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Post by auntym on Mar 22, 2012 12:06:42 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/article/%E2%80%9Cbreakaway-civilization%E2%80%9D-behind-mysterious-secret-space-program Is A “Breakaway Civilization” Behind The Mysterious Secret Space Program?[/color] Thu, 03/22/2012 By Sean Casteel It has long been theorized that there exists a secret space program, an enormously complex program to conquer the nearby solar system with manmade spaceships that have been hidden from public view perhaps since the late 19th century. Timothy Beckley, the editor of “The Conspiracy Journal” and the Global Communications publisher, has recently released a new book called “The Secret Space Program: Who Is Responsible?” that covers this arcane subject most thoroughly. The book is coauthored by Beckley, Tim R. Swartz, Commander X, and myself, and includes the full text of a book I coauthored with Swartz ten years ago called “Nikola Tesla, Journey To Mars.” But let’s look first at the newer material. “The Secret Space Program” begins with an interview with Richard Dolan, the author of “UFOs And The National Security State,” Volumes I and II. Dolan’s conservatism of approach is well known in the UFO community, and has kept his research credible after many years of close scrutiny. He is not a wild-eyed contactee or fringe believer, but is instead a scholarly historian of the UFO cover-up with many contacts within the intelligence and military communities. Dolan told us why he believes the rumored secret space program really does exist, saying, “I think that there are a number of anomalous events we know have occurred in Earth orbit and beyond Earth orbit. We’ve got 40 years of events recorded by US and Soviet astronauts of objects in orbit that appear to be not our own that seemed to move intelligently. We have the evidence of what’s known as DSP satellites – that’s Defense Support Program satellites. These are a series of geosynchronous satellites in Earth orbit that have a long record of tracking ‘fast-walkers’ in space. That is, objects that are like a space UFO.” Astronaut Edgar Mitchell and researcher Richard Dolan, who believes a "breakaway civilization" may exist. According to Dolan, there have been nearly 300 such anomalous events recorded by the DSP satellites in the years 1973 to 1991. “It would seem to me very logical,” Dolan continued, “that just as there would be a covert monitoring of the UFO phenomenon within Earth’s atmosphere and on the ground and so forth, if there are anomalous activities going on in space, then clearly you would want an agency to monitor that as well, to deal with it. And that would necessitate the creation of a very clandestine component to the US space program.” The normally staid Dolan also allows for the possibility of there being an alien and/or human presence on the dark side of the moon that is concealed from public view. The information comes from leaks within the military world that, while not “airtight,” are nonetheless credible. “You get the claim quite a few times,” Dolan said, “of NASA airbrushing and doctoring moon photographs. Again, these are claims, but I look at a number of these claims and they strike me as sincere individuals, and, frankly, I have no reason to doubt what they’re saying. So that makes me think there’s more funny business going on. They’re hiding something important about space.” Even Mars is a possible location for artificial structures of some kind, according to Dolan, though he does not lend credence to reports from people who claim to have actually been there. Recovered UFO technology also fits into the mix. “It makes perfect sense to me,” he explained, “when you look at the history of apparent UFO crashes and recoveries, and there are a number I think there are good cases for, you have to assume that the national security apparatus isn’t going to be just sitting on their hands looking at this technology forever. Of course they’re going to try to study it and obviously to replicate it. How could they not?” So that allows 40 to 50 years, Dolan continued, with a lot of black budget money and secrecy, in which a classified reverse-engineering group could work. “And if you’ve had any success with it,” Dolan said, “it’s not something you can share with the world. Yet it would be something that would come in very handy for covert missions beyond Earth’s orbit, i.e., a secret space program.” Dolan also described something he calls a “breakaway civilization,” or a secret group with technological knowledge light years beyond the everyday world. “I think this is something that is real,” Dolan said. “Now, my theory of it is that it originated in really in post-World War II society, but there’s nothing preventing such a thing from having happened earlier. The basic idea of the ‘breakaway civilization’ is simply that you have a secret group, a classified group of people, with access to radically advanced technology, radically advanced science, and they just don’t share it with the rest of the world. One scientific breakthrough leads to another, and that leads to another and so on. So the next thing you know, you’ve got a separate group of humanity that is vastly far beyond the rest of the world.” CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/%E2%80%9Cbreakaway-civilization%E2%80%9D-behind-mysterious-secret-space-program
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Post by auntym on Mar 22, 2012 12:08:21 GMT -6
i believe this!
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Post by sansseed on Mar 22, 2012 16:42:12 GMT -6
Interesting, and certainly not out the realm of possibility. The concern is having knowledg, which leads to power, centered on a few.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 1:27:04 GMT -6
I would want a lot more input before I believed it out of hand but he sure makes a strong case for it. I do know that we've sent up enough shuttles to carry materials for projects. Very well kept secret if so.
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Post by paulette on Mar 23, 2012 9:14:18 GMT -6
There isn't a lot of updates about the "Death Stars" either - those satellites that have a more sinister role than people doing experiments and mugging for the camera. If IT ever started - we wouldn't survive the day. Any of us. Anywhere. Including under mountains...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 13:36:51 GMT -6
Dying doesn't bother me..I figure when it's my time it just is..but while I'm alive I'd like to enjoy some quality of existence and maybe even a few answers. I'm guessing that after the fact, I'll either have all the answers or they won't matter ;D
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Post by charles on Mar 23, 2012 14:11:14 GMT -6
Hi all!
My take on this is that there could well be a shred of truth in what's been reported, but not all of it rings that well for me. I am sure there is more going on off this planet than we're ever told about - and to some degree, rightly so. I will not be surprised if it turns out that we already have a base/colony on the moon and have done for the last 40 odd years or so. I, for some reason, just don't believe that there was such a high level of technological & scientific advancement in the 1800's to manufacture space faring vehicles. The way I see it is that if that were possible at that time, then it would have filtered out into the scientific/technological communities and they would have reached technological & scientific advances sooner than they have because although there may have been secrets between countries/governments appertaining to areas such as weapon development, there was not the ultra high level of secrecy that we would think of today involved in R&D (i.e. The Manhattan Project), more a case (I suspect) of who could patent the quickest firing pistol/machine gun/cannon etc. which, in my opinion, was probably pretty evenly spaced between manufacturers throughout the world.
And Jo, I'm with you on a part of this - death holds no fear for me. Sadness at what I will leave behind, definitely, but when I go, I go ;D !!! Just so long as the birds sing, my wife & children are pains in my butt, the sky is blue, I can keep in touch with you all and I can still play with my trains, then life must be pretty good ;D ;D ;D !!
Okay, I'm done for now!!! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2012 0:13:58 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Jul 8, 2017 10:40:49 GMT -6
alien-ufo-sightings.com/2017/05/breakaway-civilization-behind-mysterious-secret-space-program/ Is A “Breakaway Civilization” Behind The Mysterious Secret Space Program?May 26, 2017 Richard Dolan author of, UFOs and the National Security State 1&2, and A.D. After Disclosure, came up with the term Breakaway Civilization to describe a separately evolving covert, technically advanced community of people with trillions of dollars of resources siphoned off from our host society. This very autocratic, even fascist elite society uses fear, greed and intimidation even murder, to remain invisible to its host society all under the guise of National Security. Anything that relates to this Breakaway Civilization is classified Top Secret or above with access by need to know and Special Access Programs (SAPS). While much of the Breakaway Civilization is centered in the United States it has integrated itself into allied governments around the globe. It is what President Eisenhower called the Military-Industrial complex in his farewell speech, just before leaving office, warning that it was breaking away from constitutional controls. If a person really thinks about it, Special Access on a need to know basis, is how the plantation slave owner controlled his slaves, educating them just enough to do their jobs but no more. To educate them further than need to know would invite rebellion. The old plantation system promoted igannance among slaves in tandem with methods of control based on fear, intimidation and reward. I think the New World Order (NWO) as envisioned by the Elite Military-Industrial Complex Globalists is no more than a more sophisticated version of old feudal society reintroduced into the modern age. The NWO’s wage slaves are not controlled by the whip or the withholding of food as in the past, but through the creation and control of paper money and the mass media. Money is created and distributed through private central banks disguised as Federal, in almost every country of the world. Paul Hellyer the Ex-Defense Minister of Canada gave a very good speech called Global Fraud, Global Hope that explains sophisticated mechanism of control and even slips a little ET information into the mix as well. CONTINUE READING: alien-ufo-sightings.com/2017/05/breakaway-civilization-behind-mysterious-secret-space-program/
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Post by auntym on Jul 8, 2017 11:24:19 GMT -6
www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/politics/space-corps-bill-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN070717space-corps-bill-trnd0950PMStory A proposed new military branch would send US troops to guard the galaxyBy Nancy Coleman, CNN Sat July 8, 2017 (CNN)The year: 2019. The mission: Send combat forces into space to save the world from potential Star Wars. The crew to get the job done: the United States Space Corps. A Congressional committee is proposing that the US armed forces add a new military branch that would, quite literally, send soldiers out of this world. The crew of real-life Buzz Lightyears is described in the National Defense Authorization Act, which is now headed to the full House for a vote. There isn't usually anything extraordinary about the NDAA, which every year lays out military spending. But this time, the House Armed Services Committee voted 60 to 1 in favor of a bill that would, among many other things, create the first new branch of the armed forces since the Air Force's founding in 1947. Among the Space Corps' official duties, as established in the bill, would be "providing combat-ready space forces that enable the commanders of the combatant commands to fight and win wars." The Space Corps would fall under the Air Force in the same way the Marine Corps does the Navy. The chief of staff of the Space Corps, a presidential appointee with a six-year term, would be on equal footing with the Air Force's chief of staff. Both would report to the Secretary of the Air Force. So far, there's just one main problem with the proposal: Neither the Air Force's secretary nor its chief of staff are thrilled with separating America's own "Guardians of the Galaxy" from the rest of the armed forces. "I've been shocked by the response by the Air Force leadership," Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Alabama, said during a June 22 committee hearing. The congressman chairs the subcommittee that wrote the Space Corps into the legislation. Senior Air Force officials see the proposed corps as an unnecessary change in the force's existing space efforts. (The Space Corps wouldn't exactly be boldly going where no man has gone before. The Air Force Space Command has been working toward that since 1982.) "This will make it more complex, add more boxes to the organizational chart, and cost more money," Secretary Heather Wilson told reporters June 21. There are still plenty more congressional hoops for the Space Corps to jump through before it would become official. But, hey, at least the name sounds cool. WATCH VIDEO: www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/politics/space-corps-bill-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN070717space-corps-bill-trnd0950PMStory
US military prepares for the next frontier: Space war: www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/politics/space-war-us-military-preparations/index.html
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Post by jcurio on Jul 8, 2017 21:50:21 GMT -6
Not surprised at all.
But a "little leary" if the year is correct. About the same time that I was having "accurate dreams" about things like that September in new york, and the first of american reporters blatantly killed, (well, not really any firsts), the year 2019 kept "showing up". Still do not know what it means.....
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Post by jcurio on Jul 8, 2017 21:55:42 GMT -6
But "space corps"?
Very real to me. One of my first "remembered dreams" after becoming "enlightened". 😊 (Around 2007).
Stands out a LOT when most of your dreams seem past-related. Could only figure it for the future..... and was obviously involving humans. 😉
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Post by auntym on Jul 9, 2017 12:49:57 GMT -6
i thought your post was more of a science experiment than what i was posting about...and since we didn't have a thread labeled 'science experiments'...i created one and moved your post to it...
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Post by auntym on Jul 11, 2017 17:13:17 GMT -6
www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/11/congress-plots-to-create-new-space-corps-branch-to-the-militar/23025126/ Congress plots to create new 'Space Corps' branch to the militaryKelsey Weekman, AOL.com Jul 11th 2017 The House Armed Services Committee recently approved a version of the 2018 military budget that includes the creation of a sixth military branch -- the Space Corps. Today, the military consists of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, and Air Force. A new branch has not been added since the Air Force in 1947. According to the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, the Space Corps would take over duties currently handled by the Air Force and its Space Command. Then, it would relate to the Air Force in the same way the Marine Corps relates to the Navy. CNN reports that the Air Force isn't thrilled about the idea. Both Air Force Chief of Staff General David Goldfein and Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson told the news outlet that a separate Space Corps would create bureaucratic bloat and interdepartmental turf wars -- and it wouldn't improve anything at all. "If I had more money," Wilson told CNN, "I would put it into lethality, not bureaucracy." Though private spaceflight is trending around the world right now, Congress likely won't add the Space Corps to its arsenal for a while. The Senate version of the U.S. budget does not include anything about the Space Corps at all. Who knows what could happen in years to come, though? www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/11/congress-plots-to-create-new-space-corps-branch-to-the-militar/23025126/
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Post by auntym on Jul 14, 2017 12:31:08 GMT -6
www.popularmechanics.com/military/news/a27285/james-mattis-opposes-space-corps-military-branch/?src=socialflowTW&src=socialflowTW Space Corps Moves Forward Despite Opposition From Mattis, White House The House Armed Services Committee introduced legislation for a new military branch for space, but they face opposition at every turn. By Jay Bennett / www.popularmechanics.com/author/14283/jay-bennett/Jul 13, 2017 (Image: The U.S. Air Force's X-37B unmanned spaceplane that orbits for hundreds of days at a time on classified missions.) Perhaps the biggest question regarding the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) currently being debated by the House is whether the legislation will require the Air Force to create a new branch of the military to operate and defend assets in space: the Space Corps. Provisions requiring a Space Corps to be established by 2019 are already in the NDAA, and the bill was approved 60 to 1 by the House Armed Services Committee last month. But the Space Corps has some major opposition, including Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson, Chief of Staff General David Goldfein, and perhaps most significantly, Secretary of Defense James Mattis. It is the opinion of the White House and the Air Force leadership that a new Space Corps would create burdensome bureaucracy and actually work to counteract the Air Force's efforts to defend assets in space against emerging threats from nations like China and Russia. "The Pentagon is complicated enough," Wilson said last month. "We're trying to simplify. This will make it more complex, add more boxes to the organization chart, and cost more money." "The Pentagon is complicated enough. This will make it more complex." Mattis recently echoed the sentiment when he wrote a letter to Ohio Rep. Mike Turner, the Republican Chairman of the House Tactical Air and Land Forces Subcommittee who is leading an effort to oppose the Space Corps. Mattis wrote that he feared a Space Corps would create a burdensome "additional organizational and administrative tail." "At a time when we are trying to integrate the Department's joint warfighting functions, I do not wish to add a separate service that would likely present a narrower and even parochial approach to space operations," Mattis wrote. However, those in favor of a Space Corps just won another legislative victory. A measure was recently introduced by Turner to derail the Space Corps and replace the legislation with a study on space defense, but it failed to get approval from the House Rules Committee for a public debate on the House floor. The result was a setback for Mattis and Air Force leadership and a win for the Congressmen pushing for a distinct Space Corps. The primary champion of a Space Corps is Republican Rep. Mike Rogers of Alabama, who chairs the Strategic Forces Subcommittee and introduced the Space Corps provision to the NDAA. Rogers has the support of the House Armed Services Committee when he argues that a distinct Space Corps would give the leadership overseeing space defense more authority and more resources to address threats. Rogers and other lawmakers worry that China or Russia could cripple U.S. surveillance and communications capabilities by taking out DoD satellites, particularly since China shot down a defunct weather satellite with a missile in January 2007 as a test. Currently, Rogers argues, the space contingency of the Air Force is getting short shrift. And he's not alone. "The Air Force doesn't have enough space personnel, and the space personnel they do have, unfortunately, have the lowest promotion rates in the Air Force," said Republican Rep. Doug Lamborn last month, whose Colorado district includes the Air Force Space Command at Peterson Air Force Base. "Not enough people, who don't get promoted enough, and who are also way underrepresented in Air Force leadership." Rogers' own comments last month at a House Armed Services Committee markup session were a bit more blunt. "As we say in Alabama, I'm *angry*." "When I see arguments that we are actually going to set back efforts to respond to adversary space threats, well, as we say in Alabama, I'm *angry*," Rogers said. He went on to say of the Air Force's opposition: "They better shape up or they'll figure out who is in charge here. I'll let you in on a secret: It's the branch of our government that controls the purse strings." The White House and the Air Force oppose a Space Corps, while most of the House Armed Services Committee supports it. The full House of Representatives could vote on the NDAA as early as this week or next. But there is one more camp that has yet to weigh in on the Space Corps: the Senate. So far, the Senate Armed Services Committee, chaired by John McCain, has remained silent about the proposed sixth military branch. McCain could be the swing opinion that pushes the Space Corps through despite White House opposition, or he could be the final nail in the Space Corps coffin. Regardless of the opinion of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the NDAA still needs to go through debates and votes from the full House and Senate, with opportunities for additional lawmakers to weigh in. So the Space Corps has a long way to go, but even with opposition from Mattis, it's not dead yet. www.popularmechanics.com/military/news/a27285/james-mattis-opposes-space-corps-military-branch/?src=socialflowTW&src=socialflowTW
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Post by auntym on Jul 16, 2017 16:48:58 GMT -6
www.ancient-code.com/brace-yourself-the-us-navy-nasa-have-a-fully-operational-space-fleet/ Brace yourself: The US NAVY & NASA have a fully operational ‘Space Fleet’By Ivan / www.ancient-code.com/author/ivanpetricevic/Numerous claims have been made in recent years that support the result of one of the biggest security breaches in the history of the US military. According to reports, the US Navy and NASA have a fully operational Space Fleet. Interestingly, these ‘accusations’ are backed up by highly ranking individuals such as Senator Daniel K. Inouye who said: “There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.”They say that the truth is out there. But where is it? And how can we distinguish what’s important and what’s not when it comes to Alien life, UFO’s, and extraterrestrial technology—if of course, it exists? The truth is that in today’s society, a thin line divides what is real and what is not. In the last couple of years, numerous ‘whistleblowers’ have come forward saying—and some would dare say proving—that governments around the globe have access to extremely advanced technology. In other words, alien technology. One of the best quotes regarding alien life and ‘their’ presence comes from Paul Hellyer, Former Canadian Defense Minister, and the man responsible for combining the Canadian Air Force, Army, and Navy into one united force, known as the Canadian Forces. Mr. Hellyer said: “Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about where we were headed and offered to help. But instead, we, or at least some of us, interpreted their visits as a threat and decided to shoot first and ask questions after… Trillions, and I mean thousands of billions of dollars have been spent on projects about which both the Congress and the Commander in Chief have been kept deliberately in the dark.” Here is the source. But Hellyer isn’t the only one who has ventured out to speak about alien life and the extraterrestrial presence. In fact, numerous astronauts/former astronauts have done the same. Dr. bob O’Leary, Former NASA Astronaut, and Princeton Physics Professor said: “There is abundant evidence that we are being contacted, that civilizations have been monitoring us for a very long time, that their appearance is bizarre from any type of traditional materialistic western point of view. That these visitors use the technologies of consciousness, they use toroids, they use co-rotating magnetic disks for their propulsion systems that seem to be a common denominator of the UFO phenomenon.” Here is the source. Are these people lying? Were their words misinterpreted? There is more.Gordon Cooper, Former NASA Astronaut, Aeronautical Engineer, and test pilot; one of the seven original astronauts in Project Mercury, the first manned space program of the United States said that: “In my opinion, I think they were worried that it would panic the public if they knew that someone had vehicles that had this kind of performance… so they started telling lies about it. And then I think they had to cover another lie, you know, tell another lie to cover their first lie, now they don’t know how to get out of it. Now it’s going to be so embarrassing to admit that all these administrations have told a lot of untruths…. [and that] there are a number of extraterrestrial vehicles out there cruising around.” Check out the source. The list goes on, but that’s for another article and not this one. CONTINUE READING: www.ancient-code.com/brace-yourself-the-us-navy-nasa-have-a-fully-operational-space-fleet/
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Post by auntym on Jul 21, 2017 14:22:39 GMT -6
www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-mufon-symposium-to-explore-origin-of-some-ufos-examine-secret-us-military-space-program/770622023 I-Team: MUFON symposium to explore origin of some UFO's, examine secret US military space programBy: George Knapp Posted: Jul 20, 2017 LAS VEGAS - UFO experts from around the world will converge on Las Vegas Thursday night for a symposium. The symposium will not focus so much on whether UFO's are from other planets, but rather, whether some of them are built on earth as part of a secret space program controlled by the United States military or maybe some other government entity. Speculation about a secret space program has persisted for years and often intersects with the equally controversial premise that alien visitors have been zipping in and out of our skies for ages. The two topics will collide this weekend at the International Symposium of MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network. "Of the 7,000 or so cases that are reported to us of UFO sightings every year from around the world, after we investigate them, about 30 percent remain unknown," said Jan Harzan, MUFON. "Of those 30 percent, could some of those be our top secret aircraft or space craft?" The answer is almost certainly yes, according to the CIA. The agency claimed years ago, without much proof, that about half of all UFO sightings in past decades were actually misidentifications of secret craft, developed and flown from Nevada's Area 51 military base. Area 51 is also the inspiration for more exotic claims, namely, which we've developed out of world technology derived from crash sites like Roswell, New Mexico. "In other words, we've been able to recover crashed saucers from back in the 40's onward and have back engineered them and are going out into space using this technology," Harzan said. One of the speakers who will explore the idea of a secret space program is Historian Richard Dolan, who cites statements made by Aerospace Visionary Ben Rich. Rich led Lockheed's Skunkworks division, the same outfit which designed and developed the world's greatest flying machines at Area 51, including the U-2 spy plane and stealth fighter. Before he died, Rich told an audience that the U.S. already had the technology to travel to the stars, but that it was unlikely that it would ever be made public. Harzan was in the audience when Rich made those comments. "There are people who think there's no way the government could hide something this big. I don't know. That's why we're asking the question, right," Harzan said. Not far from where the conference is being held, billionaire Robert Bigelow is building his own space program. It will be a full menu of spacecraft habitats that could be operational within five years and be part of bases on the moon or Mars, so it's not much of a leap to suggest other black budget space programs could be underway. Take the Air Force's mysterious X-37-B space plane for example: With so many launches around the world, the public doesn't have any idea of the payloads that could be hidden inside. One of the speakers at the conference is Gary McKinnon, an autistic hacker from the United Kingdom who, while trying to uncover UFO secrets, broke into classified computers of NASA and other agencies. But what he ended up finding, was a program code named Solar Warden, which was evidence of a secret space fleet, right down to the names of the planet officers. "There were actual rosters of intergalactic ships based in the U.S. Navy, of all things," Harzan said. "He saw the names of the officers, right?" But, the U.S. Government didn't. In fact, it spent 8 years trying to extradite McKinnon. McKinnon's speech to the conference over the weekend will be via Skype because if he visited the U.S., he would face prison time. Other speakers of the symposium include a physics professor working to create traversable wormholes known as stargates, and a few more controversial speakers who claim they've already been to other planets. "We're going to let people present and lay it out there, and the public can make up its mind," Harzan said. The MUFON symposium starts Friday at the J.W. Marriott on the west side of town, and it's open to the public. Free events offered include a UFO exhibit and film festival. They also have organized bus trips out to the edge of Aarea 51. For more information on the event go here. www.mufonsymposium.com/ WATCH VIDEO: www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-mufon-symposium-to-explore-origin-of-some-ufos-examine-secret-us-military-space-program/770622023
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