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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 0:29:47 GMT -6
He doesn't think it's related to Darth Vadar but George Lucas did say he thinks the world will end in 2012 (see articles below). He son figures he was joking though. search.yahoo.com/search?cs=bz&p=George+Lucas&fr=fp-tts-701&fr2=psMaybe 2012 should get it's own little section? People could add to it as they wished..I'm sure that as we get closer, there will be a LOT more speculation. What think you Boss?
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jan 20, 2011 7:31:05 GMT -6
Ask and ye shall receive...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 16:38:18 GMT -6
I love George Lucas, but I think he should be whipped for creating the new star wars movies and the new Indianna Jones movie. But that's just my opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 16:55:04 GMT -6
I think it would be fun (well interesting then) to have this section host different 'ideas' about what might happen in 2012. What are the Indians saying, witches, astrologers, ufologists etc. Michio Kaku (theoretical physicist) for instance. He's not predicting the end of the world exactly..but he is saying that we will be in serious trouble with the sun by December 2012. We could see almost total communication failure and when you consider what the world runs on (computers, batteries, electronics, satellites) it could amount to a type of cataclysm with some very serious results if we don't do something to protect & shore up our communication systems. Consider how many secure systems are controlled by computers. Banking interests, nuclear reactors, traffic control, vehicle computers and a whole lot of other important processes. Of all of the 2012 predictions I've heard so far, this one has some scientific meat to it. 2012news.com/?p=186
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Post by bewildered on Jan 20, 2011 21:36:56 GMT -6
No one would like my ideas, so I'll abstain from posting them. I love George Lucas, but I think he should be whipped for creating the new star wars movies and the new Indianna Jones movie. But that's just my opinion... ...and one that's shared. He dropped the ball years ago. In his wake, much more talented writers picked up the torch and created what was called the "expanded Star Wars universe." Wise he would be, if those writers he would have produced. Bad he was, to build what he destroyed. That's probably what Yoda would say, anyway.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 21, 2011 10:45:16 GMT -6
No one would like my ideas, so I'll abstain from posting them. I think you should post your ideas whether anybody likes them or not. They still might be good ideas and could make for some interesting converstions. Bring em on. I agree the last three movies did not live up to the first three. I would have been happy if he had stopped after the Return of the Jedi, but he always was planning on doing the rest so it was interesting to see why things turned out the way they did. Star Wars (the original one) is still my favorite movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 17:11:47 GMT -6
No one would like my ideas, so I'll abstain from posting them. I love George Lucas, but I think he should be whipped for creating the new star wars movies and the new Indianna Jones movie. But that's just my opinion... ...and one that's shared. He dropped the ball years ago. In his wake, much more talented writers picked up the torch and created what was called the "expanded Star Wars universe." Wise he would be, if those writers he would have produced. Bad he was, to build what he destroyed. That's probably what Yoda would say, anyway. Yes bewildered... Timothy Zahn... (I heart Mara Jade!!)... K.W. Jeter... many very talented writers. I have read several of the books. I was mad when George Lucas tried to do the childhood story of Bobba Fett in the new movies. In the K.W. Jeter trilogy "The Bounty Hunter Wars"... Mr. Fett was an orphan... and he had blond hair and blue eyes... he was not a clone. That was my FAVORITE Star Wars book... but no... of course not... George had to change the story... (I will NEVER forgive him!!!) lol... That book is a real page-turner, I couldn't put it down until I finished the first one... then I HAD to run to the library to get the second one, then the third one. The title of the first book is "The Mandalorian Armor" in case anyone wants to read it... what a brilliant man. The book starts out right after the destruction of Jabba The Hutt's sail barge. Bobba Fett may have fallen into the Sarlaac pit... but he didn't die... lol ... I also think you should share your ideas on here too bewildered. Hm. Very proud of you Yoda would be, should you your ideas post. Hm.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 22:26:15 GMT -6
Well...on the other hand if we all just stand around and wait..Que Sera, Sera. Eventually we'll all know. I doubt seriously that George Lucas regrets either his last Indy or any of the Star Wars..or if he does..he's regretting it all the way to the bank.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 4:45:54 GMT -6
Well...on the other hand if we all just stand around and wait..Que Sera, Sera. Eventually we'll all know. I doubt seriously that George Lucas regrets either his last Indy or any of the Star Wars..or if he does..he's regretting it all the way to the bank. Yea I know right? But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be whipped for making them... ;D
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Post by bewildered on Jan 22, 2011 10:26:36 GMT -6
I have a host of reasons why I don't care nor worry about any end of the world scenario, be it 2012 or any other from the past (such as Y2K...remember that one?). First, there's the matter of predictions themselves. The End of the World has been coming for thousands of years now, in one form or the other. Something they all have common are the prophets of doom themselves...who seem to crawl out of the woodwork whenever Jupiter aligns with Mars, it rains for more than a week, or psoriasis has its heart broken. These prophets reap the fruits of hysteria wherever and whenever they may, preying upon people's fears of the future and the unknown. It's a profitable business.
When you stop to think about it, it's really quite silly. "The end of the world" could come for you or I tomorrow, in the form of accident or misfortune. For one thing we each may know with a certainty is that sooner or later, we are going to buy the farm...kick the bucket...croak...whatever you wish to call it, it is inevitable. If you invest energy into incessantly worrying about that which you have no control over...death...then you are already dead, for all intents and purposes. This is what those prophets use to manipulate you, and if public reactions are any indicator, they are very successful at it.
I thumb my nose at them. I'll concern myself with right now, prepare within reason for tomorrow, and leave yesterday behind. There's evil enough in one day...don't concern yourself with what might or might not happen tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 11:29:50 GMT -6
I thumb my nose at them. I'll concern myself with right now, prepare within reason for tomorrow, and leave yesterday behind. There's evil enough in one day...don't concern yourself with what might or might not happen tomorrow. My father would whole-heartedly agree with you hun. He always complains about Y2K as well... lol.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 22, 2011 11:33:56 GMT -6
I have a host of reasons why I don't care nor worry about any end of the world scenario, be it 2012 or any other from the past (such as Y2K...remember that one?). First, there's the matter of predictions themselves. The End of the World has been coming for thousands of years now, in one form or the other. Something they all have common are the prophets of doom themselves...who seem to crawl out of the woodwork whenever Jupiter aligns with Mars, it rains for more than a week, or psoriasis has its heart broken. These prophets reap the fruits of hysteria wherever and whenever they may, preying upon people's fears of the future and the unknown. It's a profitable business. When you stop to think about it, it's really quite silly. "The end of the world" could come for you or I tomorrow, in the form of accident or misfortune. For one thing we each may know with a certainty is that sooner or later, we are going to buy the farm...kick the bucket...croak...whatever you wish to call it, it is inevitable. If you invest energy into incessantly worrying about that which you have no control over...death...then you are already dead, for all intents and purposes. This is what those prophets use to manipulate you, and if public reactions are any indicator, they are very successful at it. I thumb my nose at them. I'll concern myself with right now, prepare within reason for tomorrow, and leave yesterday behind. There's evil enough in one day...don't concern yourself with what might or might not happen tomorrow. You said it, BW. I agree totally. Even if the world is going to end in 2012 or tomorrow, we are still alive today. Let's make the most of it while we can. Life is too short to waste worrying about things that may never happen.
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Post by lois on Jan 26, 2011 19:14:08 GMT -6
George Lucas believes in 2012 prophecy Published: 9:28PM Thursday January 20, 2011 Source: BANG Showbiz
Email this article Print this article Text size + - Share on Twitter Share on Facebook George Lucas - Source: Reuters Related Star Wars creator tops Hollywood earners Star Wars creator to get top honour Star Wars creator George Lucas believes the world will end in 2012.
The 66-year-old filmmaker revealed his apocalypse theory to Seth Rogen during a meeting.
And the Green Hornet actor insists Lucas has faith in his prediction.
Rogen is quoted by the Toronto Sun newspaper as saying: "George Lucas sits down and seriously proceeds to talk for around 25 minutes about how he thinks the world is gonna end in the year 2012. Like, for real. He thinks it."
As well as Rogen and Lucas, Oscar-winning director Steven Spielberg - who created the Indiana Jones films with Lucas - was also present at the meeting but is less convinced by his friend's claims.
Rogen added: "George is going on about the tectonic plates and all the time Spielberg is, like, rolling his eyes, like, 'My nerdy friend won't shut up, I'm sorry.'
"I first thought George was joking & and then I totally realised he was serious and then I started thinking, 'If you're George Lucas and you actually think the world is gonna end in a year, there's no way you haven't built a spaceship for yourself & So I asked him & 'Can I have a seat on it?'
He claimed he didn't have a spaceship, but there's no doubt there's a Millennium Falcon in a garage somewhere with a pilot just waiting to go & It's gonna be him and Steven Spielberg and I'll be blown up like the rest of us."
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Post by swamprat on Jul 24, 2011 15:54:09 GMT -6
Believers in Mysterious Planet Nibiru, Comet Elenin Await Earth's EndBy Natalie Wolchover Published July 24, 2011 Space.comRenowned astrophysicist Carl Sagan once described a "baloney detection kit" — a set of tools that skeptical thinkers use to investigate any new concept. A few of the key tools include a healthy distrust of information that isn't independently verified, critically assessing an idea rather than becoming irrationally attached to it simply because it's intriguing, and a preference for simple explanations over wildly speculative ones. The waxing obsession with the planet Nibiru , which conspiracy theorists say is a planet swinging in from the outskirts of our solar system that is going to crash into Earth and wipe out humanity in 2012 — or, in some opinions, 2011 — shows that an astonishing number of people "are watching YouTube videos and visiting slick websites with nothing in their skeptical toolkit," in the words of David Morrison, a planetary astronomer at NASA Ames Research Center and senior scientist at the NASA Astrobiology Institute. Morrison estimates that there are 2 million websites discussing the impending Nibiru-Earth collision. He receives, on average, five email inquiries about Nibiru every day. "At least a once a week I get a message from a young person — as young as 11 — who says they are ill and/or contemplating suicide because of the coming doomsday," Morrison told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com. What's the origin of this mass panic about Nibiru, which astronomers say doesn't exist? A suspect originThe idea that doomsday will result from a planetary collision was first proposed in 1995 by Nancy Lieder, a self-described "contactee." Lieder claims she has the ability to receive messages through an implant in her brain from aliens in the Zeta Reticuli star system. On her website, ZetaTalk, she stated that she was chosen to warn mankind of an impending planetary collision which would wipe out humanity in May 2003. (When no such cataclysmic event occurred, Lieder's followers chose 2012 as the new date for the Nibiru collision, which coincides neatly with other doomsday prophecies focused on the ending of the Mayan calendar.) Lieder originally called the bringer of doom "Planet X," and later connected it to a planet that was hypothesized to exist by a writer named Zecharia Sitchin in his book "The 12th Planet" (Harper 1976) According to Sitchin (1920-2010), the ancient Sumerians wrote about a giant planet called Nibiru — the "twelfth planet" in the solar system, after the other planets (including Pluto), the sun and moon — which has an oblong orbit that swings near Earth every 3,600 years. Humans actually evolved on Nibiru, he said, and colonized this planet during a previous flyby. Historians and language scholars say that Stitchin grossly mistranslated ancient texts. The Sumerians did indeed believe in a cosmology involving planets; however they thought there were five planets, not 12, and they did not believe that humans hopped to Earth from a place called Nibiru. Furthermore, astronomers have pointed out that a planetary orbit like the one Sitchin proposed for Nibiru is impossible: No celestial body could maintain a stable orbit that swings it through the inner solar system every 3,600 years and keeps it beyond Pluto the rest of the time. The body would quickly get sucked in or pushed out. Nonetheless, Sitchin's books have been translated into 25 languages and sold millions of copies worldwide. Lieder's planetary collision theory has adopted the name of Nibiru for Earth's planetary nemesis. Many people who believe that doomsday will occur when the Mayan calendar ends in 2012 have adopted Lieder's Nibiru collision prophecy as the cataclysm that will bring us to that end. Missing planetThe biggest missing link in the doomsday prophecy is Nibiru itself. Because no giant, rogue planet has been found in the outer solar system to play the role of Nibiru, some conspiracy theorists have decided that a small comet called Elenin (which will pass nearest Earth in October 2011) is actually Nibiru. Even then, though, scientists say Elenin will come no closer than 100 times farther than the distance from Earth to the moon. "The fact is that these folks are constantly changing their story," Morrison wrote in an email. "For some, Nibiru is no longer the Sumerian god or planet that is supposed to be returning to Earth in late 2012. It has become a catchword for almost any cosmic catastrophe." Internet rumors about Elenin began spreading earlier this year. Its approach to Earth was blamed for shifting the Earth's axis by 3 degrees in February, precipitating the Chile earthquake, then shifting the pole even more to trigger the Japan quake in March. "Ignoring plate tectonics as the cause of earthquakes, they suggest that the comet exerted strong gravitational or electromagnetic effects on our planet," Morrison wrote. When scientists pointed out that the comet is a mere 3-mile-wide glob of ice with no magnetic field and that it won't even pass very near Earth — and that plate tectonics, not comets, cause earthquakes — rumors began to circulate that NASA was withholding information about Elenin. "Ironically, the inconspicuous nature of this comet plays into some of the conspiracy theories," Morrison pointed out. "For people who are convinced the comet did cause the earthquakes, this proves that Elenin is not a comet at all, but a much more massive, and dangerous, interloper." Conspiracy theorists began speculating that the comet is Nibiru in disguise — a planet or even an enormous brown dwarf star. In fact, Elenin is a textbook comet; it has visible "coma," or nucleus, and a long tail made of vaporizing ice. If it were a brown dwarf, "it would not have a coma or tail, because the gas cannot escape from an object with substantial gravity. In addition, if it were massive we would be seeing its gravitational influence on the orbits of the planets, especially Mars and Earth, but there is no change in these orbits," Morrison wrote. "Finally, if it were a brown dwarf it would have been easily detected in various previous astronomical surveys, including the recent WISE infrared mission, even when it was still in the outer solar system," he wrote. The fact that the comet isn't headed our way is overlooked by most conspiracy theorists, while others say its path is going to change. "[Some] websites suggest that the comet is accompanied by a giant UFO, which controls its orbit," Morrison told us; in effect, who cares if Elenin doesn't seem to be headed in our direction — it'll be steered here. Distinguishing truth from liesMorrison offered some advice to those who are interested in astronomy or are worried about impending collisions. "If it is real, it is likely to be in regular news media, not just posted on some website," he told us. Furthermore, "not everyone who claims on YouTube to be a scientist or an employee of NASA is. But there is no simple way to distinguish truth from lies."
The Nibiru conspiracies are so nonsensical that Morrison wonders whether even their purveyors believe them. Because many websites sell Nibiru books, tapes and even "survival kits," Morrison thinks they are purposely taking advantage of people who aren't able to distinguish credible sources from crackpot ones. "This is especially a problem for young people, which is why I am so angry at those who target children," he said.
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Post by skywalker on Jul 24, 2011 17:57:08 GMT -6
I don't mean to jump on this doomsday and death and destruction bandwagon but I have a question. Why would it be impossible for a planet to maintain an orbit like this? Isn't this exactly what comets do? They have an orbit that takes them out of the solar system for hundreds or even thousands of years and then brings them back through again. Why couldn't a planet do that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2011 18:45:16 GMT -6
I honestly don't know if it's possible or not to hide a planet in our own solar system that wouldn't be picked up by one of the satellites. Considering that scientists just discovered a big blob of water circling a quasar & black hole..they should be able to see a planet on a trajectory to earth. Sitchin has plenty of followers, there's no discounting that but he also has his critics who fault his translations and interpretations of ancient texts, astronomical and scientific observations, and literalism of myth. I think many UFO enthusiasts are a tad guilty of 'modifying' things to fit a theory and I think one reason he is so popular is that he presents (again) alien saviors, he writes well and his theories are at the very least, interesting. True? I guess we'll know if someone spots a big planet bearing down on us. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin
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Post by skywalker on Jul 24, 2011 20:29:09 GMT -6
Even if this so-called "planet" does exist it doesn't mean it will collide with the Earth. It it does exist and has a 3000 or whatever year orbit then that would mean the inhabitants of Earth and Niburu have been waving at each other for billions of years. If it missed us all those times in the past there is no reason why it would plow into us now. I suppose there is a first time for everything though...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 9:26:58 GMT -6
I figured I'd toss these theories in. They are in the same category as all of the others (unsubstantiated) but the thing with theories or predictions is..eventually one is usually right or close to right. Why are there so many dire prophecies right now about catastrophies in 2012? If the Mayans created a circular calendar indicating time was never-ending, why then are there so many people saying that because there are no more Mayan calculations after 2012 this means that time ends for the world?
There are no specific Mayan prophecies saying that 2012 is the end. It may be the end of the calculations, but it also looks like the Mayans were trying to tell us it was a tremendous beginning by carving in stone the very important date of 12/21/2012.
The Mayans left us a very positive sign by calling 12/21/2012 a sacred doorway. That day, all of us on Earth lucky enough to be born at the right time, will experience our sun being in alignment with the center of the Milky Way galaxy. |
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