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Post by swamprat on Oct 5, 2011 19:53:45 GMT -6
Check out UFO Stalker tonight---nine reports of large craft over Lee's Summit/Kansas City, MO area on 10-4.....
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Post by lois on Oct 5, 2011 22:51:24 GMT -6
Swamprat.. I have noticed Kansas City has been having fleets of lights since April.. Many videos of them also on u tube, which are truly ufos one cannot tell..
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Post by swamprat on Oct 6, 2011 14:43:08 GMT -6
A subsequent Mufon sighting report from Lee's Summit 10-4 included a video which Mufon promptly took from public view and put it in their "investigators only" file.......
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Post by swamprat on Oct 6, 2011 14:58:29 GMT -6
Missouri MUFON: 'Kansas City UFO flap continues'Roger Marsh UFO Examiner October 6, 2011 Witnesses in the greater Kansas City, MO, area who saw unidentified objects on October 3 and 4, 2011, are being asked to come forward - especially anyone with photos or video of the events, according to an October 6, 2011, statement from the Missouri investigation team assembled from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). Missouri MUFON Assistant State Director Margie Kay reports that "17 independent witnesses reported a large, unidentified object flying at low altitude over several locations in Kansas City, Lee's Summit, and Raytown, MO, between 8 and 9 p.m. on October 4, 2011." Earlier reports from October 3, 2011, describe a similar object in nearby Lee's Summit. Kay reports that these sightings now include a total of 62 reports from the greater Kansas City area in the past 90 days - with a total of 84 reports during the same period from the entire state. In situations where a large number of people are independently reporting an object, a UFO investigation is treated similar to reports coming from just one witness at one location. The investigating team first reviews all possible manmade and Mother Nature possibilities. Keep in mind that military operations are rarely announced prior to deployment - and experimental-style crafts have accounted for many past sighting reports. The large number of witnesses in this case most likely caused MUFON to push the STAR team into place as having many eyes looking at the same event from different locations is rare with UFO reports; and it also raises the possibility that multiple, independent photos or video will become available for study. (One submitted--Mufon buried it)The STAR team is a MUFON investigation unit that allows investigators and scientists to move into a location within 24 hours in a high priority status to gather evidence; while allowing for the same high quality investigation standards promoted in any investigation. In the meantime, Missouri MUFON has released a statement today - and that piece follows. Stop back to the UFO Examiner home page for the latest updates on this and other cases being reported across the U.S. If you have an independent report - please file directly with MUFON. From Missouri MUFON: Seventeen independent witnesses reported a large, unidentified object flying at low altitude over several locations in Kansas City, Lee's Summit, and Raytown, MO, between 8 and 9 p.m. on October 4, 2011. The reports were filed at the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) website. The witnesses described a similar object that was extremely large with multiple lights in a triangular shape on the bottom side. The lights were facing down. Some people reported that the object tilted 90 degrees on its side, then took off at a high rate of speed. One person said that the object hovered just 30 feet over the Raytown water tower near 63rd Street and Raytown Road. The object then rose up 15 feet, flipped on its side 90 degrees, and took off at "light speed" and out of sight. There was no noise and there was a black contrail behind it. He said the size was massive. The witness said that some people came out of a Wendy's restaurant to view the object, and that others were stopped on the road looking at the object. On October 3, five witnesses reported a massive UFO over I-70 and other areas in Kansas City at approximately 3:30 p.m. There was a traffic jam on the highway due to an accident and people were watching and filming the object from their cars. These recent reports follow 62 UFO sightings in the Kansas City area in the past 90 days, making 84 reports total during that time period. Most of the reports remain unexplained. The MUFON STAR Team has been activated, with Assistant State Director Margie Kay of Kansas City heading up the investigations with the assistance of Stan Seba in Lawrence, KS; and State Director Debbie Ziegelmeyer in St. Louis. Other investigators from nearby states are on standby in case their assistance is needed. MUFON is checking radar reports, airport logs, and putting together a time-line and sighting locations, which will be released to the media shortly. www.examiner.com/ufo-in-national/missouri-mufon-kansas-city-ufo-flap-continues
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 15:17:11 GMT -6
After reading this last night I went out with camera in hand ready to capture a photo of this thing and will continue to do so although I live a couple hrs. away, it is still close geographically . I still have mixed emotions as to whether or not I want to see anything else after the one disappeared right over my head but evidently something inside me can't resist . I didn't file a report on the last sighting and this forum is the only place Ive mentioned the sighting in although I was asked in another by a mod to post about it but Im being hesitant because I know it doesn't even sound right having an out of focus object just disappear overhead . Still very puzzled over this one and I wish there would have been another witness like there was the other times before. Im glad Lois saw something similar pryor to this sighting,,, that adds comfort. Thanks for keeping us updated Swamprat !!!
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Post by lois on Oct 6, 2011 19:03:44 GMT -6
After reading this last night I went out with camera in hand ready to capture a photo of this thing and will continue to do so although I live a couple hrs. away, it is still close geographically . I still have mixed emotions as to whether or not I want to see anything else after the one disappeared right over my head but evidently something inside me can't resist . I didn't file a report on the last sighting and this forum is the only place Ive mentioned the sighting in although I was asked in another by a mod to post about it but Im being hesitant because I know it doesn't even sound right having an out of focus object just disappear overhead . Still very puzzled over this one and I wish there would have been another witness like there was the other times before. Im glad Lois saw something similar pryor to this sighting,,, that adds comfort. Thanks for keeping us updated Swamprat !!! Cliff, When I read swamprat's post I went out last night my self. We have turned warm again.. I cannot tolerate cold rain like we been having so much of. We have about 8 days straight of nice weather. It may be the last chance I get. Auntym just put a post on here with a ufo which took place in Chicago . A green glowing ufos.. That is even closer to me Let us know if you seen any of those multible lights.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 21:05:23 GMT -6
Ok here goes. I'm telling you about this, and if any of you know me from the m forum, you already have an idea where I live. Tuesday evening (Oct. 4) I drove from Kansas City, through Lees Summit, to Blue Springs. I saw the "UFO" at 8:30 p.m. while driving, and spent some considerable time on the internet after I got home to try and find what I saw as an IFO. I drive this route every day; sometimes twice a day. On the part of the hiway (I can also take back-country roads) that goes through Lee's Summit is a small, fairly private airport. Lee's Summit is a suburb of Kansas City that continues to grow. Anyway, small aircraft take off and land from this airport day and night. The hiway always has traffic, and frequent accidents, with quick response teams. Last year my fuel pump went out and I made it onto an exit ramp within one mile of this airport. Within 15 min. time I had both a emergency vehicle and a policeman come by to check on me (?). I was just sitting in my car with the windows rolled up waiting for my dad. I had gotten out of the car briefly to get my coveralls out of the trunk (?). What I saw was so large, I did assume other drivers, etc. saw it. The "UFO" was SO obvious that I was telling myself it was a military vehicle and smiling to myself, and then it turned itself completely vertical...It looked like a large plane from the side view, with a red light and white "landing" lights. It was traveling north to south away from the airport, but descending, and I see this often as small planes do a large circle before they go to land. Directly above the exit ramp of ____________ it turned to face the airport, and then turned directly onto its side, bottom facing me. I told myself to count the lights but I now was having some difficulty staying "focused". There was at least 15 lights in a triangle shape (and I did glance at my car clock) and again, I told myself it was military because the point of the triangle looked like it had a "nose" or cockpit like a plane instead of what APPEARED like a triangle. It moved way too slow for its size, and after it became vertical I deliberately looked away, but I was looking to my left as it became horizontal again and it continued to the airport. The last time I saw it, because it was now at the airport behind me, it was hovering and had changed its light "system". The lights were all now white, and it was doing a "system" where the lights are on continuously but a "pulse" of light is also going down the row, blink bright, then go down the row again, and if I didn't have to be somewhere I would have liked to turn around, park the car, and watch . I was unafraid. I felt like someone was "showing off", and I did have the urge to go back by there last night. I was going to tell my kids about it, as they know I've seen some oddities with traveling this road so much, but for some reason I didn't. When I got home it also crossed my mind to drive back to the airport...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 22:10:21 GMT -6
I was telling kelly and my daughter about the sighting in K.C. and my daughter said " this wasn't tuesday night was it?". She was coming back from springfield ,Mo. headed northbound on 13 hwy. and she saw this object and pulled over. I'm going to turn the keyboard over to her now to describe this object . ----On my way back from school at approx. 11:00 pm I saw something very bright in the sky coming near me which is what caught my eye , and bout half a mile down the highway I pulled over and put my hazard lights on ( because I was on hwy 13) and looked overhead at this object. The object appeared to still or not moving in the air at this point and was triangle shaped and looked like it has headlights and blue and white lights all around the sides of the object. I thought I was turning out like my dad so I got in the car and left. lol------ This is Cliff again,,,funny she's turning out like her dad,lol. There is an airport in Springfield and jets do fly from that direction to the airport but she said this wasn't a jet. She was coming back from Springfield that night because she attends college there on tuesday nights. Interesting Jc , I use to travel up in that area everyday when I worked for the Carpenters District Council .
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Post by lois on Oct 6, 2011 22:14:16 GMT -6
How far is it from Springfield to Kansas City Cliff? I never made it to Kansas City when we lived there . I made it to Jefferson a few times..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2011 22:22:09 GMT -6
How far is it from Springfield to Kansas City Cliff? I never made it to Kansas City when we lived there . I made it to Jefferson a few times.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I live a bit north of Springfield so to K.C. from my destination is approximately 120 miles. I use to drive it everyday, work building structures, and drive back,,,piece of cake . ;D
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Post by skywalker on Oct 6, 2011 22:55:39 GMT -6
Here's a news report about the recent sightings in Kansas City.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 6, 2011 23:05:14 GMT -6
Ok here goes. I'm telling you about this, and if any of you know me from the m forum, you already have an idea where I live. Tuesday evening (Oct. 4) I drove from Kansas City, through Lees Summit, to Blue Springs. I saw the "UFO" at 8:30 p.m. while driving, and spent some considerable time on the internet after I got home to try and find what I saw as an IFO. I drive this route every day; sometimes twice a day. On the part of the hiway (I can also take back-country roads) that goes through Lee's Summit is a small, fairly private airport. Lee's Summit is a suburb of Kansas City that continues to grow. Anyway, small aircraft take off and land from this airport day and night. The hiway always has traffic, and frequent accidents, with quick response teams. Last year my fuel pump went out and I made it onto an exit ramp within one mile of this airport. Within 15 min. time I had both a emergency vehicle and a policeman come by to check on me (?). I was just sitting in my car with the windows rolled up waiting for my dad. I had gotten out of the car briefly to get my coveralls out of the trunk (?). What I saw was so large, I did assume other drivers, etc. saw it. The "UFO" was SO obvious that I was telling myself it was a military vehicle and smiling to myself, and then it turned itself completely vertical...It looked like a large plane from the side view, with a red light and white "landing" lights. It was traveling north to south away from the airport, but descending, and I see this often as small planes do a large circle before they go to land. Directly above the exit ramp of ____________ it turned to face the airport, and then turned directly onto its side, bottom facing me. I told myself to count the lights but I now was having some difficulty staying "focused". There was at least 15 lights in a triangle shape (and I did glance at my car clock) and again, I told myself it was military because the point of the triangle looked like it had a "nose" or cockpit like a plane instead of what APPEARED like a triangle. It moved way too slow for its size, and after it became vertical I deliberately looked away, but I was looking to my left as it became horizontal again and it continued to the airport. The last time I saw it, because it was now at the airport behind me, it was hovering and had changed its light "system". The lights were all now white, and it was doing a "system" where the lights are on continuously but a "pulse" of light is also going down the row, blink bright, then go down the row again, and if I didn't have to be somewhere I would have liked to turn around, park the car, and watch . I was unafraid. I felt like someone was "showing off", and I did have the urge to go back by there last night. I was going to tell my kids about it, as they know I've seen some oddities with traveling this road so much, but for some reason I didn't. When I got home it also crossed my mind to drive back to the airport... That's cool that you saw the thing, JC. I think it is always best to try to get info firsthand...what do you think it was?
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Post by swamprat on Oct 7, 2011 15:33:41 GMT -6
OK, fine. I just have two questions:
1. These types of airplanes are not silent by any means; why so many reports indicating dead silence?
2. They've been practicing and doing this all over this area for two freakin' years; why the sudden flap of reports?KC UFO Explained
Civilian Flight Team: We are the aliens in the skySarah Clark wdafFox4 8:49 a.m. CDT, October 7, 2011 LEE'S SUMMIT, Mo. The mystery of Kansas City's UFO lights has been explained.KC Flight, a civilian air formation team out of Lee's Summit, Missouri, has come forward and said they're the "aliens" in the sky. Pilot Phillip Lamb said his eight-man team is to blame. "We've been watching that on Mufon, or whatever that UFO website is, and just cracking up," Lamb said. For two years, Lamb and his team have been flying at night, practicing night formations that they perform before area high school football games."We try and time it right and fly over after the National Anthem like they do in the NFL," Lamb said. Lamb said his team practices at night because the city lights illuminate the planes, and because the planes are in such close proximity, seeing each another is vital. "We're not out sight seeing," Lamb said. "We're not looking at the ground, we're looking at each other." Lamb said after his team learned of the conspiracy theories floating around Kansas City, he wanted to clear up any confusion. The planes Lamb and his team flies are home-built experimental aircraft designed by Vans Aircraft with a wing span of approximately 24 feet. Lamb said during their flights, the planes' wings are typically three feet apart and are stacked approximately three to four feet above or below each other, causing the planes to appear like a single object from the ground. Lamb said KC Flight is based out of Lee's Summit and is the largest civilian formation team in the area. They have performed for Johnson County Airport, Kansas City's downtown airport, the City of Grandview, Blue Springs High School, and numerous others. www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-kansas-city-ufo-lights-civilian-flight-team-says-theyre-the-aliens-in-the-sky-20111007,0,6265687.story
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2011 22:49:46 GMT -6
"...what do you think it was? " Thank you for the vid from Kansas City news, skywalker. What the gentleman drew on the white board is not what I saw. Also, I have also seen what is described as only an orange light in the sky on this same hiway route. The orange light does not maneuver (for me). It just randomly shows up and then blinks off . From where I start my hiway travel to the exit ramp where the "plane" turned vertical is exactly 18 miles. This distance (including entering the hiway) takes 10-15 minutes at the most; depending on traffic. So my visual on this event was most likely less than 5 minutes. The "plane" moved fairly quickly from north to south at a low altitude. When it became vertical it held still in that position and did not fly higher, as it should have in that position. As I said, it looked like a triangle from the bottom, esp. with its light formation, but I felt like I saw the outline of a fighter plane inside the "dark triangle" shape. The nose, or cockpit of the "plane" appeared kind of "bulbous", so to me it stood out as the front of the triangle. Again, it moved quickly to the other side of the airport, but was definitely at a stand still hovering, with just the white light display. Except for the way it flew, and the extra "shadow/shape" of a triangle around it, it could have been an F-14 tomcat . of course there was no noise. It is difficult to hear small planes anyway somedays... First of all, I am one of those people who wonder why a true ufo would need any lights, as compared to why we show lights. Unless the vehicle is actually like a 'being" in itself, and its lights are for attracting... secondly, I believe we humans have technology that is still secret. Generally, if you look at our homes, things haven't changed much in a long time. The technology we are aware of is gadget/consumer friendly. It has advanced a lot. But I have a hard time believing that the primary focus has been gaming and convenience, regardless of the profit. If we can develop things like the hadron collider, for example, there should be alternate energy resources available, and planes that seem to defy the norm . I think "planes" are very important; as we have to be able to "chase" or possibly elude these so-called visitors to our planet. I think this "plane" was one of ours. Most likely we are checking into the reports of UFOs in the area lately.
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Post by lois on Oct 7, 2011 23:42:33 GMT -6
Swamprat.. The lights hover, how can a hovering light be a plane.. ? Some one always tries to debunk. I think the government runs whoever he or she is. such as Lamb.. but sure he flies planes, that is why they picked him..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 2:54:31 GMT -6
Steve, you're amazing. I can't believe MUFON let you go... too bad. Their loss. ~hugz~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 7:21:03 GMT -6
A cropduster over Merced,,,cool . I use to live there. Back in that day it was a small town, not sure now. I also lived in Turlock and was born in Modesto. I havent been there since the age of 15. I have ALOT of family in that area. I'm going to admit something Im not proud of and It was embarassing sending it to mufon but the investigator wanted it although there wasnt anything that turned out which I had forwarned him . When we witnessed a fleet of glowing objects fly over our home in the upper atmosphere late last year my fiance was trying to video tape it but the only thing that showed up was the outside light and I could hear us talking about what was happening,,,or I should say I could hear me cussing. Not to make excuses, because I normally dont talk that way most of the time and it didnt make out for a very good Christian witness, but my adrenaline was pumping and I said things I shouldn't have. While seeing somewhere between 75- 100+ objects travelling overhead made me and my fiance, as well as her 21 year old son freaked us out and we thought we were being invaded. The same thing happened while fishing and seeing the perseid ufo zigging and zagging,,,, we couldn't get in the car fast enough and again words were said that doesn't ordinarily come out of my mouth that I usually try and refrain from. I can understand to a point what them girls were experiencing but again, I'm not making excuses and it doesn't make it right.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 8, 2011 7:35:50 GMT -6
That's okay, dude. It happens to everybody. Just the other day I was out running through some tall grass when I huge man-eating monster blasted out from under my feet! I instantly filled the air with cusswords hoping that the monster would be so busy covering its ears it wouldn't be able to put the chomps on me. It turned out to be a rabbit. I think that this recent Kansas City case is a good example of how an investigation should work. Reports are made, people investigate and the case is solved. It's too bad MUFON didn't do it. Maybe if they had left the video on the website some ordinary citizens would have solved it for them sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 8:32:39 GMT -6
That's okay, dude. It happens to everybody. Just the other day I was out running through some tall grass when I huge man-eating monster blasted out from under my feet! I instantly filled the air with cusswords hoping that the monster would be so busy covering its ears it wouldn't be able to put the chomps on me. It turned out to be a rabbit. ........................................................................................................................ ;D............... ;D..................laughing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,still laughing,,,,,,,,,,,,, ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 9:47:19 GMT -6
Can I be a little mad that people STILL think I live in Kansas?? I live in Missouri. The first time my cousin took me to the beach (not my first beach visit) with his friends, they were asking me how often I saw cows. There are two cities called "Kansas City"..... Officially, I don't know if Kansas has more cows than Missouri these days . I could prolly find out. I stand by what I described (except if someone misunderstood what I said about the noise; I was being sarcastic). I was traveling in a "straight line" towards the "plane", so I understand I could appear as hovering from their vantage . This airport is really tiny, IMO. This daily route takes me 30 MINUTES, and I mentioned 3 cities I touch. There is a stretch of hiway that is almost parallel to this airport. I see a lot of small planes "lollygagging" in the area, but not hovering. Lights hovering are usually helicopters checking out traffic, and we have more than one hospital nearby. Oh, skywalker, why do you run through tall grass? Sounds pretty "itchy", besides the critters...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 12:20:36 GMT -6
Sky: You should have had Jimmy Carter's rowboat paddle with you. ;D
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Post by swamprat on Oct 8, 2011 14:38:22 GMT -6
Some Kansas City UFO sightings identified; others remain unknownRoger Marsh UFO Examiner October 7, 2011 The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) Missouri announced October 7, 2011, that some of the objects reported earlier this month were identified as known aircraft - while other cases remain under investigation. The area has been flooded with UFO reports - more than 80 - as part of an intense two-day witness reporting frenzy on October 4 and 5. The statement follows: MUFON Star Team Investigator Stan Seba contacted the 509th Bomber Squadron in Warrensburg, MO. According to the Duty Sergeant, some of the sightings reported were likely B-2s flying during their training missions. The B-2s have the capability of flying for 36 - 52 hours per flight. They do fly in formations and solo during different aspects of their training missions. Missouri MUFON State Director Debbie Ziegelmeyer contacted Bill Gill, who is the Chapter Team Leader of the EAA Flying Team that few out of the Lee's Summit Municipal Airport on October 4. The group was practicing to audition for "night formation flying" for the Kansas City Chiefs. The planes were RV6s thru RV9s, which are kit aircraft with normal required red/green wing lights and white strobe. No flight plan was required to be submitted to the airport prior to take-off due to the size of the aircraft. The flight went as follows: - Six planes took off at 7:40 p.m. - The planes grouped to a delta formation (triangle) and flew at a speed of 150 mph at an altitude of 1200 ft above ground (2200 ft above sea level) - They circled Lees Summit for approx. 12-15 min. - They headed NW towards Arrowhead Stadium, arrived approximately 8:00pm at Arrowhead - The formation circled Arrowhead Stadium for approximately 5 min. - The team landed at Lees Summit Municipal Airport at approximate 8:15-8:20 p.m. in pairs - They did fly over Raytown - The planes returned to the airport traveling over 1-70 highway East. - They broke formation to land into groups of two Missouri MUFON Assistant State Director Margie Kay spoke to John Ohrazda at the Lee's Summit airport, who said that they have been receiving calls about UFOs for the past two weeks, and that many of the sightings remain unexplained. Some callers reported hearing helicopters flying over at 1:30 a.m. but there were no flights out of the airport in Lee's Summit for that time. Some witnesses reported other objects that remain unidentified such as craft with no red or green lights as required by the FAA, craft with no tail or wings, and hovering craft, which are not standard aircraft. MUFON is investigating some of these reports. John also said that the B-2's normally fly in stealth mode with no lights, but as they approach a metropolitan area with air traffic, they will turn their lights on to let other planes know where they are, then turn them off after air traffic is out of the area. This may explain why some of the craft reported to MUFON seemed to disappear. Ohrazda also stated that aircraft must fly at least 1,000 feet above the ground except for take-off and landing in a 3.5 mile radius of the Lee's Summit Airport. Many of the reports filed recently can be explained by the B-2's and EAA Flying Team, however, there still remain many reports that are unexplained. Missouri MUFON has received reports about sightings on October 3, 4, and 5 that are particularly interesting, such as large orange fireballs over Lee's Summit and other areas, and hovering craft with multi-colored lights on the bottom only, or on the bottom and top only. Some have taken off at high speed. MUFON is investigating each case as quickly as possible. Witnesses continue to file reports dating back to August, 2011 in the greater Kansas City area. In the past 90 days Missouri MUFON has received approximately 90-95 UFO reports, with most from the K.C. area. Normally, Missouri MUFON receives seven to ten reports per month. Missouri MUFON volunteer investigators request that witnesses file sighting reports at www.mufon.com instead of calling the Missouri office because they have become overwhelmed with calls. An investigator will contact all witnesses as soon as possible. All contact information is confidential. Note: There will be a flying team over the Chiefs Stadium in Kansas City on October 31, and the 509th Bomber Squadron will be running training missions throughout the month of October in the entire state of Missouri. Continue reading on Examiner.com Some Kansas City UFO sightings identified; others remain unknown - National ufo | Examiner.com www.examiner.com/ufo-in-national/some-kansas-city-ufo-sightings-identified-others-remain-unknown#ixzz1aDzK2IFR
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 19:00:26 GMT -6
Lee's Summit has the following hiways:
I-70 470 350 291
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 19:03:01 GMT -6
Thanks for pointing that out JC... now I'm thoroughly confused... ~heavy sigh~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 19:11:53 GMT -6
"Thanks for pointing that out JC... now I'm thoroughly confused..." Well, like a newspaper, or a book, I hope people are careful about what they say in print. I used to get confused all the time . Especially when people can "edit" what they wrote ....
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Post by auntym on Oct 8, 2011 19:25:52 GMT -6
Sky: You should have had Jimmy Carter's rowboat paddle with you. ;D i remember that story.... ;D .... jimmy carter and the swimming rabbit... i still laugh about that one..... ;D
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Post by Steve on Oct 8, 2011 21:58:43 GMT -6
My sources report 97 reports in Missouri between September 1 to present October 8, 2011. Most reports are coming from the eastern side of Kansas City in Independence, Raytown, and Lees Summit. A few in western St. Louis far to the east, and a few random reports in-between. Most of these in the last two weeks in and around communities surrounding Arrowhead Stadium, as one might expect if the EAA aerobatic team is practicing there at night. But a few of the other reports have unusual aspects to them that suggest more than EAA aircraft or local helicopters. I was able through friends to get data to study the local situation better. I have to take back some of my earlier criticisms, they seem to be hustling in Missouri. Many reports seem to have as Ronrat reports conventional explanations, but like Stephenville, among the noise and confusion, a few cases seem to be considered unknowns. There was one CE-3 that occurred earlier on August 4, 2011, the report is interesting, but the photo does not show much. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 8:24:38 GMT -6
If it actually was a delta formation of planes that I saw, it didn't break up to land at the airport. Why did the crop duster story and pictures get deleted? That was a great example of IFO and how other reports can happen! The general comments like "showing off" being a clue, are very helpful! I'll walk off from anyone who uses a bad example to go on to tell me about something they did. I can't afford to compare myself to others, including appearances. All I can do is be myself; shortcomings and all. That is my "soapbox" . But now, a guest looking at this thread at pages 7-8 may be confused due to complete deletion of postings. Couldn't the negative comments about other people have been deleted (or edited) only?
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