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Post by lois on Feb 6, 2011 12:55:08 GMT -6
thanks sky.. Auntym found it last night under ufo sounds.. I was explaining what the ufo sound like on this thread and got carried away and told the whole encounter. I would of never went there for it...
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Post by lois on Feb 6, 2011 12:59:24 GMT -6
I have written all this down on paper ;D
I should of... ;D to begin with.. I know I could never find the astronuats ufo encounter on Mufon..
I never did find it either.. Now what can I post and change this subject. ;D
Thanks all of you.
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Post by lois on Feb 6, 2011 22:20:58 GMT -6
When My children was about junior hight school age, we had a ouja board, they would get it out at night. Once my daughter came running into the kitchen .. saying Mom we have someone talking to us on that board for sure, she says her name is Lavinia .. I turned white as snow and my legs were weak. My great grandmothers name was Lavinia.. I know those kids of mine had never heard of her. I took that board out to the trash in the night and buried it under a lot of trash.. It really gave me the creeps. They were all mad me. hey I got goose bumps right now and that was about 23 years ago.. Lois Wow. I played with a ouija board while in high school with friends sometimes too. One night, we were playing it (a home-made oiuja board out of cardboard) and it spelled out, "LOOK OUT THE WINDOW" and right after the W was shown, the curtains fell off of the window. All of us fifteen year old girls screamed and ran and huddled in the corner, holding each other... lol. That was scary... Have you ever seen the pointer go so fast you cannot make out what it is spelling? we keep one person who did not play to write down all the letters. This time that person told us, yes it stopped on letters but went to fast he could not keep up. I felt like the pointer was pulling my hands off with it.. My nephew told me he had that same feeling. One other my son was on it with us.. The pointer went off the table and the board went up at a angle and wacked my son across the forehead before going onto the floor. You never seen four people get out of their chairs so fast.. It was strange, I don't think any of us was doing it.. The speller among us said, I got some of it.. the words were 'You are not to go, you are not to go, you are not to go Johnny." Johnny is my nephew who was playing with us.. He had just stated I think i better get home it is late, we talked him into one more time.. That got to me but yet we keep it for while longer. Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 6, 2011 23:13:49 GMT -6
Down around the corner to the west at the far end of this block where this building ended, was a street that went to the right only and took you out of the area. straight ahead was tracks about 50 ft from my brother and I..
As we stood their we were watching for a little car the railroad men would have to pump to move the wheels on the tracks. anyone know what these contraptions were called. It was nothing but a few flat boards put together to make a platform.. the Iron rails attached in the middle of the platform which two railroad men would pump like a teeter tauter does. up and down..
Sometimes they would stop and talk to us..
We were facing the tracks which run North and South like our street did one block East..After you would walk across these track was a small slope you walked down and back up into the cemetery.. Our end of it was high ground and the trees were tall. south of us was a large coalyard.. The man in the small house at the dead end of our street ran the coalyard. We got coal from then all through the 40s. His name was Roberts.....
As we looked north and then south and back north again, I notice this giant ball of fire above the trees in the cemetery a ways back into the cemetery. coming at us and it keep on coming, I said the sun if falling. Then as it came right out towards and stopped over the tracks about 50 ft in front us my brother and I ducked down with bent knees. I also believe we put our hands over our ears. but I don't remember any sound at all.
It sat there for a about a whole minute. Joey said lets get out of here and right then it went sideways to the was it had been coming at us. I shot south over the tracks.. gone in a second.
We never gave it a thought to tell our Mother it had stopped. We told her the sun was falling and went down the tracks fast.. She said you two must of seen a meteorite. Well then we believed her but today I know better. It was about 60 ft in altitude. To my eyes it was the same size as the sun when looking at it..it was yellow with a little orange in it.. there was some kind of fire spitting out from the edges..
Strange we did not hear a thing. I believe it scared us so bad we never realized it had any noise..
I have seen this same firelike ball a few more times in my adult life. One was the night the big ufo came over me in 72. This is the was it appeared as it came from afar.. when I first seen it.. then it just winked off. I thought that is strange, if a meteorite it would of come down in the trees, not just blink out like that, well it was only ten seconds the beam hit the ground from the craft, which was in the same direction as the fireball would of been..
My brother while in high school said his friend and him see one over the cemetery again. They could not tell where it went. but it was moving horizontally not coming down at a angle like most meteorites.
I will never know what we saw, but I'm convinced the one in 72 was the power system coming from the ufo which come over my intersection and stopped..
Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 6, 2011 23:36:12 GMT -6
One of my older brothers and his wife live to the left of the dead end T , which would be east of the building and cemetery.. We go down my parents street to go there a lot.. And about a year and a half ago. The tiny house was gone.. Our home burnt to the ground right after my parents moved out in 78. I have made post about the ghost there.
My parents lived there for 50 years. we would laugh and say the ghost did not like the new owners. No one was hurt in this fire, and they still don't know what started it.. The new owner only lived in it one week.
There is a building where the coal yard sat, and a large garage sits where the field was.. The field is where I had my first missing time.. Don't recall if I have posted it on this forum.. But I did Mufon and ufomainia...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 3:55:33 GMT -6
Wow. I played with a ouija board while in high school with friends sometimes too. One night, we were playing it (a home-made oiuja board out of cardboard) and it spelled out, "LOOK OUT THE WINDOW" and right after the W was shown, the curtains fell off of the window. All of us fifteen year old girls screamed and ran and huddled in the corner, holding each other... lol. That was scary... Have you ever seen the pointer go so fast you cannot make out what it is spelling? we keep one person who did not play to write down all the letters. This time that person told us, yes it stopped on letters but went to fast he could not keep up. I felt like the pointer was pulling my hands off with it.. My nephew told me he had that same feeling. One other my son was on it with us.. The pointer went off the table and the board went up at a angle and wacked my son across the forehead before going onto the floor. You never seen four people get out of their chairs so fast.. It was strange, I don't think any of us was doing it.. The speller among us said, I got some of it.. the words were 'You are not to go, you are not to go, you are not to go Johnny." Johnny is my nephew who was playing with us.. He had just stated I think i better get home it is late, we talked him into one more time.. That got to me but yet we keep it for while longer. Lois Wow Lois. That's creepy... I've had the pointer go fast, but not as fast as you described. That's really creepy!
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Post by paulette on Feb 7, 2011 12:14:10 GMT -6
Ah Ouija boards....For people wanting to try to communicate with spirits and doing so with some understanding that it might complicate their lives - it is a tool. HOWEVER...for children who are relatively unguarded psychically and cannot make informed decisions about being touch with an entity that is distressed enough to hang around and try to talk to a kid instead of going to explore the universe (or, if you are Buddhist, being reborn) - its a bad idea. ESPECIALLY since ouija board stuff has been linked in movies with pulling in demons etc. Not that it does particularly but one's negative expectations can bear strange fruit.
If you love someone and lose them suddenly, then sitting down (with our without a ouija board) and attempting to see if anything "comes through" is an act between friends. Maybe your grand grandmother was charmed to meet her great great granddaughter. It's hard for me to imagine disembodied people sitting around waiting to be talked to. Surely there are better things to do! Mind you, I'm not sure that time is all that relevant once one doesn't have a body that keeps time.
Jane Roberts wrote a series of books, the first was Seth Speaks. In it she explained her version of how souls are organized and it made sense to me. According to her, The Oversoul shines into many lives - in many times. Think of a sun with rays coming down (like kids draw) and one ray is shining into a life 100 years ago, one into you, one into the future....and because the essence of these lives is all "me" but more than the individual me - I might be able to see into them on a clear day. Past, present or future.
There are many good and not so good movies and books about communicating with the dead. I liked Sixth Sense a lot. The spirit of the child needed someone to help him. (I'd like to believe that older spirits help younger ones). Maybe your great grandmother wanted to prove to you that communication is possible and she hoped you'd throw that "toy" in the trash! The problem with talking to dead people is that one's focus should be here and now. What they know now cannot be revealed in a way we can comprehend.
Here is a story about my own ongoing conversation I had with a dear friend who I worked with and hung out with about 10 years ago - then she died suddenly of cancer and I think I understand where it was going before she did. She allowed me to be present the day she died (chose me in fact, which was a major honor and intimacy).
Later I talked to her occasionally. I was lying on a beach and I had my two hands clenched around some fine sand which in spite of my best efforts was escaping. The metaphor wasn't lost on me. I was miserable in my life at that time.
I said abruptly _________ I need to talk to you! I'm sorry I keep calling you up but you always had good advice and I need some. (It was the usual not quite ready to leave the bad relationship thing). I felt her touch my brow. Bang. Physical contact! I didn't think they could do that! But it was totally loving and soothing. She "said" in my mind, "It's OK. It's not a problem for me to come. But you need to get on with things. You know what you need to do."
One of the things I needed to do (obviously) was continue my grieving and let her go. Oh God I didn't want to! But I got it and I cried and the tears literally ran down into that sand, the sands of hourglass of time that we all live on top of, until one day we don't anymore. When I stopped crying, she was gone. I have had moments of remembering and celebrating her but I never requested that she show up again. I had business to complete with her kids and I went and gathered her counselling files so that they were kept for 7 years appropriately. (Some of this she told me to do post dying).
The only time I had trouble with "stray" spirits that wanted to stay with me was when I worked in a hospital and had demented or dying alone patients. They were desperate and I'd wake up (in a dream) and discover that I tucked old Mrs. Whoever in bed with me (at home). (this was when I was a young nurse). I stopped doing this work!
Spirits have always talked to us. Most of us just can't or don't listen. For some though, we need to learn to shut the doors.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Feb 7, 2011 14:11:08 GMT -6
Thank you for posting that, Paulette. It was very well thought out and well written. I appreciate your willingness to share some of the more intimate moments of your personal life with us. Hopefully others will be able to learn from your experiences and use your knowledge and insight to help them deal with circumstances that may arise in their own lives. If it helps so much as a single person it is definitely worth sharing. As far as Ouija boards go I have never used one so I don't know anything about them. Do they really work for communicating with spirits or are the people doing it themselves? Could it be some subliminal psychological cue that causes the words to be spelled out? Or is that what the spirits are doing?
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Post by lois on Feb 7, 2011 21:28:35 GMT -6
Sky, I think it is a lttle of both.. We started putting blindfolds on our selves so we could not see the letters, this is why we had a speller.. writing the letters down. I do know many make it go to what they want..
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Post by lois on Feb 7, 2011 21:30:44 GMT -6
Paulette, thank you for sharing. We are here to listen as well as tell. If not this forum would have no meaning or purpose..
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Post by skywalker on Feb 8, 2011 23:49:30 GMT -6
Very true, Shami.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2011 2:18:30 GMT -6
Paulette... I don't think I could have been able to deal with what you dealt with with dying patients. I would not have been able to handle the emotional upset of having such a job... ~hugs~
We communicated with the ouija board just to play around. It was a game, but it scared us. We weren't looking for answers, we were simply looking for something different to do.
My sister and I did it for awhile in the basement at sleepover parties. We spoke to Mark Twain once... at least that's what the board told us. It was pretty interesting stuff.
I think the oiuja board is a conduit into the collective unconsciousness, but this is just my theory. I don't think the "spirit" who is being communicated with is actually physically present during ouija sessions, but is connected to all of us via the subconscious mind ALL the time. ~shrug~
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Post by lois on Feb 9, 2011 20:55:08 GMT -6
My first missing time, with no recollection of a ufo.. I was about 6 or 7 years old.. My Mother was going with her sister grocery shopping, they always stopped a market with fresh fruit and vegetables located near the grocery store .. one has to imagine how long this would take?
My younger brother was not in the house, so my Mother ask me to go get him outside.. My older brothers in their teens was left at home with me..
He was not in the yard, so I walked down to the field, the one I mention in above post.. It was no more than 300 ft from my front door. When I got there he was no where insight, there was tall grass this day. So I called for him as sometimes we would get down in it and look for snakes. We always took jars with us.. No I could not find him. Today I believe I must of been there for about ten minutes.
I started back to my house, as I approached it my Mother was on the porch. She started yelling at me. Where in the world have you been? I told her I did not find my brother in the field.. She wanted to know who's house I had been in.. I told her no ones, only to the field. She said your brothers went to the field and you were not there hours ago..
She did not make sense to me at all. Then she said my brother was in the house all the time and they had already went shopping. Boy that really confused me then..
I noticed my aunt's car parked at the curb, when I went into the kitchen I could see they went shopping all the food and vegetable baskets.. My Mother canned ever summer.
Even when I got older she ask me about it .. I told her what I did again.. she said did you go to sleep in the grass and your brothers would not of seen you.. I thought to myself and let bugs and any critters out there crawl on me..
When I had the missing time in 72, while encountering a ufo, I did not bring the subject up of the field.
One can see why I was so mad that night in 72, and walked to it unafraid. I was yelling at them as they could hear me I know.. All phenomena came back from my past in those few seconds while this beam was sucking up my neighbors corn.. That is why I went down the street to tell them what I thought. Did not think they would take me.. I have tried to recall any other missing times but have never come up with one more since I realized it was the beings flying these ufos..
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Post by paulette on Feb 9, 2011 21:02:20 GMT -6
Aha! Another story in which a child does not track time and would NEVER realize it being missing except for the fact that it interfered with an adult's schedule. Did you wake up covered in ants? Probably not...
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Post by lois on Feb 9, 2011 23:40:35 GMT -6
Paulette, This played on my mind for years, not so much How did they get to the store and back home so fast .. but my Mother thought I was telling her a lie.. I never lied to my Mother I dont think in my entire life.. Oh yes the sleepovers in my teens .. I was not where I was suppose to be someitmes.. lol I take that all back.. it just came to me as I was typing..What was she suppose to think? My brothers acturally look for me there. I blame it on those darn aliens. I hate them today..
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Post by lois on Feb 9, 2011 23:45:27 GMT -6
My four year old encounter took place above a house next to the field and another accured just down the block. while with my brother, none of it was thought of as ufos or aliens.. we had no knowlege of anything like this..
Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 9, 2011 23:48:23 GMT -6
There was no homes on this side street not for three blocks. one would have to see the location. Once Ron looked it up on Google earth. but it has changed since I was a child..
Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 10, 2011 0:12:02 GMT -6
I will post the encounter my girfriend and I had the summer after we graduated from high school.. same month and year as Betty and Barny.. we even heard the beeps..
I never knew when the Hills had their encounter till Steve pointed it out to me on a Mufon post.. I was so surprised as I have read the interrupted Journey twice and watched the movie.. When Steve made his post .. I went to my bookcase and got the book and read the opening. I was shocked.. I even called my girlfriend at midnight to tell her.. It was only ten her time in Vegas..
You see they did not come forward with it right a way. I knew it was early 60s. They were on the Art Linkletter show mid afternoon. My Mother in Law and I sat in her living room laughing at these crazy people .. It took the huge craft and beam before it sunk into my thick skull.. all those times and nothing came to mind.. which related me to them..
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 15:28:30 GMT -6
Paulette, This played on my mind for years, not so much How did they get to the store and back home so fast .. but my Mother thought I was telling her a lie.. I never lied to my Mother I dont think in my entire life.. Oh yes the sleepovers in my teens .. I was not where I was suppose to be someitmes.. lol I take that all back.. it just came to me as I was typing..What was she suppose to think? My brothers acturally look for me there. I blame it on those darn aliens. I hate them today.. Lois, you woke up in places you weren't supposed to be? Where did you wake up at during the sleepovers? I'm curious...
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Post by lois on Feb 11, 2011 22:28:27 GMT -6
Lorelei.. sorry to confuse you. I lied to my mother that day.. I went to the sleep over then half the night I went with this guy ;D ;D
Then came back to the sleepover early morning.. I was where I was suppose to be come morning ;D ;D
It just hit me when I was typing about the missing time. I felt bad as my Mohter thought I has lied. I never lied to her but his once ..it popped into my head at the last minute, I should of not corrected myself and let it go.. see I cannot lie even on this forum ;D ;D ;D
Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 11, 2011 23:23:39 GMT -6
Well Sky looked up a calender date for me.. the 19 was on a Tuesday. My girlfriend and I never went out late on a work night. Our experience could of been over the week-end before the Hills were abducted on the 19th.. it is a little similar.
We had graduated in the spring of 61, I went to Washington DC, for a month to visit my sister. she worked for the Student exchange. Brought students into the USA from other countries. Got them a place to stay and travel plans across the U S to where the college was they would be attending..
I met a lot of people coming here from all countries that summer. seen almost all the early American History places too. I was a history nut.. Even sat in Patrick Henry seat in the house of burgesses. She took my photo there,
I climbed upon Hiroshima statue and got against the men .. she took a picture..I mean it was a nice trip until my boyfriend calls and says come home I leave September 4th for the Navy..he did not tell me anything about joining before I left..
This is how I know the date with this experience. After he left My friend and I was out alone in her car. on a weekend in Sept. I keep all my boyfriends letters . One is dated great lakes sept 24. He says I'm not gone barely two weeks and you and your friend get into trouble. he is referring to the missing time that had happen to us.. It means we heard these beeps on the night of the 16th on saturday night. The hills come home the following Tuesday from Canada the 19th. Now if they had not heard the beeps I would not pay much attention to anything related..
Like I said last night It was Steve who brought this too my attention on the Mufon board. I have only realized this for a couple of years now..
Anyway .. we are leaving steak and shake a restaurant which also had a drive in .. You parked your car outside and the waiters came and took your orders.. Not on roller skates either like in the movies.. lol..
She did not want to drive through all the traffic. As we were a little tipsy. So we took this old dirt road out the back of this place up to a hard road, which stopped over the railroad yards. We were going to turn left and go over the bridge above the tracks below.. When we reach the stop sign, and man was it black up there.. .. lol We heard beeps like a microwave today. about two or three times, it was loud and clear as it was right behind our heads. I laughed and ask her do you have a kids toy back there on the floor while I was looking over the front seat, she turned and looked and said " heavens no lois" We did not see a thing anyway as it was too dark.. We both turned our head back to the front window. OMG.. out in front of us was taillights and headlights coming at us. She grabbed the wheel fast as we were doing about 30 or 40 miles an hour.. she keep screaming where are we, I told her pull over..
We did and we sat there forever it seems like.. She would not start that car again for anything .. she said my car is possessed. No of us was thing right . I looked around and knew we were out on the beltline to the east of town.. The railroad runs north and south on the west side of town..we were about 8 miles east of where we sat a second before. You talk about thinking our selves mad???
She finally started the car and took a main street straight back to the west side of town. We got to her apt. We felt too tired to talk about it. We went to bed.. I knew it had to be some kind of strange phenomena. what class type I had no idea. I also do not remember the next day. I do know we told no one.. no one .. never did till this day.. After she has a encounter with green beam in 66 five years before my encounter, I started thinking about it. She said oh it could not be.. She never wanted to believe ..it was just too crazy..
Lois .........PS that boyfriend has been my husband 49 years this spring.. that how I still have the letters.. ha ha .. bet you were wonderng about that right? lol lol
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Post by lois on Feb 12, 2011 0:02:36 GMT -6
It will be 50 years this Sept and I won't ever forget it..I have had all this time to rationalize on it.. One just has to except it but it won't help you to forget it.. What is the beeps all about? I know it had something to do with what happen. Now the Hills believed it was when the missing time started. We still had a second to turn around of memory before lost time.. It reminds me of the green beam. I was in the street and as I turned to look to see if the beam had moved before I ran into my house, some how in that turn was when I landed upon the grass in the beam . turning in both incidents. strang. I did not hear any beeps when our memory came back. We were screaming so loud in that car we would not of heard them anyway.. lol I will have to read The interruped journy again. It has been at least 15 years since I read it..last. It is worth a try.. Why did they finally show themselves to me and let me remember the craft and standing under it. to help me realize what everything was about.. ha wasn't that considerate of those little rats.. Lois
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Post by lois on Feb 12, 2011 0:12:28 GMT -6
I have keep my sanity, and so has my friend.. We even joke about it today.. ;D
sometime I will put her experiences on here. She knows I'm telling it all and does not care. She does not remember details today.
she says my mind is getting old why hasn't yours ;D ;D
Some of it with me is photographic memory I think. I just see it my head whenever I want to. that tells the story right then to me..
Another thing I never had bad dreams about any of it..
Every witness will say I dream of aliens and what they do to them.
I never do.. If I ever see one face to face, I will do so much cussing toward them they won't take me anymore ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2011 5:10:59 GMT -6
Lorelei.. sorry to confuse you. I lied to my mother that day.. I went to the sleep over then half the night I went with this guy ;D ;D Then came back to the sleepover early morning.. I was where I was suppose to be come morning ;D ;D It just hit me when I was typing about the missing time. I felt bad as my Mohter thought I has lied. I never lied to her but his once ..it popped into my head at the last minute, I should of not corrected myself and let it go.. see I cannot lie even on this forum ;D ;D ;D Lois LOL Lois... thanks for clearing that up. ;D My sister would go to her boyfriend's house too... she would ride the bus to school with me, then get in his car at school and spend the day at his house, then he would drive her back to school and she would get on the school bus and ride home with me... LOL. She married him too... I can't lie either. I'm a bad liar. Everyone can tell when I lie, so I decided years ago to tell the truth. Practice does not seem to help me any... lol... I do stretch the truth sometimes, but I am usually honest... I often admit to my lies when I get caught... LOL... Like the kid who came into the liquor store today... I asked him what his birthday was. He said, "Seven Seven Eighty-Seven..." then he quickly said "I mean eighty-five..." I raised an eyebrow at him and said, "Can I see your ID?" He pulled his ID out of his wallet and stared at the front of it. "Uh..." he said. I held out my hand and he gave it to me reluctantly. The birthday was August fifteenth 1982. I said, "Why did you say Eighty-seven?" He looked down at his shoes and said, "That's not my ID." He then slid his debit card through the machine... like I was going to approve the transaction... ~rolls eyes~ I said, "I need to see YOUR ID." "I don't have it," he stammered. ~rolls eyes~ You gotta give him credit. At least he tried, huh? LOL...
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Post by lois on Feb 12, 2011 22:32:15 GMT -6
I never could look at an Edsel automobile when they came out I was in 10 grade and refuse to look at them at a car lot across the street from the high school .. same feeling I got with the face of a praying mantis. I did not know why I felt this way www.paris.web66.com/toureiff/w95/edsel_591.jpgLois
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Post by lois on Feb 12, 2011 22:46:23 GMT -6
Steve put this case on mufon when I spoke of the eyes. He peg me right .. look at the eyes on the two aliens at the bottom of this link. how they resembe the vent on the Edsel above.. . Has anyone ever seen or dreamed of an alien like this.. what species is it?? I been wanting to know for years. way back to childhood. www.ufobc.ca/yukon/n-canol-abd/index.htm
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Post by lois on Feb 12, 2011 23:01:01 GMT -6
The alagash four aliens give me a shock also.. not only the eyes but the entire body.. it's hands were creepy. made me sick to look at them.. If an insetoid had me as a child, no wonder I had night mares of something chasing me.. It would always come from the sky what ever chased me..
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Post by skywalker on Feb 13, 2011 8:53:53 GMT -6
I have no idea what kind of aliens those are supposed to be. Maybe they flew here in the Edsil. Yuck! Those cars need to go back to whatever planet they came from.
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Post by lois on Feb 13, 2011 15:33:35 GMT -6
Well they did not last long..
Lorelei... your last post is very funny.. what we do in our youth, one would never do it today.. Young and carefree.. you get in reality more in old age, Ha! not me look at my post.. lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 15:55:12 GMT -6
LOL!
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