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Post by auntym on Nov 24, 2013 13:57:10 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Nov 24, 2013 15:31:04 GMT -6
What makes anybody think these were ghost hunters? It sounds more like they were a bunch of idiot juvenile delinquents out getting drunk and using drugs and vandalizing private property. Those aren't ghost hunters. Just because a bunch of drunken criminals trespass on private property that has a reputation for being haunted that does NOT mean they are "ghost hunters."
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Post by auntym on Nov 24, 2013 19:07:14 GMT -6
What makes anybody think these were ghost hunters? It sounds more like they were a bunch of idiot juvenile delinquents out getting drunk and using drugs and vandalizing private property. Those aren't ghost hunters. Just because a bunch of drunken criminals trespass on private property that has a reputation for being haunted that does NOT mean they are "ghost hunters." you misunderstood sky... they didn't say they were ghost hunters, they said they were ghost hunting... and when no ghosts showed up they burned the place down... this is so sad... i hope they go to prison for a long time...
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Post by skywalker on Nov 24, 2013 20:02:07 GMT -6
It still makes it sound like they were real ghost hunters. The article even mentioned that people are inspired to do things like that by watching ghost hunting shows on TV. It's like they are blaming ghost hunters for what happened when it was just a bunch of hoodlums out partying and committing crimes. When I was a teenager we used to sneak into some of the abandoned "haunted" houses that were scattered around town. Sometimes we pretended to be looking for ghosts...sometimes we really were...but I guarantee that if we had ever gotten caught nobody would have said we were ghost hunting. I think that story gives all ghost hunters a bad name. I hope the criminals go to prison and get haunted by the ghosts of that old house for the rest of their days.
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DEADnGONE
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Post by DEADnGONE on Nov 27, 2013 19:44:15 GMT -6
Based on the good explainations provided, "ghost hunters", define it as one will, I don't think destruction of property, belonging to a mortal or to "ghost", is quite how things are to work. At least not where I have investigated and who I was with. Regardless what they called themselves, a "skunk is a skunk, regardless if it painted itself white and walked on two legs.It still smells like a skunk. what was done is beyond any excuses, except perhaps "temporary insanity",but it would seem that the group was looking for something they probably wouldn't be able to cope with and if we, as children, don't get what we think is due, we get "ill" and destroy things. Lucky no one got shot or worse, though shooting does seem like a good "let the punishment fit the crime". It sure does to me and I'd provide the matches. Hard time in an adult correction facility might do these good. Anyway, it will teach them not to bend over in the showers to pick up soap unless their backs are against the wall.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 27, 2013 21:47:34 GMT -6
They might get what they deserve if they actually go to jail or prison. I don't have much faith in our justice system anymore. They will probably just get a slap on the wrist and sent back out on the streets so they can burn down more haunted houses.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 27, 2013 22:10:43 GMT -6
It seems that several of the idiot criminals who got drunk and burned down the plantation were from Texas. Now they have really annoyed the crap out of me. Not only are they giving ghost hunters a bad name but they are defaming Texas too. For that I think the idiots should have their names and faces plastered all over the internet so everybody in the world will know how stupid they are. Oh, wait...I forgot. How "allegedly" stupid they are since they haven't been convicted yet. Names and photo from dallasnews.com crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/11/4-grand-prairie-ghost-hunters-among-group-charged-with-burning-down-la-plantation.html/From the article: "Seven people in all were arrested, including another person from Fort Worth who investigators reportedly called the ringleader of the group. They were charged with various crimes, including arson, burglary and trespassing.
The four men arrested from Grand Prairie were Joshua Allen, 21; Joshua Briscoe, 20; Jerry Hamblen, 17, and Joseph Landin, 20. The man arrested from Fort Worth was 31-year-old Dusten Davenport. The other two men arrested, Kevin Barbe, 20, and Byron Meek, 29, were from Louisiana."Most of them are in their early 20s. Just a bunch of young punks who have no respect for anything.
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Post by casper on Nov 28, 2013 10:48:59 GMT -6
I don't think they are ghost hunters either. Ghost hunters don't burn haunted houses down. Just because a ghost doesn't show up the first time doesn't mean it won't later on. These people are all losers. I wonder where the ghosts are gonna go now that they have no home? Poor ghosts.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 28, 2013 15:26:17 GMT -6
I think they should force the criminals to pay to have the house rebuilt. It wouldn't be historical anymore other than in appearance but it would teach the criminals a lesson.
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Post by casper on Nov 30, 2013 23:24:01 GMT -6
So what happened to them? Did they get put in jail?
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Post by skywalker on Dec 1, 2013 0:13:02 GMT -6
I'm not sure what exactly is going to happen to the criminal idiots. So far they have been arrested and charged with arson, burglary and causing damage to property in excess of $50,000 dollars. Since it only happened a few days ago they probably haven't appeared in court for the arraignment yet so it still isn't clear what is going to happen to them. If I had to take a wild guess I would say they will probably have to pay a fine and get put on probation. I doubt they will go to prison. We can always hope though.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Dec 1, 2013 22:33:25 GMT -6
Here is some interesting history about the old place. old-new-orleans.com/NO_LeBeau.htmlHard to believe that it survived the Civil War only to be burned down by a bunch of drunken idiots. The bond for the drunken idiots to get out of jail has been set at $350,000 each, except for the ringleader who got a bond of $450,000. Needless to say I don't think they will be getting out of jail before their trial.
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Post by casper on Dec 12, 2013 22:01:45 GMT -6
I keep hearing people say that those guys should all go to prison. Do you really think that is what should happen to them? There are people who murder and rob people and don't go to prison for it. All these guys did was braek into an old house and set fire to it. I'm not making excuses for them because it was a stupid thing to do and they are idiots but do you really think they should get locked up? That's kind of harsh isn't it?
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Post by casper on Dec 12, 2013 22:03:07 GMT -6
On the other hand they did burn down a haunted house so maybe they should get fried in the lectric chair.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 13, 2013 20:26:36 GMT -6
Well, dude, here's what I think about it. These clowns committed several different crimes. First they were trespassing on private property, then they were breaking and entering, then they were getting drunk and using drugs, and after all that they intentionally set the place on fire and burned it to the ground. They may have just been a bunch of good ol' boys out having a good time and maybe they aren't evil like rapists and murderers are but we can't just let them get away with doing something like this because if nothing happens to them then people all over the country are going to be going out and breaking into people's houses and burning them to the ground and thinking they can get away with it too. They have to be punished somehow, if for no other reason than to set an example for all the other potential fire-starting idiot criminals out there. Things like this cannot be tolerated especially since their irresponsible actions caused a huge amount of damage. The house they burned down wasn't just some old abandoned shack...it was a huge historical one of a kind mansion that had been built before the civil war. Even in the dilapidated condition it was in it was probably worth a couple million dollars and from a historical point of view it was priceless. You can't just replace something like that. It would be like setting fire to the Mona Lisa or something like that. Once it's gone it is gone forever. You also have the fact that the property owners had already invested several hundred thousand dollars into renovating and reinforcing the building so they lost all of that money too.
So what should the justice system do? Should we just give them a slap on the wrist and send them back out on the street to commit more crimes? Like I said before if they are allowed to get away with this then what is to stop anybody else from doing it? The way I see it the only thing that can be done is to either make them pay for the damage that they caused or put them in prison. If they were to pay for the damage it would probably cost them each several hundred thousand dollars and I doubt that any of those bozos will ever have anywhere near that kind of money. The only option left is prison. I don't think they should go there for the rest of their lives but they still need to go. It's a shame that the lives of seven people have to be destroyed because of one night of "having fun" but they are the ones who chose to make that mistake. It's no different than if somebody went out and got drunk then got in a car and drove over a bunch of little kids who were walking down the sidewalk. The drunk didn't mean to do it...but he still did it.
If all the guys did was sneak into an abandoned house and look for ghosts it might not have been so bad. I used to do things like that when I was a teenager so I can't really criticize them for that. I never vandalized the house or set it on fire though. That was way over the line and that is what got them in trouble. They screwed their lives up pretty royally.
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Post by auntym on Oct 26, 2017 13:48:21 GMT -6
www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2017/10/daily-2-cents-scary-little-man-by-my.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhantomsAndMonstersAPersonalJourney+%28Phantoms+and+Monsters%29 Ghost Hunters Busted in CemeteryPosted by Lon Strickler / plus.google.com/+LonStricklerTwo Duluth-area conservation officers chased down two suspected poachers Saturday night in what became a haunting tale of paranormal behavior. Conservation officers Andy Schmidt and Kipp Duncan, who patrol the Duluth area for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, were staking out a cemetery near where there had been recent complaints of people "shining" deer. Using a flashlight or spotlight to locate deer at night is illegal if you have a gun or bow in your vehicle. Shining lights to look for animals is allowed for the first two hours after sunset nightly, but only if there is no gun or bow in the vehicle. The officers' stakeout — in a small, dark cemetery in an undisclosed location — was closer to midnight than sunset. "We were in the truck waiting for something to happen when this car pulled into the cemetery," Schmidt told the News Tribune on Monday. "We could see they were using some sort of light. But it wasn't really a beam of light. ... It was flashing on and off like a strobe." Schmidt and Duncan debated whether the suspects were breaking any law but eventually decided the action constituted shining — or at least was unusual enough to find out what was going on. "So we pulled out to talk to them and they took off. ... We had to chase after them and hit them with the (flashing) lights out on the road," Schmidt said. The suspects eventually stopped and the officers approached their car. It turned out to be two women from Calumet, on the Iron Range, who appeared to be in their late 30s or early 40s, Schmidt said. They didn't have any gun or bow in the car. "When we asked them what they were doing with the lights they wouldn't tell us. They said we'd make fun of them," Schmidt said. Eventually the women fessed up: They had been looking for ghosts in the graveyard. "She explained they were using their phone camera flash to spot ghosts. They said that you can't see ghosts with a normal light, that you have to use a flash," Schmidt said. "I didn't realize ghosts only show up with flash." Duncan then noticed an unusual blinking light on one of the women's smartphones. It was an app, they explained, called Ghost Radar. "They said it would allow you to see where the ghosts were that you couldn't see," Schmidt said. Ghost Radar's website advertises the app as "the original application designed to detect paranormal activity." In the end, the women were allowed to go on their way. No ticket was issued. - Duluth game wardens find ghost hunters in cemetery www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2017/10/daily-2-cents-scary-little-man-by-my.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhantomsAndMonstersAPersonalJourney+%28Phantoms+and+Monsters%29
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