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Post by paulette on Mar 11, 2014 10:49:27 GMT -6
I'm sure everyone has heard about the missing jetful of people that may have crashed off the coast of Vietnam.
What I have heard in various reports about it here was:
It seemed to alter its course, make an abrupt turn and disappear off the radar. Later they said, "Well...maybe it was an expected course change." It didn't sound like they thought so initially.
There were a lot of people flying with false or other people's passports on board.
There had been no indication of a problem prior to its disappearance.
Various things floating in the ocean were NOT from a jet. There was an oil slick but it did NOT contain jet fuel. There was a piece of plastic once thought to be a part but it turned out to be plastic ocean junk.
A technology company (computer people) in Vancouver said they had had 20 people on board. (Since there were only two Canadians by ID, this suggests a think tank of people from other countries).
It appears to have VANISHED. Of course here, we can hypothesize that it went into another dimension or maybe into one of those clouds that aren't clouds....?
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Post by paulette on Mar 12, 2014 9:17:58 GMT -6
Still no explanations EXCEPT that the military tracked the plane for over an hour after it changed course and stopped any radio contact. That suggests a highjacking of some sort - but if so, where did the plane GO? Terry and I were talking and I said, "Maybe it crashed into the jungle" and HE SAID, "There would be a large explosion (from the jet fuel) that would have been visible from satellite surveyance." Hmmmmmmm.
Is there good enough surveyance to track an airplane from the various videos being shot all the time from space?
The searchers are now looking hundreds of kilometers from where they first thought it got into trouble.
Its interesting that no one here has any hunches, theories, etc.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 12, 2014 10:59:39 GMT -6
I think the plane was probably hijacked. There were supposedly some Iranians on board with stolen passports and Iran is definitely a terrorist producing country. Why else would they have stolen passports if they weren't planning on doing something illegal? As for where the plane went, who knows? It could have crashed into the ocean somewhere and be sitting on the bottom of the sea, or the terrorists could have forced it to fly to some foreign country somewhere and land. Radar tracking in that part of the world isn't as great as it is over here and that's especially true when it's out over the ocean. Planes disappear over the ocean all the time. That plane could be just about anywhere right now. Satellite photos wouldn't be able to track a moving plane. They could find it on the ground if they knew where to look but the world is a very big place. We may never find out what happened to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 11:53:41 GMT -6
There were two people using false passports and a good possibility of hijacking. I've a good friend who has a phd in aeronautical engineering. According to him...it's either hijacked and down somewhere or it was obliterated in mid air way too quickly for the pilots to react..no one would have time to react and there would be little debris. He doubts seriously if the oil slicks have anything to do with that plane..and he does understand their limits, he's worked on them. If it had gone down whole..it would have split apart in the water debris would be showing..seats etc. Lots of places to hide...even a plane that large.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 12, 2014 13:35:49 GMT -6
The radar showed that the plane made a sudden turn and started traveling out of route right at the same time they lost radio contact with it. That sounds like a hijacking to me. All the people are either dead or being held hostage somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2014 15:48:49 GMT -6
hope they are alive..a toddler and an infant aboard too
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Post by paulette on Mar 13, 2014 8:58:00 GMT -6
Hijackers (or their surviving friends) usually make an announcement claiming responsibility for the act for whatever crazy reason they had. The silence around this one is unusual. IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 10:02:46 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Mar 13, 2014 12:46:55 GMT -6
Thanks for the info!
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Post by auntym on Mar 13, 2014 13:13:55 GMT -6
ufos.about.com/b/2014/03/12/is-there-a-ufo-connection-to-missing-flight-370.htm Is There a UFO Connection to missing Flight 370?By Billy Booth March 12, 2014 Since the disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370, and so far no wreckage being found, various theories have been developed as to the cause or location of the plane; among them is that of alien abduction. I knew when I first saw that there would be no quick solution to the whereabouts of the plane, this would happen. So many interested parties have called or written MUFON suggesting a UFO connection, that the organization had to make a public statement. Executive Director Jan C. Harzan answered the questions this way: "We have not received any UFO reports from that region during the time of the flight or around the time period where it may have crashed," Harzan said. "Historically there are very few UFO cases where an airplane is involved and then it just disappears." What do you think? Could there be a UFO connection to the loss of Flight 370? ufos.about.com/b/2014/03/12/is-there-a-ufo-connection-to-missing-flight-370.htm
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Post by skywalker on Mar 13, 2014 13:33:35 GMT -6
I knew it wouldn't be long before the UFO connection was made. I actually heard people mentioning it several days ago. It would have to be a big mother to skyjack a 777. Those aren't exactly tiny planes.
I'm still leaning towards an earthly explanation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 15:39:19 GMT -6
I posted to this but it didn't stick around. I've a tendency to believe the oil rig worker about the plane on fire..it is closest to my friend's scenario...and makes the most sense to me. Less debris if it burns. Until it's found..if it is..then it's fair game for any opinion including Paulette's ..slipping into another dimension..it's as good as any other..and to be honest..if I got to have a vote..I'd much rather it were a UFO or something dimensional because then at least life had a chance. I'm afraid the truth of the tragedy is that everyone on board perished and we may never know why..malfunction or bomb.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 13, 2014 20:17:21 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 21:21:16 GMT -6
They need now to figure approx. how far the plane could have flown in 4 hours and work it from that angle. Sounds a lot more like a hijacking. I still hope they're on the ground somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 21:23:25 GMT -6
UPDATE: CNN reports that Malaysian acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein is called the report of engine data “inaccurate,” and Malaysia Airlines Chief Executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya denied that Rolls Royce and Boeing had received data from the engines after the plane disappeared at 1:30 am. CNN said that a Rolls Royce represented declined to comment, citing an ongoing investigation.
Sheesh...someone make up your minds LOL
That makes me wonder now..if someone knows where it landed or went down but are not keen on letting the information out yet...whatcha think?
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Mar 13, 2014 21:27:02 GMT -6
According to what I read it could have gone as far as 2,200 miles. They are only searching in an area of about 500 miles. There is no telling where that plane could be but they are never going to find it like that. It could have flown as far away as Australia, India or Pakistan.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Mar 13, 2014 21:36:45 GMT -6
UPDATE: CNN reports that Malaysian acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein is called the report of engine data “inaccurate,” and Malaysia Airlines Chief Executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya denied that Rolls Royce and Boeing had received data from the engines after the plane disappeared at 1:30 am. CNN said that a Rolls Royce represented declined to comment, citing an ongoing investigation. Sheesh...someone make up your minds LOL That makes me wonder now..if someone knows where it landed or went down but are not keen on letting the information out yet...whatcha think? As far as I know Malaysian officials were denying the engine signals yesterday but they finally admitted to it today. They are now widening the search area towards India.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Mar 13, 2014 21:38:03 GMT -6
Why am I posting as Morgan? I thought I was logged in on my other account.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 13, 2014 23:44:00 GMT -6
I just heard about an interesting conspiracy theory involving the plane crash. I can't pinpoint the original source so I can't provide any links yet so I'll just go over it briefly. Basically it said that there was a company in Austin, Texas called Freescale Semiconductor that had recently applied for some patent about "maximizing dies on a wafer"...whatever the heck that means. I'm assuming it's something technical which means it's probably worth a lot of money. The patent was owned by 5 people...4 were Chinese citizens who were employees of the company and the fifth was the company itself. Supposedly if the owners of a patent die the profits from the patent are then divided up among the remaining people. In this case, the four Chinese citizens were all onboard the now missing plane and are now presumed to be dead. The law says that they could have left the patent and it's profits to their heirs in their will but that could only be done after the patent had been approved...which did not happen until four days after the plane had crashed. What this all means is that all of the money from the patent will now go to the last surviving patent holder which is Freescale Semiconductor....which is owned by none other than Jacob Rothschild...from the same Rothschild family that own just about everything else in the country. Sounds like a good motive for a conspiracy theory. No way to know if there is any truth to it or not. It could just be a coincidence.
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Post by swamprat on Mar 14, 2014 7:05:25 GMT -6
News Release
Freescale Semiconductor Employees Confirmed Passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar. 8, 2014-- Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) has confirmed that 20 of its employees were confirmed passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Twelve are from Malaysia and eight are from China. The entire Freescale Semiconductor community is deeply saddened by this news. The company is continuing to monitor the situation and will provide more information as it becomes available. “At present, we are solely focused on our employees and their families,” said Gregg Lowe, president and CEO, Freescale. “Our thoughts and prayers are with those affected by this tragic event.” The company has assembled counselors and other professionals through Freescale’s Employee Assistance Program, with around-the-clock support for those impacted by this tragedy. About Freescale Semiconductor Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) is a global leader in embedded processing solutions, providing industry leading products that are advancing the automotive, consumer, industrial and networking markets. From microprocessors and microcontrollers to sensors, analog integrated circuits and connectivity – our technologies are the foundation for the innovations that make our world greener, safer, healthier and more connected. Some of our key applications and end-markets include automotive safety, hybrid and all-electric vehicles, next generation wireless infrastructure, smart energy management, portable medical devices, consumer appliances and smart mobile devices. The company is based in Austin, Texas, and has design, research and development, manufacturing and sales operations around the world. www.freescale.com media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1907348&highlight=
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 8:44:36 GMT -6
Okaaaaay.
so are we still talking "fake passports"?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 9:48:43 GMT -6
I hope that just remains a conspiracy theory Sky. Hideous to think anyone would slaughter people for profit...but it wouldn't be the first time
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Post by skywalker on Mar 15, 2014 9:44:14 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 9:52:16 GMT -6
The people who did this were very skilled...and it's very hard to pin point where it landed. 20 passengers were workers for the company in Texas...so I'm thinking the motive could be either ransom or technology piracy...If the motive is ransom...then I'm pretty sure ransom demands have already been received and we just accidentally got left out of the loop. It seems to be a common sport to hijack jumbo jets...either as weapons or for purposes unknown.
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Post by skywalker on Mar 15, 2014 11:41:03 GMT -6
I don't think that this was just some random terrorist attack. This was a very skilled operation done by people who knew exactly what they were doing. Since my brain is always thinking conspiracy no matter what I have naturally come up with a conspiracy theory. Check this one out. I was doing some research into the Freescale Semiconductor company and I found out that in addition to all of the electronic gadgets and gizmos they develop for civilian usage they also manufacture components designed for electronic warfare, such as HF, VHF and low-band UHF radar and radio communications, plus systems that could be used in satellites and missiles, or remote controlled drones. On March 3 they put out a press release announcing their new products for the defense industry. I posted an excerpt from it below... media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1905359&highlight=AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar. 3, 2014-- Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE: FSL), a global leader in radio frequency (RF) power transistors, today announced the availability of 11 new commercial RF power LDMOS products that can meet the requirements of U.S. defense electronics applications. This is the first set of products released as part of the company’s strategic defense initiatives for its RF power business, announced in June 2013.
Freescale now offers the level of support provided in other markets to U.S. defense systems customers, enabling them to optimize the performance of these RF devices for radar, military communications and electronic warfare applications. The products are included in Freescale’s Product Longevity Program to assure their availability for a minimum of 10 or 15 years, depending on the product. In addition, Freescale's dedicated team of RF defense market specialists have ITAR-compliant systems and processes to enable them to work with defense customers on projects that are subject to the ITAR requirements. There were 20 employees of this company onboard the plane that went missing and most of them were very high level company executives and researchers. They were on their way to Beijing probably to try to promote some of their products to Chinese companies. We all know that companies in China are all either owned and/or controlled by the Chinese government so any new technology that the companies might have obtained would have ultimately ended up in the hands of the Chinese military. Now, is it possible that maybe somebody...like perhaps maybe the CIA...might have decided that they did not want that plane to arrive at its destination? I also found out that the area where that plane disappeared is a perfect location to make a plane disappear. That particular spot has always caused trouble with radio and radar communications because it's an area of open water far away from any land-based radar and radio communications towers. They routinely lose momentary contact with planes in that area all the time. If somebody wanted to make a plane vanish off the face of the planet that is a great place to do it. We now know that whoever skyjacked this plane knew exactly how to do that. They switched off the radio communicators and the planes' transponder, they immediately flew up to over 45,000 feet in order to avoid civilian radar then they changed course several times in order to confuse anybody who might have been trying to track them. That level of sophistication and planning is way beyond and group of wild-eyed Islamic fanatics. I personally think that this was done either by the CIA or by an intelligence agency of another government that may or may not be friendly to us. The Iranians with the stolen passports could have been decoys to make people think it was an Islamic terrorist attack. the same could be said for the terrorist group that claimed responsibility for it. What exactly are they claiming responsibility for? There is no explosion, no crash, no dead bodies, no ransom demands...that's not how terrorists operate. It is how clandestine government operations work though. Whoever snatched this plane wanted the plane and its passengers and/or cargo intact. There may even have been some working prototypes of some of the electronic warfare gadgets onboard the plane. So we have this guy Jacob Rothschild from one of the richest and most powerful families in the world who stands to potentially gain who knows how many millions of dollars off of the patent on this wafer thingy if he can make his fellow patent-holders disappear. We also have the CIA, many of whom are probably on Rothschild's payroll, who also want to prevent the Chinese from getting their hands on this new technology. Those are both very powerful motives for a conspiracy theory. I think that the plane is on the ground and in one piece somewhere on this planet. There are a lot of Islands in that part of the world that are owned by the US government. A lot of those islands still have airstrips or military bases on them left over from WW2 and the Cold War. It would have been very easy to land that plane on one of them completely undetected. I think there is a very good chance the plane is sitting on the ground right now. Whether or not the passengers are still alive is another matter however. People who conduct covert operations like this are the same type of people who would consider 230-plus innocent dead people as "collateral damage." So how is that for a conspiracy theory?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 13:10:26 GMT -6
Pretty brilliant. I figured it had something to do with the Texan company (you Texans..always up to something) but I wasn't sure why it was going to be so important. Lovely motives..warfare & greed. I can't imagine they'd bother to keep the people alive. The people who play those kinds of games are not particularly compassionate. Too much going on right now. Russia making all aggressive..N. Korea making like the idiot he is..it's all making me feel really un-settled
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Post by auntym on Mar 16, 2014 12:42:25 GMT -6
www.perthnow.com.au/news/american-family-still-haunted-by-military-aircrafts-mysterious-disappearance-in-1950/story-fnii5s3z-1226855794913 American family still haunted by military aircraft’s mysterious disappearance in 1950 LINDA SILMALIS The Sunday Telegraph March 15, 2014 HORRIFIC memories came flooding back for Judy Gibson Jackson on learning that another aircraft had gone missing. As the rest of the world grappled to comprehend how a Boeing 777 commercial airliner carrying 239 passengers and crew on a routine flight could simply “vanish”, Mrs Jackson thought of the plane her own father had been on when it too disappeared without a trace in 1950. The plane, a Douglas C-54D, was transporting 36 servicemen and civilians from Alaska to Montana. Not unlike the ill-fated Malaysian Airlines flight, radio contact was lost two hours into the flight. Yet more than 60 years later and after one of the largest search missions ever conducted over American soil, the fate of USAF Flight 2469 and its 44 passengers and crew remains a mystery. There were even suggestions of UFO involvement by officials based at the Anchorage air force base from where it had departed. One official on duty in a control tower had reported a UFO hovering over a hangar “emitting a green light” a week before the disappearance, while another claimed to have seen “three orange cigar-shaped” UFOs flying in tandem above the base two days after the plane vanished. Mrs Jackson’s mother Bessie died just two years ago, never knowing what happened to her husband, US Sergeant Clarence Gibson, who was 35 when the plane went missing. Sgt Gibson left behind two daughters, Mrs Jackson’s elder sisters, and his pregnant wife. “He was her first love and she always said before she died, she wanted to know what happened,” Mrs Jackson said. “She was always afraid he was alive when the plane went down, and that he froze to death. She could never understand how a plane could just disappear. It was just gone. They declared him dead, but I don’t think she ever accepted it. She never really got over it.” The disappearance of Flight 2469 on January 26, 1950, still remains one of aviation’s most intriguing mysteries. Mrs Jackson, 63, who never met her father, having been born after his disappearance, has begun to lobby the Obama administration to resume the search. She empathises with the families of the missing Malaysian Airlines flight. “My mother didn’t have that closure, and I know what it did to her,” she said. “They’ll be going through a range of emotions, from hope, to sadness to frustration. Not knowing tears your heart out.” As aviation authorities yesterday expanded the search area for flight MH370, new theories as to what may have happened emerged, with talk of hijackers flying the plane off course for many hours among the possibilities being considered. www.perthnow.com.au/news/american-family-still-haunted-by-military-aircrafts-mysterious-disappearance-in-1950/story-fnii5s3z-1226855794913
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Post by swamprat on Mar 16, 2014 14:38:49 GMT -6
More on Flight 2469 from 1950:1950 Douglas C-54D disappearanceOn 26 January 1950, the Douglas C-54 Skymaster serial number 42-72469 disappeared en route from Alaska to Montana, with 44 people aboard. The aircraft made its last radio contact two hours into its eight hour flight; despite one of the largest rescue efforts carried out by the US military, no trace of the aircraft has ever been found. It is considered one of the largest groups of American military personnel to ever go missing. FlightThe aircraft was part of the Second Strategic Support Squadron, Strategic Air Command. out of Biggs AFB, Texas. In addition to its eight-man crew, it was carrying 36 passengers, including two civilians: a woman and her infant son. The aircraft had made an initial attempt to depart, but was delayed several hours after reporting trouble with one of its four engines. The aircraft was flying from Anchorage, Alaska to Great Falls, Montana; two hours after its eventual departure it reported it was on-course and had just passed over Snag, Yukon - but there were no further messages. SearchAn hour after it failed to show up in Montana, "Operation Mike", named for aircraft commander First Lt. Kyle L. McMichael, was launched, a search and rescue program combining as many as 85 American and Canadian planes, in addition to 7,000 personnel, searching 350,000 square miles of the Pacific Northwest. The search was aided by the fact soldiers and equipment had already been ferried north for the upcoming Exercise Sweetbriar, a joint Canada-US war games scenario. However continuance of the operation also confounded searchers, giving many false positive reports of smoke signals, garbled communications and sightings of "survivors". On January 30, a C-47 from the 57th Fighter Wing that had been participating in the search, stalled and crashed in the McClintoc mountains; its crew members were injured, but there were no fatalities. Its pilot walked 13 km to the Alaska Highway and flagged down a truck to call in support for his 5-8 crewmates. Later, (February 7 or February 16) a Royal Canadian Air Force C-47, KJ-936, crashed near Snag. Again, its four crew members sustained only light injuries. Later its wreckage would be temporarily mistaken for the missing C-54. The operation was indefinitely suspended on February 14, as the search planes were needed to investigate the crash of a B-36 that had been carrying, and had dropped its Fat Man type nuclear weapon, though the core of the weapon was lead in this case. AftermathOn February 20, the search was officially cancelled and notifications were sent to next of kin informing them that the passengers were presumed dead. Incidentally, there were two contemporary reports of unidentified flying objects by officers stationed at Elmendorf AFB, the first a week before the disappearance, and the second two days after the disappearance. On April 19, Sgt. William Y. Harrell reported from the control tower that he had seen two UFOs hovering over a hangar emitting a green light, a report backed by other soldiers at the base. On January 28, Lt. Col. Lester F. Mathison reported seeing three orange cigar-shaped UFOs flying in tandem above the base. Both cases were investigated by the Alaskan Air Command, who ruled only that the objects were neither weather phenomena nor recognized aircraft. The latter incident has also been catalogued as happening on January 26, within hours of the C-54's last transmission. In 2012, the descendants of the missing servicemen started a petition to the Federal government, through the We the People petition system, seeking to resurrect the search for their families' remains. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_Douglas_C-54D_disappearanceAccident descriptionLast updated: 16 March 2014 Date: Thursday 26 January 1950 Type: Douglas C-54D-1-DC Operator: United States Marine Corps Registration: 42-72469 C/n / msn: 10574 First flight: 1945 Crew: Fatalities: 8 / Occupants: 8 Passengers: Fatalities: 36 / Occupants: 36 Total: Fatalities: 44 / Occupants: 44 Airplane damage: Missing Airplane fate: Presumed damaged beyond repair Location: near Snag, YT ( Canada) Phase: En route (ENR) Nature: Military Departure airport: Anchorage-Elmendorf AFB, AK (EDF/PAED), United States of America Destination airport: Great Falls-Malmstrom AFB, MT (GFA/KGFA), United States of America Narrative:The USMC Douglas C-54 departed Elmendord AFB (EDF) on a flight to Great Falls (GFA). It took Amber Airway No.2 over Canada, but failed to arrive at its destination. Last radio contact was at 17:09 near Snag, YT. The wreckage still had not been found by 1951. aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19500126-0
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Post by plutronus on Mar 16, 2014 22:46:28 GMT -6
I'm sure everyone has heard about the missing jetful of people that may have crashed off the coast of Vietnam. The two ACARS (engine & support subsytems performance telemetry) satellite transmitters carriers (the data-subcircuits had their circuit-breakers pulled, according to UK IMMARSat engineers), the transmitters were transmitting for 7 hours past the the transponder turn-off time. By knowing the speed of light, and the time of arrival of the transmitter wave, they were able to determine the circle of the flight-path, and by measuring the time-epochs, they also know the direction of flight, irregardless of what the authorities are disclosing to the press, now that the US Intelligence agencies operates have arrived on scene and are managing things. They don't want the bad guys to know what they know. However, right around the time the transponders were turned off, the airplane did something odd, the aircraft climbed to 43,000 feet, which is above the Boeing 777-200 airfraim maximum passenger & crew compartment pressurization maximums, the cabin seals pop'd, depressurizing the cabin. The crew (flight-attendants) and the passengers cabins would have auto-deployed the emergency air-breathing masks, but those masks are only supplied with enough oxygen-time to enable pilots to descend an aircraft to a non-pressurized breathing altitude, but the plane remained at the higher altutude for over 15 minutes, everyone, except those in the cockpit, would have asphyxiated...and died. The airplane then descended down to 23,000 ft, likely to void the aircraft of the corpses. With the aircraft's load being considerably reduced, (239 x (avg) 180Lbs =) by 43,000 Lbs, the flight range of the aircraft is increased from the published 2,300 Mile range to upwards of 3,500 miles, which puts the plane within range of Al Qeda controlled territories. The reason for this is that the perpetrators want the plane, but not the people, that is the reason why there has been no ransoms message. No, they want plane, and they want it to appear to have crashed in deep Indian Ocean waters. The reason that the US Military, the French Military, the British Military are all actively searching for the plane, aside from the Humanitarian aspect, is that they all know, that a large airliner is capable of transporting very heavy weight. They plan to use the plane to carry a nuclear weapon to some distant target, such as the US or perhaps France, et cetera. Re; "FreeScale"....FreeScale is a very large semiconductors, integrated-circuits R&D and production company, having thousands of offices the world over. They are the defacto long-term (60 years) developer and promoting force of the modern portable hand-held personal-telephone, while they did not actually invent the cell-phone concept (QualComm), they were the pioneers of virtually everything else related to cell-phone type technology. Prior to shaving off their microcomputer products line into its own company....aka FreeScale, FreeScale was known by the parent company name of Motorola. Oh, and incidentally, the pilot is a political zealot, a photo of him wearing a T-Shirt has surfaced, that says, "Democracy is Dead". And he attended a political rally three hours prior to sitting in the pilot's chair. See: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581817/Doomed-airliner-pilot-political-fanatic-Hours-taking-control-flight-MH370-attended-trial-jailed-opposition-leader-sodomite.htmlplutronus
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