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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 5:31:44 GMT -6
I don't like to ask my dtrs a bunch of questions. I want to save the interrogations for emergencies . I asked my dtr. this am about Mario. "Could that cat in my room have been Mario?" her answer: "Maybe......no. I thought it was a girl cat." I mentioned the episode last week about her saying Mario's name by accident at her dads. She did recall this. She said she did it because there is a stray cat that comes by her dads (it was there at the time) and her dad has named him "Luigi". In early 2003 my dtr. was 5 yrs. old.
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Post by paulette on Oct 19, 2011 10:04:07 GMT -6
Somehow I lost track of this thread but it certainly is ringing my bells!
I have dreams periodically still (and did as a child) in which what seems like a familiar person is "wrong" and I'm frightened. Sometimes I work through that fear and they admit they are not who they seem but that they "came that way" so that I would talk to them.
This is a similar theme to Jodie Foster's father in Contact when she and he are visiting on a beach. Incidentally Carl Sagan (who wrote the book Contact) retired and spent his last years on a beach in Indonesia - he was the opening person in a hokey TV show that talked about UFO and other phenomena and mostly debunked it. I thought it was interesting that someone chose to make the meeting place somewhere like where he lived. When is Carl not really the skeptical Carl? When he is someone who looks like Carl and is an intervening alien???
Anyway - in your cat story you mentioned that you do have something in your bed but it is a small dog not your old cat. Either way, they are protectors. If something was "visiting" your room, it warned your daughter off in a way that did not traumatize her. Which is good...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 20:54:05 GMT -6
"I can't believe this was only yesterday!" (myself)
Isn't it also strange how "heightened" our feelings can be about any given place, or time, and then later it's difficult to feel that way again about the same thing??
I mentioned this to my co worker today. His exact words " I know. It's CLEAR". (speaking about the grove on the hill).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2011 20:59:20 GMT -6
Sounds like it very well might be Mario. He's still checking in on you. That's wonderful! Thank you, lorelei! I swear, if people gave you HALF the positive energy you put out, you'd never have low self-esteem! Wouldn't that be sweet if it was a cat that I know?! After a dog of mine died, for the next 2 weeks I kept seeing him poke his little nose out from under the bed (with a bed skirt). It used to be a game he played with me to get to stay in my room. :0
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 20:38:18 GMT -6
I want to ask about a "form" of the greys I have seen in dreams. They do not look like the squat, ugly gray men shown in the Whitley Streiber movie.
However, I have heard enough people around here say that they are emotionless; like an automated clone.
I have these "beings" around me in dreams, in different settings, but most often in a war, apocalypse type. It seems that we (them and me) are riding in the back of an open military truck from one area to the next. There are explosions going on around us yet "they" do not seem to notice. They get out of the truck slowly and walk slowly. I think of them as "zombies" not because they're lurching, or chasing people, but because I think of them as already "dead". The first few times I had these dreams I didn't know I was dreaming and I was so scared they would see me, but even though it seems I'm right there with them, they don't notice me. Of course they don't seem to notice much....and thats why they seem like automations. They do have some purpose, but I don't get that detail?
They are gray in color. possibly thin men. their clothes look all the same but indescript (also gray in color). All about the same height, and not short. They are pretty much emotionless; mouths shut, solumn faces.
This is one type of grey I see. I'm curious if others see this type?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 22:10:45 GMT -6
Sounds like the ones I saw... much taller than the ones most others see...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 4:53:56 GMT -6
....except for the most part, this version I see does look like "men". They seem to have noses, I can't recall their hands being weird; I just know that at first their sheer numbers terrified me. One dream I seemed to run from them up a long hill, only to come to a locked gate. I turned around and they weren't running after me. oh, and this was a dream where I could actually run . of the pictures you posted, lorelei, on your experience thread, I'm also somewhat bothered by the first picture (also, in this picture bothered cliff ?). I think this is because "they" look the most like "children" here and I can imagine how easy it would be to disguise themselves as children (oooo...shiver).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 2:13:57 GMT -6
Halloween will never be the same.....
Listen to me long enough, and you'll find I'm mostly scared of PEOPLE. They're so unpredictable and I don't want to hurt anybody, ya know?
Halloween is a special time of year. People can act scarey. It didn't take much for me to take the true "spirit" out of this holiday, and believe that scarey looking gargoyles on cathedral roofs actually could keep the "bad things" away. That was the purpose right? Even we could wear costumes and scare those things that normally enjoy scaring us. One night a year we acknowledge that evil can roam the earth, and the next day give thanks to the Saints for protecting us.
What I'm about to tell you did not happen on Halloween.
It was Spring, 2008. I was looking forward to summer. I had decided that I was to become some sort of "warrior", from signs I had been receiving. The summer was the perfect time for me to study whatever I needed to for this new role. I would be off work and even though what I was starting to study was often a dark subject, I knew there was light also, and the summer sun and pool beckoned me with open arms for all the books I was to read. Besides, one of the signs I was shown was already giving me strength. Couldn't I walk through the spellbook part of Borders without my stomach reminding me where I had wandered?
I had already (briefly) studied Santeria faith when a possible child abuse case was involved. I have a friend whose grandmother exposed her to Satanic ritual. I knew (personally) of Judaic "tribes" that tried to use mystic teachings of the Great Ari, beyond the cabala. I already had a copy of the Necromon____. I was to start with a boring book on the Rosicrucian's and find what I could on Houdon, the positive side of Voodoo. I will tell you I didn't get far. With Hoodoo, there is an intricate weaving of natural herbs for healing, charms, and language that is hard to learn. A Wiccan would understand, but there is more. Though Hoodoo is done "for good", or to reverse unworthy curses, it is a realm that can be overwhelming and frightening. There is much more to this than I am ready to share. And I believe it is active right here, in the States.
To take a break, I began to study numerology. I was "led" to make a friend of a kind "gypsy" near my age, in France. I already had friends in France so this felt quite comfortable. She sensed my ability, we had a good re-pore, and she began to entice me with ideas of power. I also could sense things about her, and I often prayed for her and told her so. This was no problem, as far as I know. We began to talk more about things she could and wanted to teach me. But she wanted some sort of commitment from me. What? I don't understand. Ah, it doesn't matter. We talk more. Then she asks for something of mine. Huh? Ah, it is simple; a token of our mutual friendship.
Alarm bells. Is there some reason why I took a break from Voodoo/Hoodoo? How did I end up here? Is there a reason I was first led to study this ancient faith?
Is any of this real? Does it mean anything? Now I need a break from my break!
I never once thought to ask for protection. For myself.
Again, Spring 2008. I am very tired. It is a beautiful Sunday afternoon and I think I'll just crawl in my bed, windows open, nice breeze, no cares until my kids come home later. The windows don't even make it open. It is a wonderful sleep. So heavy. I'm just sinking and sinking into deep layers of comfortable bedding and my mind is wandering from dream to dream...and I must wake up! Why can't I open my eyes all the way? Something is wrong. Then, OMG, I don't believe this! Something is on top of my body, pressing, pressing, I can't breathe! Did a dresser fall on me??!! I get my eyes open, there is nothing on top of me! The room is full of daylight I tell myself, I am alone, but the TERROR! The TERROR is mindless, I'm grasping at straws, mentally feeling all the parts of my body for violation, and this THING is just pressing, pressing down on me on the bed! OMG it feels like a body on top of me; what is this?!? Finally I find my voice and I yell "In the Name of Jesus Christ leave me alone!"
The weight is gone. I'm breathing heavy and that "mindless terror" feeling is gone. But is something still here?? My first impulse is to flee. I want to cry, but I still must be in shock. I sit up. OMG I can move. Sigh. I make a decision. I say outloud, "I belong to Jesus Christ, and He is protecting me. You are not welcome here. I am going to finish my nap!"
Somehow, I fall back asleep for 2 hours. No dreams. I pick up my kids later, and I try not to let the day "haunt me".
I must have blown this incident off. You tell yourself it was a dream (though to this day I know it wasn't). I can't even try to explain that TERROR feeling; there is no way to describe it. I can say TERROR, and know how awful it is, and pray I never ever have to feel that again. But right now, I can't feel it.
The following Sunday, I took a nap in the afternoon, in my bedroom again. You'd think I at least would lay somewhere else; another room. No. No! Deep sleep, but I'm barely under and that TERROR! Weight! I'm lying on my left side with my right arm across my body, and I can't move! I can breathe this time because of my position, and OMG! I can raise my right arm 2 inches with this thing on top of me! I'm keeping it off me somewhat, taking my mental inventory of my body, but the TERROR! It feels like a person trying to press me down! Now I'm sobbing and trying to raise my right arm, but I'm getting so weak, and all I can do is mutter "Jesus...in the Name of Jesus..." and the pressure is still there but my arm flies upwards as I suddenly can move it, whatever it is tries to readjust (I sense this) and I say again "Jesus help...me..." and suddenly I hear, the most beautiful singing. Its male voices (I'm thinking....huh...shouldn't female...choir...) and am I also hearing cheering?? Some sort of applause? What is this? I feel some sort of affirmation....I have passed some test...I don't know. The singing is beautiful! The terror is gone. I know somehow, this is over.
I flee the house. I cannot sleep here again (anywhere in this house) for a long time. And even then with my two dogs present, and my home blessed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 6:25:36 GMT -6
One thing I seem to be asked often, about the Bible. I mean, it keeps coming up as a topic with different people. And on the "ancient aliens" series they come back to the Moses story quite a bit. I don't think people keep mentioning to me because they know I have dealt with this. I think I'm just supposed to be made aware how important this "event" can truly be in peoples lives. Even if it's just because they were impressed with Charleton Heston's performance . And let's not go into if ANY of the story actually happened or not. Supposedly the first 5 books of the Bible were written by Moses. I don't want to question that either. But I'm going to question some of the parts of his "story". 1. An oracle, or premonition was "officially" accepted before his birth by "Believers" and non-believers alike, that a special baby was to be born. People believed it enough to try and stop it. How aware of this oracle were the people's children? Including a daughter of Pharaoh. 2. Moses commits murder himself, and commands others to murder/kill. To wipe out an entire people (possibly some of them a race of giants). Moses receives G_d's commandments on a mountain top. One of those commandments is "Thou shalt not kill". 3. Later on, we read and hear from, a special man of G_d named David. Chosen from childhood. He becomes a warrior, and though he rose to fame from the killing of a Philistine giant, he later takes refuge with the Philistines when his life is in danger. David is told even later by G_d that he cannot build a house for G_d because he has been a warrior and there is too much blood on his hands. This line of thinking is relevant to my thread because of the supposed severity of G_ds wrath against certain people; including "natural" mediums. I have to go do leaves now . Thank You, lorelei. You are awesome! Thank You also for sharing with us your belief that G_d cares about us and can help us with headaches. Thank You, touched, for your friendship! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jc, i'll try to help answer at least a couple of these questions but I too have so much to learn and I have many questions myself. I believe the key word to Questions 2 and 3 has to do with the shedding of innocent blood. There were at least 16 crimes in the old testament calling for the death penalty. God used certain people (such as David) to ward off evil from the land,kenites included. I believe the reason David fled to the Philistines was a tactical one. David pretended allegiance to Achish while fighting the enemies of Judah ( 1 Samuel ch.27). The time spent in Ziklag would give him valuable military and diplomatic experience for the time when he would become king. It would also increase the # of his forces( 1 Chr. 12:1-7). I know that one of the reasons God didnt want David to build the house was because David built hisself a huge house and the one he planned to build God was quite smaller than his own which is one of the reasons God was peeved at him although he still was the apple of his eye.I hope this helps, the other questions Ill try to do some searching and get back with you on maybe through a pm. Like I mentioned above, I too have so many questions. I need to get back into studying the scriptures and get refreshed. I have a little "dust on my bible".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 6:47:29 GMT -6
....of the pictures you posted, lorelei, on your experience thread, I'm also somewhat bothered by the first picture (also, in this picture bothered cliff ?). I think this is because "they" look the most like "children" here and I can imagine how easy it would be to disguise themselves as children (oooo...shiver). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Some of the pics I see of the greys have a tendency to throw me back in my seat .ive seen some that just make me cringe. I guess it just brings up a flashback when there are certain similarities. Its hard to describe the feelings I get when seeing them. Its not that I cant look at them, its just difficult I guess to explain. Lorelei did an excellent job of depicting some of their characteristics and im so glad she was able to actually draw it, its alot harder than it looks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2011 15:10:24 GMT -6
~hugs Cliff~
It is hard...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 13:47:58 GMT -6
touched, I'm glad about your bible! If it needs a little dusting that generally means you have one and it's out in the open, eh ? Lol. "1. An oracle, or premonition was "officially" accepted before his birth by "Believers" and non-believers alike, that a special baby was to be born. People believed it enough to try and stop it. How aware of this oracle were the people's children? Including a daughter of Pharaoh." Also, thank you for addressing my questions... By the way, in my study of religion ( I listed a few above) I also study atheism. I encourage others that they cannot walk one mile in someone else's shoes unless they first try them on. the bible is a Hebrew version, of, say, their history. I find it interesting that they leave themselves so open to criticism. I believe that G_d speaks to everyone. I believe that when He decided to no longer be alone, He created many, many different life forms. I believe that we are literally made from the "dust" of this Earth, and a particle of Him. The story of the garden (IMO) is partly about becoming less of Him and more of this Earth simply because we "take in" (eat) more and more of this Earth. We originally were able to walk and talk in the garden with Him because of our state of being, our 'vibration', if you will. After eating the "wrong fruit" it wasn't that He couldn't find us; we could no longer see Him. The transition happened too fast. We were to enjoy being physical beings but retain some of our "heritage". (the Essenes have written on this subject...and others). I digress. back to Moses. The bible gives ample speculation on cultural affairs for further study and speculation . G_d speaks to everyone. Touched could reference the story of Saul seeing a seer, or the story of Balaam and his talking donkey, etc. These two people were not exactly friends of the Hebrew. I believe Moses was raised as an Egyptian prince would be. Considered half man, half god. Taught by priests as part of his "heritage". In other words, Moses was a magician. However you prefer to take that, all his "stunts" (almost all) were repeated by the local priests. Nurture or nature. How the king missed the pregnancy of his daughter (if she said Moses was her child) is probably a cultural thing. I believe Moses had a "spiritual experience" not long after he killed someone, then ran into the desert and almost died from dehydration and starvation. This is important. going without Earthly food for a short time, can affect our "memory". He may have been saved by a local herdsman before the burning bush happened, but you get the idea. I don't mean to imply that Moses was visited by "aliens". I do think "extraterrestrial" is a fairly good term in some cases, because (as I've expressed) if you spend too much time around this terrestrial stuff it tends to....well.....become a part of you. I do think that there were "other life forms" making regular appearances, as they seem to do now. I think it is evident that our life blood is part of what makes us different. I think, that the sprinkling of blood on seasonal occasions; planting, harvesting, was only a representation of the life-giving water that we requested from Heaven... Supposedly, the people (of Moses) that stood to threaten the people of Egypt, came there because they got hungry. An oracle or prophecy had helped the Egyptians to plan for a coming famine. Here we have 2 dreams/oracles/prophecies fulfilled. A great famine that brings people to Egypt, and one of those people eventually grows up to "buck the system". ugh. We're back to "where do these prophecies come from??"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 15:00:06 GMT -6
Something that ive struggled with all my life is religion. With so many different churches and beliefs I didnt know what to believe or which church I should go to. I have been to so many different ones while searching for the one that agrees with what the word has to say . Even to this day I dont go to any one particular denomination. I found one on t.v. that I have learned from and I can agree with about everything that is being taught. I truly believe that we are at the end of time era and the famine written in the book of Revelation is the lack of the word or true spiritual food which is so hard to find these days. The famous quote that helps me through this dilemma is "seek and ye shall find".
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Post by skywalker on Oct 28, 2011 15:55:51 GMT -6
Balaam had a talking donkey?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 0:57:43 GMT -6
yah sky! Though I think it was a one time deal.... And I think this is the kind of story you'll like! Balaam kept beating the cr___ out of his donkey for not going forward, and the donkey finally reminded him "Hey! Don't I usually go forward for you? Rethink this (ya big dummy!)" Just imagine if our premonitions of upcoming "danger" in the road was our animal in the car with us instead of a 'hunch'! (book of Numbers and chapter 22)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 1:28:42 GMT -6
"and the famine written in the book of Revelation is the lack of the word or true spiritual food " which, by the way, has happened in the history of mankind before. For example, G_d's word had become scarce when the little boy of Samuel heard G_d call for him in the night. I like the way you say "end of time era", touched . We may just have some good things to look forward to....G_d has promised many times that if we will change our ways and listen to Him, He will not destroy us. I am not terribly familiar with the book of Revelation, though I have 2-3 books that have commentary on it by other men of G_d. I know that it speaks of the past and our future, but it has not been "revealed" to me. I recommend that a person look up churches and find ones that have a bible study class during the week. Generally these are small groups; low pressure type settings. A person could attend one of these for several weeks before making a decision to visit the main church service.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 18:11:28 GMT -6
Lorelei recently shared her dream involving a long white hallway with doors (see lorelei's dream journal). I have also experienced a long white hallway. This is a "story" I planned to share, but have been hesitant to do so. The story does not bother me personally to share. I'm long past the fear and anxiety that it initially caused, and it has become a major stepping stone in my return to the Christian faith. That is why I am hesitant to share this. I don't think my "experience" was a dream. If it was, then it was only tailored to give me false security. For what reason? People tend to call out for their god when they truly feel their life is in danger. Some people regularly carry a talisman for protection. I question (myself) why I should feel like apologizing about offending someone because I call out for help from my G_d? In steve's hypnosis thread, a point is made that "han" is NOT a demon. To me, this is also pretty obvious. . We haven't heard anything about steve running around naked, jumping into fires, or spitting on his wife's church, etc. OOps. There is only one "han". Maybe if their were 5..... Anyway, I don't know why this distinction of alien/demon/angel/time-traveler is so important. Unless it really is a matter of how to "stop them"..... I've also been trying to give my "personal history", that is, of course, tailored just for me. So, if I do influence REALITY with my thoughts... Anyhow, I've had lots and lots of dreams where I literally feared for my life. Somehow I have made it through WITHOUT calling for help from my G_d. In all the years, 17 years from babyhood before my defection, no one EVER suggested that I ask for help WHILE I am dreaming . No one even said they would pray for me that I wouldn't have bad dreams. And these dreams were affecting my daily life; making me sick. I started to share this "experience" on the other forum. It "came up" because these "beings" spoke to me. Another poster commented on how remarkable this was, that normally these "beings" didn't speak to people. I don't know if she meant telepathically, or what, but at the time I declined telling exactly what they said and admitted that I felt like the "beings" were just teasing me. They didn't want me to answer. In hind sight, maybe they thought I couldn't ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 18:22:18 GMT -6
note: right now I have a loud "ringing" coming from behind my right ear. I have had a tension headache twice today; both times relieved with OTC pain med. No headache now. Yesterday the trunk door of my van came down on my head but today I don't even have a normal sore spot where it hit (?). If I have ringing, it is usually IN my left ear. Touched (cliff) has mentioned that he "feels" things in his head when certain subjects are talked about.....example used (I believe) was when he said the word "implant". See his experience thread . I think that I also am affected at times in this manner. To the point of even during a memory, or posting something that happened to me. Ahhhh. It has finally lessened
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 22:20:52 GMT -6
It's been a strange evening. I'm basically "holed" up in my room. The plan was to go to bed early with a good book.... At the end of my work day I was on the large playground out back. This week there have been a huge amount of chem trails, and more planes flying overhead. I park under some trees near the back lot but can go to my car from either the back or a side door. Today a helicopter showed up right before I went to my car. We are a ways from the hiway so I don't know why a "traffic" copter is around... I put my "big dog" in at 7:30 p.m. The weather is nice (again) but he almost ran to his kennel in the garage. (?) I put my toy (poodle) out while getting a snack and let him back in. We came upstairs and he has been laying on my bed ever since . Around 9:00 p.m. my mom yelled at my dad (from upstairs) to let my toy back in. I questioned her, and she said he was barking outside. How confusing. The barking does sound just like him, but he is still on my bed. I go downstairs and check the back door lock. I have a headache (again)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 23:33:40 GMT -6
Very strange...
I hope your head feels better JC...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 14:30:39 GMT -6
Thanks lorelei . I slept really well from 12:00 midnite to 6:00 a.m., straight thru. That was nice. My sinus' are pretty good today. Our weather is really weird and like some others here on the forum, I'm affected by barometric pressure, I believe. One day this week we had 70 degrees all thru the nite, then 32 degrees, and now it's a beautiful 56. I'm giving myself a little time before posting my hallway...I think you will notice some similarities in our stories (if not just the symbolism) and I don't want your event to any way color mine ;D . One benefit I'm aware of in my age and developing short-term memory loss. huh? what did I just say?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2011 9:03:10 GMT -6
Long White Hallway _____________________________________________________ I remember going to sleep. I feel like I "woke up" in this type of mansion. I've dreamed of this mansion many times, so even though I was only in this hallway at this time, it felt familiar, like I was in the same mansion, but somewhere new. I was myself, and I wasn't frightened. Just curious . Where I was facing, there were prolly 5-6 doors down both sides of the hall, and then a large archway, with a drop off. The drop-off I assumed, was stairs leading downward. The hallway and doors were all white, which was interesting to me, because the mansion (if it was it) had a lot of dark paneling. I sensed the hallway stretched farther behind me, and since the doors were 5-6 feet apart, there was still quite a ways to the stairs. I sensed it was OK to open the door in front of me, but as I went to do so (hand on the door knob) I was approached (seemingly out of nowhere) by two men. They both were 6'2", slim, very attractive Asian men, prolly half my age. They got on both sides of me and rather abruptly directed me down the hall to the stairs by holding both my arms near the elbow. I was going along rather in surprise but was definitely starting to feel apprehensive; still, none of us had spoken. They were strong as they guided me down the stairs and I was briefly distracted by the view at the bottom of the stairs. The archway at the top of the stairs started a new type of passage, to the outdoors. The doors at the bottom of the stairs were flung wide open, to a beautiful green, lively meadow, that seemed to stretch for miles. The sun was shining and I'd never been outside the "mansion" so I for a moment was filled with wonder... But in this moment, almost the same moment as us walking outside the mansion, the two men (still holding my arms) drastically changed. It happened quickly, no gross peeling of skin or anything, but suddenly I was being held by two, muscular, reptoid-looking men. It appeared they were leering at me and they held even more firm as they began to walk me to the right; away from the meadow and the mansion, to somewhere else. Ok, this is even weirder. For the life of me, right now, writing this (and the last 2 days thinking about it) I can't remember what they said to me! It wasn't about where they were taking me (I did not want to go) but something about my faith. It was very clear, for a long time, so why can't I remember?? And at the time (worth mentioning) I had no faith at all. But I can recall trying to desperately hide that fact in my mind, as if they could read my mind, and I stated out loud that I believed in Jesus Christ. They laughed, said they didn't believe me, so I restated "I believe in Jesus Christ". They let go of me, I felt like I was passing out, and I woke up in my bedroom. This in itself was interesting, because generally I might just "pop into another dream" at this point. And you can't imagine the instant relief (well, maybe you can). I thought I had died, was going to h__, and somehow I was given another chance. I deeply felt this. Now, after I woke up, and during that point they were talking to me, I thought I was a "goner". I literally thought they were taking me to a place with no return. I even entertained the idea (in those seconds) that is this a dream? Will I wake up?? I also knew, very distinctly, that I had lied to these beings. I didn't believe, and it had taken me a long time to just admit this to myself. So why had they let me go? This event struck me so hard, that I basically collapsed in gratitude. If Jesus the Christ did somehow save me from these beings, why didn't I believe?
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Post by skywalker on Nov 6, 2011 9:34:49 GMT -6
Perhaps you are being given another chance... I dunno. I'm not good at interpreting dreams. I can't even understand my own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 0:18:44 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing Jc. I noticed how you wrote "woke up". Then, farther through you asked"is this a dream"? In your opinion, do you think this was a dream or maybe there's more to it ? I dont normally dream much anymore and what little I do I cant seem to recall what it was I dreamt about, that's why I haven't posted a dream thread so I hope you dont mind that I mention this one here. I use to have a reoccurring nightmare about a chest in an old attic that I would get closer and closer to each time but eventually I gained enough courage to go up to it and look inside just to realize it was empty(I too had that instant relief you mentioned) and I never had the dream again afterward. For years I had that same nightmare and I'm glad I dont anymore. I hope yours stopped too !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 6:14:52 GMT -6
"I noticed how you wrote "woke up". Then, farther through you asked"is this a dream"? In your opinion, do you think this was a dream or maybe there's more to it " I wish it was a dream only. I think there is more to it, and I try (often) to reassure myself that the dreams I have are "misplaced thoughts" . For example, I've been reading and involved in a thread here about foot problems. Twice this week I have added components to dreams about my feet. Last night I dreamed that my left heel was caressed by someone. Another night I dreamed that a lady told me to quit popping my toe on my left foot. She warned of infection... If I wake up shortly after a dream, I am very groggy. Still in that "heavy" feeling and it's hard to wake up. Any morning after waking I am not "awake". It takes me quite a while to feel like I have any clarity at all; I can't think. So, when I am really awake, it is when I have had enough "stimulus" to get my mind going. Whether that stimulus is caffeine, cold air, walking the dog, or conversation. During the day, an interesting conversation can refresh me. What I'm trying to say, is there is a marked difference (for me) in "clarity" at "settings" of my mind. This is something I've always had to deal with. In my daily life, especially lately, I have instances where I "fade out". If I get up too quickly, I have to steady myself, even if while sitting I felt very engaged in what I was doing. I have certain dreams that have that wakefullness, real-time clarity. I postulate that these "types" are not just dreams, and during these "dreams" I have to either "pass-out", black out, or go to sleep (yes, I've layed down) to "come back". I am almost instantly awake when I "come back". You see how that is unusual for me? This also seems to be a theme when someone talks about being hypnotized....the instant wake-up (?). I don't have health problems, per sec. My family has history of diabetes, stroke, heart trouble, so I'm making an effort to stay healthy. I do have an old head/neck injury. Because of my "dream life" I've done a lot of study about dreams. I can do an imaginative sort of lucid dreaming. So, I've tried to use some techniques in "dreams" that I feel has "more to them". One technique is checking the time. I do that enough in "real life" for that to be an obvious "check". Well, guess what? When I locate a clock (even on a cell phone) the clock is "broken". Pretty weird, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 10:52:12 GMT -6
I'm the same way Cliff..I'm sure I do dream..its very necessary to the brain but my recall of it is very limited and when I do remember..seems more foolish than most. I never have nightmares..or bad dreams and I'm pretty sure that my brain put a stop to those when I was a child because they terrified me. Instead I 'developed' this psychic thing and a tendency to day dream a LOT. I put a stop to that recently when I discovered I was 'entertaining' myself with the most improbable scenarios you could imagine.. I was putting myself in dozens of these mini 'plays' all day long. Who needs to dream...sheesh. When I consciously put an end to these, forcing to make myself live in the NOW..it's upped the 'psychic' energy in some fashion. I have more 'feelings'..so I think I may have developed all of that to form a detachment..not see things I didn't like...sort of thing. Amazing what the mind can do. In indisciplining myself..I'm becoming more undisciplined LOL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 11:00:45 GMT -6
The spirit world is definitely trying to tell you something about your feet JC. I think you're right, you should go see a foot doctor too. Image is a copy of Salvador Dali's work "The persistence of Memory". Image source: Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Dal%C3%ADBroken clocks... that's really interesting... ------------ From Dream Moods.com: dreammoods.comClock To see a clock in your dream signifies the importance of time in some waking situation. You may be feeling some anxiety of not being on top of things. Your mind may be preoccupied with a deadline that you have to meet or some other time-sensitive issue. It is time for you to tread on and speed up your actions. If the clock is chiming, then it suggests that time is running out. Alternatively, clocks symbolize the ticking of the human heart and thus is indicative of the emotional side of your life.�If the clock has stopped, then it signifies death. This is a common theme for the terminally ill or the dying. Consider the time shown on the clock and determine the significance of the numerals or of the time. To dream that the time on a clock is moving or speeding out of control symbolizes some overwhelming task or emotion that you are going through in your waking life. Time is not on your side. To dream that a clock is moving backwards parallels the way that your life is going. Instead of moving forward and progressing toward your goals, you feel that you have not made any significant accomplishments. You feel you are stuck in a rut. To dream that you are winding or setting a clock suggests that you need to put more effort toward a task in order to obtain the desired result or outcome. Clock Tower To see a clock tower in your dream indicates that you will be recognized for your work. Grandfather Clock To see a grandfather clock in your dream signifies the past or a passage of time. Perhaps a decision has been weighing on your mind for quite some time. Alternatively, a grandfather clock may refer to the patriarch and perhaps some outdated views and way of thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 19:39:57 GMT -6
Lorelei, please! Quit yer "skimming" me ;D I said, I use clocks for a "check". If you are an avid astral traveler you should know what lucid dreamers use clocks for. When I purposely put a clock in my own dream it is not now a dream symbol . A broken clock then becomes a signal to myself that "Yes! I'm dreaming". I also use the telephone as a "check". It should have a dial tone when I pick it up. Seriously. The movie "Inception" was done pretty well. Did you see it? The characters had ways to "check" themselves. I don't think a spinning top is a very good "check" . Conversely, clocks and phones are every where, right? What should I think if I can't find either?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 19:57:22 GMT -6
"When I purposely put a clock in my own dream it is not now a dream symbol . A broken clock then becomes a signal to myself that "Yes! I'm dreaming"."
Now, let me confuse you. Speculation, of course. Supposedly, a clock in dreamland should be working, but I'm supposed to be able to notice that it is different. My theory is, If I can't tell the time in a dream, and then compare it to our time, who (or what) doesn't want me to know this information? "They" now know why I'm looking for cell phones, so what's the perfect way to keep me in doubt? The cell phone isn't charged, the clock needs a new battery...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 20:06:00 GMT -6
Cliff, I used to dream of someone chasing me. Lol. I would go in the weirdest places to try to get away. Tunnel after tunnel, after tunnel, after tunnel. Or green pasture, climb a fence, more green pasture, climb a fence....I learned from studying dream theory that I should just turn to the someone and ask them if I can help them. After I did this, I was no longer chased . However, I still run, and run, even in the green meadows. I guess I like to run. (in real life I only walk).
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