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Post by plutronus on Apr 18, 2014 14:35:31 GMT -6
We're always interested when one of our peeps gets interviewed on the radio. Let us know the details. Skwalker, thanks. And JCurio, I love your new avatar, it is both visually and Spiritually refreshing. Re; the two upcoming interviews, the first will be hosted by Revolution Radio at www.FreedomSlips.com, via the Fenton Perspective, Monday, Apr 21, 2014, at 8:00pm - 10:00pm EST. Subject? I don't recall. Surprise! Then on the following monday, another interview on the California MUFON Radio Show, hosted out of Chicago. When the details are clear, I'll upload them. plutronus
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Post by auntym on Apr 23, 2014 10:55:47 GMT -6
au.ibtimes.com/articles/549105/20140423/mh370-malaysian-airlines.htm#.U1fvp6KmXmhINTERNATIONAL BUSINESS TIMESMH370: Radar Detected UFO Before Jet Goes Missing; Malaysian Air Force Head Reportedly Confirms Sightings By Lou Ramon Aguila | April 23, 2014 The search for the ill-fated Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 continues, but to no avail, mysteries still hover over the disappearance of the jet-passenger along with the 239 people on board. More than a month since it vanished, a new theory has emerged that would surely trigger debates about the existence of unidentified flying objects. Reason.com conducted a poll in the United States and found out that five percent of their respondents believed Flight 370 was abducted by aliens. Several bloggers also indicated a number of UFO sightings around Malaysia before the plane's disappearance. Alexandra Bruce provided vital information on Forbidden Knowledge TV that would back up the alien abduction theory. According to her report, there were two 'distinct anomalies' spotted on the radar (Flight Radar 24) before it went missing. Forbidden Knowledge TV "Seeing the radar playback of the moments leading up to the plane's disappearance, one may forgive Malaysia Airlines for not being more forward, in this case - because the radar playback is not only baffling, it shows two distinct anomalies, as pointed out by Intrepid citizen-reporter and YouTube popstar, DAHBOO7. The radar playback depicts dozens of planes in flight over the region at the time. The first peculiarity is seen in the lower left of the screen. A round object appears in the vicinity of Flight 370 (and amid several others), which the radar does not automatically "read" as airplane. Suddenly, this round object take the form of a "plane" on the radar screen and accelerates at a rate of speed that must be at least five times the speed of the surrounding planes, heading eastward, over the South China Sea - and just as suddenly the object stops and appears to hover in place." UFO blogger also documented a confirmation by Malaysian air force chief Rodzali Daud that military radar received signal from an unidentified flying objects near the location where MH370 reportedly vanished. "Malaysia's air force chief, Rodzali Daud, said military radar detected an UFO in an area in the northern Malacca Strait at 2:15 a.m. local time on Saturday about an hour after the plane vanished from air traffic control screens," UFO blogger reported. Search and recovery operation has been ongoing for more than a month, but the mission hasn't gained a significant breakthrough up to now. To contact the editor, e-mail: editor@ibtimes.com au.ibtimes.com/articles/549105/20140423/mh370-malaysian-airlines.htm#.U1fvp6KmXmh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 14:18:33 GMT -6
I think it's more of a case of very bad maintenance. Another Malaysian plane had to make an emergency landing a few days ago when it blew a tire on take off. I am not one for excusing aliens for anything..but consider the size it would have to be to snag a 777 jumbo jet. I know I know...huge tractor beams..a miniaturization weapon that reduces the size to the size of barbie dolls..and a UFO the size of an airport hanger big enough to hold a jumbo jet. All kinds of possibilities exist. But...the pings picked up were analyzed and were agreed to be the pings of a black box and the batteries were due to run out just when they did. The next step is to drop sonar lines long enough to go deep enough and move through the search grid again with those. However...lets blame it on the aliens...I'm sure they wanted to study a big plane to do some reverse engineering on it. Next UFO you see......well.....is it a plane OR.....
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Post by skywalker on Apr 23, 2014 15:56:31 GMT -6
I'm still leaning towards the first conspiracy theory I had about the CIA grabbing the plane and flying it to a military base on some remote island somewhere. The island of Diego Garcia has been mentioned as a possibility for where the plane could have landed. It was in the direction that they were headed and it was one of the islands in the flight simulator that the pilot owned. So what if the plane did land there, the CIA or the military or whoever did their dirty work and then they just dropped the black box into the ocean. That would keep everybody busy looking in the wrong place while the plane is safely ( ) tucked away where nobody will ever find it. Never underestimate the deviousness of the Feds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 10:44:16 GMT -6
I agree that the Feds could have snagged the plane but for what possible motives? If they need one..they would just commandeer one. I would also be willing to believe the so called Russian newscast about it being in Afghanistan..that is certainly possible too but there are so many spy eyes everywhere that keeping that a secret would be hard. We hear intel chatter all the time that has prevented more than one little catastrophe. What I find hard to believe about that...is that 'they're keeping the passengers in little huts and feeding them little'. Why keep them at all unless you planned on ransoming...and there hasn't been any demand. At this point...if those poor people are still alive...whoever has them would be reviled by everyone. Imagine the reaction by everyone if it were proven that the feds had anything to do with this? That one just doesn't make a bunch of sense to me..I'd sooner believe terrorists or an ocean too deep to find the wreckage. I'd believe any of that sooner than I'd believe the 'alien theory'. To me..that makes the least amount of sense.
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Post by auntym on Apr 24, 2014 14:38:26 GMT -6
i think it's real interesting ufos were spotted in the area where the plane was last heard... because of that i think its possible... i also think its possible the plane flew into another dimension... and of course the possibility of it laying deep in the ocean is also quite real... all of these are possible, i wouldn't rule out any of these reasons ... the paranormal could very well be the reason we have not seen any evidence of a crashed site... in the immortal words of SHERLOCK HOLMES: "once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS TIMES au.ibtimes.com/articles/549105/20140423/mh370-malaysian-airlines.htm#.U1fvp6KmXmh
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Post by skywalker on Apr 24, 2014 20:12:13 GMT -6
It's just a conspiracy theory, Jo. I like to blame the Feds because they make it easy to do so with all of the illegal things they have done in the past. And stealing a plane full of people isn't something they would shy away from if they had a reason to do it. They could have had a perfect opportunity too. We know the pilot was a political radical who was upset that his beloved political leader had been arrested. Maybe the Feds (or whoever) went to him and said, "Hey, Mister Pilot. We might be able to get your beloved political leader back in power if you will just do this one little thing for us..." Maybe he was trying to reach the island but ran out of fuel before he could. Lots of possibilities.
Either way, whether it was hijacked or crashed into the ocean I don't think any of the passengers are alive. There would be no reason to keep them alive unless there were a few that were useful for some reason. The rest would be killed off regardless.
As for what you said about the Feds being reviled by everyone if it was proven they were responsible, I think you underestimate the power of the Feds. They have done things in the past that were a heck of a lot more despicable than hijacking a plane...like the MkUltra experiments, the radiation experiments, the tens of thousands of innocent people who were tortured and murdered in Vietnam, the slaughter of millions of native Americans, the Waco massacre...they always get away with it. If they ever got caught they would just deny it and pretty soon nobody would care.
I still hope they find the black box so we can figure out what happened and put an end to the mystery once and for all. Nothing about this makes any sense. It doesn't seem like a terrorist attack because there's no ransom demands and no wreckage. It doesn't seem like the pilot wanted to splat himself because if he did he wouldn't have flown for six hours in the wrong direction. The plane couldn't have been on autopilot because if it had been it wouldn't have been changing directions the way that it did. It's just weird. There's no logic to it.
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Post by paulette on Apr 24, 2014 22:24:06 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Apr 25, 2014 8:02:16 GMT -6
Another possibility is that the military might have shot it down. If they thought the plane had been hijacked and was on it's way to crash into something important like what happened on 9/11, or if it were flying over a restricted area they might have shot the thing down as a precaution. Or maybe they just didn't want the plane or it's passengers/cargo falling into the wrong hands. Military stealth fighters might account for some of the "UFOs" in the area.
The military could have felt justified in bringing the plane down. If they did though do you think they would come out and admit it?
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Post by auntym on Apr 25, 2014 10:16:04 GMT -6
if that had happened there would have been debris...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 10:31:01 GMT -6
They're checking out some debris that was spotted...one was 73 ft. Not quite long enough to be a wing..but a piece of one maybe. That was spotted yesterday and jets were dispatched.. I hope they find something soon.
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Post by skywalker on Apr 25, 2014 11:35:36 GMT -6
A piece of metal washed up on the beach in austrailia recently also. They still haven't confirmed that it's from the plane yet though.
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Post by auntym on Apr 25, 2014 11:40:45 GMT -6
www.unknowncountry.com/news/weekender-could-chilling-fate-flight-mh370-soon-be-revealed Weekender: Could the Chilling Fate of Flight MH370 Soon Be Revealed?Friday, April 25, 2014 The search for the missing plane, Malaysia flight MH370, goes on, with not a single shred of evidence being uncovered to date. The aircraft went missing on March 8, as it travelled from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Any morsel of new information regarding its whereabouts is being seized upon by the world's media, hungry for any news that might shed light on the plane's incomprehensible disappearance, in the hope of bringing some relief to the hundreds of confused and grieving relatives waiting to learn the fate of the 239 missing passengers. The most recent theory is that the plane crashed into the ocean off the coast of western Australia, but underwater drones have failed to find any trace of the plane in order to substantiate. It has also been determined that floating debris sighted in the same area was not wreckage from the plane. The Australian search coordination center orchestrating the search stated that 95 per cent of a 120-square-mile search area had been scanned without yielding any relevant evidence. The search area is a circle with a 6-mile radius, 2.8 miles deep off the west Australian coast is based around the point where signals consistent with those emitted by airplane black box recorders were heard on April 8th.Exploration of the area is expected to be fully complete within the next few days. So, where should investigators concentrate their efforts now? "If no contacts of interest are made, Bluefin 21 will continue to examine the areas adjacent to the 10-kilometer radius," the Australian center said in a statement."We are currently consulting very closely with our international partners on the best way to continue the search into the future." Outside of the marine crash theory, author John Chuckman proposes that the plane could have been shot down by the United States' airforce and the facts are now being obfuscated. “Could it be that the United States shot down Flight MH370, either accidentally or deliberately, and now wants to keep it secret?” queries Chuckman, writing for OpEdNews. “The possibility of recovery of the full wreckage, even if its location were found, from four miles under the sea amongst underwater mountains is extremely remote at best, so the United States can remain confident that physical evidence will never emerge.” Another popular theory gaining momentum is that the plane may have been landed and is being hidden. This could tie into earlier reports that told of an interrupted distress call made by the plane's pilot shortly before it went missing. “We may have to regroup soon to look into this possibility if no positive results come back in the next few days,” sources within the International Investigation Team told the New Straits Times. “The thought of it landing somewhere else is not impossible, as we have not found a single debris that could be linked to MH370. However, the possibility of a specific country hiding the plane when more than 20 nations are searching for it, seems absurd.” Malaysia Prime Minister Najib Razak revealed that a preliminary report on the investigation is due to be released into the public domain next week, though it is already in the hands of the Department of Civil Aviation.The report is said to contain a recommendation for all commercial aircraft to be tracked; this comes after a key issue in the investigation over whether Flight 370 was tracked by military radar which indicated that it turned back and flew back over Malaysia. "The military radar ... tracked an aircraft, which did turn back, but they were not sure whether it was MH370," Najib told CNN. "What they were sure of was that the aircraft was not deemed to be hostile." Najib said his government was not yet prepared to declare MH370's passengers dead, though did add that it was now "hard to imagine otherwise." "At some point in time I would be, but right now I think I need to take into account the feelings of the next of kin - and some of them have said publicly that they aren't willing to accept it until they find hard evidence." So, what next? Should we be applying more lateral thinking in order to determine what has happened to the missing plane? CONTINUE READING: www.unknowncountry.com/news/weekender-could-chilling-fate-flight-mh370-soon-be-revealed#ixzz2zvAaiGy0
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Post by skywalker on Apr 25, 2014 11:53:55 GMT -6
What's this about an interrupted distress call from the pilot? I've never heard that reported before.
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Post by auntym on Apr 27, 2014 14:07:28 GMT -6
www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/22/359566/missing-plane-mystery-solved/Sunday Apr 27, 2014 Missing plane mystery solved?by Dr. Kevin Barrett Two former high-level insiders may have solved two of the mysteries surrounding the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370: What caused the plane to suddenly fly off-course? And why are all of the governments involved covering up the truth? Had MH 370 crashed in the ocean, it would have left a huge, easily-visible debris field. Countries with satellite surveillance systems, and their partners, know exactly where the plane went. Boeing and its engine-manufacturer Rolls Royce also know, since planes and engines have GPS systems. (You can buy a GPS system for a little over $50 in the US; it would be naive to think a $320 million aircraft doesn’t have one.) Even the INMARSAT satellite “pings” that we have been told can only sweep a broad arc of possible locations could in reality be used to locate the aircraft with some precision, due to the fact that radio transmissions vary in signatures according to time of day, sunspots, and so on. The “hunt for the airliner” peddled to the mainstream media is clearly a charade. So what are all of the major players – both in governments and the aircraft industry – working so hard to hide? Matthias Chang, a barrister who served as Political Secretary to Malaysian Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, explained during an exclusive Truth Jihad Radio interview that only a remote-hijacking fly-by-wire scenario can explain the plane’s disappearance. Chang’s views were confirmed by Gene “Chip” Tatum, a former Special Forces Air Combat Controller and US Army special operations pilot who has carried out ultra-sensitive missions at the direct orders of US Presidents. Chang says the Malaysian government has been given sealed evidence by one or more foreign governments concerning the fate of MH-370. As a condition of receiving that evidence, Malaysia is not allowed to divulge it. Matthias Chang is familiar with the highest levels of power in Malaysia. He presumably has some idea of what is in the sealed evidence. But if he did know, he could not say it directly. Maybe that is why Matthias Chang recently sent an email to MH-370 investigators in the alternative media with a “hint”: “WHAT IF THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MH 370 IS SUCH THAT IF THE TRUTH BE KNOWN AS TO HOW IT HAPPENED IT WOULD NOT ONLY BE A SECURITY ISSUE, IT WOULD ALSO HAVE A GLOBAL IMPACT ON THE WORLD’S ECONOMY. ‘THINGS’ (USED IN A BROAD SENSE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO THINK WHAT ‘THINGS’ THAT) WOULD COME TO A COMPLETE HALT, ALMOST A COMPLETE SHUT DOWN.” What “things” would “come to a complete halt” and badly damage the world economy if the truth about MH-370 were told? Chip Tatum thinks those “things” are commercial airplanes. In our interview Friday night, Tatum suggested that the current generation of airliners’ fly-by-wire systems are extremely vulnerable to catastrophic sabotage, including electronic hijacking. Tatum called the alleged search for the aircraft “a smokescreen... They’re keeping the media busy in the South Indian Ocean while things are being done in other areas. I think the government doesn’t want us to know what they know because they don’t think we can handle the truth.” CONTINUE READING: www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/22/359566/missing-plane-mystery-solved/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 18:36:05 GMT -6
I don't know what to say. I've also heard rumors that the vehicle that Princess Diana was in was also remotely controlled; at the time of her accident.
If this is true, about this plane, then it isn't for practice. Meaning: we have the capabilities to do this, and have done it before.
but I'd love to be wrong. Not long ago I suspected that "we" (humans) had the capability to discover and possibly hinder the fall of huge asteroids on Earth. Not long after that, I came across an article that definitely states "we" can't do that. The point is, Is the "Elite" have gone beyond bragging to the common folk about their awesome technology. We're supposed to be content with our cell phone capabilities.
The question for me is, "why this plane" or this group of people?
In the back of my mind is the disinformation scenario. This new information is designed for us to think that "everything is under control". And I can't help but notice how quickly "Bwsh" family name tied to it, and the references to nineii.
Personally, I do think it has taken too long to "find" this plane. What ever the reasons, it makes me sick. I'm glad people are demanding answers. Even if this happened over the Bermuda Triangle, it is time to get answers.
And I can tell you that personal satellite surveillance has stepped up. Google search your own house. Even if it is an old image, if you pay close attention, some things shown there are also current. Now why would someone mix old and new images? Is it just about money? What is the relevance of a casual picture of a neighborhood?
I better shut up. . . I said I didn't know what to say. . .
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Post by skywalker on Apr 27, 2014 19:06:32 GMT -6
It's only been a month and a half since that plane disappeared. That's really not long at all when you are having to look in the middle of the ocean. There have been other airliners that disappeared over the ocean and in some cases it took years to find them. There are many that were never found at all. The absence of debris is a little unusual but there are possible explanations for that. For instance, if the plane ran out of fuel the pilot might have tried to set it down on the water intact, which has been done before. The eye-witnesses who saw the plane fly over their island said it was only about a thousand feet off the ground. At that shallow of a height and with a low enough airspeed it might be possible to land (land on the water ) without breaking the plane apart. If that had happened it would have slowly sank below the surface. And since the plane would still have a little bit of natural buoyancy because of the air pockets that were in it it could have floated beneath the surface for quite a while. It might still be drifting along somewhere under water but not yet on the bottom. That might explain why they are having trouble locating the black box. I saw a map that showed the locations the ships were in when they picked up the pinging sounds and each time they were in a different spot. There's no telling where that crazy plane might be.
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Post by swamprat on Apr 27, 2014 19:17:09 GMT -6
A "fly-by-wire" remote hijacking would not prevent someone from radioing from the plane for help. If some unknown force took control the crew would be screaming to high heaven!
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Post by skywalker on Apr 27, 2014 19:26:25 GMT -6
Hey Swamp, do you know anything about that distress call the pilot supposedly started sending but was cut off? That article auntym posted a while ago is the only place I've read about it. Everybody else was saying that the pilots never said a word.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 23:29:03 GMT -6
From two 'former' high ranking officials...I'm not sure I'd buy that one. I haven't heard from any credible source that there was an interrupted distress call. The link below is to many articles stating there was no distress call. Of course people could be lying but why the need to see something more mysterious than a crashed plane is beyond me me...and these suggestions about UFO's and worm holes and sinister terrorist plots have to be just crucifying for the families. This will continue until the next unsolved mystery comes along...sadly for those people Losing their loved ones is horrible enough without thinking the aliens are chopping them up in some alien autopsy room. search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=malaysian+mh370+interrupted+distress+call
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Post by skywalker on Apr 27, 2014 23:53:16 GMT -6
That's what I thought. I couldn't find any mention of any distress call anywhere. Since nobody has any answers people are just making stuff up.
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Post by swamprat on Apr 28, 2014 6:33:44 GMT -6
Yeah, I haven't heard anything about an attempted distress call.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 8:02:01 GMT -6
. . . Airbus A330 that crashed without a distress call in the ocean beyond radar coverage north of Brazil in 2009........ But mechanical and flight flaws in that aircraft were automatically transmitted to Air France before it went down in a heavy thunderstorm to provide clues to the crash.. . . . It took another two years before a full investigation and recovery of black-box flight data determined definitely that electrical problems, an autopilot that disconnected and misjudgments contributed to the tragedy. ~ No one yet has any details of any problems aboard the Malaysia flight, and won't now unless or until the plane and its flight data and voice cockpit recorders are recovered. . search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=crmas&p=malaysian+mh370+interrupted+distress+call[/quote]They knew Airbus A330 had crashed. It took 2 yrs. to get a full investigation. _______________________________________ I'm not saying that any of these (weird) scenarios are true. And I agree that all the 'speculation' is not geared toward survivors or their families.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 8:13:03 GMT -6
No one yet has any details of any problems aboard the Malaysia flight, and won't now unless or until the plane and its flight data and voice cockpit recorders are recovered. . Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4544/missing-plane-radio-contact-debris?page=4&scrollTo=52364#ixzz30Bp7KZSX_____________________________________________________________________________________ Huh? Backpeddaling here? Or someone finally taking the "sensible approach"? Watch the wording, IMO. Aboard the flight. . . We know there's a problem. The media is telling us that an entire plane full of people can't be found. Oh yeah, I'm sure if I google current missing flights I'll be astounded.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 10:10:21 GMT -6
Nods at Sky...I guess the current world news about Russia and the Ukraine or the Korean homicidal nut case with bombs...isn't exciting enough...so lets make stuff up about the plane...shaking my head. In my humble opinion...it's one thing to discuss something within the parameters given and it's always fun to discuss and swap ideas...but when you need to start making stuff up..it's pretty pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 13:22:37 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Apr 29, 2014 18:10:16 GMT -6
Interesting...but if that's the missing plane why would they be picking up pings in another part of the planet?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 19:42:04 GMT -6
GeoResonance notes on its website that the company has "successfully applied [its] technology to locate submersed structures, ships and aircraft." Read more: www.businessinsider.com/georesonance-says-it-found-the-missing-malaysia-plane-2014-4#ixzz30KTB8KWG_______________________________________________________________________________________________________ This is what I know. Somebody should have located that plane by now. Thank You, Jo. I really thought, that with all the people and technology involved, those families (and us) would know what had happened within a few short weeks of the take-off, even if it took time to investigate the "whys".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 19:54:34 GMT -6
I don't know Sky. I don't think sound carries THAT far under water. What bugs me is that the geological team has been trying to get someone to listen and no one would until they brought it to the media. Considering the sophisticated equipment they have..it sure sounds like some one would have listened. shrug MARCH 31. If that IS the wreckage, can you spell BIG BIG lawsuits. Well there will be law suits but if no one responded from March...and that is the plane ...dammmm ...that's lousy. news.yahoo.com/malaysia-assessing-possible-plane-wreckage-claim-150302716.html
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Post by skywalker on Apr 30, 2014 17:23:59 GMT -6
Even if it isn't the missing Malaysian plane they should still be checking it out. There are a lot of other planes that have gone missing over the years...and they still don't know for sure where this one is. They should be exhausting every possibility until they figure it out.
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