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Post by mia on Sept 26, 2012 18:53:49 GMT -6
I just read a post on MUFON where someone was watching the NASA feed on 9/22 as Endeavor was flying to California. The poster wrote that they saw several objects at 10 am CST. The NASA announcer said, "Oh my God!" and the feed ended soon after. The poster claimed to see a white pulsating orb, then a huge silver black object which appeared to be following the shuttle.
Is there any way to see the actual footage? I have not been able to pull it up online but think it would be interesting.
The MUFON case number is 42831.
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Post by spotless38 on Sept 26, 2012 19:34:43 GMT -6
I just read a post on MUFON where someone was watching the NASA feed on 9/22 as Endeavor was flying to California. The poster wrote that they saw several objects at 10 am CST. The NASA announcer said, "Oh my God!" and the feed ended soon after. The poster claimed to see a white pulsating orb, then a huge silver black object which appeared to be following the shuttle. Is there any way to see the actual footage? I have not been able to pull it up online but think it would be interesting. The MUFON case number is 42831. Hi Mia . I am a F.I. for Ky and I have been assigned that case . To be fair for the witness I am not going to post the tape ( mainly because I have not got it . ) After I close the case and ask for permission to post it and he (they ) agree to it . I will Thanks Ron ( spotless)
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Post by lois on Sept 26, 2012 20:09:04 GMT -6
Thanks Ron
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Post by skywalker on Sept 27, 2012 17:17:01 GMT -6
The video is probably posted somewhere on the net. I'll keep my eyes open for it.
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Post by harp on Sept 27, 2012 18:43:31 GMT -6
I am the person that filed the report on MUFON. You can watch the entire video on YouTube. Search words: UFO sightings Space Shuttle Endeavor. Username on YouTube is harpharper.
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Post by spotless38 on Sept 27, 2012 19:14:36 GMT -6
Hi Harp . Im glad you came on . I hope that you will enjoy the forum Ron spotless38
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Post by harp on Sept 27, 2012 19:40:24 GMT -6
Ron, where you able to watch the video?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 20:23:22 GMT -6
Here's the video:
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Post by spotless38 on Sept 27, 2012 21:17:57 GMT -6
Ok he asked me to post it . I'LL try
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Post by lois on Sept 27, 2012 21:24:19 GMT -6
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Sept 27, 2012 21:35:42 GMT -6
I noticed that they cut to the ISS Command Center right as the plane went beyond the mountains. Perhaps they just lost sight of it with their cameras? It was kind of hard to make out some of the "UFOs" although that one that went across the screen from left to right was pretty hard to miss. It seemed to come across level and then started to rise up towards the end. I think that would rule out a weather balloon or other stationary object. It definitely seemed to be something that was flying under its own power. What are some other possibilities? Military drones perhaps? Were they using drones to shadow the plane and film the flight? That might need to be looked into, but if it was a drone that was flying across the screen why would the announcer say "Oh, my...?" I'm taking a closer look at the people in the control room to see what their reactions are or if any of their behavior is unusual, which I assume it would be if an unidentified bogey suddenly started shadowing the shuttle. Nothing anybody did really grabbed my attention but then again maybe UFO sightings are common with NASA employees.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 21:55:26 GMT -6
I'm thinking something to film it..if UFO's they're certainly slow and well behaved about giving everyone a good look see.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 27, 2012 22:04:50 GMT -6
There were a couple of fighter jets in the vicinity in the video that Lois posted. That doesn't mean that is what the UFOs definitely are but their presence needs to be taken into consideration. Or maybe the jets were scrambled because of the UFO sightings? Hmmm...lots of possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 23:12:21 GMT -6
In the video that Lois posted I could make out the fighter jet escort and the object that appeared in the front and swooped down to the left looked like a California seagull.
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Post by plutronus on Sept 28, 2012 1:44:35 GMT -6
I noticed that they cut to the ISS Command Center right as the plane went beyond the mountains. Perhaps they just lost sight of it with their cameras?
It was kind of hard to make out some of the "UFOs" although that one that went across the screen from left to right was pretty hard to miss. It seemed to come across level and then started to rise up towards the end. I think that would rule out a weather balloon or other stationary object. It definitely seemed to be something that was flying under its own power.
What are some other possibilities? Military drones perhaps? Were they using drones to shadow the plane and film the flight? That might need to be looked into, but if it was a drone that was flying across the screen why would the announcer say "Oh, my...?"
I'm taking a closer look at the people in the control room to see what their reactions are or if any of their behavior is unusual, which I assume it would be if an unidentified bogey suddenly started shadowing the shuttle. Nothing anybody did really grabbed my attention but then again maybe UFO sightings are common with NASA employees. Sky,
Aside from watching Mission Control people for 'signs' of suspicious behavior, I completely agree with your sentiments. While in my estimation everything seems to have prosaic explanations.
In my view, its just another classic UFO case of blurry splotches in video being deemed as Unidentified Flying Objects, because, well, that's what they are. Not alien mecha, not bugs, not balloons, not Venus, maybe birds? Maybe military chase-planes, or other military aircraft (at the moment, it was in an Airforce base air-traffic area) and unlike all the commercial airport air-traffic along the Endeavour flight route being grounded, Airforce base traffic was essentially business as usual.
And, I watched that segment 'live' on NASA-TV in HD on my 52" HD TV. That black thing moving across the screen? appeared to be a bird flying along, which was the impression I received at the time and frankly I did not hear the announcer say, "Oh my God" just prior to their switching from the Endeavor feed to the ISS MC feed. As for the supposition that the NASA commentator was yakking on LIVE FEED, that seems to be a presumption by claimants. Virtually everything in TV that is broadcast live is delayed to enable near-real-time editing (snip snip) of unexpected, unpleasant, or undesired scenes/audio from live source feeds, and NASA-TV is especially sensitive in regards to public PR. They candy-coat everything boys and girls.
All of the NASA-TV feeds were imaged by cameras aboard NASA-TV chase planes, there were no other feeds.
Also, most folks don't realize, that the when the Endeavor slipped behind the mountain range, they were beginning the over-flight route over the main sections of the classified areas of the PMTC, Pt Magu Naval Base, and a very short distance away as jets-fly, the main sections of Edwards Airforce Base. All no camera zones. So, there was no video over that area. As for NASA-TV 'suddenly' and without announcement, switching to the ISS Mission Control Room?, anyone who watches NASA-TV regularly, knows from experience that there is nothing unusual in that behavior. NASA-TV directors frequently switch back and forth between the mission control rooms for the programs/projects they monitor and televise, one example being the 'Curiousity' Rover program and another, is NASA's Wide-Area-GPS-Seismic program, etc. In this, the editor of the YouTube video is simply making an uniformed assumption in reasoning.
My Gf & I watch TW@N nearly daily. And frequently, I stay up all night doing certain types of engineering work (my own company) as there are no interruptions, and when I do, I tune NASA-TV for company...no commercials and everything is pure science related. My point being, there was nothing unusual that I saw, including those U.F.Objects. I too look for stuff, remember, I've seen alien mecha, up close, so I'm looking too, but frankly I did not see anything that warranted making comment about, aside from them not over-flying the Rocketdyne and the area Rockwell facilities and all the folks who worked on the Space Shuttle there! As for the awkward 'silence, because of no script", hah hah hah hah hah, I don't mean to be rude, but that just hits my funny-bone, hah hah.
Frankly, I would not waste any further time on this matter, because, even if there is something to it, which there very likely isn't in my opinion, what useful information could be gained?
1) event happened in a military air-traffic zone, 2) military won't release RADAR data, or any other data, 3) personnel in all of the attendant aircraft, are either NASA.gov employees, or US Airforce pilots, so there will be no forthcoming information from them either 4) no one on the ground, and there were lots of folks watching the Shuttle & carrier transport aircraft take off, seemed to notice anything unusual, including my friends who were there on the Sierra Hwy watching the takeoff, 5) the only information available, apparently, is more bad video of 'something'.
I can see why folks would think its interesting and worthy to persue even though I disagree about it.
Cheers,
plutronus
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Post by spotless38 on Sept 28, 2012 10:08:53 GMT -6
I will update you after I finish the report . I am almost done
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 12:12:16 GMT -6
Thanks Ron.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 15:52:50 GMT -6
Appreciated Ron
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Post by harp on Sept 28, 2012 18:07:39 GMT -6
I can understand the skepticism. All I can do is what I did, tape the event, make a video of it, then release it. A few things I would like to point out. This was supposed to be a live, 4 hour event covered in it's entirety by NASA. The NASA spokeperson was reading from a prepared script and altered from that pre-planned script once the large, UFO appeared. The plane carrying the Endeavor was to maintain an altitude of 10,000 feet and if you will listen intently to the engines, you can hear them throttle down and also you can see the plane descending to a lower altitude after the large disk appears. When you couple this video with the other video that was recorded at the scene, it makes it's own case. There were 2 F-16 fighter jets, one on each side, accompanying the plane. Just ask yourself this question. The camera was 20 miles from the plane. When the grey object appears and moves from left to right, on a coordinate plane this object covered approximately 124 miles in 8 seconds
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Post by harp on Sept 28, 2012 18:11:36 GMT -6
What drone, or plane does the US government have that flies that fast? And if it's a plane to take pictures, does it need to travel that fast. Watch the video over and over, you will begin to realize they are not birds, nor drones, nor planes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 18:52:48 GMT -6
Harp, no one is judging the video..it's just our practice to try and cover alternatives too. Eliminate the possible then say..wow..it was one. Spotless will add his input soon too. In the meantime, thank you so much for contributing
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Post by skywalker on Sept 28, 2012 19:01:55 GMT -6
Yeah, we like to look at things from every possible angle. That way we don't miss anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 19:39:14 GMT -6
~nods~
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Post by spotless38 on Sept 28, 2012 20:39:39 GMT -6
Hi ya all . OK I had to get some information from a pilot . There is a few things that I had to make sure about . I did not think he decelerated his plane . If he did he would of stalled the plane and cargo and it would of crashed . Checking the flight plan ( via NASA news ) the plane came from San Francisco to Los Angeles . banking to the left ( East ) to go over the mountion and to the airfield . Yes the carrier plane was escorted by two fighter jets and I could see that there was some sea gulls flying near by . The object in question was the black object to the upper right of your screen ( not sure ) could be a UFO . I thought I had my Roxio program where I could tell if it was metal or not . I guess one of my kids borrowed it ( I think ) LOL and didn't tell me . As for the announcer saying " OH! my God " I thought at first I had heard it . But when I put it through my speakers at full volume it was not there . BTW I can thump with them I wish I could of had the whole tape of the from the begining . Harp for what you have to record this . You did a good job and it has a very good rating on your case . . Thans Ron ( spotless)
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Post by skywalker on Sept 28, 2012 20:50:23 GMT -6
It's kind of hard to tell exactly what it is, especially from a video of a video. Even if it was a UFO there is no way to be 100% positive. There are too many possible explanations for what it could be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 22:52:16 GMT -6
As most know I'm a believer that humans are being monitored by another race of beings. Imho, the one thing in particular they would be wanting to know most about us is mankinds ability to explore space and watch our progress as we advance forward. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they were watching the last flight of Endeavor .
I'm sure NASA had a well secured flight path also. There's no telling what kind of drones or other unknown surveillance equipment was being used to monitor both ground and air during this event.
Thanks for sharing harp and welcome to TEOR !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 23:21:45 GMT -6
Thank you Spotless..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 23:24:17 GMT -6
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Post by plutronus on Sept 29, 2012 3:13:19 GMT -6
Yeah, we like to look at things from every possible angle. That way we don't miss anything. Harp,
Welcome to the board.
Sky & JoKelly...yep y'all said it well!
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Post by mia on Sept 30, 2012 5:48:07 GMT -6
Thanks, Harp and Ron!!
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