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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2011 22:06:56 GMT -6
I'm not sure if it was a 'weapon' classification or not but one of the creatures held an 'instrument' to my neck that felt freezing cold and it left a mark on my neck horizontally about 4 inches long. It was purplish and that night it peeled like a burn..it also healed in a couple of days. I saw no food, no lighting source (although it was light) and tables were glass like or ceramic..not metal. They did take blood as well as other fluid samples..so I can't say the circulatory system was of no interest to them. Without a doubt..they were using some mental capacity for control as my head felt 'stuffed' and pressured..I also know it doesn't work on everyone or maybe it doesn't work as well if the subject is hysterical. My friend was out of her head with hysteria and it took more of them to finally calm her. Memories begin to get very 'sketchy' after that point. ~hugs~
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Post by sunbow on Mar 25, 2011 18:22:24 GMT -6
We saw the ship (didn't think ship at the time, thought luminous being because the mental was so strong), then we were in a dazzling bright light, then my body was not where it was one second ago, then the light stops, the ship leaves and its morning already. Thank goodness they took a scoop of flesh from my palm, which never bled or seemed like any wound I ever had before.
Dreams and memories that remained could be altered. They worked together and efficiently.
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Post by auntym on Mar 26, 2011 14:40:31 GMT -6
www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/HopkinsHandwritingAnalysis.htm Comparison of handwriting and drawing samples by two different witnesses in the "Linda Case" by Budd Hopkins In her latest YouTube offering, Carol Rainey has made the claim that the handwriting on an envelope sent to me by witness Janet Kimball and the handwriting of Linda Cortile are one and the same. In fact, there are many dissimilarities among several letters and numbers in the two meager samples Rainey presents in her latest attempt to discredit Linda and debunk the case. A more in-depth examination by experienced researchers, and an email from graphologist Roger Rubin whom Rainey interviewed on camera, shows that it cannot possibly be established that the writers are the same person based on her weak presentation. The well-known, reliable investigator Don Ledger posted the following on UFO Updates on March 7, 2011: "What I saw did not convince me, Carol. In fact if anything I question your expert. You have the two different Budd Hopkins written in each case and not only in my estimation did the Hs or 2s not match, but identical letters in the names - either before or after - didn't come close to matching. BTW - a recent forensic case here in Canada involving a doctor's expert testimony - basically he lied - resulted in seeing some 30 people wrongly convicted over a period of some 20 years, some of whom spent a decade of more in prison for something they did not do. He was no expert and has since lost his license to practice; however for some reason has not been charged with giving false testimony. My advice, find three or four more experts to come up with the same opinion." To my knowledge, Rainey has not replied to this post of over a week ago. Based on input I have received from other astute observers, I note the following from observing the video: S: Almost all of Linda's S's have tails that slant radically up. The one example of Janet's S is tucked at the end and does not have a tail. There is a word in one of Linda's documents when the S is not tucked, but every other one has a tail. H: Linda starts with a straight down stroke for the first line of the H. Janet starts with a curved line going down and then up leading to the top of the down stroke for the first line of the H. The downward slant in the middle of the H is common and is not idiosyncratic. Linda's and Janet's H's are not virtually identical as Rubin states. B: Linda's B starts at the top and loops around to the left and to the top to complete the right side of the B. Janet's B starts at the bottom below the address line and comes straight up to the top to begin the formation of the right side of the B. O: Linda's O's all have loops that go straight through the O to begin formation of the next letter. Janet's O does not have a loop and looks more like an A. 2: Linda's documents have three 2 examples. In two of them they are completely different from Janet's 2. There are two examples of the 2 in Janet's writings. Both of Janet's 2's are slanted to the right, and have a line at the end of the loop in the 2 that goes straight down below the 2. Linda's other 2 is not slanted right and has a line at the end of the loop that starts up and then curves down very slightly below the 2. N: Linda's small N is tight at the beginning of it. Janet's small N is tight at the end of the letter. They are not the same. The above clearly visible information shows that it is obvious that the two handwriting samples are not from the same person. And Rubin does not stand by his "opinions" (as he describes his findings) with any real conviction today. Contacted by a member of my team, he replied in an email on March 12, 2011 that, "this case is very old and unfortunately I don't have a file under her [Kimball's] name or Carol Rainey's. I only retain a vague recollection of my encounter with the writing and shooting the video…Not remembering the case prevents me from asserting what standards or tests I used." He goes on to say that "All findings are open to interpretation and challenge. My findings are not considered as factual or evidentiary, they are opinions and can be contested by opposing opinions." All interested readers can examine for themselves the letters and numbers in Rainey's tape and check out the dissimilar details Mr. Rubin apparently overlooked. Also I have found in my files more handwriting by Janet Kimball which could help any future graphologist make a more accurate analysis of the similarities/dissimilarities in the writing. If need be, I will take these samples and the Kimball envelope to new experts, along with additional samples of Linda's writing. TO CONTINUE READING CLICK ON ABOVE LINK
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Post by paulette on Mar 27, 2011 11:11:13 GMT -6
Auntym - I am in awe of your data collection. YOU MIGHT BE the one who debunks Budd Hopkin's slanderer! Are you in touch with anyone who might fund a more thorough study??? I'd contribute.
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Post by auntym on Mar 27, 2011 14:42:11 GMT -6
Auntym - I am in awe of your data collection. YOU MIGHT BE the one who debunks Budd Hopkin's slanderer! Are you in touch with anyone who might fund a more thorough study??? I'd contribute. WOW PAULETTE....what a great compliment....thank you.... to be honest i don't do anything great....i get all my info from TWITTER and the great people & organizations we follow on twitter, then GOOGLE and YOUTUBE.... anyone could do this.... what i am good at is COPY & PASTING... ;D .... it appears that is my specialty.... LOL i don't know of anyone that would fund a project like what you're talking about....but, if i run into one, i'll definitely let you know.... i wish BUDD HOPKINS all the best, i believe this slander with carol rainey has got to be draining his physical & mental health....this man needs lots of prayers.... i really appreciate your compliment paulette....you just made my day... auntym
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Post by ajoiner on Apr 15, 2011 2:57:30 GMT -6
Hello Auntym, As you can see I took you up on your offer. Thanks for inviting me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 3:23:25 GMT -6
Hello Auntym, As you can see I took you up on your offer. Thanks for inviting me. Hello ajoiner. Welcome to the forum. ;D
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Post by auntym on Apr 15, 2011 10:10:52 GMT -6
Hello Auntym, As you can see I took you up on your offer. Thanks for inviting me. i'm happy you accepted.... .... we are all pleased to hear from you...
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Post by Steve on Apr 15, 2011 19:53:55 GMT -6
Carol Rainey's cruel documentary on Budd Hopkins' life work should be viewed as yet another money-making venture by a person too immersed in the intellectually dishonest skeptical stance of mainstream academics against the paranormal and not immersed enough in what the ideal of open, honest scholarly and scientific methods produce. And that is real knowledge about real phenomena, whatever "negative emotional aura" that phenomena might happen to have. KR Rainey's motives might be many. But there is much also being left unspoken. For Rainey to be vindicative of Budd, perhaps on a personal level, a level of vindictiveness beyond attacking just Budd's research work. At the 2008 mufon symposium, it was quietly acknowledged among some present Leslie Kean and Hopkins were an item - learning Hopkins had recently split from Rainey. This really is at the root of all this. I believe personal lives should remain personal, but why does Rainey conspicuously never mention her and Budd's mutual friend Leslie Kean too in contributing to the end of their relationship? Not defending Rainey now, just fed up remaining quiet about everything in this mess. The bedroom debatably has silently influenced many an empire (both real & self imagined), I think they call this soap opera. Unfortunately, we wonder why since 1947 and perhaps long before - the legitimate questions and answers about UFO's remain frustratingly unanswered. The answer may not be govt disinformation, but self inflicted by endless monotonous lectures in halls filled with 'Egos' & 'Experts'. I am ashamed & sorry to even have to mention this. Hopkins life work is solid in my opinion. Dr. John Mack M.D. thought so, enough to seriously explore it risking his own Harvard academic reputation on it. In my own humble research collaborating closely with a certified hypnotherapist and a physician, we have recorded & documented - and confirmed Budd's findings from multiple 'experiencers. Oppenheimer had his personal life too, in the larger picture - he still collaboratively gave us his 'Trinity'. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Apr 15, 2011 22:59:57 GMT -6
I never really took Rainey's criticisms of Hopkins seriously simply because they recently went through a bitter divorce. Ex-wives always criticise their ex-husbands, and the other way around. She doesn't need any other reason to be vindictive. The old saying that Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned was said for a reason and it's not because ex-wives forgive and forget.
I think that Budd Hopkins was one of the great pioneers of ufology, seeking answers to questions that had never even been asked. If nothing else he at least opened the door so that others might follow.
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Post by auntym on Apr 19, 2011 22:14:51 GMT -6
CNN/ Man Describes Alien Encounter
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Aug 22, 2011 5:49:03 GMT -6
I'm sad to report that Budd Hopkins passed away yesterday from complications due to cancer and pneumonia. Here's the notice that Leslie Kean sent out yesterday: Budd Hopkins June 15, 1931 - August 21, 2011 I’m very sad to announce that Budd Hopkins died today, August 21, at 1:35 pm. Budd had been under hospice care for about three weeks, at his home in New York. The combination of liver cancer and pneumonia led to his death. His daughter Grace Hopkins-Lisle and I were with him almost continuously during these past weeks. He was not in any pain throughout any of the process, and he received the best possible care and loving support from those closest to him. Today he gradually slipped away, and simply quietly stopped breathing. He died peacefully and without any struggle, with Grace, Grace’s husband Andrew, and me by his side.
Thanks to all of you for being such strong supporters of this extraordinary man, who has contributed so much to our lives, in so many different ways.
- Leslie KeanBudd was one of the pioneers of ufology and a tireless researcher. His contributions to the study of the abduction phenomenon opened the door for other researchers to follow. He will be missed.
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2011 9:09:47 GMT -6
Thank you for this sad news. It was expected. I met him in 2008 and he was stricken then. My physician friend, which Budd and him were old personal friends - confided to me later privately he thought Budd would only last about 3 to 6 months back then. It was a blessing he lasted longer. Budd was so kind to spend in his busy schedule at the symposium an hour or more privately one on one discussing abductions and his work with me. What an honor.
The sun came up this morning without Budd, but quietly his work both in research and in easing the anxieties of many experiencers goes on.
Some with accreditation's and degrees in the past may have at times criticized Mr. Hopkins for lacking certain professional degrees associated with the pursuit of his work. But he was also trained by many professional colleagues associated with him in their interest in Budds work too.
Perhaps in another sense, he was not blinded by, or constrained by those same degrees in seeing with courage a new and controversial human concern very clearly. Dr. John Mack learned from his friend Budd there was something going on worth the risk professionally to him to explore and investigate.
I maybe mistaken, but I believe Leslie Kean now will be responsible for preserving the great body of research Budd did in his extraordinary life.
Perhaps I can write more later after some quiet reflection.
A great loss.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 9:46:29 GMT -6
If you believe like I do...Bud knows ALL the secrets now and we're still struggling to learn them. God speed Bud.
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Post by paulette on Aug 22, 2011 10:18:49 GMT -6
Another guiding person in this field has gone beyond. Solar winds in your sails Bud...
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Post by auntym on Aug 22, 2011 10:29:34 GMT -6
what a major loss.... R.I.P Budd Hopkins ....
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Post by auntym on Aug 22, 2011 13:56:48 GMT -6
www.unknowncountry.com/journal/man-courage-has-died A Man of Courage has Diedby Whitley Strieber Monday, August 22, 2011 Budd Hopkins died on August 21 after a years-long struggle with cancer. He will be little remarked outside of the small community of witnesses and researchers who care about the great enigma that is the hidden center of the human experience, but the work he did in this world and on behalf of mankind was of incalculable importance and I hope one day that his achievement will be honored in the manner it deserves. He did not approve of my approach to this enigma, but we had more in common than he realized. In any case, I forgave him for his various attacks on me as soon as they happened. I responded to them no more than absolutely necessary to protect my good name. I did this because I knew that they arose out of the strength of his conviction that the close encounter experience is an arbitrary intrusion into human life that offers us no benefit. He was a true pioneer, and his effort on behalf of us close-encounter witnesses, or, as he preferred to call us, abductees, was a noble gift both to us and to mankind. He gave his life to us, and he deserves no less from us than the greatest respect we can offer. With that in mind, I wish to remember him now in the context of what he did for me after I came to him with my own report of my December, 1985 encounter. The first step I took after the encounter was to go to my doctor. I had been warned earlier in the year by a member of Senator Kennedy's office staff that there was a rumor that the Administration might play some dirty tricks on me because of my book Warday, which had very much annoyed them. So I thought that it was possible that I had been assaulted. I also worried that, if not an assault, then there might be some organic brain disease involved. The idea of alien abduction initially did not cross my mind. But due to a book my brother had given me for Christmas, I subsequently became aware that some people believed in alien abductions. Budd was mentioned in the book so I tracked him down and went to visit him at his home in Manhattan. I found a kind, welcoming and dedicated man. At the time, I already knew that I had been raped, but I could not bear to say this. In fact, I was unable to say it to anybody for twenty years, and have only recently begun to be able to talk about it directly at all. Budd, though, was immediately sensitive to my suffering. He had already spoken to many witnesses and I'm sure he knew without being told the whole story what I was going through. He was open-hearted and, above all, giving of his resources, his mind and his support, not only to me but to all the other witnesses who entered his life. CONTINUE READING: www.unknowncountry.com/journal/man-courage-has-died#ixzz1VmzdgXdB
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 14:47:06 GMT -6
Fare thee well Mr. Hopkins. I am glad that you have finally been relieved of the discomfort of your illnesses. Rest in peace sir.
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2011 17:14:12 GMT -6
"Steve, there will be a tribute to Bud Hopkins tonight on Coast to coast. I am one of the researchers called to speak." Paola Harris. I was present in San Marino, Italy in 1998 with these early two pioneers ...now part of UFO history. Bud Hopkins, Colonel Philip Corso. I just got this Email from my dear freind - Paola Harris. She will along with many others pay tribute to Budd Hopkins tonight (August 22, 2011) on Coast to Coast. Steve
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Post by auntym on Aug 22, 2011 17:44:02 GMT -6
jerrypippin We have a tribute to Bud Hopkins who passed away Sunday on the air right now on...[/size] inceptionradionetwork.com/listen-live/scroll 1/3 of the way down screen on right hand side and click on the green button
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Post by auntym on Aug 25, 2011 16:28:45 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Aug 26, 2011 0:18:21 GMT -6
I must go to bed, but will watch this in the morning you can count on it..
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Post by auntym on Oct 12, 2011 12:04:36 GMT -6
www.theufochronicles.com/2011/10/budd-hopkins-memorial-lovely-affair.htmlWednesday, October 12, 2011 Budd Hopkins Memorial: "Lovely Affair Celebrating the Life and Work of this Wonderful Man" By David Biedny www.facebook.com/dbiedny10-11-11 I wanted to briefly comment on the memorial held yesterday for Budd Hopkins, at the 15th Street Friends Meeting House. The weather could not have been better, it was a clear, perfect day for this lovely affair celebrating the life and work of this wonderful man - one I'm proud to be able to call a true friend - and it primarily focused on his work in the art field, clearly demonstrating that Budd was really one of the most respected Abstract Expressionists of the famed New York School. Leslie Kean started the proceedings with her cool, professional demeanor, even though it was obvious that she misses her partner, friend and love. Any of us would be blessed to have that kind of tenderness in our lives, and something that was plain to see was the depth of respect and love that these two people had for each other, it was both reassuring and inspiring. His daughter showed slides of many of Budd's artworks, which were bold, colorful and as direct as the man himself. Another thing that many spoke of was Budd's sense of humor, and I can personally attest that he loved laughing like few others, and there was some really nice footage of Budd being, well, Budd. Peter Robbins delivered an eloquent eulogy, describing working with Budd, and how much influence Budd had on his own way of thinking and dealing with others. Randy Nicherson played a video tribute to Budd, full of poignant, heartfelt scenes - there was another video compilation presented towards the end, done by Seth Keal and Charles Miller, with some really heartwarming footage of Budd dancing with his granddaughter. Another picture of Budd, his daughter, son-in-law and granddaughter clearly demonstrated the uncanny resemblance of Budd and his daughter's daughter. He will live on in her. David Jacobs spoke about Budd's work in the field of abduction research, but what really came through was how much David loved Budd as a human being and close friend. That was also evident in the way that people spoke about Budd afterwards, small conversations overheard during the subsequent reception confirmed that there was not a bad thought about Budd anywhere near the event. There are many more details - some interesting UFO folks were in attendance, but they were outnumbered by the artist friends, thankfully - but suffice it to say that any of us would be happy and fulfilled to have this much love manifest at our departures. To those who would attack his research, and accuse him of being a flawed human, of not being 100% hardass about his dealings with alleged abduction victims and potential hoaxers - I personally witnessed the degree of comfort this brave man gave some very distraught people, folks who were scared, confused and who didn't have anyone to turn to without being marginalized or ridiculed, and for that work alone, he should be celebrated and respected. If he was fooled by some unscrupulous folks, his decision to err on the side of kindness and compassion is perhaps a byproduct of his intensely powerful humanity and sincere desire to help others. Those who would vilify him would be well advised to check their own glass houses for hidden piles of large, rough stones. Budd Hopkins was a great man, and I for one will miss him something urgent. CONTINUE READING: www.theufochronicles.com/2011/10/budd-hopkins-memorial-lovely-affair.html
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2011 20:04:17 GMT -6
In his comments, Mr. Biedlny was relieved 'those UFO folks' in attendance for his memorial service were out numbered by his artist friends ..... thankfully" Hopkins was many things, and very much so....a notable Abstract Expressionist Artist. I can humbly say 'this UFO folk' appreciates fine art too. I have sold a few pieces of my own 'art' (to my surprise...$300.00 some 15 years ago - they simply had to have it I guess), and have even two nationally awarded maritime models on display the last two decades in a local maritime museum for what that is worth. Nothing remotely to Hopkins. One could make a stink about that last word and it's intended 'slight' . But since this is importantly about Budd, I will just let Mr. Biedny word speak for - or sink himself. More a reflection of Biedny....than Mr. Hopkins. I certainly in all my heart agree with everything else Mr. Biedny writes. I just got the latest Mufon journal (September 2011), and was annoyed by the usual....... lets just say....'stuff'. A laughable article by Terry Groff on page 3 about Mufon's 'missing cases' not being missing, all duplication of reports, deleted for profanity, 'system abuse', 'non-case information'...... all true, BUT not the whole truth. 'System abuse and non case information'? This reads (perhaps not surprisingly) like one of the Nixon administration's old 'non operative statements' during the Watergate era. A nice gentleman & author Robert Hastings who wrote a brilliant book called 'UFO's and Nukes' is preparing another work, either as a large article series, or as a book - will be addressing in detail focusing on these 'missing cases' among a number of other serious questions about Mufon. I was interviewed by Hastings two months ago, one among many many others corroborating evidence. Mr. Hastings can hopefully speak for all of us then..... The other disturbing issue with the latest Mufon Journal is placing appallingly Budd Hopkin's obituary way in the back of the journal...page 21 of a journal 23 pages long. In the back of the journal? Awful! Mufon still doesn't 'get it'. Having had the opportunity to meet Budd and even spend time with me alone in his busy schedule ...a comparative no body like me....to share wonderful advice and knowledge discussing my cases.... In light of the current backdrop I have related here, Mr. Biedny's memoriam states it well for me....."Budd Hopkins was a great man, and I for one will miss him something urgent.". Steve
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Post by skywalker on Oct 13, 2011 7:25:05 GMT -6
If UFOs were important to Budd than they should be important to the people who claimed to care about him. The least they could do is give him a little bit of respect.
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Post by auntym on Jan 26, 2012 13:43:53 GMT -6
sites.google.com/site/paranormalzonex/aliens-info/Alien-Abduction-01 Budd Hopkins and UFO Research Alien Encounters and Missing TimeUploaded by AVIMOAS1 on Jan 26, 2009 Does alien abduction really happen, or is it the product of vivid imaginations? CNN\'s Miles O\'Brien reports. Uploaded by SeanFromIT on Jul 4, 2008 A hard-hitting interview with Budd Hopkins, UFO Abduction Researcher & Author. Uploaded by ExtraterrestrialTV on Sep 26, 2009 A three part report on the experiences of several alien abductees. Includes interviews with renowned alien abduction researcher, Budd Hopkins. PART 2 Uploaded by ExtraterrestrialTV on Sep 26, 2009 PART 3 Uploaded by ExtraterrestrialTV on Sep 26, 2009 COPY & PASTE THIS LINK INTO YOUR ADDRESS TO READ ARTICLE:sites.google.com/site/paranormalzonex/aliens-info/Alien-Abduction-01
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Post by auntym on Jun 19, 2014 12:07:48 GMT -6
UFO Alien Abductions RARE FOOTAGE Budd Hopkins Intruders Debbie Tomey Kathie Davis Wallace Wallis
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Post by lois on Jun 19, 2014 22:36:10 GMT -6
UFO Alien Abductions RARE FOOTAGE Budd Hopkins Intruders Debbie Tomey Kathie Davis Wallace Wallis When I tell about I think the aliens took my memories way back ever since mufon, I would tell of a woman who stated years ago . They took something from my head. She also stated I think it was my memories. Auntym the abductee in the video is her. Thanks for posting I just had to tell this here. I don't know why they would want my memory, like Rike said Lois they know everything about you so why take your memory . To keep is stored away for some later date is what I would tell him. I was astonished when this witness told it. I'm talking about the 1972 ship that had me for almost four hours. I always thought they took my memories. It is like you know but don't know how you know.
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