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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2013 23:33:01 GMT -6
Yea... that's what I was thinking. It could possibly be a miscarried fetus of a primate... which would explain the small size...
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Post by auntym on Apr 12, 2013 11:09:31 GMT -6
www.openminds.tv/analysis-of-the-atacama-humanoid-alien-972/Analysis of the Atacama humanoid alienPosted by: Antonio Huneeus April 11, 2013 We posted earlier this week a story outlining the origin of the alleged tiny ET creature to be showcased in Dr. Steven Greer’s Sirius documentary to be released later this month. We chronicled how this creature was none other than a case known in Chile as the La Noria ET from 2003; the name comes from a ghost town of the nitrate era in this part of Chile’s northern Atacama Desert region. We left the story sort of in a cliff hanger as to what happened to it once it was acquired by a Spanish businessman from Barcelona. We’ve discovered since a number of things, including the original 7 minute TV program about the case aired by Chile’s Megavisión Channel V shortly after the creature’s discovery was published in the local press. You can now see this program on YouTube in Spanish, and it shows exactly the location where the creature was discovered, as well as interviews with Oscar Muñoz, the man who found it, Alejandro Dávalos, the first one to photograph the being, and well known Chilean ufologist Rodrigo Fuenzalida, director of the AION UFO research group. ... ...........................................................The Atacama humanoid’s face. (Credit: IIEE) It’s clear that this program was done in the early stages of the La Noria case, when the little being was owned by the pub owner from the provincial capital of Iquique. He didn’t appear in the program because he probably wanted money to allow filming the creature (that was his modus operandi according to the newspaper La Estrella de Arica) and the TV channel didn’t go along with it. More importantly, we discovered who bought the creature and what happened once it left Chile and traveled to Spain, where it has remained ever since. It turns out that its owner is Ramón Navia-Osorio, a wealthy entrepreneur from Barcelona who runs the IIEE (Spanish acronym for Institute for Exobiological Investigation and Study), a UFO organization formed in 1975. Navia-Osorio was a member for many years prior to becoming the group’s director. We found a very long report, “El Ser Antropomórfico de Atacama” (The Anthropomorphic Being from Atacama), written by Navia-Osorio himself and posted by Julio González in “Realidad OVNI” (UFO Reality), a large UFO news website from Argentina specialized in cases from Latin America, just six days ago, on April 5, 2013. Navia-Osorio begins by recounting his trip to northern Chile ten years earlier, in late 2003, and how he met Oscar Muñoz in the ghost town of La Noria itself, and later Alejandro Dávalos, the young worker who took the first photos of the creature, and other people from the area. The contact between the Chilean and Spanish ufologists was Raúl Núñez Gálvez, a well known Chilean ufologist who lived in Spain for many years and was a member of the IIEE He, too, traveled with Navia-Osorio to La Noria. The Spanish researcher provides initially some additional historical and paranormal details about this area with ghost towns from the booming nitrate industry of the late 19th century. One curious historical detail is that Charles Darwin, the famous father of the theory of evolution, visited La Noria in 1835. We also mentioned in our previous story that paranormal activities seem to be common in this area, and the Spanish researcher mentions this fact as well. He specifically claims that one of the things seen by the locals are ghostly apparitions of 19th century funeral processions, which then vanish. CONTINUE READING: www.openminds.tv/analysis-of-the-atacama-humanoid-alien-972/
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Post by auntym on Apr 12, 2013 11:12:27 GMT -6
i believe this is a real alien body...
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Post by sunbow on Apr 12, 2013 11:47:19 GMT -6
One has to wonder if this is an unknown entity: is it extraterrestrial or some terrestrial creature with enough intelligence to hide from humans?
I think that the idea of DNA existing on many worlds makes sense, since RNA is formed in interstellar gas clouds and virus are also thought to come to Earth on meteorite and commet fragments, as well as possibly the ever falling cosmic dust.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 13, 2013 18:57:27 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Apr 14, 2013 15:03:58 GMT -6
DNA Proof of 6" Tall Extraterrestrial: 2013 Published on Apr 9, 2013 Six inch Tall Alien believed to be 5 to 7 years old was found in the Atacama Desert in Chile a few years ago. This ET has been tested and the DNA proves this little being is not human or related to anything here on earth which makes it "Extraterrestrial"... Watch the NEW documentary featuring this ET called "Sirius" www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/
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Post by sunbow on Apr 14, 2013 18:14:55 GMT -6
Wow, that is great news....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 6:23:16 GMT -6
After reading various articles about this I still am not convinced it's not an unknown specie of primate either still in existence in the remote jungles or deserts of South America or maybe a type that recently became extinct perhaps ? I'm hoping they provide details of the tests results and the names of the medical doctors/examiners . It will be interesting to see what response the medical community provides concerning this subject after it has been reviewed and follow up tests and analysis have been conducted and completed. It would be absolutely fantastic to be able to finally show proof having solid evidence without any shadow of a doubt to the world instead of trying to explain it to people who naturally have doubts. Maybe this lil dude holds the smoking gun,,,,maybe. I honestly have never liked discussing or disclosing what happened that night those 3 beings came. The only thing positive about any of that night was that it answered a huge question I had about the universe that I have always enjoyed observing . It is solid personal proof that life exists elsewhere as I had long suspected and surprisingly they were bi pedaled with similar traits to humans ! I would have never guessed they would be similar in structural design. Until that moment I never thought about, suspected, or even imagined in my wildest thought that I would be abducted, visited, intruded upon, whatever it's called. It's a guess but I feel that the planet where the greys are from most likely currently have and had several other varieties of species with subtle differences which have adapted and survived throughout their evolutionary stages. If this is the real deal,,,there will be many questions.
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Post by auntym on Apr 15, 2013 8:45:23 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Apr 17, 2013 12:02:41 GMT -6
www.chron.com/business/press-releases/article/Sirius-Film-Team-Announces-Atacama-Humanoid-Age-4440181.php Sirius Film Team Announces Atacama Humanoid Age & Sex Determined[/color] PRWeb | April 17, 2013 The team behind the forthcoming documentary 'Sirius,' which features the work of Dr. Steve Greer and his effort to drive disclosure regarding UFO's, ET's and their technology, today announces additional conclusive DNA & Scientific analysis findings: The 'Atacama Humanoid' featured in 'Sirius,' was male and survived post-birth 6 to 8 years. Los Angeles ,CA (PRWEB) April 16, 2013 Last week, the upcoming documentary film team behind 'Sirius' released an announcement about the scientific study of a DNA sequenced humanoid of unknown classification, known as the 'Atacama Humanoid.' The announcement went viral immediately, quickly becoming the most popular story on the Huffington Post for three days, generating 4,300 comments, 32,000 FB 'Likes' and additional coverage by various other news agencies. The film's trailer on YouTube, has now generated a combined 1.1 million views. In response to the numerous questions raised by the film's trailer release, Dr. Steven Greer and the team behind 'Sirius' are now revealing more details about the results of the scientific studies that are documented in the film. A DNA sample from bone marrow extracted from the specimen, was prepared, sequenced, and analyzed by a top research scientist at a prestigious American university. For security purposes, 'Sirius' has withheld details on the university and researcher, but will be revealing both along with additional DNA analysis results from the 'Atacama Humanoid' on or before the release of 'Sirius' on the 22nd of April. Today, the team has elected to share the following additional 'Atacama Humanoid' conclusive findings: 'Ata' was male and survived post-birth 6 to 8 years.Speaking specifically to Internet controversy over 'Ata,'..While it's size led many to suggest that it was an aborted fetus, bone density and epiphyseal plate studies have already concluded that this creature survived post-birth 6 to 8 years. There will be considerably more DNA analysis results information released to the public on 'Ata,' the 'Atacama Humanoid,' as the team is calling him, between today and the 22nd. In addition to documenting this ongoing scientific study, 'Sirius' explores the subject of UFO and ET visitation, the disclosure of secret UFO files, and the investigation of advanced energy and propulsion technologies extraterrestrial civilizations are using to travel to Earth. Based on an abundance of evidence and credible witness testimony, gathered across two decades by physician and Disclosure Project founder Dr. Steven Greer, 'Sirius' reveals how and why these energy technologies are being suppressed in favor of maintaining the current petrochemical system. 'Sirius' takes the oft-ridiculed or misrepresented subject of UFOs and extraterrestrials and subjects it to an unprecedented level of scientific rigor, as evidenced by the credentials of the scientists behind the study of the 'Atacama Humanoid,' capable of spearheading the ground-breaking scientific revelation of a never-before classified intelligent species. The 'Sirius' film premieres in Los Angeles at the prestigious Regal Premiere Cinema at LA Live on Earth Day and will be released online and in select theaters worldwide, starting April 22. To view the most recent 'Sirius' trailer and for more information, visit: www.SiriusDisclosure.comwww.Sirius.Neverendinglight.comFor the original version on PRWeb visit: www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2013/4/prweb10641553.htm
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Post by skywalker on Apr 17, 2013 14:13:13 GMT -6
Supposedly greer is going to be presenting the DNA evidence at the mufon symposium this summer
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Post by auntym on Apr 20, 2013 14:26:24 GMT -6
ufos.about.com/b/2013/04/20/ufo-documentary-reveals-unknown-humanoid.htm UFO Documentary Reveals Unknown Humanoid[/color] By Billy Booth, About.com Guide April 20, 2013
On April 22, the new documentary by Steven Greer will premier. The film, titled "Sirius" makes some fantastic claims. You may have see the photos of the very small alien being around the Internet. The film also promises scientific proof that the being is "not of this world." Greer says: "There is a chance that we may be able to include in the film "Sirius" the scientific testing of a possible Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE) that has been recovered and is deceased. This EBE is in the possession of a cooperative institute desiring further scientific evaluation of the possible ET." See a preview of the upcoming film at UFO Documentary Reveals Unknown Humanoid Claims: UFO documentary reveals humanoid of unknown classification Published on Apr 7, 2013 The film is set to premiere in Hollywood on April 22, and will then be followed by a limited theatrical release. It will also be launched video on demand on the Yekra video platform and Yekra's Affiliate Connect customized social media networks. The film's funding was mostly obtained through crowd sourcing on the Kickstarter website, and according to the filmmakers press release it has been the "highest documentary crowd-funding raise in history." Read the rest of this article and for more information see the links below. www.openminds.tv/ufo-documenta... Sirius The Movie www.youtube.com/user/SiriusThe... Sirius Theatrical Trailer - Dr. Steven Greer, UFO's, Extraterrestrials, Alternative Energy ... Press Release: www.prweb.com/releases/2013/4/... You can follow the film's progress and access the video on demand later this month via the film's website: siriusdisclosure.com- - - Background of UFO documentary's humanoid alien revealed As Muñoz dug in the area around La Noria's abandoned church, he came across a white cloth tied by a violet ribbon, finding inside "a strange skeleton no bigger than 15 cm [the size of a pen]. It was a creature with hard teeth, a bulging head with an additional odd bulge on top. Its body was scaly and of dark color. Unlike humans, it had nine ribs," stated the article in La Estrella de Arica. www.openminds.tv/background-of... ufos.about.com/b/2013/04/20/ufo-documentary-reveals-unknown-humanoid.htm
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Post by auntym on Apr 21, 2013 11:00:55 GMT -6
theozfiles.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/ata-atacam-alien-story-another.htmlSunday, April 21, 2013 "ATA" - the Atacama "alien" story - another "cautionary tale" in the making or proof? Bill Chalker Given my advocacy of using DNA and forensic science techniques in assisting in the investigation of controversial UFO and alien events and claims (see my 2005 book “Hair of the Alien – DNA and other forensic evidence of alien abduction” which focused on the Peter Khoury case, but also included other evidence examined by the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG)) it will be hardly surprising that I have taken an interest in the claims associated with reports about a DNA study linked with a diminutive “alien” body as part of the Steven Greer “Sirius”documentary to be released on 22 April 2013. Perhaps then we may be in a position to see if the extraordinary claims being made in the publicity related to the documentary are backed up by compelling DNA data and related evidence. I soon realised that I had come across the so called Atacama specimen before, under the name of the La Noria “alien.” I had thought based on the information from a few years ago that researchers had concluded that the specimen had little or no connection with UFO or alien events, and may have been a mummified human fetus. Yet now it was being described as having yielded DNA sequences through a group of scientists and medical team, whose credentials are being described in the SIRIUS documentary publicity as “eye-opening,” and that the results were “paradigm shifting physical evidence of a medically and scientifically analaysed DNA sequenced humanoid creature of unknown classification found in the Atacama desert, Chile.” Extraordinary claims, indeed. The detail supporting these statements, namely the detail of the DNA sequences and the methodology used, when revealed, along with related data will clearly be subject to a lot of controversy and discussion. Perhaps it will be diluted in the broader issues that will be covered in the “Sirius” documentary, after all the focus will be the controversial agenda of Dr Steven Greer’s research. Come 22 April we may know more. CONTINUE READING: theozfiles.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/ata-atacam-alien-story-another.html
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Post by auntym on Apr 25, 2013 11:58:43 GMT -6
www.sightingsreport.com/blog_posts/review-sirius-ufo-documentaryApril 25, 2013 Review: Sirius UFO Documentary By Harold Daniel Eager to see what was in store, I stayed up past my bedtime and watched Sirius when it was released Monday night. I recommend it. In some ways it offers a new, fresh perspective on this subject. If you are here reading this - curious enough to visit a UFO website to read a review of a UFO documentary - you should consider watching it. Sirius offers an opportunity to start looking at the UFO topic in some new ways. It leaves behind the typical nuts-and-bolts format of analyzing every detail of a case looking for the smoking gun, and accepts that extra terrestrials are here based on the existing evidence. "It is a foregone conclusion by most broad-minded people that we are not alone in this universe... There's so much evidence out there that even if less than one percent is true, that would be enough to collapse the current paradigm and change the whole planet." Steven Greer and his team are taking several different concepts and connecting the dots. Some of these ideas include: ancient alien theory, the universal mind, zero point (free) energy, the military industrial complex, and the suppression of new energy technologies. In addition, there is the DNA testing of the Atacama humanoid. While some sites are reporting that you may be disappointed to find out it is human, they are not telling the full story. Dr. Garry Nolan is very clear in the film that the computer will attempt to classify the data based on known parameters. There is enough of a match with human DNA that, yes, the computer places it into the "human" classification. But he warns that if you don't pay attention to the unmatched genes "you may throw the baby out with the bath water." He says that the answer is neither finished nor easy, and the questions remain about what genetics are causing the anomalies. He seems legitimately surprised the DNA results did not immediately provide an answer. Like the film Thrive, evidence is shown that demonstrates ruthless suppression and control by the military industrial complex. However, Sirius left me with hope of a way out. Armed with independent researchers who are not afraid to openly push the boundaries of new energy systems, the new paradigm of discoveries coming up from the grassroots, and acceptance of the power of consciousness, the people can take control and bypass traditional authority figures. MORE: www.sightingsreport.com/blog_posts/review-sirius-ufo-documentary
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Post by auntym on Apr 25, 2013 12:01:33 GMT -6
www.unknowncountry.com/news/tiny-russian-specimen-similiar-greer-alien Tiny Russian Specimen Similar to Greer AlienThursday, April 25, 2013 In 2007, a tiny body surfaced in Russia that appears to have been similar to the Atacama specimen featured in Dr. Steven Greer's Sirius Documentary. The Russian specimen was said to have been found in 1996 in the Urals by an elderly woman. It was alive at the time. Vadim Chernobrov, a Russian UFO investigator, said that a study of the remains carried out at the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Moscow in 2007 found no genetic match with the laboratory's available samples. The body is said to have vanished shortly before a Japanese TV crew arrived in the area hoping to make a documentary about it, and the elderly woman who found it was killed in a hit-and-run accident. The Japanese crew offered cash for information, but was besieged by storytellers and abandoned the project. The death of the being was investigated by Major Vladimir Bendelin of the Kyshtym regional police authority, and was initially believed by a urologist at a local hospital, Dr. Igor Uskov, to be a 20 week old aborted fetus. The hospital's chief anatomist, Dr. Stanislav Samoshkin, said that the skull of the specimen had only four bones, while a human skull has six. He also observed that there were other abnormalities, and concluded that the remains were not human. Despite a reward of $200,000 being offered by the Japanese TV crew for the return of the specimen, it has never resurfaced. However, a visual comparison between it and the Atacama specimen does suggest similarities, certainly in size and possibly in anatomy. A number of stories have appeared in the Russian English language press about the specimen, among them one from Pravda in 2007. english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-03-2007/88603-alien_dna-0/#The story of the Russian alien is also explored in Kelly Bell's 2007 book, Visitors: a New Look at UFOs. Read the original source: www.unknowncountry.com/news/tiny-russian-specimen-similiar-greer-alien#ixzz2RUw4szKS
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Post by skywalker on Apr 25, 2013 17:16:54 GMT -6
Did anybody watch the Sirius film? I haven't had a chance to see it yet but there seem to be a lot of negative comments about it. Most people say that it is just a rehash of old footage and that the "alien" is nothing more than a tiny human or a fetus. Supposedly there was a doctor on the film who also came to that conclusion.
I believe that Greer is claiming that the DNA tests show that it is classified as human only because the computers are programmed to match the closest thing and there were enough human similarities to fool the computer. Supposedly there are a lot of genetic anomalies that suggest it is not human, or at least a new species of Earth-based humanoid.
I suspected all along that it was not an alien. Maybe a tiny race of humanoid creatures but not alien. All of those myths and legends about fairies, leprechauns, gnomes and other such tiny people must have originated from something. Most myths are based on at least a little bit of fact.
I'll make some more comments on the film after I have actually watched it.
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Post by auntym on Apr 26, 2013 11:24:12 GMT -6
english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-03-2007/88603-alien_dna-0/# Russian geneticists to reveal alien’s DNA mystery24.03.2007Scientists may soon unravel the mystery of the “Uralian alien,” a tiny creature found near the town of Kyshtym in the Urals. Scientists carried out five series of laboratory studies investigating the DNA samples of the creature’s biological material. The latest study conducted by a Moscow-based Institute of Forensic Medicine produced sensational results. “A gene discovered in the DNA samples doesn’t correspond with any genes pertaining to humans or anthropoid apes,” said Vadim Chernobrov, a coordinator with the public research center Kosmopoisk. “No gene samples available at the laboratory match the gene. The experts in DNA research haven’t come across any creatures with such an elongated DNA molecule,” Chernobrov added. Scientists have been looking for an explanation of the Kyshtym phenomenon for more than ten years. The story began in the summer of 1996 after a miniature creature was found in the Chelyabinsk region. The find was soon dubbed the “Kyshtym alien.” A local medical examiner who performed an autopsy concluded that the dead body was neither human nor animal in nature. Ufologists regarded the Kyshtym dwarf as a clear-cut case of the extraterrestrial. The clergy believe the dwarf was a demon. The creature was still alive when it was found by an old and barely literate woman. She was the only one who gave the dwarf a human name – Alioshenka (a diminutive of the Russian name “Alexei” – ed. note). The curse of Alioshenka The dwarf from Kyshtym did not do any harm to anybody while he was in the land of the living. Some really weird things began to happen following the death of the creature. The old lady, a “godmother” of Alioshenka the Alien, died in a hit-and-run accident. The woman was knocked down by a car just a few days before a team of researchers arrived in the town from Moscow. The body of the dwarf vanished without a trace. An investigator assigned to the case is reported to have handed the corpse to some perpetrators who walked off with it. A Japanese TV crew arrived in Kyshtym to do a documentary on Alioshenka. The Japanese posted a reward of $200,000 for information on the whereabouts of the stolen creature. However, their attempts to locate the body of the dwarf ended in failure. A minute piece of the dead body was the only hard evidence the Japanese somehow managed to recover. The Japanese displayed the object for the benefit of the cameras. Academician Mark Milkhiker looked into the Kyshtym phenomenon on location. He carefully examined the area in which the dwarf was found. Milkhiker fell seriously ill shortly after he returned to Moscow. He died of a sudden heart attack while in hospital. The above Vadim Chernobrov was also taken ill four years after the discovery of the dwarf. A mysterious disease paralyzed him from the waist down. Doctors were unable to explain the cause of his disease. It was Chernobrov who found a piece of fabric used by the old lady for wrapping around the dwarf on the day she found him. Were all those misfortunes a coincidence? Did the alien really put a curse on everyone who tried to solve his mystery? It is clear that Deguchi Masao, a producer of the Japanese documentary on Alioshenka, fell victim to his own naivety that borders on idiocy. What did he do? He promised to pay cash to locals who could share their memories of the dwarf with his crew. Needless to say, the news spread across the town like wildfire. Dozens of bums and drunkards formed a long line around the house where the Japanese were interviewing “eyewitnesses.” It took the producer a while to realize that all those incredible accounts of the event were a fake. I have been following the Kyshtym phenomenon since it came to light in 1996. I visited Kyshtym several times to get firsthand information from those who were part of the story. Now it is about time I dusted off my old notebooks containing real eyewitness accounts so that we can separate a few grains of truth from a collection of assorted conjectures and speculations. CONTINUE READING: english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/24-03-2007/88603-alien_dna-0/#
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Post by auntym on Apr 26, 2013 12:20:58 GMT -6
www.techi.com/2013/04/is-greers-sirius-alien-real/Is Greer's Sirius alien real? by Rocco Penn April 24, 2013 Either there�s a reasonable explanation for it all or �Ata� is the greatest biological find in human history. Steven Greer�s �alien�, a 6-inch tall corpse found in the Atacama Desert of Chili a decade ago, Was revealed Monday in a documentary called Sirius that left many extraterrestrial-life enthusiasts disappointed. The documentary does go into details about space and inter-dimensional travel and highlights the importance of understanding the possibilities surrounding life from other planets or dimensions. It takes a political turn and discusses how an oil-based world economy and corruption at the highest levels of government around the world prevent the human race from realizing these possibilities, even covering them up. That should be enough to keep the alien conspiracy theorists at least a little happy with the end result even if the documentary does little to show that the body is that of an extra-terrestrial. The documentary was driven for the most part by Greer, a former ER doctor who formed the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence (CSETI) and The Disclosure Project. MORE PICTURES: www.techi.com/2013/04/is-greers-sirius-alien-real/
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 26, 2013 17:52:16 GMT -6
I have no doubt that this is a real biological entity. I just heard an interview with Greer and one of the Harvard scientists that are participating in the studies of this creature. He and the other scientists all state that this is not a hoax and is a real biological humman looking being of some kind. The Harvard guy, Dr. Nolan, ( among others) are all taking this as a human case, not alien, and are finding that 9-10 % of its DNA have been kicked out of the machine saying that part isn't of any known human DNA, but as for the rest it is. They have checked for gene mutations such as dwarfism and progeria. It's bone density growth has shown that it was 6-8 yrs. old, and even had some teeth to examine as well. It is not a fetus, not genetically inherent to any known defects, yet is only 6 inches long. All of the specialists find this to be very 'peculiar'. Also, it's head to body ratio is off, the head is 2 times larger than it should be for the body size. It also has 4 crested peeks to the top of it's skull which at this time is unexplainable. They believe it to be a human species never known of before, I personally, am holding out for it to be of the fae family, which I have always felt like are related to us.
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Post by sunbow on Apr 26, 2013 18:13:36 GMT -6
Here is another claim this is a human, but I find that absurd: www.openminds.tv/scientist-says-atacama-humanoid-is-human-but-still-a-mystery-988/The questions are still open, but a human living at this size with this structure is not an option I would consider without tons of proof. An alien Hybrid: maybe. If it has some DNA matching humans the other possibility is that some of our DNA came from it (alien). However, the most likely is another hominid branch, possibly related to Marmosets... ?
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Post by skywalker on Apr 26, 2013 18:43:07 GMT -6
The skeptics also claimed the starchild skull was human but I don't agree with that at all. That skull is unlike anything on this planet alive or dead. Some people say that only the mother was human but if true then what the heck was the father? Some people are also making the same claim about this little six-inch "alien" saying that it had a human mother. If that is true then it would appear that there were a lot of very advanced genetic experiments going on in prehistoric South America. A lot of skeletons and skulls with weird genetic anomalies were turning up in that area around the same time period. And remember this is also one of the areas where ritual skull binding was practiced. I still think that all of those things have something in common and it may just be some "outside" influence...if you know what I mean.
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Post by lois on Apr 26, 2013 19:50:49 GMT -6
Why then did the bone pediatric specialist state it's bones were of a 6 to 8 year old? Some one is making them turn the table around. Does not want the public to think we have a link here on earth to ET.
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Post by auntym on Apr 26, 2013 21:42:50 GMT -6
i think there is a cover-up concerning this little alien being... a lot of disinformation flowing... these little beings have been found in russia and south america...
i also think most life in the universe is humanoid (2 arms, 2 legs) ...
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Post by lois on Apr 26, 2013 23:00:53 GMT -6
i think there is a cover-up concerning this little alien being... a lot of disinformation flowing... these little beings have been found in russia and south america... i also think most life in the universe is humanoid (2 arms, 2 legs) ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 1:16:11 GMT -6
Scientist says Atacama humanoid is human but still a mystery Human not alien according to the scientists. Anomalies happen in humans too. Dwarfism..gigantism..people born with gills and webbed digits..birth defects that make people look alien...hydro-cephalic children who's skulls are horribly misshapen...people with hair all over their bodies..People with none..albinos and other oddities. We may want to see alien artifacts..but there still has to be proof involved somewhere...not just wishful thinking. All of these things are very interesting but not necessarily cosmic
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Post by dawnoftime on Apr 27, 2013 4:02:08 GMT -6
I agree with sunbow. Honestly, as an anthropologist who has worked with primates a lot I am feeling like this looks like a pygmy marmoset skeleton that has been altered and then mummified. I am keeping an open mind, but that sure is what it looks like. You guys can look at pictures of pygmy marmosets and their skeletons on google and tell me what you think...
I hope I'm wrong, though.LOL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 10:00:51 GMT -6
I would be more inclined to believe that Sunbow than an itty bitty alien. I have always believed that the stories of brownies, fairies, leprechauns and other little folk have to have some basis in reality because they cross so many cultural lines. When so many countries have stories similar..I figure there has to be some validity to it. Of course that's why I believe in Santa
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Post by plutronus on Apr 27, 2013 11:48:55 GMT -6
SunBow,
Thanks for the citation. It seems reasonable to presume based on your choice of a handle and that of a few of your past posts here, that you are in some manner affiliated with Native American culture. May I ask your perception of the book? Is it a good treatise? Do you recommend others read it?
As you rightly point out, many of the old Earth cultures held legends regarding the little "Fae-People", the "wee-people" (Scottish), "nymphs" (Celtic), "sylephs" (Germany), "bakraht`im" (Arabic), 'berzhong' (Cambodia), et cetera, and are the basis of the plethora of stories of the Faeries, and in modern perception, possibly the most notable popular one here in the US, being "Tinkerbell", a six inch tall winged faerie popularized by cartoonist Walt Disney. Faeries for the most part are ideas of the old world.
As everyone knows there has been much fictional literature written presenting these cultural notions along with much creative fabrications in fairy-tales written by romanticists.
Through out history there have been those who were interested to preserve how these legends developed and fortunately a few books were written in the old narratives, else much more would have been lost, as all things of old fade into the halls of time.
I read a few books on the subject, mostly fueled by through the opening of my mind via Mystical studies. Fantasy encourages possibilities, while reality constrains.
Most of the books that I've read, regard the philosophical cultural period of the renaissance. The literature, as were not written as 'proofs', are presented as 'compendiums', collections of observations of historical perceptions of a period, information gathered from the 'modern' literature of the author's time, their perception of the old'n days.
In any case, I suspect that the books that I read are likely out-of-print, as I found them in odd places and having read them in my youth. I had a few other books that I'd like to cite, but alas, I can't find them, or remember their titles and I sadly I don't recall what became of them?
Here's the few that I have/had/recall:
"Scottish Folk-lore and Folk Life", Mackenzie, Donald, Glasgow, Scotland, 1935
"Fairy Tales, Now First Collected, --On Pygmies & On Faeries", Ritson, J, London, 1831,
"The Discarded Image: An Introduction to Medieval and Renaissance Literature", C. S. Lewis, 1964
And of course, I must include this one....another compendium of excellent 'old' historical vantage on these and other 'similar' subjects, and which is available today (2013) via Amazon...I highly recommend:
"Three Books of Occult Philosophy" (formerly, 'De occulta philosophiae') by the German historian, Cornelius Agrippa von Nettishiem, written in 1510, edited with forward by Majician Donald Tyson, ~1995
I also tend to agree with your position regarding "absolutes". As mostly, one should be reticent in offering opinion when not too well informed, else they likely will remove doubt from folks minds.
plutronus
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