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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 10:49:55 GMT -6
Prove the government knows a thing about them. The flip side of the coin is that they are as igannant about them as we are OR they're under some stressor that we are not aware of..a reason to keep their mouths shut (assuming they know anything). I remember an article I read long ago about a man in Mexico that witnessed a ufo (presumably)..and ended up with a sunburn and a brand new set of teeth. Are you going to believe all of the reports you want to believe and ignore the ones you don't? There's a good place to start:)
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Post by lois on Jun 22, 2012 19:52:08 GMT -6
Jo, what ever happen to that member over on Mufonia that went out camping alone. He had missing time, then something about he had missing teeth. Is this who you are preferring to?
Does anyone remember his name. I sure don't and I know I never will as nothing comes to mind at all. He was a strange one. Like you said .. Believe the ones you want to and disbelieve the ones you don't.
I use to be able to go there and retrieve things now it is gone for good. Sky did transfer some of my post over to here. And I did talk to members there now and then as I never sign out of mufonia. Look at me Mufonia? ha ha.. ufomania is what I meant.
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Post by lois on Jun 22, 2012 19:58:20 GMT -6
Radiation was one of my concerns as I stood under the ufo. I was scared of the bean as not to get into it. Then I was scared when it started vibrating me . The power source was getting very strong. So I ran as I thought radiation may touch me. , but not quick enough. I know the beams they send down are not radioactive.. I would of been fried..so would the grass and the corn in the neighbors yard.
What ever came out of that ufo Betty Cash witnessed must of been full of it. It had a opening at the bottom like what I witnessed but the flames they seen were only coming from my ufo as it came in over the trees . When it stopped there was none.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 21:58:13 GMT -6
No, the guy I was talking about lived in Mexico..didn't speak English and it never was substantiated or much investigated. I never heard more about it than the one article I stumbled onto. I'm positive there are many stories in the past that never surfaced because of 'skeptic' abuse etc. Always reminds me of Randy Quaid's character in Independence Day...always getting put down..but got the last laugh.
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Post by ufo4peace on Jun 23, 2012 1:46:10 GMT -6
No, the guy I was talking about lived in Mexico..didn't speak English and it never was substantiated or much investigated. The guy you were talking about?! This is another not true statement by Jokelly. That would be Mr. Raúl Dominguez from Jalisco, Guadalajara, Mexico. The Colares UFO flap in 1977 also involved radiation sickness type symptoms from UFO beams. Doctor Wellaide Cecim Carvalho wrote: "All of them had suffered lesions to the face or the thoracic area." The lesions, looking like radiation injuriesAnother jokelly misnomer: There is no physical evidence to support abduction claims. WRONG There's actually physical trace evidence in both UFO cases and supposed alien abductions. Some alien abductions also involve UFO trace evidence since it was also a UFO incident.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Aug 4, 2012 12:04:30 GMT -6
Testing Compass needle Anomalies Pertaining to Automobiles and UFOs
I finished the little compass experiment that I was conducting and I must say that I got some interesting results, although not what I was expecting.
Just in case people have no idea what I am talking about let me go over it once again.
One of the more commonly reported characteristics of a Close Encounter involving an automobile and a UFO is that a compass will spin if placed in close proximity to the automobile. Supposedly the electromagnetic energy from the UFO somehow "magnetizes" the metal in the car so that it has a strange effect on the compass needle.
I have seen this demonstrated repeatedly by UFO investigators who hold a compass a few inches away from a witnesses' car and then slowly walk around the car while keeping the compass in the same position. At certain points the compass will fluctuate back and forth or point in another direction besides north. Numerous videos have been posted on You tube showing this very thing happening while the investigator claims that it is proof that there was a UFO encounter.
I myself have had several UFO encounters, as well as abduction experiences, and I know for a fact that some of my automobiles have indeed been exposed to UFOs. The experience that I had back in 1988 where I was picked up out of my bed by a beam of light would have positioned the UFO directly over my car that was parked out in the parking lot. I therefor began to wonder if some of my vehicles would also have an effect on a compass, even after such a lengthy period of time. I decided to conduct an experiment to find out.
What I did is I got two different compasses, made by different manufacturers so I could be certain the results were accurate, and I tested them against 100 different automobiles, some of which have had known UFO encounters, while others have not. The cars ranged in age from the 1950s all the way up to the newest one which was a 2009 model. Many of these vehicles were in a salvage yard and were not in operable condition, while others were very well maintained and drivable. Some had engines and other major parts missing while others were totally intact. The vehicles ranged in size from as small as a motorcycle all the way up to an eighteen wheeler.
I even conducted a different experiment to see if a running engine might have an effect on the compass. I basically was trying to determine if there was any reason that a car might have an anomalous effect on a compass needle and if the anomalies only applied to vehicles that had been in close proximity to hovering UFOs.
The way that I conducted the experiment was to first stand a good distance away from the vehicle so that I could take a compass heading on true magnetic north then I held the compass in the same position and moved it to withing a few inches from the body of the vehicle that I was testing. I then proceeded to walk all the way around the vehicle, maintaining the body of the compass in it's original position, and watching to see what the needle did. I then repeated the experiment with the second compass to insure that the results were accurate, then proceeded on to the next vehicle. All 100 vehicles were tested in this manner.
The results were totally unexpected. What I discovered is that the needle of the compass did at times react to the metal of the car. Some times the needle would point towards the vehicle, while other times it would point away. Some times it would seem to wander around without settling on any direction. There were a couple of cases where the compass did in fact turn an entire circle, although it only did it once. This would at first seem to verify that the reports of "spinning" compasses are correct. At second glance though, we find out that this is not actually the case.
The unexpected result of my experiment is that I found that the compass had an anomalous reaction to every single vehicle that I tested. Not just the ones that had been exposed to UFOs, but to all of the vehicles. They all affected the needle on the compass.
I could not find any consistencies or reasons why this was occurring. The needle fluctuations sometimes occurred at the front of the vehicle, sometimes at the rear, sometimes only at certain locations and not others. there was no clear pattern to why the fluctuations were occurring. The engine blocks, which are made out of large chunks of cast iron, had no noticeable effect on the needle. It also did not matter if the engine was running or not.
Those last two things kind of surprised me since I know that large deposits of iron sometimes do interfere with a compass needle. I also know that a running engine produces electromagnetic energy. In fact, iron or steel objects will in fact stick to the back of an alternator because it is magnetized while the engine is running. Neither had any effect on the needle of the compass however. That is what I thought was kind of odd.
I think the results of this experiment conclusively prove that the reports of the "spinning" compasses that result from UFO encounters is false. The compasses seem to be fluctuating simply from being in close proximity to the automobile, not because of any after effect from the UFO.
I would still like to determine exactly why the automobiles are causing the compass needles to fluctuate but that doesn't seem to have anything to do with UFO activity. It may have something to do with the way the metal parts are formed during production, but that is just a guess. I'll have to do some more research into it.
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Post by paulette on Aug 4, 2012 20:50:21 GMT -6
Various not particularly scientific thoughts from an ex English major.
Spinning compasses feature strongly in stories about the Bermuda Triangle.
People can obviously stand more radiation (without all of them manifesting illness immediately) than I had imagined. The people from Chenobyl have children with high levels of leukemia but surprisingly a lot of the adults who lived in the nearby villages are moving back - still able to chop wood, carry water, and eat at least somewhat contaminated foodstuffs. The people living around the melt-down in Japan are (as far as we know) mostly still alive. They may have shortened lives and their children may have more than usual problems. But they are not dying in the streets. Even people who get enough radiation to be burnt (medical treatment for breast cancer often results in burns) they (some of them) recover from both the cancer and the radiation.
My point is, that unless someone's clothes or shoes or garage is checked out and found to be radiative - no one would know. I have read accounts where a family doctor thought a person had radiation burns after some sort of encounter. But most family doctors aren't familiar with radiation. If a person goes to their doctor and says, I feel sick and can't keep anything down and I have this sensitive area on my skin most doctors would NOT go to radiation sickness, even though these are bone fide symptoms.
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Post by randy on Aug 16, 2012 1:09:49 GMT -6
A few comments. As a kid I was able to examine a landed UFO with my friends and noted that the leading edge of the circular craft was a ring with slanted vents that stronly suggest the ring rotated counter clock wise it you look down at it. It also had tail vane usually missing in UFO drawings. Seeing a UFO in flight it was rather pretty and had orange colored spokes of light coming down from the top to the edge that were curved suggesting the top rotated and dragged the rim around once in flight. Over all the craft was a sparkling white. combined it was quite the show. in the oil business for a while I have worked with gamma rays and neutrons and used Atomic absorption and atomic emission. Not an expert but I have basic knowledge. Talking with a grey during an abduction he said UFOs fly on the magnetic field of the earth. For about a year after that I would draw pictures in school of a UFO interacting with the earths magnetic field. Pictures of lines of magnetic force. Just an idea but if a UFO emitted a changing magnetic field timed to match the earths magnetic field change it could be attracted or repulsed. LIke a magnet reacting to another magnet. In a magnet most of the electrons are around one pole at any given time but they still move around they are not frozen in place. If you could read that movement you could react to it. You could attract and repel yourself through the sky. One film I saw of a UFO in flight seemed to show the UFO moving in fast little jerks The little jerks being possibly each adaption to changing magnetic fields. As for radiation I can see such a processs giving off quantums of energy from the changing fields. Light is radiant energy the light show of a UFO is not for amusement it is a side effect. Just some idle thinking
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Post by randy on Aug 16, 2012 1:19:13 GMT -6
Post script: In the vents in the ring on the edge of the UFO were tubes in the back with a weight on the end stick out. Possibly gas emitted getting the ring to spin as it was heavy and massive looking in weight Once in motion it seems possible that the top of the UFO spins and takes over pulling the ring around as suggested by the curved spokes of light on the UFO I saw in flight. why do this who knows? the sparkle effect of the over all UFO suggests rapid change going on that emits light as it happens. Perhaps adapting to magnetic field change over distance and time. Why the leading edge of the UFO has to rotate is a puzzle. Working on that
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Post by randy on Aug 22, 2012 0:20:43 GMT -6
the bottom of the small UFO I examined as a kid was fairly flat. I do not recall seeing any orange spokes of light on the UFO bottom that I saw in flight. As speculation the orange spokes may produce a shield effect protecting the craft from the effects of speed in flight air friction. The white sparkling effect as stated may be changing magnetic field lines An alternate idea is that a shield is created around the craft and the shield is charged on its edge with alternating magnetic fields instead of the surface of the craft. Idle thoughts
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