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Post by auntym on Nov 9, 2012 12:34:15 GMT -6
www.67notout.com/2010/10/ufo-and-alien-sexual-encounters.html02 October, 2010
UFO And Alien Sexual Encounters[/color] by Mike Perry alien encounterFollowing my post An Alien Abduction With A Sexual Encounter it's clear from the response that this is far from unique within the annals of UFO and alien stories. Here are some such encounters from British women and men. Jane Murphy, from Birstall in West Yorkshire, went to bed one night as usual but woke a few hours later completely naked, within a peculiar room surrounded by tall aliens. She estimated them to be about seven feet tall. In her words one of the alien figures 'seduced' her. She described her experience: "I looked into his big, black eyes and knew that it was going to happen. Suddenly he was lying on the table and I was lying on top of him. We were embracing but lying perfectly still. I remember noticing his smell. It wasn't very pleasant, not a human smell at all ... I couldn't tell if he had any clothes on or not because I simply looked into his eyes. All I can remember is those gigantic black eyes ... It seemed so strange lying on top of this stranger ... and enjoying it." Afterwards she was examined by some of the other aliens and then - suddenly - she was back in her own bed. Her obvious reaction was to think that this was all a dream but, as she showered the following morning, she found unusual puncture wounds where the aliens had injected her. Jane visited her doctor and was given antibiotics to cure an infection which lasted for several months. She wasn't pregnant but was plagued by nightmares where she gave birth to a blond, black eyed alien. Another case, this time male, was Ted Johnson's experience in the Essex countryside. He was travelling down a lonely lane in his car in September 1985 when he became aware of a light in the distance. He stopped his vehicle, got out and then, in his words: "I saw the light and heard a low whistling sound. The light became so bright it hurt my eyes. Then I was hit by a green light which knocked me to the ground, partially blinding me." UFO As his sight cleared he saw a woman with "large eyes, a small nose and just a slit for a mouth. She seemed to be glowing." There were also other aliens behind her. CONTINUE READING: www.67notout.com/2010/10/ufo-and-alien-sexual-encounters.html
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Post by paulette on Nov 9, 2012 21:19:42 GMT -6
Anyone here think they have or had an alien lover? Not I. Athough.....
In a dream a long time ago I dreamed that there was something white outside my second floor window (light). My daughter meanwhile was dreaming that there was something outside her window (same side of the house) on the ground floor. A part of a dream I remembered about this was - a man who was a mentor and lover of mine showed up but I sorta knew it wasn't "him". He agreed with me (using language just like he would have said as a human): "You're right Babe. But I wanted to be welcome."
If aliens can shapechange (or change our perceptions later) then sex alien interactions could be confused with memories of being with one's boyfriend in the meadow. (I shuddered as I typed meadow. Nevermind).
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Post by skywalker on Nov 9, 2012 21:27:13 GMT -6
I don't recall anything sexual going on when I got zapped. I don't really remember much of what happened though. Don't know if I would want to either. I do remember reading in John Mack's book Abduction that some abductees had conscious memories of very romantic and sexually thrilling encounters with beautiful alien beings yet when put under hypnosis the romantic encounters actually turned out to be horrifying and humiliating taking of sperm and egg samples, usually by some painful mechanical process. It could be that the romantic encounters are just screen memories emplanted by the abductors to mask what really happened. All the more reason why I would not want to know...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 11:24:07 GMT -6
I'm not convinced there ever has been an alien sexual encounter. Much of our humanity thinks in sexual terms but that doesn't mean others do. The ones I ran into showed distaste at even a physical touch..and showed no outward signs of sex organs at all. I know that doesn't mean they are all that way but I question other races coming here for the sex. Pull up to hooters in your space ship? If they are that advanced..test tubes are much more clinical and sterile. But we are more motivated that way..it's all over TV and movies..in our restaurants...every where you look sex sells. Rapists and pedophiles show it's strong in our genetics to the point of a lack of control and may even be a mental aberration in some. Many women use sex to get what they want..makes them feel powerful and attractive..maybe they think aliens would too. And our brains, might require something we can relate to a bit more than 'alien guinea pig'. Perhaps the brain fills in the blanks by trying to make it a acceptable (or familiar) encounter. Then too...a lot of mamma's tell their daughters that sex without love is wrong..(in an effort to keep them prudently pure)..so the next cover on that romance novel you see in the store could be a woman in a swoon in some Grey's arms...in a word...ewwwwwwwwwww.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 12:33:15 GMT -6
Hey cutie,,,lookin good and grey tonight,,,why don't you take off them,,, big dark shades and,,,beam down to my place ,,,,,lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 13:09:25 GMT -6
Laughingggggggg!! Husky...'hey big oops...lil fella'
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Post by skywalker on Nov 10, 2012 15:03:35 GMT -6
I agree that there probably haven't been any alien/human sexual encounters other than harvesting samples for whatever genetic experiments they are doing. They supposedly use machines to do that. The sexual memories are probably either screen memories like John Mack suggested, or the human brain just trying to cope with what happened by making the memories a little more pleasant...or at least endurable. Of course I suppose it is possible that if the aliens were human in appearance like the Nordics supposedly are then it would be possible. Perhaps they are very closely related to humans. I just had a thought pop into my brain. What if the Nordics are the result of the genetic experiments the greys are doing? Suppose that is what they have been creating...an advanced race of "super-humans." We have always assumed that the greys were trying to cross-breed humans with greys but that may not be the case at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 16:54:07 GMT -6
Depends on what 'version' you want to believe..one says the 'Nordics' are visitors from the Pleiades...wanting to save us until they got involved in some civil war (some say with Grey's) and now only keep an occasional peek at us. I don't think the Grey's are doing anything beneficial for 'us'.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 10, 2012 19:41:22 GMT -6
FYI: Pleiades is a galactic womb: a place where stars are being born. Very interesting and unique in the night sky, and therefore the subject of myth in many ancient cultures in the northern hemisphere. Reality: it is so hot and radioactive that a quartz crystal would vaporize into a plasma in a bit over an instant. This is a prime example of how Internet mythology embodies modern mythology. No life form of carbon, nor of any material form that could exist in the cold realms of the rest of the galaxy comes from the Pleiades, unless it is a pure thought form or something not tied to the physical dimensions. It could be philosophical, like we are star dust and so we all originated from stars which originated from such places long, long ago...
We are wired and brainwashed with sexuality, yet we cannot open discuss it. Our race is breeding like fools: we are not able to control ourselves and stabilize the population growth that is our demise. I can assure you that there is a sexual component to abduction. Yet what it is about, I am not sure. They could be collecting our seed for breeding beings for other places or reasons, genetic entrepreneurship. They could be collecting our seed for a new phase if we become extinct or sterile. They could just be traumatizing us, to try and awaken us into sexual maturity.
The probability that they are seeking romantic encounters is so low as to make the idea seem absurd. There is the mythology that the poor grays are a dying race and need us to help revitalize their species, IMO this is a comforting delusion: they are powerful and numerous, they do what they want, they don't need us, but they use us.
I believe they have been tinkering with our genetics for ages, following some family lines in developing and testing new traits. The families chosen are diverse and no one has yet identified the reasons some are chosen, though many here have identified common traits which we share. I think they have a goal. There is a future state that is extremely powerful which they are herding us toward. Perhaps it has to do with the fabric of time and the latent ability for humans to receive information from the future.
Again we are trained to avoid open discussion of sexuality, so there may be something in these topics which they do not want us to consider. Note that they provided the initial basis for our religions (IMO), which all have huge sexual brainwashing aspects. Without an unfiltered view of sexuality, how will we ever control our population explosion, which has lead to environmental destruction. Perhaps we are terraforming the planet for a new phase (scary because we will not fit into that environment). More likely, many breeders means many genetic combinations for them to search through, for what they are seeking. To put it another way, many chances that some family lines will embody the future state they are herding us toward.
They have spent a very long time and huge expenditures of energy tinkering with our genetics and our minds: something is very important to them about the human experiment.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 10, 2012 20:10:46 GMT -6
I agree. There is something very important about it, otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it after all these decades (or possibly even centuries). The question still remains what are they doing and why? I doubt that it is for our benefit. I doubt they will ever tell us either.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 10, 2012 21:23:06 GMT -6
Our benefit is a very abstract thing.
We are being manipulated and the manipulators would probably have a much harder time going about it if we knew why, so I agree, they are not likely to tell us. Question is, are we smart, clever, or intuitive enough to figure it out. I doubt smart or clever enough, but if we keep on topic, we may be intuitive enough to catch the general nature of it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 23:08:45 GMT -6
I didn't originate the Pleiades 'theory' I copied it from the web. There are Pleiadian's, Andromedians, Betelgeusian's and a few others..I think in all some 78 different races visiting our planet. Why it's a wonder we're not stumbling all over them. That's me being sarcastic. I've no doubt we have been visited and are watched. If you've been abducted and you remember it..then you know it's not just reproduction that interests them. They took spinal fluid, brain cells (through the eye socket), blood samples, intestinal tract samples, skin samples, urine, feces and either seminal fluid or ova. More of the thing a pathologist or biologist would take for a complete physical picture. They seem to have profiled a specific type of human but..knowing that does not do anyone a bit of good..it just adds to the frustration. People have to make up their own minds about this. Some need to see them in some 'good guy' light, some want to see invaders, angels or something holy and some just want an explanation for what happened to them on that day their lives crossed into the unexplained. I think...the answers are just around the corner.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 11, 2012 8:43:56 GMT -6
O know you did not come up with this Jo, but I just wanted to point out how some people believe all kinds of modern mythology that is BS. Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) eighth brightest star in Orion and a corner of the winter triangle: as a distinctly red star (red supergiant), it ate any hospitable planets orbiting it eons ago. It is thought to be less than 10million years old, chance of life evolving there to a point where it could become space faring and still be surviving again is to slim to consider. Because it is prominent in primitive myths, it now exists in Internet mythology. This is my point, there is so much which someone made up and some other people take as fact, that the whole subject of visitation comes into question.
Thank you for you elaboration of the detailed medical exam. I cannot remember any of that part, but felt sexually violated without knowing why. At the time I was just ending my first real relationship and was already in major depression and sexual confusion. I was caught in the mythology that someone should only have one lover (wife) per lifetime. I was an emotional wreak, a bit suicidal. Weird time for them to step in, though it may have been opportunist, as I was way out in the wilderness, planing on just being alone in nature for a while to contemplate. My life has always been a quest for enlightenment from a young age and sexual abstinence was a principle that I adopted young and took a while for me to realize that it is unnatural and as contrary to spirituality as the other extreme of casual sexuality. Somehow all this seems very related to the abduction experience, yet again, may have just been a synchronicity in my life.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 11, 2012 9:25:39 GMT -6
Thank you for you elaboration of the detailed medical exam. I cannot remember any of that part, but felt sexually violated without knowing why. At the time I was just ending my first real relationship and was already in major depression and sexual confusion. I was caught in the mythology that someone should only have one lover (wife) per lifetime. I was an emotional wreak, a bit suicidal. Weird time for them to step in, though it may have been opportunist, as I was way out in the wilderness, planing on just being alone in nature for a while to contemplate. That is something else a lot of us seem to have in common. They zapped us at a time of emotional turmoil...when we were probably the most vulnerable. I remember how we were once discussing how emotional distress might amplify the psychic abilities that we have which could make it easier for them to find us. We seem to be drawing them to us without even realizing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 12:27:53 GMT -6
I love geeks Sky when people are at their emotional weakest..they project that weakness and are more vulnerable to suggestion. The day my friend and I rode..we were not thinking about going there that morning..we just ended up there as though we had decided on it. And I was having lots of emotional issues with my tyrant of a father at the time. They use our emotion against us. Any very good psychic is emotional and usually pretty empathic too. They (grey's) are not emotional beings which has always made me think (along with a couple of other things) that they are 'hatched' in some lab for other beings who perhaps can't travel. Psychics without emotions and morals would miss a lot. I have (and most people do who are psychic) what you might call spirit guides. If I give a reading to someone they provide the link..that couldn't happen without my emotion. Heck I cry almost every time I read or pray or ask for guidance. They say...God hears tears. I know this is true. Anyway..Grey's communicate mentally but don't have the emotions...maybe they are interested in acquiring them? I really don't know their interest in us but its how they lojack us.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 19:22:47 GMT -6
I find it odd that I have spent most of my life seeking abstinence from sexual encounters, yet I have known about sex longer then I knew it wouldn't hurt to trim my toe nails. . . .
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Post by sunbow on Nov 11, 2012 20:25:35 GMT -6
JCurio, please elaborate (to the extent that you feel comfortable, of course). I also sought abstinence, yet at some point (post encounter) found that such practice was for me a form of ego enhancement. It ceased to matter. I am now married.
Jo, "they are 'hatched' in some lab for other beings who perhaps can't travel" -- This resonates for me. There is a lot of evidence for the grays being manufactured - incubated beings. Raymond Fowler in The Watchers proposed this same idea. There appears to be another life form who run this experiment (humans on Earth). Not sure if the other beings can't travel (the grays may be created for the nature of space), or don't want to. Some threads of my intuition tell me the grays are also not privy to the whole story and are also caught in the webs of the experiment.
I cannot say the grays were the ones who caught us. There seems to be many different players in this game: only to us it is more than a game. For me it seems to be more critical than my personal life and death.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 9:13:29 GMT -6
I will just be open and honest here. My 1st wife was (basically) my 1st love. Being lonely I dated a few times within the few years after we eventually ( and finally) divorced and then after searching for the 'right one' met my 2nd ex. We were together for several years and then we eventually parted ways .
I then needed a break so I took an 8 year one . I dated a couple times throughout that duration but I knew if I took any relationship past the holding hands stage that it would materialize into something more and I wasn't ready. I needed to find that 'right one'.
Then one day when I least suspected and no longer was looking I met Kelly again after I hadn't seen her for over 30 years. We went to 4th grade together and I recognized her and knew her name. She had just come back from Florida and didn't know how I knew it which blew her away. We were talking and I told her I remembered her from back then. After hit and miss for about a year we knew we both wanted to be together and finally ended up inseparable since. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 10:42:36 GMT -6
Relationships might be an issue with abductee's also..I hadn't thought of that one. I do know that the encounter my friend and I had..left me with some sexual problems that I really wasn't aware of until much later. I think it's still boiling down to some psychic/emotional connection. Not to mention that we all seem to have above normal intelligence..and we all seem to have very determined, inquisitive natures with very open minds. I know this..if I were at a party with everyone here..I wouldn't have any trouble making conversation or feeling at ease and that is NOT the case normally. I am very bad..almost claustrophobic around crowds..they project so much emotional clutter..especially around the holidays..people feel frantic and pushed like no other time. I stay away from stores as much as I can
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 11:08:49 GMT -6
I'm a lot like you Jo in a lot of ways...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 11:35:52 GMT -6
I'm a lot like you Jo in a lot of ways... Same here. Large crowds,,,oh no. Jo also mentioned loud t.v's awhile back somewhere,,, that gets to me too.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 12, 2012 12:16:15 GMT -6
Me also, more than a half dozen people is too large of a crowd to relate to. Big parties will find me is a quiet corner with two or three people or going home very early. My wife is also like this. We are happy just being at home together.
Relationships seem like an issue with abductees. I relate to all that Cliff has said and am very similar in that sexuality is a serious thing and I have spent many years avoiding relationships that I did not feel would be right.
In a subjective way I am very open minded, but in how I guide my own life, I'm very straight. Somehow this translated to being nearly crazy throughout my teenage years. Very strong emotions.
I started a thread in Member's Only, if others want to continue to explore this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 19:41:11 GMT -6
We do have a bit of a profile now..I just wonder if we weren't plants from the beginning they've just kept tabs on. I was going to write a book a long time past..using the earth as an ark. I sort of dreamed it. That races were put here to save them from planets that were in trouble or races about to be exterminated by others. Accounting for all the types of peoples here. Maybe..it wasn't so far fetched. Maybe visitors here..are checking on races they seeded here. And maybe some just had some quirks others didn't. By any chance has anyone else thought in these lines?
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Post by sunbow on Nov 12, 2012 20:00:04 GMT -6
Jo, those are very realistic and possible scenarios. They could easily hide huge amounts of genetic code in our DNA. We would not have to even look like them and we could preserve their treasured genetic sequences.
I've a sense that the 'Human' form is extremely powerful, evolved somewhere else, and has been re-seeded here. So how long can we imagine an experiment going on for? 4.25 billion years when the moon bounced off the Earth and became a satellite, setting things just right? A mere 65 million years when the reptiles (of vast and yet not completely known diversity) were exterminated by a 'meteorite' strike? Or were hominids evolving naturally a few million years ago and then they seemed a promising basis and the tinkering began?
I not only believe the Watchers have been with us throughout our history, short as that is, but that the Earth - Human experiment began somewhere else and this is the continuation: striving to reach some omega point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 22:33:25 GMT -6
Well, I think the story is much more diverse than we might think and quite possibly history has been 'helped' along the way with carefully placed 'road maps' and events. I keep seeing a 'doorway' opening that has been guarded..there seems to all of the sudden be a lot of information pinging around.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 13, 2012 17:48:23 GMT -6
I most certainly hope a doorway is opened wide. The human race needs a bigger view. A luttle shock of multi-dimensional reality could do our society good.
Any sense of what's on the other side of that door?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 19:57:58 GMT -6
a passage to elsewhere...all I'm getting.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 13, 2012 20:06:48 GMT -6
Part of me also feels like a viel to a parallel dimension is getting thinner and will pop. I am not sure what that means. Perhaps some time of contact with ETs. I don't think disclosure, since the government perhaps has proof of a lot of stiff, but from the way they behave, they have no answers. Perhaps 'the dead will be seen walking among the living'. Perhaps some psychic or telepathic block will be lifted. Perhaps a whole new realm which we are unaware of.
I think many people are ready for something to break through, a game changer in our paradigm of life. Some new understanding to bring purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 19:48:20 GMT -6
Perhaps 'the dead will be seen walking among the living'. I'm wondering if we are being prepped for this. Sensitivities numbed; things like that. It would be quite a bit different than an alien disclosure. IMO.
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Post by sunbow on Nov 14, 2012 21:12:31 GMT -6
There is a huge movement of 'mediumistic' style churches happing. Lots of book about reincarnation, etc. I used the phrasing of when it was reported to have happened before. Whitley and Annie Srieber talk about receiving many Communion Letters where the 'Visitors' accompanied the departed to bring a message. It is likely that an advanced race would know more about the realm of the dead. It is curious that Egyptians, Tibetans Balinese. and others had/have complex rituals for moving the soul along so that it does not hang out on this plane.
How mush would our society change if the knowledge that the essence of a person as a sentient perceiver remains intact after the body-mind vessel dies?
Related question: are some of the Watchers in a functional relationship with the dimension of the dead as part of their ordinary reality and does that explain some of their behavior an actions?
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