sure about the eye shape and size but those fingers man are creeping me out!! He said when he was five he saw a "Tall Man" with a metal rod in his hand that had light coming out of it... The ones I saw were tall too... at least that's how I remember perceiving them...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 13:38:06 GMT -6
I just watched the video again in the daylight hours... it's not so bad watching it during the day time... still creeps me out though I have visible goosebumps on my arms...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 19:29:52 GMT -6
Just watched it (the video).
And like you guys said on another thread, those hands look insectoid.
Very creepy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 21:42:34 GMT -6
Just watched it (the video). And like you guys said on another thread, those hands look insectoid. Very creepy. Insects don't have hands...
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Post by skywalker on Jan 3, 2013 22:59:46 GMT -6
If they did that's probably how they would look.
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 4, 2013 0:22:07 GMT -6
Well there is much about this that is similar to my family's experiences. Thought I wasn't going to be able to finish watching it, but muddled through....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 7:30:55 GMT -6
Thanks Sky; that is what I meant ;D. Spindley looking, like spider's legs. Thin, but strong. I'm kinda amazed at how many of us hate spiders. That is one creature that my first instinct is to just "kill it", immediately on sight (though I don't do this anymore ). I just thought of frogs "hands". They have that little "ball" on the end? But no, its not reminding me of a frog. (trying to keep smilin' though I'm getting "triggers")
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 6:14:49 GMT -6
Earlier tonight 3 of us saw something very strange ! We were heading to Springfield when out of nowhere a large white object flew right over the car. We thought it was going to hit us. I was in the backseat and we saw it come from the front left and then go right over the car and then I immediately turned my head to the right over my shoulder to try and figure out what it was as it flew over. Without having time to think of words to say we all shouted the same thing which I will not repeat. We all tried to come up with an explanation but couldn't. If it were a plane or drone why would it be flying so low right above a highway , especially when visibility was poor because of a low lying cloud deck which was the leftover remnants of an ice storm ? We didn't hear anything and couldn't get a real good look at it because it was so quick and was mostly hidden in the clouds right above the car. There was a bluff to the right that I noticed as I turned my head so that tells me it had to be at least twenty feet above the ground but it looked like it was going to make impact the way we saw it,,,,,scary ! Some of the people Kelly and I know are realizing that unexplainable things are happening around me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Kelly wasn't with us but she wanted to add this : P.S. - This is Kelly. I'm a skeptic but my girlfriend and her husband seen it too and could not explain what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 10:33:22 GMT -6
I know I would have been ducking my head in the car, as if that would make the roof of the car duck too! ;D Glad you are "ok", emotionally and all . I really feel like that whole area, from South Kansas City down to the lakes, is a "hot spot". Plenty of places yet for "things" to hide. Kelly is really hanging on to her skepticism, as best she can, still? (I don't blame her).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 14:10:08 GMT -6
What's even more strange is that while we were on our way up there I sensed something and was looking around in the sky but it was cloudy so I figured if something was up there I probably wouldn't see it.
The driver described it as being the size of a Pterodactyl. His wife who was in the front passenger seat said it was rectangular (box shaped) in appearance. We all agree that it resembled what headlights look like when hitting the fog but different because we could all tell there was an object in there.
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I agree also and so do many of the local residents who have had similar sightings.
I hope she stays that way and never has a reason not to. She has had a couple of experiences in the past 5 years we've been together and heard what other's have seen when they were around me. I don't want her to worry about this stuff but I do want her to be aware.
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Post by lois on Jan 13, 2013 20:00:02 GMT -6
Cliff . what I witnessed coming out of a storm cloud last summer was rectangular . It was sort of strange . Did not appear like a saucer at all. Did they see windows?. I called it the shape of some of our old subs. It did have windows but it also has what appeared to be a seam running vertically down the center . That was odd also. Wish I could of been there in that car.. Yes we had clouds all day too. And still today.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 13, 2013 20:03:48 GMT -6
How fast was the thing moving? Could it have been a blimp or something like that? Maybe it was flying low to avoid the clouds...but if that were true it would be in danger of hitting power lines. How big would you say the thing was? You said the driver thought it was as big as a Pterodactyl but Pterodactyls came in all different sizes from as small as a chicken to as big as a small plane. Where exactly did it happen? I'm going to keep my eyes open to see if any other reports come in from that area.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 20:47:53 GMT -6
A flying rectangle?!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 21:22:11 GMT -6
How fast was the thing moving? We were traveling about 60 m.p.h. I would estimate it to be flying at a rate coming at us at about 150 - 200 at least if not quicker. It happened very quick. J.c. replied about ducking her head if she were there but there wasn't enough time to . ;D This thing was in the clouds right above us when we saw it. We all thought it was going to collide coming from the drivers side at a 45 degree angle .The cloud deck varied. Some places the clouds were right over the road and other places had about 150 ft. visibility. Because I could make out the bluff to the right as it flew over it had to be at least 20 ft. up to clear it. It didn't appear that it was going to but evidently did. I would estimate it's size depending on it's altitude to be 25 - 50 ft. or larger maybe, I don't know. I saw it coming at us too as it was approaching but there was only about 2-3 seconds from the first time we saw it to the point it was over the car. I then looked over my right shoulder to try and get a good look but visibility was poor . I could only make out it's size somewhat depending how high it was and saw a white object which had a glow to it. I could not make out a shape but I could tell that there was something in there. It happened approximately 5 miles North of Springfield on Hwy 13. We were headed Southbound for Springfield. Thanks ! I'd like to know. I don't know if anyone else saw it or not, it's possible but there wasn't much traffic out. It was right at midnight and we had just had an ice storm come through. There are power lines like you mentioned and cell towers throughout the area. We all have been traveling this Hwy all of our lives in all kinds of road conditions but we've never experienced anything like this before anywhere. I can't see a plane or drone flying in these conditions that low but it's possible I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 21:35:20 GMT -6
Lois , we didn't see any windows. Lorelei, the driver's wife described it as a box shaped object and then went on to describe it as a rectangle with a flat bottom. I couldn't make out a shape from my vantage point in the back but could see that it had a solid look to it. Immediately after we were all like this - The couple started talking about the aliens coming to get me as they have heard about some things that I've revealed. It crossed my mind also.
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Post by lois on Jan 13, 2013 22:22:18 GMT -6
Lois , we didn't see any windows. Lorelei, the driver's wife described it as a box shaped object and then went on to describe it as a rectangle with a flat bottom. I couldn't make out a shape from my vantage point in the back but could see that it had a solid look to it. Immediately after we were all like this - The couple started talking about the aliens coming to get me as they have heard about some things that I've revealed. It crossed my mind also. What I witnessed was flat bottom also. But I seen dark squares which resembled windows. Anyone would of called it windows I'm sure. Here is that video you wanted me to put on u tube. I did not date it though as it had started the download and I did now want to stop it to find the date. it was back in the fall or summer. They are all dated in my computer as I put them on the same day I made them.
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