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Post by lois on Mar 18, 2012 21:25:51 GMT -6
I have seen in recent years a couple of alien drawings which resembles this freaky thing.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 18, 2012 21:29:58 GMT -6
It does look kind of freaky with that white face and big black eyes.
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Post by lois on Mar 18, 2012 21:31:58 GMT -6
Now this tiny red screech owl I thinks is so cute. Nothing like the ugly owl above.
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Post by lois on Mar 18, 2012 21:42:39 GMT -6
I find my self talking about things I would probably not mention to anyone today. Memories seem to pop in my head constantly since I first joined Mufon forum. Strange ..
Sky . I know I have never mention about the owl to Louise ever. And she knows all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 22:46:42 GMT -6
It doesn't bother me. We have a lot of owls up here and they have never bothered me Lois... ~shrug~
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2012 16:48:05 GMT -6
Originally, I just couldn't wrap my mind around skywalkers' event. I very much appreciate the bluntness of this question, and sky's answer. Lois, did you know the very next day that your brain had been damaged? You may have answered this before. I feel like for sure you recalled the event the very next day, and you may have been "sick", but sometimes it takes a few days to realize that we aren't getting better? I think this "model" or picture is also extremely realistic. Thats why people like Tom are so particular about describing and having the artist depict exactly what he saw. Remember, we are now hearing that a lot of movies, tv shows, etc. aren't just what Steven King dredges up! I can't recall seeing anything this pretty. I saw this shape and light positioning however, at also approx. height, in broad daylight as I went back to my school of an early evening. I felt like it was "military issue" and they had no business hanging out so close. It was like something told me to look up, I did, and then almost like I pretended I didn't see it seemed so important. I'm still waiting for more pics on teors recent site/post of manmade stuff. I don't blame you for having doubts about my experiences, Jc. If I hadn't of been there I wouldn't have believed it either. I still didn't want to even after that but my friend also had the same experience so it couldn't have been sleep paralysis or a hallucination or dream or whatever. There is definitely something going on. Whatever these crazy things are they aren't just swamp gas and weather balloons.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 18:41:26 GMT -6
Originally, I just couldn't wrap my mind around skywalkers' event. I very much appreciate the bluntness of this question, and sky's answer. Lois, did you know the very next day that your brain had been damaged? You may have answered this before. I feel like for sure you recalled the event the very next day, and you may have been "sick", but sometimes it takes a few days to realize that we aren't getting better? I think this "model" or picture is also extremely realistic. Thats why people like Tom are so particular about describing and having the artist depict exactly what he saw. Remember, we are now hearing that a lot of movies, tv shows, etc. aren't just what Steven King dredges up! I can't recall seeing anything this pretty. I saw this shape and light positioning however, at also approx. height, in broad daylight as I went back to my school of an early evening. I felt like it was "military issue" and they had no business hanging out so close. It was like something told me to look up, I did, and then almost like I pretended I didn't see it seemed so important. I'm still waiting for more pics on teors recent site/post of manmade stuff. I don't blame you for having doubts about my experiences, Jc. If I hadn't of been there I wouldn't have believed it either. I still didn't want to even after that but my friend also had the same experience so it couldn't have been sleep paralysis or a hallucination or dream or whatever. There is definitely something going on. Whatever these crazy things are they aren't just swamp gas and weather balloons. ~nods~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 20:27:01 GMT -6
The ones that zapped us with the beam of light? Not a chance. There is no way people could have done that...not any people from this planet anyway. It is hard to believe that things like that are coming down here and grabbing people, but it's true. My brain still doesn't want to believe it...but it is still true. Would you say it was man made? (lois said in post previously) _________________________________________________________ Let me clarify: I totally believe what happened to you, skywalker, and your best friend. I never, ever doubted your experience for one second. In fact, you (skywalker) and I discussed this before; that I thought it could possibly be our government doing tests (remember?). I questioned WHO caused this event. ONLY. You told me then that you thought it was "alien" and I understood that. For LOIS to ask this question, "was it man-made?": in other words, SHE had to ask you also. ugh. Isn't that one reason why we're here? To possibly have someone else also agree with what we are thinking, or be able to convince us that we need to re-open that can? (better start using good ol' tupperware lids, but NOT for this event). I'm sure sorry for confusing the issue. . . (modified because having problems making letters bold. Sigh)
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Post by lois on Mar 19, 2012 22:15:12 GMT -6
jc.. At mufon there were many debunkers who claimed I had false memories of my event. I seem to get into a lot conversations I told myself I would never do. They would say you did not write any of it down. So what makes you think it is not been told by you so many times to people all your life. Each time a few things will be added or taken away from the way you told it.
I did not care who believe me when it came to these few members.
Then one guy came into the conversation. It was a simple quote he mad.
"Shamira I believe you". It was our Charles here you had finally decided to come back and join his old friends again.
I thanked him on facebook about a year ago for about the tenth time. He remembered it, but until that post, I did not know Charles at all.
In forty years my friends and family never said once they believed me. It was like talking to a wall over and over with the same words again and again. No, not my family or friends ever told me this ever in 38 years. Louise did , as we were abducted together back in 1961. She is still my friend and has finally joined this forum, which I did not think she would ever do.
I need smileys and I did not hit reply. Sorry.
So when I had sky post this photo , it was for those debunkers who are not even here to see it. I know what I seen, no mistake, I was not doubting myself . I just ask sky if he were me and this craft came over him beam and all and missing the whole we hours of the morning, "Would you say this is from this world"..
We don't have too many debunkers here. But I guess you need to look at both sides of any ufo event.
I know who believes me and who doubts. It is not important. I was sort of reliving the past making that statement above. Right Charles? smiling face.
Lois alias shamira.
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Post by lois on Mar 19, 2012 22:30:22 GMT -6
Sky, I thought you cropped it so much it went off my screen, unbelievable ;D ;D I keep my screen blown up some so I can read, I about died when I seen this yesterday. ;D Just now I realized why it was like this. ;D silly me I took my screen down to normal and it is fine now ;D On enlarge screen there has been no pic this huge here on the forum or anywhere. Glad I finally figured it out. But is is still sort of huge ,, scare anyone. I almost ducked ;D ;D
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2012 22:38:54 GMT -6
Shami you still crack me up sometimes. ;D
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Post by skywalker on Mar 19, 2012 22:39:20 GMT -6
The ones that zapped us with the beam of light? Not a chance. There is no way people could have done that...not any people from this planet anyway. It is hard to believe that things like that are coming down here and grabbing people, but it's true. My brain still doesn't want to believe it...but it is still true. Would you say it was man made? (lois said in post previously) _________________________________________________________ Let me clarify: I totally believe what happened to you, skywalker, and your best friend. I never, ever doubted your experience for one second. In fact, you (skywalker) and I discussed this before; that I thought it could possibly be our government doing tests (remember?). I questioned WHO caused this event. ONLY. You told me then that you thought it was "alien" and I understood that. For LOIS to ask this question, "was it man-made?": in other words, SHE had to ask you also. ugh. Isn't that one reason why we're here? To possibly have someone else also agree with what we are thinking, or be able to convince us that we need to re-open that can? (better start using good ol' tupperware lids, but NOT for this event). I'm sure sorry for confusing the issue. . . (modified because having problems making letters bold. Sigh) You didn't cause any confusion, Jc. To be honest with you, I still question what happened that night. I have been questioning it ever since it happened. I've also considered the possibility that it might even have been the military since I lived just a few miles from an Air Force base (that since has closed down). I just honestly can't see humans having that level of technology. To be able to do the things that these whatever they ares are doing we would have to be way, way, waaaaaaay more technologically advanced than we are even now...and these abductions started back in the 1960s at least, if not earlier. How can they pick a person up with a beam of light? And why would they do it when they could just walk in the room and grab them? The craft that Shami saw was even sucking up corn out of a corn field. As absurd as it seems, in my opinion aliens are still the most realistic explanation. I can't think of anything else that even begins to explain what is going on. Having said that, I do think that there are a lot of weird military craft flying around that we don't know about. There are supposedly some stealth blimps and lighter than air craft sneaking around the skies, some of which are even reported to be triangle shaped. The military supposedly uses them for spying and surveillance. This could easily be an explanation for some of the "UFOs" people have been reporting but they are not the ones zapping people with beams of light. The skeptic in me still has trouble accepting that sometimes...but it is still true.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2012 22:46:35 GMT -6
Sky, I thought you cropped it so much it went off my screen, unbelievable ;D ;D I keep my screen blown up some so I can read, I about died when I seen this yesterday. ;D Just now I realized why it was like this. ;D silly me I took my screen down to normal and it is fine now ;D On enlarge screen there has been no pic this huge here on the forum or anywhere. Glad I finally figured it out. But is is still sort of huge ,, scare anyone. I almost ducked ;D ;D hehehehe... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 7:24:26 GMT -6
jc.. At mufon there were many debunkers who claimed I had false memories of my event. I seem to get into a lot conversations I told myself I would never do. They would say you did not write any of it down. So what makes you think it is not been told by you so many times to people all your life. Each time a few things will be added or taken away from the way you told it. I did not care who believe me when it came to these few members. Then one guy came into the conversation. It was a simple quote he mad. "Shamira I believe you". It was our Charles here you had finally decided to come back and join his old friends again. I thanked him on facebook about a year ago for about the tenth time. He remembered it, but until that post, I did not know Charles at all. In forty years my friends and family never said once they believed me. It was like talking to a wall over and over with the same words again and again. No, not my family or friends ever told me this ever in 38 years. Louise did , as we were abducted together back in 1961. She is still my friend and has finally joined this forum, which I did not think she would ever do. I need smileys and I did not hit reply. Sorry. So when I had sky post this photo , it was for those debunkers who are not even here to see it. I know what I seen, no mistake, I was not doubting myself . I just ask sky if he were me and this craft came over him beam and all and missing the whole we hours of the morning, "Would you say this is from this world".. We don't have too many debunkers here. But I guess you need to look at both sides of any ufo event. I know who believes me and who doubts. It is not important. I was sort of reliving the past making that statement above. Right Charles? smiling face. Lois alias shamira. Thank You, Lois. I believe and understand all that you are saying here, and I hope you don't mind me "repeating" it this way. I am especially emotional about the parts of unbelief by the people around us. The family thing hurts the most. Debunkers are not so personal. Our families (you would think) should notice that something, even if they can't figure it out, has happened. Thank You, also, Skywalker. I don't know if what I have to say next is worth saying. If anything, it shows that I am still open to "learning" about this phenomenon. It goes with Lois seeing the corn getting sucked up (which I believe really happened) and other instances of humans observing other "beings" taking things like water and soil samples. I have never read "Fire in the Sky" by Travis. I saw parts of the movie, and it disturbed me so bad that I could not continue to watch it. Later, either here, or somewhere I was pointed to from here, I read that Travis stated his experience ON THE SHIP (the part I saw) was not so scary as depicted in the movie. The part I saw in the movie (on TV) was the part where supposedly Travis woke up alone in a room with shelves-like, with "goo" in the shelves; more like a catacombs or a massive tomb setting. My memory on that may be over dramatized . Now, recently on Teor, I read that Travis thinks that possibly they (the beings) went ahead and took him because the beam that touched him injured him so bad. It also accounts for some healing time. People can say all they want that his memory is changed (for whatever reason). Part of getting older, having more experience with all kinds of things, is a change in perspective. I am considering reading his book with this "new" perspective in my mind; I had no desire to read it before. The book should still be very "raw" and I'm so glad he wrote it then (and not now). *a lot could also be said at this point, about the value of Whitley S. "revisiting" his experiences . * I'm not challenging anyone HERE to revisit their experiences with new perspective. Please. I'm voicing my perspective only. About one type of "being" only. The type of being that used to be involved in organic collection (non-animated material. No humans, no cows, no cats, etc.). For whatever reason, (Economy ? Ha! Ha!) different "aliens" may be now appearing together. That's why I say USED TO. Ok? And that's a huge "may be". Anyhow, sigh, In the "alien" order of things, I can see accidents happening. They are accidentally seen by a human, or they accidentally pick up the wrong thing. I'm sure it's happened. And, like us, they are faced with the dilemma on "Do we correct?" our mistake. And when is the "mistake" discovered. ?? Ok, in Skywalkers case, was there something in his ceiling that they wanted, perhaps? On his roof? I think not. So, why did he and his roommate wake to possibly being "sucked upwards" into a noisy, bright-light emitting craft? Was it a "miracle" they woke at all? Is it a "miracle" or evidence of skys' (and roommates) spirit (or soul if you will) that they even remembered bits of this experience happening? Now, sky knows he was "changed" afterwards, regardless of emotional upheaval. What if he had the "changes" and emotions when he woke up normally one morning, and never recalled anything but going to bed.? What if, what if. I knew I wouldn't have time to fully represent my thoughts on this, this morning. I have to go. . . . I'm "feeding" my mind off of "certain human experts" that have gone on the record about "alien" mistakes. I'm not saying these "human experts" are correct. I don't believe in perfection, by any standards, of any technique, or technology. But there is a certain ratio of correctness (not perfection ) that can be expected to repeat. Obviously, we live by this principle, on all kinds of things. . . sorry! Gotta run
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Post by lois on Mar 20, 2012 13:01:14 GMT -6
JC.. When I first told about the aliens sucking up my neighbors corn on the Mufon forum an investigator named Dave told me he once investigated a case in his area and two whole entire rolls of corn were plucked out out the ground .. roots and all. I was very happy to hear this, as I felt no one would listen to such nonsense. His name was Truthseeker I believe.
Ron , do you know where Dave is today? Anyone here know?
I live in the main corn belt up here in Illinois, and a row of corn, is a huge amount of corn. What I witness was a small garden of corn in a home yard. The roots were not being taken. It seem to dissect it down into small pieces as the outer green leaf would be going up by itself in the beam, then some corn silk pieces . I never notices it kernels were separated. Something about the beam you could see a flea in it ..if one was there and I was in front of my home clear across the street. A narrow street with homes almost sitting on the sidewalks.
Freddie the Australian Pilot whom vanished shortly after my encounter, speaking on his radio in the the plane, he said the cockpit was all green and he could see hairs in it floating around. This case got my attention very fast. I was searching constantly right after my encounter, their was very few cases told to the media. There was no computers either.
Freddie and Travis both helped as I though I was crazy there for a few years after. Then Travis's story broke, all I could think of was.. This poor young guy , they had him for five days. I thanked God they put me back right there reading at the magazine rack. His story covered the whole front page of the inquirer.
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Post by lois on Mar 20, 2012 13:11:38 GMT -6
My TV is on behind me and CNN is saying a quake hit Mexico just now. Gotta go listen to it. I bet it was on the coast line some where.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2012 21:56:15 GMT -6
My TV is on behind me and CNN is saying a quake hit Mexico just now. Gotta go listen to it. I bet it was on the coast line some where. Yea, I heard that on the radio earlier today. The first thing I thought of was, "Lois's prediction came true again..."
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Post by lois on Mar 20, 2012 22:10:00 GMT -6
Lorelei, I don't think this is my dream, but maybe a for runner. What I seen sent a title waved over land and some airport near the ocean's edge.. Planes were swimming around in the water. and one leaving runway was swallow up completely. It was a Western coast, but that could be anywhere. It seems there was no fatalities thank the lord.
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Post by lois on Mar 20, 2012 22:28:58 GMT -6
I have this on tape and wanted to share. These beings are one that give me a sick feeling.
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Post by lois on Mar 20, 2012 22:31:27 GMT -6
I use to get tired of watching this debunker. He is one, no matter what his title is.
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Post by Steve on Mar 21, 2012 7:07:06 GMT -6
I use to get tired of watching this debunker. He is one, no matter what his title is. The debunker shown does not seem to be a good listener is he? "Don't interrupt my proclamations with the facts."(essentially). This same person then comments those investigating these abduction claims have their own agenda. The debunker in the interview implies he does not have an agenda as well? GMAB! In the cut back and forth - Macks assertions still shine through. Thanks Lois. I miss Robert Stack. Miss 'Unsolved Mystery's' production values too. 'Reality shows' in reality = cheap! I can just see 'Scotty' saying....."the stiffer the debunkers neck - the easier it snaps laddie". ;D Steve
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Post by lois on Mar 21, 2012 11:55:56 GMT -6
I use to get tired of watching this debunker. He is one, no matter what his title is. The debunker shown does not seem to be a good listener is he? "Don't interrupt my proclamations with the facts."(essentially). This same person then comments those investigating these abduction claims have their own agenda. The debunker in the interview implies he does not have an agenda as well? GMAB! In the cut back and forth - Macks assertions still shine through. Thanks Lois. I miss Robert Stack. Miss 'Unsolved Mystery's' production values too. 'Reality shows' in reality = cheap! I can just see 'Scotty' saying....."the stiffer the debunkers neck - the easier it snaps laddie". ;D Steve I miss Robert too. The first time I recall seeing him, was at the theater, in a movie called .. Written On The Wind. Rock Hudson Dorthy Malone, and Robert. He was playing the part of an alcoholic brother of Dorthy. Never forgot that film He had come along ways, since then. He always appear as sunny California, and he loved his golf .. He struck me as a great human being his entire life.
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Post by lois on Mar 21, 2012 12:10:26 GMT -6
The trailer for that movie.
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Post by lois on Mar 21, 2012 12:50:38 GMT -6
I guess maybe I had seen Robert on TV in his series of Elliot Ness. This was in color so it may of been new for me to see him with this appearance ..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2012 23:04:38 GMT -6
Thanks for the video...
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Post by lois on Mar 22, 2012 0:27:23 GMT -6
I don't know what is going on in my home at night but something strange very strange. Four nights ago, I woke up at 6:30 am, and I was not laying at the head of the bed but the foot on top of my comforter with no pillow. Now I have never done this is my life. It was very cold and I was laying under a window in this position. If my legs get cold one second I'm awake getting long stocks on, as my tendinitis in my legs pull completely beyond it self. both my ankles bend in like a child with a club foot..If I don't get the sole of my foot on the floor right away. I have to get on the floor and try and bend my ankles back in place.. I went to therapy last winter and they did not seem to help me .. so I quit going.. I would never get out of bed the past few years without having socks on I sleep in, plus I would have my slippers there to step into.. In other ward if I had got up I would of remember it.. Next morning which was this past saturday, I got up and could not find the kleenex box beside me..I put it there so I can reach it in the night. It was there as I put it there and use a kleenex about 12:30 am. I looked all day.. and finally found it when I drew the curtains. It was behind the curtains under a pillow. like someone had hidden it from me. this window is not anywhere near the bed.. This morning, I get up and my husband ask where is the phone. I said on the base in the living room. He was in the living room looking for it.. You are not going to believe it, it was on the floor of the shower stall when my husband climb in.. He is always saying, I can't find anything in this house. But this phone he thought very strange. I hate to see what tomorrow brings.. Guess there is always a first time for everything.. I told him he is the one getting out bed in his sleep. ;D ;D ;D This sort of thing is not normal I know. Sorry but I missed friday or thursday last. My transistor radio, I only keep for a tornado warning in the summer months is always on the refrigerator. It was in the laundry basket in the wash room bright and early again. I never write strange things down, but I plan on doing it now with these odd occurrences. Lois Im reposting this for Sansseed. It all finally stopped. It was driving me crazy for awhile.
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Post by lois on Mar 22, 2012 0:28:33 GMT -6
The above I posted in Jan. 2010.
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Post by lois on Mar 22, 2012 20:07:31 GMT -6
My daughter called me from the Cape in Mo. a few minutes ago and said she was out in her back parking lot getting something from her car about 9 pm last night .This orange sphere came over her. It lingered for awhile and then picked up speed, then it was gone in a flash like instance. I ask her if it appeared to be like a meteorite. She said No, it acted nothing like one. It made no sound. She said sometimes it appeared to be like fire. She is the daughter who has dreams about ufo just in the past few years for no reason. . One dream a ufo came down in front of her on a highway, but it was falling out of the sky and went into the asphalt standing up on end. She had to go around it by going into a field. She said she was scared it would blow up on her as she drove by it. She never looked back before she woke up.
My kids never talk about ufos much especially my daughters. But this younger one has been experiencing some things just the past few years. Got me wondering. I sure hope it comes to a stop soon.
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Post by lois on Mar 22, 2012 20:11:21 GMT -6
I dropped my camera on the kitchen floor a few days ago, now I have a spot at the top center on all my photos and films. Great. I don't think the lens is smudged. My lens closes everytime I take a photo.
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Post by sansseed on Mar 25, 2012 7:12:54 GMT -6
I don't know what is going on in my home at night but something strange very strange. Four nights ago, I woke up at 6:30 am, and I was not laying at the head of the bed but the foot on top of my comforter with no pillow. Now I have never done this is my life. It was very cold and I was laying under a window in this position. If my legs get cold one second I'm awake getting long stocks on, as my tendinitis in my legs pull completely beyond it self. both my ankles bend in like a child with a club foot..If I don't get the sole of my foot on the floor right away. I have to get on the floor and try and bend my ankles back in place.. I went to therapy last winter and they did not seem to help me .. so I quit going.. I would never get out of bed the past few years without having socks on I sleep in, plus I would have my slippers there to step into.. In other ward if I had got up I would of remember it.. Next morning which was this past saturday, I got up and could not find the kleenex box beside me..I put it there so I can reach it in the night. It was there as I put it there and use a kleenex about 12:30 am. I looked all day.. and finally found it when I drew the curtains. It was behind the curtains under a pillow. like someone had hidden it from me. this window is not anywhere near the bed.. This morning, I get up and my husband ask where is the phone. I said on the base in the living room. He was in the living room looking for it.. You are not going to believe it, it was on the floor of the shower stall when my husband climb in.. He is always saying, I can't find anything in this house. But this phone he thought very strange. I hate to see what tomorrow brings.. Guess there is always a first time for everything.. I told him he is the one getting out bed in his sleep. ;D ;D ;D This sort of thing is not normal I know. Sorry but I missed friday or thursday last. My transistor radio, I only keep for a tornado warning in the summer months is always on the refrigerator. It was in the laundry basket in the wash room bright and early again. I never write strange things down, but I plan on doing it now with these odd occurrences. Lois Im reposting this for Sansseed. It all finally stopped. It was driving me crazy for awhile. Thanks, Lois! Very interesting. This is how I've been feeling lately.
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