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Post by sunbow on Jun 19, 2012 11:39:29 GMT -6
They may take people for multiple purposes. They may also take some people just to send them back into the human population with a wild story. If many stories do not match (and they don't) it is easy for skeptics to say it's nothing and for them to continue without humanity looking into what is going on (and they seem to like it like that). Many stories also means that figuring out the key agendas is very difficult (if there are agendas prioritized above others). They may deliberately make things more complex than they really are to keep us guessing.
It may be possible that they are very natural in flow and opportunist and do not have structured plans for the day: they find someone 'available' then determine what they can get, study, or whatever from that particular catch of the day.
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Post by lois on Jun 19, 2012 11:46:17 GMT -6
The grays follow families. I have reason to believe my crazy Grandmother had experiences and 3 of 5 of my generation have (in our family). I have not really talked to cousins about all this. They may keep track of everyone to some degree (a ranger or scientist keeps track of the animals on a game reserve, a rancher keeps track of their livestock). IMO: the invasion scnario is just too limited to account for the complex data. If you look at reports, there may be a hundred different species 'visiting'. There is also the theory that the grays evolved on earth, used to interact with the barbaric humans, but have become hidden for some reason. I know this all too well.... sunbow. My Mother and daughter have had experiences . Even my granddaughter last summer watched a green beem come down from the sky to the ground. It was about two blocks away from her. Odd it was a green beam?? She seen nothing more. It was so bright she said, other people must of seen it. ..
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Post by sunbow on Jun 19, 2012 13:42:16 GMT -6
Hard to know what to tell the young ones. Don't want them to be scared, but don't want them naive either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2012 16:05:03 GMT -6
I think they are both structured and opportunistic. When I was 5 and the creature sensed my distress and ability..that was opportunistic. When they came back when I was 15..they were after something that changed in me after puberty hit. They waited and didn't waste much time after the onset. That was structured. My friend who was with me at the time didn't have the same 'routine' as I did..not the samples taken or whatever else they were after. My best friend is about as psychic as a rock (the rock would win) and they had a horrible time controlling her. Most of my agitation and upset was coming from her. It's an odd thing that every time I'm given anesthetic..I go berserk afterward..I think it's part of some chemical thing that triggers this combative thing in me and something tells me..it's connected to them somehow.
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Post by sunbow on Jun 19, 2012 19:53:22 GMT -6
I am deathly afraid of being anesthetized. Some part of me thinks I will wig out as soon as I can't control myself and go down fighting. I have just been thinking about this lately.
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Post by randy on Jun 20, 2012 0:27:49 GMT -6
my sister was in the base as I heard her voice one time but didnt actually see her. Her children are involved with the greys and probably the grand kids will be also. My niece is fully aware of the fetus heads as she calls them as is my nephew. Since my niece has three young children they would be a lure for the greys. her oldest son is very inteligent and comes up with some really odd things at times. My son at times has made comments about probes and seeing greys as a kid but he is rather closed mouth about things. My sister had three gerys who she called the three amigos as they always were together when they came to get her. One afternoon reading on her back porch in a populated area they came around the corner of her house and looking up she saw them and said "oh its you" and end of memory. Later a new form of grey showe up that was taller, thinner and has a mushroom shaped head. My sister feels these new body morphs are more threatening and sinister in aspect. I would like to say that I have only seen the greys but they put me into a pen as a kid with a wookie like being that was huge and covered with long black hair. It had eyes like a grey and the hait on the head stood straight up adding to the appearance of great height. the hair on the head also was in a crest that went from side to side. Much like a big foot but it was inteligent and only wanted to be free of the greys. I was able to talk with it telepathically. Again in my head it spoke english but did it really speak english or did I just under stand it. As a side issue both my wife and my mother had lightneing strike next to them as kids. It hit about 3 ft from them. Anyone have lightening experiences?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 0:35:24 GMT -6
Wow Jo, you and Sunbow seem to have that in common...
I've never had a lightning experience... but Lois almost got electrocuted by a washing machine ringer once...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 0:59:55 GMT -6
I don't feel it consciously Lorelei like Sunbow does..it nails me when I'm under. I've woken up with bruises on my face from fighting and nurses giving me really odd looks. I suppose then..it's firmly entrenched in my subconscious with the other half of my memories..I keep wondering about hypnosis to find out the rest of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 1:14:54 GMT -6
I don't feel it consciously Lorelei like Sunbow does..it nails me when I'm under. I've woken up with bruises on my face from fighting and nurses giving me really odd looks. I suppose then..it's firmly entrenched in my subconscious with the other half of my memories..I keep wondering about hypnosis to find out the rest of it. Well- it seems to work for a lot of people. Steve has said that Mary had had a lot of patients whose lives were much improved after hypnotherapy with her... When I saw the hypnotherapist last year he "unlocked" a blocked memory of mine but it was only a partial memory and it was absolutely incredible... it hit me a few weeks later... and did leave me with more questions than answers but it was still kinda cool... ~shrug~ Anesthesia doesn't bother me aside from the fact that I need "more juice" and I have woken up too soon a couple times... I tolerate it fairly well personally as long as I have my nausea patch behind my ear... maybe it's because I'm used to having sleep paralysis... ~shrug~
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 9:50:36 GMT -6
I'd just be happy without any of the BS LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 18:34:16 GMT -6
Much like a big foot but it was intelligent and only wanted to be free of the greys. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=theories&thread=2442&page=2#29866#ixzz1yNp46UQR____________________________________________________ My son and I have both dreamed of a huge "bear" that was intelligent and kept in an enclosure by strange "beings". My son will not elaborate on "beings" (and now is adamant that there are no aliens here from outer space). My concept of "beings"; well, I feel like I've seen several different types. . .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 23:49:18 GMT -6
JC if you feel it...then that is what you need to go with. Accept it as a reality and you should be able to pick up more threads of it. It's denial..that occludes things. I figure it this way. From the time I was a child I've had these encountery things..but my brain stepped in and said..hey this kid can't handle this stuff and the divorce of the parents and the dominant father..so we'll just tuck this and a couple of other things onto a back burner for safe keeping. Once I matured enough and had been through enough things started to move in small trickles. At first I fought like heck..nope no way..stupid..period.. 'I can't see things I can't determine the sex of children...I can't etc.etc. But it always slipped back nipping away until I let a trickle through..well maybe I can..some..a little.. Then wham..lots and lots..aliens and abduction and molestation by a baby sitter before the alien...when I was 5..and so on. Little by little..that hidden stuff took on reality until there wasn't any way to stuff it back into the bottle like some big, fat, bad genie. I do think..we don't all see alike..but that we are meant to see what we do see or we wouldn't see it at all. I think there are thousands of abductions and encounters that never reach the level of acceptance. I am positive my own brain held this stuff hostage until I could deal and that there's at least as much I can't remember. That bothers me a lot...because I can handle just about anything by now
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Post by randy on Jun 21, 2012 0:59:00 GMT -6
I have talked with LH who was one of the kids who entered the base with me and while he remembers alot he is in denial right now and insists there has to be another explaination for things. he had hard time as a kid once he woke up in the morning laying in the grass in his under ware. he had no idea how he got there. Facing the unknown is not for the faint of heart It takes guts to face your fears and hidden monsters that go bump in the night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 10:11:33 GMT -6
There could be another explanation..and keeping the mind open to alternatives is the best advice ever. That's not necessarily being in denial. I have some of my memory back..my friend won't remember the entire day and there were other things that set it apart. Meaning..I was supposed to remember..she wasn't? Or...I remember what they wanted me to remember OR there is yet another explanation I haven't thought of. What I do know..is that things are not always the way they seem to be and our minds observe things and sometimes fill in the blanks with things more familiar. I can only say this is what I THINK happened that day...what I BELIEVE.. I don't have back up or proof so why would I expect someone else to believe what may or may not be fact? Maybe my entire life has been some convoluted distortion and I'm really stuck in some matrix somewhere providing batteries for flashlights. The possibilities..might sound ludicrous..but are endless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 11:53:57 GMT -6
Anyone have lightening experiences? Oh yes . In Henderson, Nevada . We had to stop working because of the rain so I ran home because it was coming down hard everywhere. As I was running I saw several bolts of lightning come down around Las Vegas in a straight line and so I stopped running for a sec and thought "wow, that was cool "! As soon as I saw that I saw another bolt strike in the desert in a deserted lot about a hundred ft. away and then I looked up and noticed that I was standing directly under a huge transformer. No sooner than Id looked up and zap !! Lightning struck it and this thing emitted a bright orange fireworks display right over my head. I could feel all the hairs on my body and a tingly sensation. I ran home very quickly without stopping again. Some of my co-workers had seen this happen and had a good laugh the next day. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 13:11:56 GMT -6
Anyone have lightening experiences? Oh yes . In Henderson, Nevada . We had to stop working because of the rain so I ran home because it was coming down hard everywhere. As I was running I saw several bolts of lightning come down around Las Vegas in a straight line and so I stopped running for a sec and thought "wow, that was cool "! As soon as I saw that I saw another bolt strike in the desert in a deserted lot about a hundred ft. away and then I looked up and noticed that I was standing directly under a huge transformer. No sooner than Id looked up and zap !! Lightning struck it and this thing emitted a bright orange fireworks display right over my head. I could feel all the hairs on my body and a tingly sensation. I ran home very quickly without stopping again. Some of my co-workers had seen this happen and had a good laugh the next day. ;D ;D ;D LOL... that is a funny story Cliff... I'm so glad you didn't get hurt though...
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Post by skywalker on Jun 21, 2012 17:36:27 GMT -6
I've had a buuuunch of experiences with lightning. It hasn't zapped me yet but has gotten pretty close. Once I was up on the top of the boom of a crane in a thunderstorm (don't ask : when lightning started crackling above me. My hair was standing straight up like a broom and my neck felt like it was on fire! That was definitely not cool. Well...maybe just a little bit cool since I lived to tell about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2012 21:18:30 GMT -6
That is some scary stuff. It's actually attracted to some people..like the forest ranger it nailed 7 times. One time it crossed the cab of his pickup to get him..You should read the accounts of the strikes (under the paragraph)..geeze..it wanted this guy. Roy Cleveland Sullivan (February 7, 1912 – September 28, 1983) was a U.S. park ranger in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. Between 1942 and 1977, Sullivan was hit by lightning on seven different occasions and survived all of them. For this reason, he gained a nickname "Human Lightning Conductor" or "Human Lightning Rod". Sullivan is recognized by Guinness World Records as the person struck by lightning more recorded times than any other human being.[ He died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 71 over an unrequited love en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan
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Post by randy on Jun 23, 2012 0:02:33 GMT -6
I was driving across nevada in the daytime when I saw lightening hit the trailer of a truck coming the other direction Then as I passed the truck a deep blue spark about 7 in wide jumped from the hood of my car to the ground. I was left untouched fortunately. My only experience with lightening. My father said as a kid in Washington lights would play around his bicycles spokes as he rode it at night sometimes. this brings to mind an old family legend that some where perhaps around riverton Iowa during the Late 1800s an air ship laned and all the local farmers were invited aboard for dinner which was eaten and then the sir ship left. This goes real back into time and was I think told to my grandfather as a kid. While a soldier in France in WWI my grandfather heard of a strange air ship that was shot down and crashed into the allied line killing a number of men. The whole thing was hushed up and no one was allowed to talk about it. So much was lost in the past due to poor recording of family history
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Post by randy on Jun 27, 2012 23:36:54 GMT -6
What is certain about the cold war is that the world became an armed camp with huge amounts of money, resources and man power devoted to building up a powerful military on both sides yet the major powers did not go to war at least directly. Brush fire wars providing window dress happened and millions of soldiers stood ready to slaughter each other but the final event did not happen. It was never intended to happen the real reason to arm was the greys but the cold war was a convenient and well reasoned cover story. It was believable We were ready for war at a seconds notice. SAC bombers stood ready to go and misslles ready to fly. Submarines and air craft carriers were ready. Yet nothing happened. Unfortunately for world human survival our military kill the planet capacity is going like a falling elevator. If nothing else the cold war motivated technology break throughs. Left on our own we would be still somewhere in the hot air balloon/ biplane era Zepplins would be big news. Without Russia to motivate our space program has fallen into the toilet. We have no space shuttles period. We are losing the space race because we are running in it anymore.
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Post by sunbow on Jun 28, 2012 5:54:57 GMT -6
The army just landed their own space shuttle. I do not think we know what is being done, since black budget money and the 'Break Away' civilization (See Richard Dolan) are hidden from the public sector.
Space is being privatized.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 10:17:44 GMT -6
I was told by someone that there is a shuttle in orbit that no one discusses..any one heard about this, or is that what you're discussing SunBow? We never know what they're up to
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 11:45:52 GMT -6
The army just landed their own space shuttle. I do not think we know what is being done, since black budget money and the 'Break Away' civilization (See Richard Dolan) are hidden from the public sector. Space is being privatized. I believe this also. But how do they "hide" from the public sector? With so many private citizens owning 'scopes and a few honest astronomy experts, why aren't we hearing more??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 12:47:25 GMT -6
This I do not understand...how can anything like this go without being noticed?
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Post by sunbow on Jun 28, 2012 18:14:05 GMT -6
It would be very hard to notice a space shuttle 'plane' like this. Ot was in low orbit for over a year. It does not have huge reflecting solar panels, is small, and moves very fast. In a scope it would be a blur for a fraction of a second at most: invisible to the eye. Its communication would be scrambled and undetectable. It is claimed to be chemically powered, not nuclear. Its mission completely unknown. Some info: www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2160222/US-Air-Forces-secret-X-37B-space-planes-successful-landing-captured-video.html?ITO=1490My point is simply that nuclear weapons are very old obsolete forms of defense. We need the planet and have enough problems without blasting it thermonuclear.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 13:58:16 GMT -6
Thank you, Sunbow.
But you're talking about a "military" space shuttle 'plane', here. I think it is quite possible that we have "cloaking" abilities, anyway.
I'm questioning the "privatization" part. Maybe I misunderstood. Are you saying that all vehicles that travel outside of Earths atmosphere have, as a major part of their agenda, to stay as "secret" as possible?
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Post by sunbow on Jun 29, 2012 20:17:51 GMT -6
I do not think we have true cloaking abilities, though definitely we have worked to minimize the ability of radar to spot things. Optically you would need a path to track to see the low orbit army space shuttle. This one was unmanned. My point is that the military has many avenues they are following and nukes are obsolete: they are no use in battles over oil and other resources. There is a lot we never hear about.
The privatization of space refers to the fact that corporations are building rockets and selling space to launch satellites, rather than space agencies. They are also offering tourist trips.
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Post by randy on Jun 30, 2012 0:06:26 GMT -6
Chemical weapons are very effective but you have no idea what would effect a grey. They might use a nurotoxin as mouth wash. Para ethyl phenol is currently in use to remove some people the vapor in small amounts is absorbed through the skin and mimics a heart attack usually fatal. It is an industrial solvent but very toxic. Over all having been a child of the cold war era my money is on good solid nukes for over all results. Greys can understand nuke very clearly
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2012 11:42:57 GMT -6
The privatization of space refers to the fact that corporations are building rockets and selling space to launch satellites, rather than space agencies. They are also offering tourist trips. Ok. So we should be able to know and see when these tourist trips happen. As for what the military is doing, we'll find out years from now . I agree that nuclear power has no benefits for us other than a big threat. IMO, that's what makes this subject so interesting. I know what "cloaking" is. I know that we use radios to call our guys and say, "hey, something's coming your way". I'm talking about stuff that can ONLY be picked up by radar, and your public sector does not have radar.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2012 20:25:53 GMT -6
According to an aeronautical engineer friend..true cloaking is a long way away. We can bend light somewhat (as the stealth technology does) but good ole Romulan cloaking is still a Romulan secret. I am guessing here...that ufo's that seem to disappear don't have cloaking ability either..they use or can open slices in the fabric of space...little doorways into corridors between worlds. I have a feeling that's how they travel and possibly where some of our missing planes and boats and people go. Like many things..probably discovered the trick by accident and perfected it.
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