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Post by paulette on Feb 21, 2011 12:06:07 GMT -6
Me too.
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Post by Steve on Mar 2, 2011 22:56:37 GMT -6
The Investigation has changed directions, or rather fragmented into two parallel ones. As the two families living close by have now moved apart, one to a new address.
The one family at their permanent address have since continued to have possible high strangeness events. The latest being Sunday, February 27, 2011 around 02:30 hours local standard time.
The lights described are consistently the same, and usually first appearing from the same meadow surrounded by tall trees about 100 yards away from the witnesses home.
I have edited the latest message to not disclose certain clues that might reveal the experiencers advocation - and from that -their possible identities. But everything else is in their own words.
The other family which I remain in contact with too, have not reported any unusual experiences lately. So whatever maybe occurring, the phenomenon has shifted it's attention toward the one family now - the focus of the investigation at present.
From reading this latest email, what I find very interesting is that the phenomenon - whatever it is - seems to have not anticipated the witness being outside. The witness observing what was happening from a different and unusual location on her property at that unusual hour. Being in a secure location, bundled up, watching over one of her sick animals.
The 'lights' first went to her house, and parked (the orb like light) next to her bedroom window having moved along that same familiar fence. The witness then noticed the lights had shifted, reappearing 10 minutes later....perhaps only then acquiring her location only then perhaps? Then comes as the witness suspects, but we cannot confirm further....a light, and a possible missing time experience.
Perhaps some advanced thing is being witnessed - but whatever it is...it is not perhaps all knowing and seeing. Isn't that interesting.
They seemed to go first to where they expected her to be, and found her bedroom empty (her husband was sleeping in their bedroom...but not her). She was about 50 to 60 yards away. The witness perhaps spotting 'them' before they spotted her perhaps? That would be a nice turn for a change! If my interpretation of her description of events were true...what does that tell us possibly about the phenomenon and the means in how they locate whoever they are interested in?
Steve
I WAS WAS WATCHING OVER SICK LIVE STOCK AND ABOUT 2:30 IN THE AM I NOTICED THE LIGHTS IN MY HOUSE WERE OUT AND THINKING HUSBAND HAD FINALLY WENT TO SLEEP WHEN THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON INSIDE AND AS I WATCHED THERE WAS A ROUND CIRCLE BRIGHT LIGHT ABOUT AS LARGE AS A DINNER PLATE BUT I WAS AT LEAST 150 FEET AWAY FROM THIS OBJECT IT MOVED ALONG THE SIDE OF THE FENCE OVER BY MY BEDROOM WINDOW. IT WENT AWAY AND THEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT. IT WAS SOOOO COLD AS I WAS WRAPPED UP IN A QUILT SITTING NEXT TO MY ANIMAL IN A SORT OF LOUNGE CHAIR SITTING BACK TRYING TO GET IN A COMFORTABLE POSITION. SHE HAD BEEN REALLY SICK AND I DIDNT WANT HER TO GET COLD SO I WAS MAKING SURE SHE WAS COVERED UP WITH A LARGE BED SPREAD. I COULDN'T SLEEP BECAUSE MY JOB WAS TO MAKE SURE SHE DIDN'T GET OUT FROM UNDER THE BEDSPREAD AND GET COLD. ABOUT 10 MINUTES AFTER THE LIGHT ON THE FENCE "ORB" DISAPPEARED I NOTICED A BLUISH LIGHT COMING FROM THE DIRECTION OF THE MEADOW THE SAME PLACE I FIRST NOTICED THE LIGHTS IN THE SKY ON DEC 8TH 2010 A BLUISH LIGHT BRIGHTENING IN THE SKY I LOOKED FOR A MOMENT.. AS I WATCHED IT I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT ________ HAD RELATED REGARDING THE LIGHTS SHE HAD SEEN. THE NEXT THING I KNEW I WAS AWAKE WITH A JERK. AS I SAT THERE I NOTICED I WAS NO LONGER WRAPPED UP IN THE QUILT I WAS IN BEFORE NOR WAS I IN A RECLINING POSITION BUT I WAS SITTING UP IN THE CHAIR WITH OUT THE QUILT ON MY LEGS OR AROUND MY SHOULDERS OR BODY. I WAS AFRAID I FELT I WAS TAKEN.... THIS IS THE FIRST THOUGHT I HAD WHEN I WOKE AND REALIZED MY LEGS WERE NOT WRAPPED UP.. I LOOKED AT THE CLOCK IT WAS 3:30 AM.
I CHECKED MY LIVE STOCK WHO WAS SLEEPING WITH HER BLANKET SECURE OVER HER AND SHE WAS WARM. THE REST OF THE EVENING I SPENT IN CONTEMPLATION OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED. IN MY HEART I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. ANY WAY HOPE I HAVE DESCRIBED THIS IN DETAIL.
TALK TO YOU LATER
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Post by sansseed on Mar 3, 2011 14:31:17 GMT -6
So, she watched as these lights basically looked for her? Interesting, and yet, a bit discerning. So, they/it don't always know where to find the ones they want? Questions leading to more questions. No wonder experiencers feel like they are pounding their heads against a wall (or maybe that is just me ) This sounds eerily similar to my experience a few weeks ago. I didn't have lights, but there was a noise and the next thing I knew it was two hours later. I assume I had fallen asleep, or my emotional state made me process time differently. There are definitely alternate plausible explanations for my experience, but for some reason it causes and itch at the back of my brain and I cannot shake it.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 4, 2011 17:31:36 GMT -6
Do you think the lights and the entities are connected? Or do you still think there might be different phenomenon involved? i don't see why aliens would go sneaking around looking for people in the wrong places...they have never seemed to have a problem finding them before.
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Post by Steve on Mar 5, 2011 0:19:52 GMT -6
Do you think the lights and the entities are connected? Or do you still think there might be different phenomenon involved? i don't see why aliens would go sneaking around looking for people in the wrong places...they have never seemed to have a problem finding them before. Are the lights and the entities in this case connected? Yes and no. Yes - the entities have appeared at times coinciding during this case's time frame. No - in that the entities & the lights have not been seen associated together at the same time by any of the witnesses yet. The witness observed the lights supposedly before her suspected 'missing time' from a vantage point that no one - even the possible entities here (if that was the case) - would have anticipated. Forgive me, I can't elaborate about the vantage point because it would give away much about the witness, their occupation, and being that this occupation is so unique, it would zero in both the witness and their location. I think if I could disclose that, it would make this case all the more fascinating. I will just write it is an occupation any alien might be curious about too I would think. Certainly unusual. Perhaps one even they might relate to. It might be one important aspect that makes this case unique among many possible abduction cases in general. If I may speculate, if the lights observed were some kind of very advanced technology, perhaps a small 'probe', perhaps plasma energy - whatever intelligence may have been guiding it - it moved to the window based from experience from past visits. These so called white/blue lights appeared by the bedroom window in the past. So too an entity, the one the witness sketched - by the same window. Could the phenomenon be using a infrared heat trace to search? Infrared would indicate to whoever was curious outside the window someone was in the bedroom, but not necessarily indicate the individual identity of the heat source. In this case, the witness's husband sleeping alone in the master bedroom. The witnesses body heat being sought would have blended in among the heat traces of the live stock in a completely different direction 50 yards away. The phenomenon likely already familiar with the livestock from previous visits. Is the witness observing a phenomenon displaying a combination of technology? Emitting energy in a visual wavelength (light), silent to our range of hearing, with an ability of movement to avoid obstacles navigating? Or embarrassingly - over analyzing - is the witness in expecting high strangeness events in reality simply describing an unseen prowler on her property behind a fence shining a flashlight? The witness reported the lights then seemed to disappear for ten minutes before reappearing. Then her impression soon later of a missing time event. Postulating the lights withdrew to regroup and reevaluate, not exposing their presence longer than necessary. They then reappeared ten minutes later, using a new tact in their search, finding the witness. Could the phenomenon be human in origin? Sure. A peeping tom with a flash light? Steve
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Post by skywalker on Mar 5, 2011 10:42:00 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a possibilty that some of the animals may have experienced an abduction event as well as the human witness. Have any of the animals been showing strange or unusual behavior? It might be something to look into.
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Post by sansseed on Mar 5, 2011 15:30:53 GMT -6
Do you think the lights and the entities are connected? Or do you still think there might be different phenomenon involved? i don't see why aliens would go sneaking around looking for people in the wrong places...they have never seemed to have a problem finding them before. Are the lights and the entities in this case connected? Yes and no. Yes - the entities have appeared at times coinciding during this case's time frame. No - in that the entities & the lights have not been seen associated together at the same time by any of the witnesses yet. The witness observed the lights supposedly before her suspected 'missing time' from a vantage point that no one - even the possible entities here (if that was the case) - would have anticipated. Forgive me, I can't elaborate about the vantage point because it would give away much about the witness, their occupation, and being that this occupation is so unique, it would zero in both the witness and their location. I think if I could disclose that, it would make this case all the more fascinating. I will just write it is an occupation any alien might be curious about too I would think. Certainly unusual. Perhaps one even they might relate to. It might be one important aspect that makes this case unique among many possible abduction cases in general. If I may speculate, if the lights observed were some kind of very advanced technology, perhaps a small 'probe', perhaps plasma energy - whatever intelligence may have been guiding it - it moved to the window based from experience from past visits. These so called white/blue lights appeared by the bedroom window in the past. So too an entity, the one the witness sketched - by the same window. Could the phenomenon be using a infrared heat trace to search? Infrared would indicate to whoever was curious outside the window someone was in the bedroom, but not necessarily indicate the individual identity of the heat source. In this case, the witness's husband sleeping alone in the master bedroom. The witnesses body heat being sought would have blended in among the heat traces of the live stock in a completely different direction 50 yards away. The phenomenon likely already familiar with the livestock from previous visits. Is the witness observing a phenomenon displaying a combination of technology? Emitting energy in a visual wavelength (light), silent to our range of hearing, with an ability of movement to avoid obstacles navigating? Or embarrassingly - over analyzing - is the witness in expecting high strangeness events in reality simply describing an unseen prowler on her property behind a fence shining a flashlight? The witness reported the lights then seemed to disappear for ten minutes before reappearing. Then her impression soon later of a missing time event. Postulating the lights withdrew to regroup and reevaluate, not exposing their presence longer than necessary. They then reappeared ten minutes later, using a new tact in their search, finding the witness. Could the phenomenon be human in origin? Sure. A peeping tom with a flash light? Steve These are some interesting thoughts. If this case turns out to be genuine, there might be some interesting data that comes from it.
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Post by Steve on Mar 6, 2011 2:43:12 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a possibilty that some of the animals may have experienced an abduction event as well as the human witness. Have any of the animals been showing strange or unusual behavior? It might be something to look into. I ask that question to the witnesses repeatedly each time we communicate should something new be added to the mix. Apparently not. One of the 20 animals is presently sick, and has been diagnosed with a cyst near this animals ovary's. The witnesses' animals continue to be watched and cared for closely in general, and particularly now for anything unusual too. A reported cattle mutilation occurred on an adjoining ranch property a few years ago. Such stories get around fast in a small town. For that reason, I stress to the witnesses they keep a low profile about what they maybe seeing with their neighbors but keep their ears open in town. A few times weeks earlier the animals which are normally friendly to the witness / owner seemed to be reacted to something as if invisible following behind her (or so she reported). The animals eyes following something unseen. The animals apparently noticing and becoming a little spooked about something nearby. This seems to have subsided presently. Tonight, I spoke with the witnesses daughter who lives in a separate dwelling on the same property. She has noticed that her large window 9 feet off the floor will strangely rattle for about a minute and her porch light will switch on by itself. There is no motion sensor attached to the light's circuit. This activity has occurred repeatedly regularly every third night around between 1 am to 2 am (01:00 to 02:00 hours) . Duration of the window rattle is about a minute. I asked if anything conventional might be causing this. Nothing around like railroad tracks or such. It only effects this one window in her bedroom high up near the ceiling. I asked carefully not to be leading....which way this particular window faces. Not to my surprise, she said the window faces to the east. I asked - in the direction of the meadow where the blue-white lights always seem to appear? The daughter remarked 'why yes'! There is something strange going on in this isolated valley where all this is occurring. Some kind of vortex? When the windows are expected to rattle again (tonight), the witness is going to have a compass next to her bed. I asked if the rattling and the lights start again, to check if the compass reacts differently from the usual magnetic North. I asked also if this could be the work of prowlers poking around? The witnesses all seem to not think this. The witnesses have several watch dogs on the property, and they usually make quite a commotion should a stranger enter this area. So at the same time, whatever is happening, the lights and the entity seen seem to not create a reaction from these dogs. If a genuine case, any entity by now would likely be well experienced at handling watch dogs. Probably the same means (beaming Delta waves?) that makes the husband not wake up to see what the wife only seems to experience. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 4:06:10 GMT -6
The compass is a very good idea I think Steve. You're a genius! ;D
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Post by Steve on Mar 6, 2011 12:02:03 GMT -6
I thought the compass might serve as a crude magnetometer to detect early signs of a magnetic anomaly during those strange happenings.
Steve
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Post by lois on Mar 6, 2011 14:57:47 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a possibilty that some of the animals may have experienced an abduction event as well as the human witness. Have any of the animals been showing strange or unusual behavior? It might be something to look into. I ask that question to the witnesses repeatedly each time we communicate should something new be added to the mix. Apparently not. One of the 20 animals is presently sick, and has been diagnosed with a cyst near this animals ovary's. The witnesses' animals continue to be watched and cared for closely in general, and particularly now for anything unusual too. A reported cattle mutilation occurred on an adjoining ranch property a few years ago. Such stories get around fast in a small town. For that reason, I stress to the witnesses they keep a low profile about what they maybe seeing with their neighbors but keep their ears open in town. A few times weeks earlier the animals which are normally friendly to the witness / owner seemed to be reacted to something as if invisible following behind her (or so she reported). The animals eyes following something unseen. The animals apparently noticing and becoming a little spooked about something nearby. This seems to have subsided presently. Tonight, I spoke with the witnesses daughter who lives in a separate dwelling on the same property. She has noticed that her large window 9 feet off the floor will strangely rattle for about a minute and her porch light will switch on by itself. There is no motion sensor attached to the light's circuit. This activity has occurred repeatedly regularly every third night around between 1 am to 2 am (01:00 to 02:00 hours) . Duration of the window rattle is about a minute. I asked if anything conventional might be causing this. Nothing around like railroad tracks or such. It only effects this one window in her bedroom high up near the ceiling. I asked carefully not to be leading....which way this particular window faces. Not to my surprise, she said the window faces to the east. I asked - in the direction of the meadow where the blue-white lights always seem to appear? The daughter remarked 'why yes'! There is something strange going on in this isolated valley where all this is occurring. Some kind of vortex? When the windows are expected to rattle again (tonight), the witness is going to have a compass next to her bed. I asked if the rattling and the lights start again, to check if the compass reacts differently from the usual magnetic North. I asked also if this could be the work of prowlers poking around? The witnesses all seem to not think this. The witnesses have several watch dogs on the property, and they usually make quite a commotion should a stranger enter this area. So at the same time, whatever is happening, the lights and the entity seen seem to not create a reaction from these dogs. If a genuine case, any entity by now would likely be well experienced at handling watch dogs. Probably the same means (beaming Delta waves?) that makes the husband not wake up to see what the wife only seems to experience. Steve Ron Spotless said his dog was taken with him. He seen him on board the craft..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 15:28:21 GMT -6
Yea... he told me that too Lois, but he said not to tell anyone... shhhh.... LOL...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 6, 2011 20:56:09 GMT -6
Maybe we should hypnotise the dog.
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Post by lois on Mar 6, 2011 22:55:37 GMT -6
Oh Ron won't mind, he has told it to all Mufon forum members many times. He sure loves his dog.. By thinks he has posted and pm me about.
Steve.. we will have to ask Ron if his dog could be regressed.. lol .. lol Ron never has himself, unless he is not telling it..
Lois
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Post by lois on Mar 6, 2011 22:57:47 GMT -6
Sky .. that last remark was for you not steve.. ;D
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Post by Steve on Mar 7, 2011 19:53:00 GMT -6
Ron has related to me several times both in writing and over the phone about his dog being taken along with him during his abduction experiences. If I remember Ron's account accurately, they were not too nice to his dog. Ron's dog was dissected before his eyes (for the dog's sake, hope I'm wrong about that part). Yet, Ron's faithful companion accompanies him today. Nightmare? Ron is most welcome to inject here. There have been a number of alien abductions were dogs were present with the experiencers when they were taken. (golly gee...sleep paralysis for dogs now too?...lol) The abduction experience I investigated which occurred in May 2009 - a married couple on a camping / gold prospecting trip had two small Brussels Griffon dogs accompanying them (see dog in movie 'As Good as it Gets' w/ Jack Nicholson) . However, all indications seem to show the two small dogs were fast asleep the whole time back in the tent while the couples experience allegedly occurred. In the famous 1961 Barney and Betty Hill case, - the Hill's dachshund was in the backseat of their Chevy when the aliens approached their car, and was still there scared under the car seat when the Hills came out of their missing time period miles down the road driving home. Later, while Barney worked nights at the Post Office - Betty alone at home evenings would sometimes scold the dog when it would often bark at a full moon. I had an entity case I assigned to a field investigator once in Rocklin, California - which I followed with interest. The witness (male) stepped out in his back yard to smoke a cigarette at 2 am. He had his 60 lb's pitbull dog with him. Facing away, he sensed he was being watched, he turned around, and saw a dark figure crouched down in the corner of his yard near a back garage door. When he noticed, the figure reared up and stood facing him. The most interesting fact about this case was the man noticed the entity BEFORE the dog did. It spread what appeared to be large wings, and floated over to 'perch' on top of his fence. While this whatever it was hovered in the air - the dog charged, leaping and snapping into the air at the 'man with the large wings'. It then hopped back-wards off the fence - into the adjoining school yard and disappeared. The man was very shaken. A Mothman? 'Monster Quest' twice contacted me and the investigator I assigned wishing to do a show about this case. We refused both times in the interests of the witness. Dogs in a case can sometimes give insights with their heightened senses of hearing, smell, and protecting instincts. Steve
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Post by sansseed on Mar 7, 2011 20:34:46 GMT -6
I always say that my dog is my barometer to what is going around me. If she is calm and napping, then I know there is nothing to worry about (maybe wrongly so, but it makes me feel better). If she is tense and alert, I raise my awareness. She is my eyes and ears to those things beyond my own senses.
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Post by Steve on Mar 7, 2011 21:09:28 GMT -6
I always say that my dog is my barometer to what is going around me. If she is calm and napping, then I know there is nothing to worry about (maybe wrongly so, but it makes me feel better). If she is tense and alert, I raise my awareness. She is my eyes and ears to those things beyond my own sen 8-)ses. Thats beautiful. Steve
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Post by lois on Mar 7, 2011 21:36:45 GMT -6
My husband and I do not have a pet now. We did most our lives. One dog we had would always alarm us even if it was the neighbor getting out of his car at night.. They are true to their masters that is for sure.. and protect them. All this talk is going to make me want a new doggie now.
Steve...Thank you! the cases with dogs, I really never thought about it till I met Ron.. . what kind of dog does Ron own or have is a better word. I heard it bark once on the phone when I was talking to Ron.. He never mention that they dissected his dog, how terrible for him and his pet..
He has memories of the event. something like this makes it worth not knowing.
shamira
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Post by Steve on Mar 8, 2011 19:33:30 GMT -6
You will have to contact Ron about what kind of dog he has Lois.
I think a new dog now for you would be wonderful. I sense in your above post this feeling I get it would be great for you right now. As a name suggestion - how about 'Astro'? (the Jetsons)
Recall Ron's dog wasn't very big. Not my intention to question Ron's account - but....well..yes..I am respectfully questioning one thing at least.....
Wouldn't you think his dog would show some kind of marks or scars from his alleged experience?
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2011 19:55:23 GMT -6
I think he has a jack russel terrier... but I could be mistaken...
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Post by skywalker on Mar 8, 2011 20:26:11 GMT -6
Maybe they replaced the dog with a clone.
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Post by lois on Mar 8, 2011 23:06:29 GMT -6
NOW SKY.. that is sicko.. and mean..
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Post by lois on Mar 8, 2011 23:08:53 GMT -6
sky don't say that to Ron, he would freak out for sure, he looks at that dog all day long.. Did you see stivers joke about Ron I posted, the dog is under the table and has eat all the alien up but his bones.. guess hew was getting even..
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Post by Steve on Mar 9, 2011 0:41:49 GMT -6
This is a funny turn...
Steve
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Post by lois on Mar 9, 2011 15:18:40 GMT -6
Steve this is a new thought for me. I hardly have any new ones after all these years of searching ufos.. Dogs....or pets... huuuuuuuuummmmmmm
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Post by mdaisy on Mar 9, 2011 22:13:16 GMT -6
As far as I know none of my critters have been affected. I can just see my cats though...I'm sure they would not be amused...hehehehe
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Post by lois on Mar 9, 2011 22:32:17 GMT -6
Hi mdaisy. sooooooo glad to see you here, the family is getting there little by little.. welcome
shamira.. lois
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Post by lois on Mar 9, 2011 22:44:36 GMT -6
Has anyone heard from Harmony lately, I have not seen her post.. hope she is well.
lois
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Post by skywalker on Mar 10, 2011 10:45:18 GMT -6
She still comes on every now and then but doesn't post much. I think she is in school right now so she doesn't have much time.
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