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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 8:32:40 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Apr 28, 2014 9:10:38 GMT -6
Ancient drugs like yage or peyote are no different then their modern counterparts, although maybe less concentrated and therefor slightly less dangerous...but still dangerous. How many people die every year from taking heroin or cocaine? Or even from drinking alcohol?
People can die from a lot of different things though and there's no shortage of deadly stuff in South America. His death might not even be related to the drug.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 10:18:02 GMT -6
Nods at Sky...when it's your time...you're not going to out run it The indians used Peyote for their visions...we'll never know how many of them had bad trips or perished but I'm guessing not many. The modern drugs in all of their chemical glory...are terrifying to me. A friend of my daughter's (now clean thank heavens) was 'ever so fond' of Aderol. I mean today's kids..know and understand the pharmaceutical industry as we never did or would..it's sad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 12:45:41 GMT -6
. . . His death might not even be related to the drug.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 12:47:00 GMT -6
Nods at Sky...when it's your time...you're not going to out run it . . .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 12:56:12 GMT -6
~laughs~ I was tempted to put both the above quotes on the thread about the missing airplane, . The other (than these) comments on here are great. But at the risk of ticking you off, and showing my awful sensitivities, why is an individual death so, um, matter-of -fact? my goodness! His parents seemed to know exactly what their son was doing, and a bunch of people supposedly were doing the same thing!? You guys of course eluded to this part being relatively normal. . . a young kid laying on the road. I want to scream "HOAX" but I'll never know. There won't be anymore "news" about this . . . .
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Post by skywalker on Apr 30, 2014 17:50:00 GMT -6
The dude was in Colombia which is the drug capitol of the planet. Not just drugs like yage or peyote or marijuana but the serious stuff that people get arrested and killed over. The Colombian "government"...half of which is controlled by the drug lords, has been fighting a war with itself for decades trying to get the situation under control. The US military has been routinely waging an unacknowledged war down there also. The country is a huge mess. For a person to die and be left by the side of the road down there is not at all uncommon. It probably happens a dozen times a day. It just doesn't normally get reported. I'm assuming the only reason this one was reported is because it was unusual...partly because he died while partaking of yage which is not normally a lethal drug (I think the article said that only two people have died from it in the past twenty years) and partly it's unusual because he wasn't murdered. At least not that we know of.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 12:20:01 GMT -6
Thanks for responding, Sky. I thought it was pretty unusual that this was reported also. And the picture. I heard somewhere, that 'Nata~lie~ Hollowatever's body has never been found (the girl who disappeared down there with classmates while partying). And I heard something about a couple jet skiing down there (like they have for years) and having an altercation. Then comes to mind Paulette's stories of spelunking down there. It gets really creepy. Including the town where many,many citizens have just disappeared? Beautiful (but not cared for everywhere) land that people want to escape, and we desire to vacation at. ?? Paulette has made casual comments about none of us on TEOR being particularly rich - and I think that's a good thing (as long as I never have to eat canned stew again ). I do have some "rich" relatives, and sometimes I get a 'glimpse' of that wealth, but if I ever get invited down to Cabo# I'll have to say no.
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Post by skywalker on May 7, 2014 21:13:07 GMT -6
I've been to Mexico may times. I've been to South America also. It's possible to go down there 99 times and not have the slightest problem at all then get robbed and raped and murdered by 50 people on the 100th time. I don't think that most people have the slightest idea how dangerous other parts of the world can be. The potential is always there even if you can't see it on the outside. And if something happens in the jungles of Colombia you can't just pick up the phone and dial 911 and expect somebody to come to the rescue. People who go to foreign countries need to understand what they are getting into. And that unfortunately is starting to apply to some of our own cities here in the US too. Detroit right now is almost as dangerous as any country south of the border. The place looks like a war zone.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 18:55:37 GMT -6
Some of our own cities look like a Bosnian war zones for sure (agrees with Sky). Parts of Jersey and many others. Poverty...breeds a ton of malcontent. Upper class exist in gated safety...while across the railroad tracks...
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