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Post by auntym on Sept 10, 2014 13:38:03 GMT -6
nautil.us/issue/17/big-bangs/can-you-ever-really-know-an-extraterrestrial Can You Ever Really Know an Extraterrestrial? Knowledge about aliens might be as dangerous as the aliens themselves.By Caleb Scharf September 4, 2014 Imagine that you’ve lived your entire life in a small village deep within a continental wilderness. For centuries this community has been isolated from the rest of the world. One day you go out exploring, skirting the edges of known territory. Suddenly, and against all expectations, you stumble across a signpost embedded in the ground. The script is highly unusual, foreign, but the text is clear enough. It says, simply, “We Are Here.”
The question is: What happens next?There might be happiness and celebration to mark the end of isolation, or the news might be met with a shrug. But human nature suggests it’s more probable that this discovery triggers a chain of events that lead to utter disaster. Suddenly your safe haven is threatened by an unknown “them.” Your time-tested principles of governance and social order are put under pressure. Gossip, rumor, and conjecture will gnaw away at your stable home. Barricades and armed forces will be raised at enormous cost, crops and repairs will be forgotten. A community will lurch toward its own collapse. Yet there is little more than a half-realized idea represented by this impersonal signpost, a whispered implication that infects the world with its ambiguity. This tale is not the opening sequence of a B-grade movie, but an allegorical version of what might, just possibly, happen after we solve one of the oldest scientific and philosophical puzzles—whether or not we have neighbors “out there” in the wilderness of the cosmos. Today, the prospects for finding evidence of life beyond the Earth fall into three well-known categories. First is our exploration of the solar system. Mars is arguably the prime target because it offers a planetary template that, while alien, best parallels certain terrestrial environments—and it is directly accessible. At this very moment we have robotic wheels on Martian regolith and sharp eyes in orbit. More Mars missions are lining up: NASA’s MAVEN should be entering orbit as you read this, as should India’s Mangalyaan craft. And plans are afoot for the InSight seismological probe, Europe’s ExoMars, a Mars 2020 rover, a sample return, as well as the ever-present speculations for sending a human contingent. But Mars is not the only fruit. The icy moons Enceladus and Europa both exhibit hallmarks of subsurface liquid water. In the case of Europa, a dark ocean with twice the volume of all Earth’s surface oceans conceivably exists in contact with a rocky core—with potential for a deep hydrothermal oasis. Recently discovered geyser-like eruptions into space from both offer hope of a sampling mission to look for signs of life. In the second category, vastly farther beyond, lie the exoplanets. We now know this population to be enormous—tens of billions of terrestrial-scaled planets ranging from geophysical youth to old age. Some of these worlds could be passable Earth-analogs. The chase is on to measure the atmospheric chemical composition of at least a few of the nearest such worlds, looking for the fingerprints of a biosphere. NASA’s 2018 James Webb Space Telescope and the next-generation of 30-meter diameter Earth-bound astronomical observatories possess the capabilities to make crude measurements of such components. Third, there is the ongoing search for extraterrestrial intelligence, or SETI. Scouring the celestial radio and optical spectrum for structured, artificial signals—this is the highest-risk, highest-reward effort of all. Success would not only mean that life exists somewhere else, but that there is recognizable technological intelligence other than ours in the universe. As an information-obsessed, intensely social species, we’re particularly vulnerable to memes. And not all memes are innocuous. But the knowledge being sought from all these efforts could change far more than just our scientific understanding. Like a sign in the wilderness, the potential exists for new information to infect our collective consciousness before we’ve realized what’s happening. It is capable of seeding our minds with ideas that take on their own form of life as competitive agents that question the status quo, seeping into our thoughts and behaviors. In fact we already have a label for these types of self-propagating, evolving packets of information—we call them memes. In 1976, writing in his book The Selfish Gene, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins proposed the term meme to describe something that spreads within a culture; whether it’s a catchy phrase, chairs with four legs, a style of clothing, or an entire belief system. In this sense a meme is a mutating, replicating piece of human cultural evolution—a viral entity. As an information-obsessed, intensely social species, we’re particularly vulnerable to memes. And not all memes are innocuous—some become toxic when they meet other established memes. Witness the clash between Western mores and conservative Islam. What if we discovered that we are surrounded by chemically incompatible aliens, and learned that all that we thought was inevitable and optimal about our biology and evolution is merely a fluke? Such a discovery runs counter to our Copernican ideals and upends any tidy rationalization of the deep connections between life and the fundamental constituents of the cosmos. Or what if we detected an extraterrestrial signal along the lines of “You Are All Going To Die?” Even if this was a translation error, or a misinterpretation of an alien effort at existential camaraderie, our species could be quickly sent into a tailspin, potentially wrecking our civilization as effectively as any physical weapon. CONTINUE READING: nautil.us/issue/17/big-bangs/can-you-ever-really-know-an-extraterrestrial
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 0:45:01 GMT -6
I wonder if people just stand around wondering 'what-if's' to the exclusion of actually living their lives? There are myriad and countless ways of viewing one single thing..if you're worried about them all..may as well hide under a rock. The answer is really a simple one. We don't ever REALLY know one another (or as Sky mentioned...ourselves) so how in the devil would we ever really know something that is completely alien to our ways of thinking? The other day (in the nick of time) someone noticed an asteroid was within spitting distance of earth on it's way by. Sunspots blast through space headed in our direction. Yellowstone considers blowing it's gourd. The big one is always about to hit California. And they're worried about understanding ET??
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Post by paulette on Sept 12, 2014 10:10:12 GMT -6
I think thinking about aliens etc. gives us something to worry/think about to avoid thinking about the asteroids, solar flares, Yellowstone and the San Andreas. Which also give us something to worry/think about that is not as immediate as twitchy fingers on nuclear firing buttons in the areas of the world that are mad as Hell and getting madder. About fundamentalism that is sweeping across the Middle East, Africa and even the USA. About unchecked Ebola...
Jokelly I think your suggestions here to focus on the now are right on. But focusing on the could be's actually provides a bit of diversion and also permission not to take action in the now. I am as guilty of that as anyone. However not-thinking-about things is necessary every day. We are overwhelmed and overrun with things to think about. I get myseslf out on mental ledges and the less-than-helpful voices in my mind are sometimes yelling JUMP! QUIT YOUR JOB? DRIVE AWAY FROM YOUR MARRIAGE!!! And then I go pick blackberries (although they are done now and I'll have to switch to some other stop-the-world activity. Grinding rocks maybe.)
Thanks for your reminders to stay grounded.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 10:40:12 GMT -6
And thanks for yours that too much grounding is pretty darn boring
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 12:43:22 GMT -6
from the article "But these behaviors are terribly dangerous for us if they prompt a response from our cosmic neighbors, as well as for any intelligent natives of these other worlds. Shooting memes back and forth across the void is asking for trouble." I absolutely loved both of your responses to this article, Jo and Paulette. No sarcasm These type of intelligent, conscientious dialog is why I continuously find myself on TEOR (ET or no ET). I picked the above statement from the article, because I believe we could say the "same" about shooting messages across the internet void, or even leaving messages on someones' voicemail/answering machine. LOL. Gosh, if we don't step up (in person) and ask someone what they just said, or if I heard them right, or what they meant by what they said, AND that's with them not being offended you asked or in a hurry, . . . . sigh. Right on with the 'what ifs', my friend. On any other day we can call it "fear mongering" or "a way of instilling doubt/confusion". And about the not=so-helpful-thoughts? Another reason why telepathy as a race is probably not going to happen any time soon. Either one of you could talk about, or write an article much like this one, and don't have to be some professor from Columbia college.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 0:54:48 GMT -6
There is something that does keep us coming here. A balance of some sort I reckon. Sometimes it's a nudge to be brave, keep the chin up..sometimes just a feeling of others understanding the things that make us tick, and that in itself is a rare gift when we don't always know exactly what makes us tick A place to vent..a place to find something to fill a void after a particularly trying time. We, each and every one, have those 'clunks' in our lives that test us, bend and twist us and in the process makes small alterations in us. Can anyone look back and feel they're as they were a year ago? Hope not or those 'clunks' were a total waste LOL. Maybe it's the same thing..same reason 'they' were drawn. I just can't quite find it anywhere else. Is what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 5:31:42 GMT -6
There is something that does keep us coming here. A balance of some sort I reckon. Sometimes it's a nudge to be brave, keep the chin up..sometimes just a feeling of others understanding the things that make us tick, and that in itself is a rare gift when we don't always know exactly what makes us tick A place to vent..a place to find something to fill a void after a particularly trying time. We, each and every one, have those 'clunks' in our lives that test us, bend and twist us and in the process makes small alterations in us. Can anyone look back and feel they're as they were a year ago? Hope not or those 'clunks' were a total waste LOL. Maybe it's the same thing..same reason 'they' were drawn. I just can't quite find it anywhere else. Is what it is. And We are Blessed. Thank You
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2014 4:03:50 GMT -6
I think this article is over anticipating. We are living now in amazing scientific times, and the question of ET contact has been much on our minds more or less by the thoughtful in our society in recent decades. The article does not even consider a fourth possibility. Perhaps some of these UFO reports (the really significant ones....Rendalsham, Belgium triangles) are demonstrating an ET presence already here? As we discover more and more exo-planets...which now seem to abound.....many with Earth like features (to the best of our technology can determine at the present time) this article seems more like a anxiety attack before humanity's first big date. Remember how we may have felt as teens? How introspective we may have been and how we may come across to others? Wearing the right clothes? (LOL). This article seems to be asking between the lines the same questions about ourselves in a broader sense. I think until it actually happens (ie: a contact that humanity seems to universally accept as genuine), I think humanity will not know what to do until it experiences it. Continuing the analogy of a 'first date'....what will the date be like, how will the parties get along, how will this first date end? Can you remember what went through your minds way back when? What to say, or do, what not to say or do? What was cool and not cool? Will humanity also have a 'date meme'?..lol. The whole original post reminds me too how I still reflect whether these 'Han' accounts are real of not. Some evidence seems to suggest they are. In any alien contact, would these experiences of mine count? In my personal life, I take these sessions and books seriously, and reflect on what is brought out to our astonishment. But I do not think about it much everyday. I still have my life to live too. In August 2014 Mary and I have now given a talk and demonstration in Marin County, at Astronaut Edgar Mitchael's 'Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_SciencesThere were some very smart people there watching and asking questions of Han, Zestra, and Gen...while in hypnosis, Han was lucidly answering their questions. If that is a form of actual ET contact....then is the anxiety I sense from the article over don, and actual contact anti-climatic? Next Wednesday I even have to appear with Mary to be interviewed for a film documentary. I would be happy to discuss about the experience I had at IONS demonstrating (or introducing) Han and the others. They were very impressed. Could it be, like a first date, or my experiences, ....not to mention the experiences of many others here...many quite different from mine.....reading the article..are we getting too ahead of ourselves? Steve
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Post by paulette on Sept 14, 2014 12:16:20 GMT -6
I am fascinated with your experiences and interested that you are still bringing Han et al forward - and to a room-full of scientists no less. Please post links and tell us all about everything!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 20:14:52 GMT -6
I'm sure that all who channel..have those feelings and have to take them on faith. Maybe we all have a bit of an alien curled up inside waiting for a hypnotherapist..who knows. I never have had doubt that you are channeling someone..something..either a trickster or a wayfaring Han 'solo' from afar. That they know about the Grey's doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. As for getting ahead of ourselves? I don't think that's possible. To listen weigh and measure and use our own senses to find truth or lie. When there ARE no experts..no givens..just people who have encountered mostly what they never wanted to. We're all investigators when it comes down to it...trying to piece together a knotty puzzle. We are in it together, sky's not the limit.
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Post by Steve on Sept 15, 2014 11:48:59 GMT -6
I'm sure that all who channel..have those feelings and have to take them on faith. Maybe we all have a bit of an alien curled up inside waiting for a hypnotherapist..who knows. I never have had doubt that you are channeling someone..something..either a trickster or a wayfaring Han 'solo' from afar. That they know about the Grey's doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. As for getting ahead of ourselves? I don't think that's possible. To listen weigh and measure and use our own senses to find truth or lie. When there ARE no experts..no givens..just people who have encountered mostly what they never wanted to. We're all investigators when it comes down to it...trying to piece together a knotty puzzle. We are in it together, sky's not the limit. Exactly my point Jokelly. We will have to toss per-conceived notions over our shoulders and face it as it comes...."To listen weigh and measure and use our own senses to find truth or lie." I am learning that most in the UFO community have already prejudged based on many things about ET's in the UFO 'culture'. Why?...because most read it in a book somewhere or some speaker said so. Where did they get their information too? Probably from a web site like this one. Few have experienced like you have. Will the real deal ET's be rejected if they don't match the so called experts pre-conscieved ideas they have already formed? Having served in MUFON, using them as one easy example....they are so full of per-conscieved ideas, would they recognize the genuine article? As stupid as it sounds...I can see enough that it could actually happen. Mufon still lives in 1969. Mufon, since they never have done any case analysis of even their own archives....they may already have the answers. Having discussed these sessions with several therapists, IONS for one, you are incorrect to assume this is 'channeling'. I was informed channeling is related to 'spirits and the afterlife. These communications, with Han .....and importantly with others have also had the same communications too also confirm is with 'something' out there that seems to be just as mortal as we are. I have asked openly the same questions, like could this all come from my sub-conscious? I just read about a man in a coma in Australia that awoke and could suddenly speak perfect Mandarin Chinese! So what is the human mind really capable of? I don't know yet myself! But whatever it is, 'Han' comes through others too, and the answers make sense & often are way far beyond me. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 12:26:15 GMT -6
Steve: I always considered that if you were speaking for another..using yourself as that entity's 'medium' it was channeling but I think it normally IS connected to spirits, angels or God or demons but then how many aliens are speaking up through someone else? I believe that there is no limit to what the human mind may be capable of..if we just knew which buttons to push. You found a right 'button' and I think you have more factors in your favor than others might. You are open minded and not afraid to allow the access. I suspect that most people..really don't want to know the extent of what's 'out there'..their lives already being full of more 'grounded' tasks..kids..soccer..and all of the other pursuits that would bore many of us to tears. Makes monsters in the closet a big closer step to reality they have no wish to face. A lot of people here do live with monsters in their closets..but once the door is open..dang they don't want to crawl back in so you can slam it shut LOL. That being said..I'm starting to guess that those here who have association with or have encountered 'beings' might find a similar connection to yours. You have a familiarity because of your investigations..have accepted it. I think Sky would be a very strong subject..not much puts him off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 21:59:16 GMT -6
I'm sure that all who channel..have those feelings and have to take them on faith. Maybe we all have a bit of an alien curled up inside waiting for a hypnotherapist..who knows. I never have had doubt that you are channeling someone..something..either a trickster or a wayfaring Han 'solo' from afar. That they know about the Grey's doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. As for getting ahead of ourselves? I don't think that's possible. To listen weigh and measure and use our own senses to find truth or lie. When there ARE no experts..no givens..just people who have encountered mostly what they never wanted to. We're all investigators when it comes down to it...trying to piece together a knotty puzzle. We are in it together, sky's not the limit. . . . . We will have to toss per-conceived notions over our shoulders and face it as it comes...."To listen weigh and measure and use our own senses to find truth or lie." ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ . . . . But whatever it is, 'Han' comes through others too, . . . Steve The first quote here, IMO, is the only way to live, in peace and harmony with every one and every thing. But it takes a conscious effort; which kind of goes against "taking things as they come" . We can always hope that when one keeps concentrating on allowing choices of thought and behavior, that even a "liar" is allowed the liberty to "lie". Someone like Han, that has lived longer and seen more, yet can speak in such a casual or common manner, must have reached this point, and that is why he seems so indifferent when he talks about, say, the greys. His species voicing concern about them, and possibly stopping some of the things they do, is just the way things are. I'm not going to go so far as claiming a balance. But I am confident that Han is under the same "scrutiny". The second quote gives me comfort . I'm sure there's "fun" in what you are doing, and showing others, but as you said, you still have to live your life. I imagine that there are some people interested in another "Sleeping Prophet" (Cayce), even though you sense this is quite different. For everything there is a season~
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Post by Steve on Sept 17, 2014 3:18:25 GMT -6
Tomorrow (really today)...going to be interviewed for a small documentary about all this. Here are some of the questions and answers being related for tomorrow on camera. Note that Han is not being interviewed...(lol)...but Mary and I will be on camera yp relate the answers given in the book.
My prayers go out to dear little amy. Hang in their and the same for the parents..~lorelei~.and Dad......warm hugs.
Steve
INTERVIEW WITH REUBEN LANGDON September 17, 2014 With Mary Barr and Steve Reichmuth
Where do you come from? What part of the Galaxy?
The Reticulum galaxy
Would you describe your physical appearance?
Average of four to five feet high, various shades of gray-tan. Some of our species have four fingers. We no longer appear as male and female.
How many fingers does your type have?
Generally, three. It may vary.
Are you familiar with the 6 fingered beings? Don't know. (remove question)
How many different grey or zeta reticula species exist?
Han's species has spread across many planets. They are considered one species. The "grays" are composed of many different species. Han compares his species as being more advanced than the Nordics, especially in terms of humility. Humans are below the Nordics in development. There are countless blended species. This is the norm in the universe. The Zetans have a good relationship with the Pleiadians and beings from Kepler 22B. They have a vast trade network across many worlds.
Do you work with other ET races in regard to matters here on earth?
There are different agendas for different species. Many species visit. Only a very few are regularly on planet earth. We have our own agenda. At times, we intervene in the work of the Verdants and their hybrid attempts. If necessary, we can quickly form a friendly coalition with other species.
Which races do you work with closely?
The Zetans have a friendly exchange with many, many blended species. There are sentient beings everywhere.
I've heard that there were about five or so ET races that were in charge of creating the human genome. Are the Zetans one of the creator ETs? Do we Carry zeta DNA?
There were some higher order beings who spread the "humanoid" shape seed across the Universe. We consider ourselves to be distant relatives to human beings. Perhaps our ancestors contributed to this. More likely, it was a more advanced form.
How about other energies or entities? Archangels, other Dimensional beings? Do you work with these energies/frequencies?
There are many higher order beings, including those you call archangels. There is Michael and other beings that are addressed as angels. They are a combination of things. They are Biblical legends and advanced spiritual beings, separate from us, at the same time. Their presence is very real in the Universe. They are a very benign and loving presence and one that is very powerful. We expect this. We interact with them.
Was it your race that was involved in the Roswell crash?
Yes. It was agreed that Zetan bio-technical beings (helpers) would be sacrificed in order to learn more about the human species in how they would react to our presence.
Are you familiar with the term "disclosure?" Do you see this happening to planet Earth in the near future?
Disclosure has occurred many times. We are not a secret. We prefer to work with individuals or small groups. Large governments have their own agendas for not wanting to share the knowledge of our presence.
Which race of beings will be the first to make public contact or disclosure? Was it the Zetans?
Many beings have made contact over the many thousands of earth years. It is difficult to determine who was first.
Are you Familiar with the famous Rendalsham forest/Bentwaters UFO case in 1980 England? Was this a Zetan craft? Sargent Penaston wrote down a bunch of symbols, could you explain what they mean? (Show copy of symbols) he also received a "download" of binary code ones and zeros. Can you comment on this? Finally he has and his colleagues have been sick from radiation, which they claimed to have been exposed to by the craft. Did the radiation in fact come from the ED craft? Ask this instead:
Did an alien presence intrude into a secured nuclear weapons area at the Royal Air Force Base at Woodbridge/Bentwaters in December 1980? If so, why? The human understanding of that event is correct. These intrusions are to monitor the existence and potential use of dangerous weapons in storage. We monitor these sites often, along with other species. It is done for the purpose of the safety of our, shall we say, our investment in the human species so that they will not destroy themselves and at the same time, safeguard our own species. A contact at that base was made. It caused a disturbance. Occasionally, a demonstration of our existence is necessary on a scale that is equal to the task. It was important to monitor the weapons of these nations and to also test that we can still disable them, if necessary, and to monitor the current level of technology of these crude weapons in our ability to control those weapons in the future.
A good friend of mine, Dr. Roger Leir, recently passed. He has surgically removed many so called implants from abductees. Do you put these in or is it another race of Zetas? Maybe You have a version for your own purposes, for what reasons?
Implants: Our implants enhance natural brainwave patterns, which humans are unable to register. The human mind sends out energy and we can detect these naturally occurring waves of energy. Many species will use these energy waves to track abductees. They work as a form of radio transmitter to radiate a location. Human implants are not transceivers. They do not receive, only transmit. Alien forms of implants invariably can monitor human subjects in ways you might consider very invasive. Metabolic body functions, the subject’s thoughts, retrieved memories, and even new memories can be implanted and monitored. Some species can observe the human condition in ways your expectation of individuality might find uncom-fortable.
We track humans and others to monitor their well-being. Others have other agendas, especially locating beings to perform harvesting.
Please give us your take on abductions.
There are many illegal abductions where humans and other life forms are taken for selfish reasons. We sometimes take humans, but we give something in return. It is not to cause harm. Its purpose is to perpetuate and seed other planets. We are rather like bees, moving things along.
What can you tell us about hybrids?
We prefer the term blended beings. This is the norm. They exist everywhere, including your planet Earth. They walk among you and often move to new locations to avoid standing out due to their long lives.
Some of our scientist working for the government have also taken these out of humans and they are reverse engineering them. The carbon nano tubes and scalar wave technologies are now helping our society. Is this all intentional or just a byproduct of the abductions? (remove this question)
In space, astronauts have a degradation of the body. We are told this is due to no gravity. Other believe that is because of space radiation and yet others believe it is a lack of earth frequency 7.73 hz. Can you elaborate on this? How are humans to travel in space if our bodies are so weak?
Human bodies are not designed to travel in space. Our bodies have been bio-engineered to handle space flight. We are lean, strong, flexible, and carry a carbon-silicon base for additional strength.
In regard to the engineered beings you had mentioned earlier, the Grey's, do they have souls? Are they being controlled by one of your kind? An over soul? What propels them? (remove last question)
All sentient beings have souls. You speak of spirits, souls, we have them. We do not control the grays that you refer to. We are capable of controlling them, if need be.
Many of our earth scientists have discovered that we live in a hologram, a kind of virtual reality. Do your scientist also believe in this model? If all of this universe is just a projected image or virtual reality, and all of you are aware of it, then why do you still play the game?
Reality has also been described as a hologram, and some believe that it would only be a matter of time before the graininess of that projection would be discovered to learn what was on the other side. This is one analogy of reality. Reality is determined from the point of the observer. It is not a game, simply the shell that we live in, real or not.
I am curious; do you eat?
Yes
What do you eat?
We have a highly nutritious liquid for food. We also eat some fruits.
How do you create-prepare your food?
We grow some of our own food. We also bring food in from different “markets.” We prepare fresh food for guests and ourselves.
On earth there is a phenomenon called sun gazing where people get all the energy they need from the sun and just breathing. Some of these people don't eat food or drink water. They are known as breathtarians. I've heard of other ET races that don't eat as well, are there ones among you that don't eat? If so why don't you all choose not to?
We are not breathtarians. There are many different life forms. Some live solely on energy. Perhaps we will evolve someday to be like the breathtarians.
Are you familiar with Psychedelic chemical compounds such as DMT and Psyasiden, which is found in mushrooms? Some say these chemicals have had a heavy influence on human evolution. Does your race use such substances or did you have access to Psychedelics during your evolutionary process?
We would find such toxic chemicals to be abhorrent. We value clear minds, without manipulation by any toxins. Our minds, as an organ in our biology, take on added importance as not only one of thought, but also added sensory perception that is shared collectively in our species. We put a high value on this. It creates our intellect. It also creates our connectiveness with our own species in a form of collective knowledge and consciousness. To have certain toxins intrude on this, what would be lost would be greater than even what humans would experience. Plant X? - Did not ask this question - no information. Below is info on the Anunnaki and their genetic tampering: (remove question)
Was the first meeting of humans and the Annunaki a cooperative meeting or did the humans ultimately wind up serving the Anunnaki? The Anunnaki initially imposed themselves in very remote places. Gradually, the Anunnaki became more prevalent in the Sumerian society. In turn, the Sumerians had to submit and accept the advanced nature of the Anunnaki. It soon became apparent that it would be beneficial for both. One advanced civilization displaced the less advanced civilization. When the Anunnaki realized that their need for certain raw materials was satisfied, they erased much of their own presence in Sumerian society, and as a result, the Sumerian culture collapsed into your history. Was there any genetic material introduced into the human species at that time? Yes. Some Anunnaki were able to leave their mark in the Sumerian heritage and this modified the human structure, some of which is buried (in genetic code). It will only become apparent in man’s future when they become more telepathic. The contribution of the Anunnaki from long in the past will then manifest itself in a positive, unexpected way.
Earth changes? (remove question)
How many planets sustain species of humans?
It depends on how you define human beings. In ‘like frequencies of light’ there is a bandwidth, which includes what we call humans. The humans on this planet are part of an evolution started long ago. It conceals the fact that, because of the distance in time, humans feel that they originated here, but actually, the seed was planted in many areas of the Universe. There are also many species that you may refer to as ‘aliens.' We are actually, in a distant way, your relatives. Around the Universe, part of our seeding of other planets has made this possible. The 'aliens' that are often seen as foreign to you are ancestors and a glimpse of your future at the same time. There are many examples of human beings and you should not feel diminished by this. Rather, you should only feel magnified that you are part of a larger family, separated by a distance, which seems great to you only because of your level of development in technology. There is an interconnected family beyond, out there, about which one should feel good. You are not alone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 9:59:33 GMT -6
If factual, where lies the difference between 'helping mankind' and 'manipulating mankind'? To let a species develop naturally would seem a more divine intent..while accenting brain waves, etc.seems Dr. Mengele-ish in some ways, albeit with more galactic flair and knowledge. Hitler 'experimented' also..and we decided he was a bad guy (or most of us did). Why should we happily accept that 'aliens' have been manipulating and lowjacking our species for a very long time. My memories are very un-happy and painful ones conducted on two children...would any sane person find compassion in that act? So then..would a species without compassion..be good guys or?? Do they lie? Lots of these questions are ones we can't validate. Most of them. Essentially all of them. Do all of the races have the same answers or just this one? If planet earth took a poll and decided they didn't want little aliens dancing around in our brains (for the common good mind you) would they oblige and be gone? I dunno..maybe too much sugar.
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Post by Steve on Sept 18, 2014 0:42:37 GMT -6
Today, Mary & I were filmed or video recorded for a documentary being produced by Ruben Langdon. We did a session for him with Han, me, Mary, and filmed interviews. It was all filmed indoors and outdoors in the Napa wine country, with some clips filmed of me in the beautiful vineyards behind the home graciously offered by a IONS member. Mary and I will be ones among a number of people in the film. The video will be called 'Contact with extra dimensional s'. Learned later Ruben was also the main stunt double for Sam Worthington in the film 'Avatar'. As Ruben described, his motion capture body through trees and riding the flying creatures with Sam Worthington's face digitized over his. LOL. www.imdb.com/name/nm0486047/Mary and I answered the questions posed based on the book. I not too excited, but pleased and enjoyed the experience. All this because frustrated as most of us are hitting the usual brick wall (mufon...the phenomenon...) about UFO's.....I asked Mary innocently if under hypnosis would it be possible to perhaps talk with an extraterrestrial. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Sept 18, 2014 9:18:25 GMT -6
What was it that gave you the idea to use hypnosis? And what is it about hypnosis that allows communication to take place? Couldn't they just talk to people any time they feel like doing it or is there something about hypnosis that makes it easier? By clearing the mind of distracting thoughts perhaps? These are some of the questions I was wondering while reading through the book. I just never got around to asking them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 21:18:08 GMT -6
" The 'aliens' that are often seen as foreign to you are ancestors and a glimpse of your future at the same time." Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/4984/extraterrestrial#ixzz3DurZYfeg________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Both Lois and I (and others) have approached this "screwy logic" and tried to understand it. I sense the above statement to be truth, but can't understand why I "accept" it as truth. Care to explain to my 'lower brain' how this could possibly be true?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 23:18:17 GMT -6
The future coming back to haunt us and not something that seems 'right' to me at all. Mostly because when I think of time travel I get the most horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach..it actually does a twisty turny thing and somehow I know it's disastrous to mess with time and while possible, it truly is a cosmic no no.
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Post by Steve on Sept 21, 2014 3:38:00 GMT -6
What was it that gave you the idea to use hypnosis? And what is it about hypnosis that allows communication to take place? Couldn't they just talk to people any time they feel like doing it or is there something about hypnosis that makes it easier? By clearing the mind of distracting thoughts perhaps? These are some of the questions I was wondering while reading through the book. I just never got around to asking them. Before Mary and I started this experiment. Mary asked me after long talks over the phone, if she could do a past life regression on me. She knew I described in great detail. After the past life regression was concluded...(Mary was amazed - and so was I), I related to Mary how I was frustrated with the general lack of progress in the field of research into the UFO phenomenon...I asked Mary would it be possible to simply talk with an 'alien' using a kind of similar regression? She said after pondering it, remarked 'why not?' I knew already from the few remote viewers I had read about, ALL those 'remote viewers' remarked (at least those that came forward and related their accounts) coming into contact with extraterrestrials remotely. One example: 'Above Black: Project Preserve Destiny Insider Account of Alien Contact & Government Cover-Up' Paperback – January 1, 1998, by Dan Sherman www.amazon.com/Above-Black-Preserve-Government-Cover-Up/dp/0966097807So, would it work for us too? Having done this through hypnosis, which is more or less a clearing the mind and focusing, we naturally felt that was the way to go. I could not do this on my own, and Mary could not do this with out me. Though now, in a focused meditative state, Mary reports Han and Zestra come in telepathic contact with her now too. This was not the first time someone attempted this route, and certainly expect it won't be the last. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2015 15:29:08 GMT -6
Has anyone talked with or seen Steve since September?
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Post by paulette on Mar 6, 2015 17:07:35 GMT -6
Last I heard they were busy getting their next book ready for the publisher. Not sure when that was - last year though.
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