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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 5:46:49 GMT -6
"JC . are you saying if abducted, they returned you to your new home.. That is very strange indeed. I believe a alien knows all that is going on in a earthings life. Maybe even our future, as I believe they can time travel.. but what do it know? " Hi Lois! Sorry it took me so long to reply to this . Yes. I believe I am returned to where-ever "they" take me from. I don't recall such details like clothes put back on wrong, nothing obvious like that, but there seem to be enough circumstances in other fine details....and for whatever reason "they" are careful about my observations. IMO. Your belief that an alien knows all about our lives. This gives me pause. Let's say that a lot of my life "experiences" ARE truly spiritual, otherworldly, paranormal, whatever. Is my life being studied? By who?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 5:53:15 GMT -6
Great reference to serendipity, paulette! I challenge anyone reading this to google the word "serendipity" and check the answer on wikiped. ! Lol.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 5, 2011 9:51:30 GMT -6
From Wikipedia: Serendipity is when someone finds something that they weren't expecting to find. The word has been voted as one of the ten English words that were hardest to translate in June 2004 by a British translation company. However, due to its sociological use, the word has been exported into many other languages. In the simplest of words, it means a "happy accident" or a "pleasant surprise".I didn't have a clue what it meant...but I couldn't resist a challenge.
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Post by paulette on Oct 5, 2011 10:23:03 GMT -6
For me to change my thinking to my "quirks" are alien/human/technology related, instead of a "spiritual interface", well, this is going to take some time. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=encounters&action=display&thread=1418#ixzz1ZvKQeYVkI don't think the two have to be totally separate. First off (I am climbing up on my very underused Christian soapbox, my sole credentials being my training from 0 to about 14.) If God made the heavens and the earth - in fact created light from the void (the big bang?) then the aliens are also children of god. They may interpret their own version of god very differently or may even have set aside the idea of an available on-line for prayers god...but they probably have one. Note to self: ask Steve to ask Han. We are becoming technologically advanced (compared to say 200 years ago). Picking up a small object and talking to someone in China or even across town would have been seen as magical. Now we carry them in our pockets and talk and text everywhere we go. Yet we are still seeking (collectively) for spiritual meaning in our lives IMO. Most of my clients do not attend church and yet 95% identify as having spiritual beliefs and even those people who don't, often have a story about being comforted after someone close to them died (and the client was struggling with the concept of them just being...gone.) So in my informal polling of people, seeking is still going on. Praying too. If I was going to venture across space and time, I would want to take along the equivilant of a St. Christopher's medal. I would want to believe that there might be help out there - at very least, help to die with a light heart, accepting the next (big) step. We believe that "our" God made the earth and everything and being on it. Yet we are disrespectful about our stewardship. "Go forth and multiply and conquer the earth." might have been a bad translation or even a human addition. But why then might we be surprised when more advanced folks (technologically anyway) treat us the same way? To be studied, maybe used, maybe altered to someone's else's purposes. OH oh! Now I'm on a bigger soapbox and one that I share with my husband. If the Annunukei custom designed humans (in an earlier time) to be useful and work in the gold and uranium mines then they also designed us to have lots of babies. To replace those sick or dead workers and speed up production. Only domestic animals and prey animals have a lot of offspring. Think cats, rats, rabbits...The rest of planet goes with a replacement for the current adult. In a herd or pod or group, not all females give birth every year. The mothers of previous years are still keeping their last one alive. So maybe go forth and multiply was a command that was in SOMEONE ELSE'S best interests. Maybe humans early on (especially the one's with visitor bloodlines) got smarter than what was intended as a captive workforce and we left the garden, never to return. Or maybe the folks who have researched this and made these conclusions (they aren't mine) were just off on a tangent. But it sure is an interesting one...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -6
Paulette: That's a very good thought. My grandmother was the oldest of 13 children. You know how those rural southern farm families are... . I have cousins coming out of the woodwork all over in those parts. Johann Sebastian Bach was able to father 20 children before he died... granted he had 3 wives (two died you see so he remarried). Humans are capable of making many more babies than modern humans decide to make thanks to new contraceptives... if two parents can make 13 babies during their lifetime... that's pretty darned good if you ask me. Yes, rabbits reproduce far more rapidly, but they have much shorter lifespans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 14:31:18 GMT -6
To be honest..I am much happier keeping the alien/spiritual mind separate but that's because I love God and loathe the creatures that molested my friend and I. I couldn't love God if I thought there was a relation there or to think mankind was genetically altered by lizard people. That is just ME. The most captivating Christian I've listened to tells people to go out and experience everything..learn about wicca..learn about aliens..learn it all then make informed decisions. I've had experiences with the 'spiritual' and I have had experiences with, for lack of better words..aliens. When I die..I already know what to expect..I have those answers and I am looking forward to the next level of consciousness...what these things bring to the table (if they ever get around to it) I don't know. I resent being tracked like a dog..I resent them disrupting my childhood and my teen years..they break our laws and we don't even have evidence they exist. That...is a paradox I did not need in my life ...I am ever glad of the forums..to discuss it all. ;D Because we don't have answers we can only have opinions...and one is as good as another
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 17:44:04 GMT -6
Who am I ? Good question JC. I asked myself that same question while looking in a mirror about 32 years ago. Ive come to accept that Im a being created by God in His own image like everyone else. I then asked myself what it was I was staring in the face over 10 years ago . I can only conclude it was a creature from another planet or dimension created by the same divine creator who doesnt exercise our laws,morals, etc. I believe we are all here on this earth, on this forum , not by chance, but by predestination. There is something unique about many of us though apart from others because of strange ( or many strange) events in our lives that mainstream scientists or ptb either do not know about or do not want to admit. True we do not have the evidence that "they" exist, but we have each others word, and testimonies of each individual account of what each of us experienced, no matter how odd mine or anyone else's may seem, and I guess thats why were here, to share, relate, and try to understand the unexplained. Im glad you found old friends, and I look forward to a new friendship with you and many others here !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 17:48:07 GMT -6
Lorelei, my grandmother had 13 kids and my parents had 9, i'm the youngest ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 18:24:17 GMT -6
Btw Jc, after having 8 kids my mom had her tubes tied and I wasnt "planned" either . Then, came 9,,,,me !!! lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 18:43:07 GMT -6
Btw Jc, after having 8 kids my mom had her tubes tied and I wasnt "planned" either . Then, came 9,,,,me !!! lol LOL Cliff. I'm glad you were able to escape from her fallopian tube.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 21:14:06 GMT -6
OMG I just had the most horrid vision of a lil baby trying to crawl through this maze of fallopian tubes...oh lord..save me from my own mind. ~sobs~ We are...who we need to be in this moment. Pardon me while I channel Yoda for a bit. Did y'all know my name isn't Jo..it's Joda? Jo's just a family nickname ;D There are people out there (and you know some) who are very happy 9-5ing it..living narrow lives..coming home from the office..having pot roast & a glass of wine and doing exactly the same thing tomorrow and the rest of the tomorrows until something comes along to change the pattern. A quake..they get fired..some big bump..and they adjust and go on. If you are 'here'...that is not you and it's not me. For some..a different set of circumstances caused their road to fork a bit differently. They cannot quit looking up...looking 'between' the stars..they do double takes if they sense a movement over their shoulder..from the corner of their eye..they hear noises in the night and wake up with marks and bruises and most important of all...they never stop questioning. They can't. It makes them share insane.. embarrassing and terrifying moments with strangers because they must. It makes them hang on stories they hope are true and those they fear might be. They see flashes and images and feel quakes coming and hear hums..and roaring noises and freeze at night..because something happened to set them on a different path. We need every one of us..we can't be at odds with others like us...or guess what...we'll be so alone. There are times when I am so achingly alone I feel like I'm standing on some rock in space and the universe is orbiting me. I have someone around me or near me almost 100 percent of the time..I'm seldom ever alone but more and more come those times when I am painfully alone. My mind blanks out everyone around me and I am horrifyingly alone. I know some of you feel it too...and that's why we need to hang in there. We are exactly..who we are meant to be at this moment..we just don't know why...yet
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 21:37:36 GMT -6
~hugz and smoochies jo~ I love you Jo. ~cries with you~ ~gets out a bottle of chilled Moscato wine and fills two glasses~ We can watch MIB tonight, get drunk and then have a pillow fight. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2011 22:31:01 GMT -6
Wow. I thank G_d for You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You, and You! That's all a person really can do. Is Be Thankful. We are BEings. My daughter at five told me "You get watch you get and you don't throw a fit", momma. And her sister chimed in with "Isn't every day a new day, momma?" Their brother started on me a lot earlier....The Bible carelessly in the back window of the car...."Mommy look! G_d's reading!" (as the pages turned in the wind)...... I don't know what "made" you hit the hammer on the head tonight, touched, but I am moved (for lack of other words. ~smirk~) Let's just start there
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Post by lois on Oct 5, 2011 23:30:01 GMT -6
I never thought about it before reading this thread. How many here are from large families?.. I myself have 6 brothers and five sister. One has passed.. It was like a having a baseball team in our home.. Many things to share .. we are still are very close .. Most days I know how each us has spent the day.. even though we have grown kids and grandkids.. to keep us occupied.
Makes me want to ask members if all the children in their family has had ufo experience.. Or are they alone in this..
I don't know about Jo.. I don't recall you ever mentioning what size family you grew up in..
Do aliens look for large families? They could save themselves a lot of time that way. Take the whole troop of victims all at once or have a homing place to go back too every once in awhile
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 1:02:55 GMT -6
That's a good question Lois.
Me, I only have one sibling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 10:28:35 GMT -6
I have two sisters older than I am..mean creatures they are too ;D My family was a bit odd. My sisters and mother were very alike..exact blood type and all. They were all three AB+ and my dad was an O+. I am a B+ and 7 & 9 years younger than they so we weren't very close..it was more like having 2 shrewish extra mothers. My parents didn't stay married and they were both alcoholics..working by day..drinking by night.. so I spent a lot of time entertaining myself as a child. Hours in my own head and I invented stories upon stories..I was an odd waif, a wild little unkempt animal and alone. I was odd then and I grew up with the odd slant of the psychic self. The family I carved for myself is extremely close though.
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Post by auntym on Oct 6, 2011 14:14:08 GMT -6
i am the youngest of 8.... irish catholic... all of my aunts & uncles were born in the late 1800's.... so i never got to meet any of them....something i missed....
although i loved coming from a big family---and we are all close........ i always swore i would not follow suit.... i have 3 kids, all adults now, and 2 grandchildren----both teenage girls who could drive one to drink...LOL
i honestly don't know how my mother did it---raising 8.... these days i think of her as a saint.... LOL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 14:59:22 GMT -6
I have 5 children, 4 boys and 1 girl (all raised). 10 awesome, beautiful, grandchildren . Thats what it's all about and the true meaning of life !!
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Post by lois on Oct 6, 2011 19:24:12 GMT -6
it was more like having 2 shrewish extra mothers.. I had a couple of those Jo.. I can see no one shared your experience.. in your family.. I have always felt if they take one from a large family, seems they would of taken more.. One older and one younger sister did have that mind altering at 12 years which continued into to their teens like my self. So I don't feel alone in it.. Afraid they are still trying to figure it out.. I believe I know now what it was all about. I cannot help them as they have not seen ufos.. and they certainly don't believe in aliens coming here. Cliff do you have sisters and brothers? I seem to remember much about Auntym.. she has told it though the forums. Auntym do you know if your siblings has seen ufos? Lorelei, I guess you would be the only one then.. has your Mother ever told you about any thing strange occurring with her?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 19:38:29 GMT -6
My mother seems to believe me more than my father does. She doesn't recall anything strange though. My father used to have nosebleeds when I was a child. Going into my parents' bedroom and seeing blood stained pillow cases on dad's side of the bed was a common occurrence for me while growing up. He doesn't have this problem anymore... it makes me wonder since sky has this problem too. My mother told me a couple months ago that my uncle (my father's brother) used to talk about UFOs and stuff and dad would laugh at him and make fun of him until he stopped talking about it. My father's mother, my grandmother, used to sleepwalk out onto the roof of her father's house and sit on the roof after climbing out through the window. One night she woke up in the wrong town (about five miles from the town she lived in) standing in the middle of the road barefooted in her nightgown and had no idea how she had gotten there. Unfortunately, both my grandmother and my uncle have passed on so I can't ask them about it anymore...
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Post by lois on Oct 6, 2011 22:05:11 GMT -6
I don't think one would sleep walk in a night gown five miles.. there would of been some one witnessing it.. How strange.. I may of slept walked as a child my self..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 0:35:26 GMT -6
Where I used to live..you could sleep walk for miles and no one would see. Not so now..but there is that thing about people not wanting to get 'involved' ..well unless they're serial rapists or something..I'm not sure anyone around here would bother a sleepwalker. My father used to babble about some 'family secret' but he died without sharing it..he did bring it up again in the hospital just before he died but my sister just didn't catch it as he was very weak..so it remains a mystery. No one in my family is like I am...psychic I mean..but my children are. Both sons see in dreams and a daughter who is very strong..it makes for a close bond. They are all 3 grown and never will have children. They figure it's a wrong time of life to try and raise families with the world so unsettled as it is. I figure that to is the way it's supposed to be I'm still pretty convinced 'they' are interested in people who have psychic ability. Some people do without being aware of it. They have gut feelings or an impulse or a double dozen other words to describe what is 'psychic'. I think some people 'receive' without ever knowing it too. Ever had an instance when you were going to dash out the door to go somewhere..and drat..forgot the keys..run back up..come back down..car won't start..spend a frustrating half hour and then the beast magically starts..you drive down the road and pass an accident that omg you might have been in the middle of..if you had remembered the keys and the car started. So why would they want those people? They want the genetics of psychic people..or they are altering them in small stages..tweaking them...I'm thinking...it's the latter. The whole idea of hybrids doesn't make sense tome..too unstable..the genetics are unpredictable and for what? To infiltrate a society you are smart enough to conquer if you wanted? Nah..they are tweaking their abductees...and I think there are thousands who don't know they are yet. Well that's what I feel anyway, I just can't quite grasp why.. we should try sometime and see what we get collectively ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 1:43:05 GMT -6
I don't think one would sleep walk in a night gown five miles.. there would of been some one witnessing it.. How strange.. I may of slept walked as a child my self.. That's exactly what I was thinking too Lois... however... my grandmother grew up in rural North Carolina. When I say rural... I mean RURAL. Nobody was probably out and about at that time of night. My grandmother told me that her grandmother told her she wasn't allowed to watch moving pictures because they were the devil's work. That's how rural... this was back in the 1940s... Nobody would be out driving on that road in the middle of the night in the dark... nobody would have noticed her wandering around in her nightgown. ~shrug~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 1:44:25 GMT -6
Jo... that's a good thought. I think you're right.
One of the questions the hypnotherapist asked my "guide" (the little boy who appeared with solid black eyes) was, "Is Lorelei being altered genetically?"
His response was, "No."
That's reassuring... somewhat... ~sigh`
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 10:17:56 GMT -6
May be nothing to do with genetics at all. They seem to be pretty handy with mental manipulation. I know during the time I was there..my head was so stuffed feeling from the inside I thought it was going to explode. When I struggled less..the pressure lessened. I still have problems sometimes with a 'pressure' headache that feels like a numb ache on the inside of my skull, really hard to explain..like pain but dull..like you'd expect it to feel if your brain was pushing against your skull..not pleasant. Feels similar to that day. Heck I don't know what they're up to..I just feel they are. It's been suggested by some 'investigators' that there are not a bunch of entities on earth but some master manipulative race that is deceptive and interfering who lie to abductees and contactees and plant stuff in our minds. Somehow...I still think the 'grey's' are not a race but some sort of created work horse beings doing a job for others. Even if you caught one...I'm pretty sure it wouldn't part with any information and would most likely give interrogators brain trauma. Our own human arrogance has caused us trouble in the past..and probably will again
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 8:36:04 GMT -6
Some of my "experiences" are really cool, as opposed to being creepy . Last night I dreamed that I was at some sort of conference (nothing alien related). Someone asked our group (when we broke off into smaller groups for workshop) if any one of us could sing. Another person in the group seemed to recognize me (they were a stranger to me) and mentioned that I sang in front of a church. I explained that was as a child and I declined singing now. A little while ago my mom was practicing bits of songs on the piano, flipping through a hymn book to choose what she wanted to play for Sunday school this morning. She played the song I sang as a child in front of the church.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 8:50:32 GMT -6
I want to go back to the word "serendipity" (and I'll make more challenges if that gets a quick response from certain people ). Wikiped. went on to talk about specific scientific discoveries that had serendipity. This interests me. How much has "serendipity" actually helped us? Does it get "acknowledged" all the time it happens in scientific study? Then, would some people say that serendipity is just "chance"? Has serendipity happened so many times now that it is a "statistical" occurrence?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 9:30:06 GMT -6
"We believe that "our" God made the earth and everything and being on it." paulette then goes on to talk about theories that have been brought up about the Annunukei, etc. I believe that her main statement was that things I observe don't necessarily have to be separately categorized as "technology" or "spiritual". I can understand why no one seems to want to "go there". Even trying to compare angels and demons to aliens becomes a "can of worms". Etc, etc. I have to wonder why so many books had to be lost. The library in Alexandria isn't the only library destroyed... who really decides what is left in the Bible and what is taken out? Is there parts of the Koran missing? The Vedas? I have lots of questions .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 5:14:32 GMT -6
I have never kept a "dream journal". I either thought I had too many dreams, or they didn't mean much anyway.... Maybe I should . I woke up after an intense dream last night (early morning) and told myself to remember specific details, and then fell back asleep. The dream was short . I dreamed I am the age I am now, and I was standing in a neighbors driveway talking with a neighbor who is about 7 yrs. older than me, and was also showing his correct age. I haven't spoken with this man in years. He has several children, as do I, and we were talking about where our kids would go trick-or-treating this up coming halloween (I laughed because my daughters are still wanting to do this). We said good-bye, and then I walked down to my home (also current and family home since I was 4). Before I went inside my house (again, dream) I was suddenly approached (out of seemingly nowhere) by a "being". He wanted something from me; an item (?). Besides being terrified, I ran back to the neighbor's house ("Being" behind me) and pounded on their front door. I was calling out the man's name and asking him something (?) about this "Being". He opened the door, basically acknowledged the "Being", and shut the door again (calmly). When I turned to the "Being" he now had his back to me and was headed for the street. Confused and on high alert, I woke up. When I first woke up I had the sense that I have something I'm not supposed to still have, but I don't know what it is. I don't have that sense now. Though the "Being" seemed powerful, and was insisting on something, he didn't touch me or bother me (like my mind), other than now I'm left wondering... first, the "being". At least a foot or more taller than me. Could have been less because he was "gliding" along and I didn't see his feet. I did not take his "gliding" as him being ghostly. So, around 6'7", slender, and a shock of very white hair sticking up off of his head. Long, dark trench coat type that covered his entire body. He had on a large white bandanna (no ties in back visible) that he wore bandit style; it covered from right below his eyes to the neck into the trench coat. Eyes seemed "normal" but I don't recall them . Did not see hands or feet. No impression of nose or mouth on bandanna. Trench coat was so long that feet could have been missing...but the "man" was solid as far as I could tell. A white "man", but I "knew" he was a "visitor". What was significant about this dream (to me) was the neighbor I had to take/show him to. The neighbor I was talking to about our kids is one of the boys who "found" me at our new house when I was four...he no longer lives in this house (I was pounding on the door), but his mom still does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 13:49:47 GMT -6
Interesting dream JC. Hmm... No nose and no mouth... sounds like a stereotypical gray reference...
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