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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 21:04:20 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 11:13:05 GMT -6
So sad that there are hundreds of these cases around the country. Out of the blue..some hiker will find bones and maybe one in a hundred will have some closure. There are lots of monsters in our world that have their roots right here on planet earth. Serial killers that defy any kind of understanding...because we cannot take the trip their brains do. Maybe someday a cure for all mental aberrations. I hope.
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Post by sunbow on May 5, 2014 19:26:56 GMT -6
There was a speaker who was a chief investigator for MUFON PA who did a conference program on missing persons. He was a detective in missing persons until he retired. He does not believe that all missing persons are from human activity. He stated that if you run the numbers, something does not add up. I know that I could not get good numbers from the internet after hearing the talk, the data was very inconsistent. Here is a site about wilderness missing cases. They also suspect that all cases are not explained by conventional theories. Unfortunatly they do not have digital books and I have stopped buying paper books. Can Am Missing
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Post by sunbow on May 5, 2014 20:19:38 GMT -6
Here is a video I just watched:
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 23:48:46 GMT -6
As many possibilities as a person can think of I guess. Holes in time, mini wormholes that suck up things and children, abductions but that doesn't make much sense to me..they usually just spend some quality time with their chosen then do a catch and release..why keep problematic children? I am positive there are doorways on this planet ...thin veils between dimensions..maybe they simply fall through or are snagged by dimensional beings. There are some horrible possibilities in that thought too. I really don't think I want to understand that better All that I know...is that if alive, somewhere is a terrified child or many more such. In human hands or other.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 9:20:55 GMT -6
There was a speaker who was a chief investigator for MUFON PA who did a conference program on missing persons. He was a detective in missing persons until he retired. He does not believe that all missing persons are from human activity. He stated that if you run the numbers, something does not add up. I know that I could not get good numbers from the internet after hearing the talk, the data was very inconsistent. Here is a site about wilderness missing cases. They also suspect that all cases are not explained by conventional theories. Unfortunatly they do not have digital books and I have stopped buying paper books. Can Am MissingThank You Sunbow. There is quite a bit of information at this site, without having to purchase the book.
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Post by sunbow on May 10, 2014 6:17:22 GMT -6
While there are dark possibilities, there are also some bright ones. While this is a troubling subject, it is possible that a few percent relate to ET activity. I have contemplated 'Why or What would they have with troubled children and bums that they would not return?' One possibility is that they are populating a new world (a new heavens view and new earth) with humans. Many indigenous people state plainly that the Gods brought them to this world. It is possible that the collapse of the ice age 12000 was an extinction level event for humans and they returned humans from another world where they added our species. We may be in another extinction level event and they might need to do the same after the chaos and teh Earth re-stabilized the biosphere. Troubled people might just find a good life on a pre-technological tribal human settlement world. Just one of countless possibilities (of course), but one that is not dark.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 20:12:21 GMT -6
I would like to think of a positive aspect also. When you look at stories like the one on "Granger Taylor", I smile, and want to hope this guy is out there somewhere, . But then there's this: 11/17-Missing Eufala Family Possibly Found:http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/state/remains-found-near-site-of-2009-search-for-missing-jamison-family-from-Eufaula This family left everything inside their vehicle, including their dog, and a lot of money. They had been seeing things around their home, and though they talked about "demons" to their pastor, what if? What if they went to look at this new property, and "something" calmed them, and told them to leave their things, and take a ride in a spaceship? Why did their "bones" have to be found years later? Because of the money left, I tend to doubt human criminal activity. And the little boy, jaryd atadero? Missing for 4 yrs, and the shoes of his they eventually find, have obviously not been exposed to anything, use or whatever, for those 4 yrs. I guess a serial killer keeps momentos, but even the way the remains were found. . . . creepy.
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Post by sunbow on May 12, 2014 17:23:14 GMT -6
Missing Eufala Family Possibly Found: This bothers me because there is no follow up. DNA tests should have confirmed or negated the connection. Like you, because the cash was with them, I doubt that someone forced them out of the pickup. Human killers are greedy, unless they are very well paid already. No new news in six months implies to me there is something else we are not being told.
The web stories are saying that jaryd atadero's clothes were found and indicate a Mountain Lion got him. If he was running about, it is very possible a mountain lion would attack him and drag him off. But then why were his shoes not aged and damaged. I agree with CamAm - this is a cover up. But of what? Anyone can come up with a tooth and claim it didn't get valid DNA evidence. They obviously had teh shoes from day one and put them back on teh mountain to be found.
Something is still wrong in the missing persons data. I know there are sociopaths amoung humans, but there seems to be a bit more than that in some cases. Troubling.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 12:49:32 GMT -6
And that other family, featured on '?People mag' in the last year (I don't recall their names). They supposedly left a lot more money, and were videotaped crossing into Mexico. Then their bones were found in the desert. I see your point, Sunbow, of a hired "hit". But that's another creepy aspect. Someone with a lot of money and resources doing this sort of thing, and able to do it shrouded in such mystery. ? A family secluded from other family members, so no need to kill a brother that might know something? Honestly, I'm wondering if this is just an occasional event coming to light? The PTB definitely felt the need to hide details of 'human mutilations'. So many reasons to not be "alone". Our enemy picking us off, one by one, sometimes causing an opportunity to happen, or just waiting. If face-to-face war had any redeeming qualities, well, at least you would have an idea of who your attacker was.
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Post by sunbow on May 13, 2014 15:23:27 GMT -6
The other side of this is 'Organ Theft'. Big, big dollars. There are rich people who would have no qualms about getting a fresh organ (for themselves or their child, spouse,...) and then do away with the host, or mute them for a cover story. I am convinced that a lot of organ theft occurs and there must be a huge cover up to keep this darkness out of public perception. It must be a huge syndicate. I don't doubt that once they have the medical records for a match, they can blackmail and lure the people out to some remote place. At that point they take what they want and hide the remains. If the case draws attention, they dump pieces or clues as cover up. Sinister!
Somehow blaming things on the aliens offers two good side effects. 1.) Cover up for dark human activity. 2.) Makes the aliens look really bad, in case the aliens ever show up and want to distribute wealth fairly. False Flag - see the evil aliens, don't listen to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 17:39:51 GMT -6
oh wow. I appreciate your thoughts on this, Sunbow. The organ connection had not entered my mind, and it also makes sense as a possibility.
There are people out there who won't believe that scenario at all. I can remember just a few years ago people being in denial about the "current slave trade".
I don't want to believe it.
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Post by sunbow on May 14, 2014 7:17:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't want to believe it either. Sadly such things as the human slave trade are very real and more pervasive than we can imagine. Since we are descent people, such behaviour would never occur to us. That is another aspect of darkness which could account for missing people.
I just read a theory where there are two types of people on Earth, those connected and loving and those disconnected and ruthless. Hopefully this selfish ruthless self-serving meme is not a genetic flaw in some percentage our population and everyone can one day wake up to being loving beings.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 11:45:25 GMT -6
Well, I don't believe that "theory" at all. You and I have been talking about organ stealers. Its a great example of how someone can be loving and connected to their own family, but ruthless to a "stranger". I think the genetic part comes into play on the realization of what is mistreatment of others, for one's own good. Even if you tell this type of person, or punish them for their selfishness, they have to make a conscious decision to do something different, even if they don't agree with the reason why they should act different.. Hopefully, they do this "different thing", contrary to their nature, enough that eventually their feelings catch up to these positive actions. We can always hope.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 7:45:17 GMT -6
Sunbow, can you point me to where you read that theory? Thanks .
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Post by sunbow on Jun 10, 2014 17:44:32 GMT -6
In the book, "Facing the Shadow, Embracing the Light" by Niara Terela Here is her blog facingtheshadowembracingthelight.com/The beginning is Dark: MILAB and Conspiracies, then it takes you on her healing journey. Perhaps a bit New Age, but mostly I agree. I have a little bit to read. I got sidetracked with the MUFON Ohio Rendlesham and Roswell conference and checking out those speakers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 9:31:32 GMT -6
Thank You.
I wish it was that easy to differeniate between the types of people. I suppose one could look at motives. . . .such as selfishness
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 9:36:34 GMT -6
Also, I came across another "missing person" site. The "charley project" ?
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Post by sunbow on Jun 11, 2014 10:47:38 GMT -6
Hard to read the pages on The Charlie Project with that bad background image. Hard to sort by specifics. Still a good resource if you have a name. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:19:24 GMT -6
"Father Francis X. Clooney S.J., of Boston College and Harvard Divinity School noted that, "First, mere recriminations against the religion of another are just about never acceptable or useful. ...Second, if one is a professional exorcist, one may indeed see everything in light of that profession, and so it is not surprising that Fr. Amorth sees the devil at work everywhere; perhaps it is his default explanation of the woes that afflict us."[17]" from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Amorth____________________________________________________________ Is this Priest, Father Francis X. Clooney S. whatever, pooh-poohing the idea that some of the worlds "woes" are due to the devil? He's a priest, does he want to just call it human nature?? I think that any of us can say that we can (and have been) disillusioned by the "church" (not just catholic church, mind you). This man, appears (I don't want to gossip, slander, or libel) to be a teacher or professor at two prominent schools in the studies of religious persons. in this same Wiki article, Father Amorth talks about the lack of faith, and subsequent turn to superstitions, etc. etc.. Have any of you observed this to be true? I now have to face that "missing persons" has a lot more to it, than I ever knew. , .
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