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Post by auntym on Jun 19, 2015 16:44:19 GMT -6
www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/abducted-aliens-neurologist-finds-similarities-alleged-victims Abducted by aliens? Neurologist finds similarities in alleged victimsPublished June 13, 2015 By COLIN M. STEWART Hawaii Tribune-Herald Email Colin M. Stewart at cstewart@hawaii tribune-herald.com. Neurologist Dr. Michael B. Russo says that he initially didn’t know what to make of the first few patients who told him they’d been abducted by aliens from outer space. “Their doctors sent them to me because they had headache pain or some sort of neurological problem,” he said. “Their primary physicians didn’t know they were having the problem due to abduction. But I would find out as part of my interview when I would ask how long they’ve had the problem, when did they first notice it. … Then they’d tell me.” As part of his regular testing of patients, Russo used his $200,000 dense-array electroencephalography, or DEEG, machine — the only one of its kind in Hawaii — to map the electrical activity in the brains of his patients. New patients, including several from the Big Island, came in with similar complaints about being abducted, leading Russo to wonder if there was anything the patients shared in common when it came to brain wave activity. “The patients were just coming to me, and I started noticing patterns across the patients. I’ll see three or four patients with something that’s similar, and then I’ll try to find an explanation for what it is I’m seeing,” Russo said. Each of the patients who claims to have been abducted by aliens and believed that a transmitter was implanted in their brain has shown abnormalities in brain wave activity in their parietal lobe. “That’s the area that does visual and auditory integration into higher order thinking,” he said. “The parietal areas process visual and auditory data, but they can intrinsically create it themselves and then send it to the pre-frontal region, where you become aware of it. … Our thinking is that there’s something in the parietal areas that’s generating (the feeling that transmissions from aliens are being sent to the brain).” The electrical brain wave activity of the alien abductee patients looks similar to that of patients who have experienced traumatic brain injury, he said. Russo, who operates offices in both Honolulu and Hilo, says that he tries to look at the patients’ experiences from their point of view and works with them to try to help alleviate their problem. “I’m not casting judgment about what it is they’re saying and their history,” he said Friday. “All I’m saying is that these areas of the brain are similar between patients. … Patients would not come to me if I did not take them seriously and their problems seriously. I don’t discount what they’ve said. I try to make the pain or discomfort or anxieties diminish.” CONTINUE READING: www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/news/local-news/abducted-aliens-neurologist-finds-similarities-alleged-victims
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Post by paulette on Jun 19, 2015 23:24:27 GMT -6
Wpw! The obvious question being - does parietal lobe damage cause one to believe they have been abducted? Or does abduction and brain implaints cause damage visible on an MRI???
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 1:12:52 GMT -6
From the article posted above :
The electrical brain wave activity of the alien abductee patients looks similar to that of patients who have experienced traumatic brain injury, he said.
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But, is there traumatic brain injury (other evidence other than electrical brain wave activity) in the "alien abductee patient"?
What kind of "traumatic brain injury" are we talking about?
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I fell head-first down a flight of outdoor cement steps, leading to a basement of a house, at approx. 18 mo. old. My mom saw it happen ( couldn't get there in time to stop it ) and I was taken to a dr. immediately.
My mom found me (another time) laying face down on the floor, still strapped in the car seat. She had left me, sitting in that car seat strapped, on a counter top for just a few minutes. I was taken to the doctor.
Both times, I went home that same day; bruised, swollen face and eyes and all, with the dr. saying I was "fine". We can presume no broken bones, and that he checked my pupils, because he did state I had a "mild" concussion and what other symptoms my parents should watch for.
Miracles! And I believe this whole-heartedly, because there was another incident when I was 2 and my brother was 3, and there was a trail of hair through our small house! He had chased me with a pair of scissors, and I didn't have much hair left when my mom discovered us! (and many other near-death miracles to follow).
I find out when I'm an adult, that a boney process that is at the bottom of the skull, and at the top of the neck, is loose, and it shouldn't be. That Doctor asks me if I ever had a "diving accident" or otherwise fell on the top of my head with full force, to cause this. ?
I have an abnormal EEG, and this is another time, another Dr. This doctor discounts the test results because another patient of his, saw me sitting in the waiting room, and told my doctor, that I once did drugs with his wife (they divorced before he saw me at appt.) ??
Okaaaay, so I'm just going to have to tell the next dr., "I think I am an alien abductee"? !?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 14:18:36 GMT -6
I never felt they stuffed anything in my brain..just in my ear. That is still messed up and never shuts up. I'm still betting it's the psychic people that they find interesting. Actually many of us here have swapped stories and find we have a lot in common.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 20, 2015 19:34:20 GMT -6
I've always suspected the little grey buggers mess around with people's brains to enhance the psychic abilities they have. I think that is why they stick things in the eyes and ears and nose...they are using those holes in the skull to access the brain. I don't think they are putting implants in, they are just somehow altering the brain a little bit...maybe surgically or electronically or who knows how, but changing it somehow. I suppose that could produce similar results to a traumatic brain injury. I have had my share of concussions also. I had at least two before I was five years old, and about a dozen more since then. Luckily I have a hard head.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 22:37:11 GMT -6
You could be right, Skywalker. But I still think "they" put implants in some of us.
On another thread, Aunty posted a "just released" docudrama, that I didn't comment on, because it was obvious it was made years ago, even though maybe it was just released. A person in that showed what was removed from their leg, and it looked a lot like the 'thing' that was surgically removed from my nose. Same shape, anyway, but theirs looked like a piece of glass (and remember, the picture I was given by my nose surgeon, disappeared).
Of course the sinus cavity is really close to the brain. . .
I'm tending to think that "finding weird implants" in people, is another one of those things that we have actual proof of, but it is kept hush-hush.
Not as serious as "human mutilations", but still very much suppressed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 1:18:34 GMT -6
I just read an article about the Parietal lobe.
Apparently people with schizophrenia tend to have damaged Parietal lobes.
Great. Another neurologist comparing us to people with serious mental illness- albeit subtly. ~rolls eyes~
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 19:05:12 GMT -6
About Dr. Russo After 34 years in the US Army Dr Russo has opened a civilian practice in Neurology, Sleep Disorders, and Traumatic Brain Injury in Honolulu and Hilo. Dr. Michael Russo has brought Dense-array ElectroEncephaloGraphy to Hawaii through his experience as a research neurologist with the US Army's Medical Research and Materiel Command, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Washington, D.C., the U.S. Army's Aeromedical Research Institute, in Alabama, and Johns Hopkins General Clinical Research Unit in Baltimore Maryland. www.hawaiisleepneurologist.com/_____________________________________________________ Rats! Its the military again! (sorry Dr. Russo.)
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Post by lois on Jun 21, 2015 20:56:49 GMT -6
The electrical brain wave activity of the alien abductee patients looks similar to that of patients who have experienced traumatic brain injury, he said.
Well my brain gets messages sent to the wrong part of the brain. That is the cause of my pain. They don't know what signal it is. My doctor told me 500 messages a second . Wow we got fast thinking minds don't we?? They could n ever find the one that is messing me up. It is caused by white lesions on the audio Nerve. The audo nerve sends messages constantly. When I get vibrated the audio nerve does not know what to do with it, so it sends out a signal any where. Does this make sense? this is how he explained to me. Whether these aliens did it I do not know . I only know vibration the next day made me fall down. No control at all. The day before my encounter I had nothing like this ever.
Ive been in enough MRI's and they show no implant. But of course I never mention alien encounter and missing hours to anyone in the medical field.
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Post by lois on Jun 21, 2015 21:07:04 GMT -6
Oh yes years before this I did mention to a internal medicine Doc. she called me her little alien abductee when she entered the room on my visits. She was really making fun of me and was never serious.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 21:27:26 GMT -6
That's funny Sky..before I was 5 I had two 'concussions' one which knocked me out. My horse kicked me in the head when I was 5 and I fell on the merry go round at the playground. I still think my ear thingy was a lojack but when we were abducted..they were accessing lots of areas close to the brain...so you could be right about that. Or they find brain matter yummy and we're missing some Our brains are more sophisticated than any computer..and probably a lot different from their own. I do know..that emotions get in the way of psychic abilities..which is why so many of us meditate. To still the emotions and thoughts pinging around. I definitely believe that people are 'lojacked' with implants but I don't believe the implant theory that influences behavior. Then too...they may have entirely different agendas with different people. I can only speak as to how I've felt..and what I've processed about myself. What I feel in my brain now..compared to before 'them'. I am a ton more aware than I was. I can't see a single lasting thing I can say they were responsible for. I was psychic as a child..I still am although I went through a pretty dry phase for several years..I know too..why that was. I am a lot less fear-full now than I was then..I don't 'spook' at shadows or worry about dying. I'm comfortable in the world around me and wishing for a better understanding of the 'so much more' I was given to think about in the hospital. I like being alone in my own head..I'm comfy there...stressed around lots of people because of the clamor in their minds. My biggest frustration right now..is how fast everything seems to be moving and that nagging feeling of something coming..that never seems to get here. I know what you mean about the 'psychoanalysis' comparisons Lorelei..it irks me beyond belief..but then...they're clueless
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Post by Steve on Jun 21, 2015 22:16:38 GMT -6
WOW! Steve
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Post by paulette on Jun 22, 2015 10:03:46 GMT -6
While many of us are pondering - how many head injures did I accumulate during my life time - I've gotta say that most people can remember at least 5 and that doesn't count birth trauma or rolling off the bed at an early age etc. And these folks do NOT all claim UFO/Visitor experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 10:42:37 GMT -6
Absolutely Paulette. It's just another target for misfortune LOL. Wasn't that long ago that I feel off of a ladder onto my head shattering a coffee table and ending up in a pile of glass. Dr said..nice hard head 'rolling my eyes'. I have one of those doctors (this one makes me feel young) who is not a reactionist. If I'm worried about something he does this strength test and tells me I'm stronger than he is..if that changes then worry. Sheesh. The funny thing is..that is very reassuring to me. Too far from my heart to kill me..it was my heart that almost did 'laughing'.
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Post by lois on Jun 22, 2015 23:20:07 GMT -6
I have had my head bashed in more times than I can count. For one I was a tom boy. Fell out of trees got hit with a hard ball between my eyes at point blank I was the pitcher. Got knock out several times in my life. Does it count being electrocuted for several minutes when I was tied to a wringer washer that was not grounded. Fell of the porch roof onto concrete right on my forehead. I have a deep cut line on my forehead today and it goes up the middle to the top of my head under my hairline.
I look at these people who have shaved heads. Boy was I surprised how smooth their skulls were. I told my husband my head would have more dents and hole in it than everyone. I can feel it all with my fingers
I do know that my gray matter is where my white matter should be and vise versa. That is what my MRI report says and the doctor told me this. I never did understand exactly what that meant.
I think the aliens just made it all worse. But I was fine up til then as far as pain and white lesions . Never had a sign before hand. My jaw is a total mess . Completely destroyed . They tell me I had to of injured it sometime in my life. Well it was like the way it is now at 12 years old. I never hit it that I can remember . I did roll down a 40 ft. incline in a car at 17 but that was much later. A boy knocked me out in gym class in jr. high. Nothing left effects at the time. I felt ok. I was hit by a car on a sled at 8.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:58:48 GMT -6
You are the one person in here Lois that really sticks out to me..rather to my 'psychic sense'. More than anyone else here. Several here are strong with this..Sky..Cliff..Paulette..Lorelei and others..all project really strong 'vibes' (for lack of a better word) but Lois..you truly trouble me. Because I think you really WERE manipulated..I think they tried to do something and it caused you lasting damage. I'm positive that if someone were a strong enough psychic it could cause brain damage especially in someone young. The other thing is..I'm not sure those were the same aliens we all seem to have in common or they really learned from their mistake with you..because you are the one with the physical symptoms..and it just all feels 'heavy' like there's a wall around your memories..encapsulated. The rest just don't feel like that to me. You're the odd woman out Lois. The one who just won't fit in the 'grey' pattern. Wish I knew if it even bothered them that they hurt you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 16:32:05 GMT -6
You are the one person in here Lois that really sticks out to me..rather to my 'psychic sense'. More than anyone else here. Several here are strong with this..Sky..Cliff..Paulette..Lorelei and others..all project really strong 'vibes' (for lack of a better word) but Lois..you truly trouble me. Because I think you really WERE manipulated..I think they tried to do something and it caused you lasting damage. I'm positive that if someone were a strong enough psychic it could cause brain damage especially in someone young. The other thing is..I'm not sure those were the same aliens we all seem to have in common or they really learned from their mistake with you..because you are the one with the physical symptoms..and it just all feels 'heavy' like there's a wall around your memories..encapsulated. The rest just don't feel like that to me. You're the odd woman out Lois. The one who just won't fit in the 'grey' pattern. Wish I knew if it even bothered them that they hurt you. You stick out to me too . Except (and I know Jo thinks this way, also), I can't help wondering "what you were meant to be" . And, that's not with sadness, mind you. I could complement you all day on your strengths, your "zest", your mojo, and no one here would accuse me of "kissing bu____"! Most of all, when I want to think happy thoughts about your situation, I picture that little girl, just sitting on her trike, and "someone" noticing you from their "spaceship", and waving at you in a friendly way. I don't think anyone could 'fool you'. You may feel differently about that statement now, and I DO think that is something that "they" tried to do to You, once the "bad ones" realized what you are capable of. Whether the initial brain damage was accidental, in the way that Travis Walton thought his abduction was accidental, doesn't matter right now. Because you and I know that some of "theys" could heal you. Or G_d could heal you (they are not G_d). If you were healed, if you always had a perfect, loving, supportive husband, would you still be talking to all of us? Only YOU can answer that, but I have a feeling . . . The 'heaviness' is there, and I'm so sorry that you feel it sometimes. But you are still quite the beacon. !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 16:40:23 GMT -6
I think the aliens just made it all worse. But I was fine up til then as far as pain and white lesions . Never had a sign before hand. My jaw is a total mess . Completely destroyed . They tell me I had to of injured it sometime in my life. Well it was like the way it is now at 12 years old. I never hit it that I can remember . I did roll down a 40 ft. incline in a car at 17 but that was much later. A boy knocked me out in gym class in jr. high. Nothing left effects at the time. I felt ok. I was hit by a car on a sled at 8. Yeah. "people" that aren't really doctors, shouldn't be playin' doctors. My jaw is really messed up too (you guys already know about all the dental work I had, and can picture my mouth being artificially held open for "procedures"). But why mainly just one side? That really shows up on x-rays. IDK. Years of clenching jaw in anger? Years and years of grinding teeth while sleeping? The neck problem related?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 16:57:11 GMT -6
last, but not least:" I have an abnormal EEG, and this is another time, another Dr. This doctor discounts the test results because another patient of his, saw me sitting in the waiting room, and told my doctor, that I once did drugs with his wife (they divorced before he saw me at appt.) ??"
Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/5792/abducted-aliens-neurologist-similarities-victims?page=1#ixzz3dvaiCAg9___________________________________________________________________________________________________ This event does not make sense to me for several reasons (nevermind that I'm now very much against "using", and am embarrassed to admit why). The biggest thing to me, is this happened 20 or so years ago . . . back then, doctors thought drugs (no matter when used) changed the brain? Enough to cause an abnormal test?? and, possibly, enough to make me see, hear, and perceive things differently than "I was meant to", permanently? Hogwash. Did this doctor care to keep me as a patient? Obviously not. Stoopid questions, No?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 23:32:08 GMT -6
Not stupid..just someone looking for answers that are elusive. We all seem to be hunting..never sure exactly what we're hunting for..just..MORE. Especially lately..the last couple of months have been really taxing..like I'm trying to get somewhere but I'm bogged down..not able to take the steps I want to. I will never know..what things might have physically changed when my friend and I were abducted. From the time I can remember..I never saw a doctor until I separated my shoulder in a tumble from my horse when I was 8..then never again until I gave birth to my oldest son at 19. After my children I never saw a doctor until the day had a heart attack...and kinda died. The doctor told me I had a previous heart attack..there was scarring on my heart. Missed that one LOL. Actually at one of the horse shows we were at..I got very sick (and that is my heart attack symptom..I throw up). I spent the weekend..throwing up and it went away. No reason for the heart attack (s).
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Post by paulette on Jun 24, 2015 8:51:27 GMT -6
Dear seekers (of answers). After years of my friends telling me to avail myself to therapy - to revisit trauma and open it up to being seen by the conscious mind (and hopefully dissapated) well...I am going at 150$ a session plus travel for a hour back and forth (to another town.) I think I've got a good one but...
Will he REALLY GO into the dark corners with me? He asked me to give him 2 memories from every year (that I can remember) of my life. I intentionally put in happy ones as well as the not-so-happy. But the ones that need working on - I only thought about later. And the night of the UFO - he has not mentioned that. I am outspoken but was amazed when I thought about my list that there were serious ones that floated up that I had't mentioned. Some of them are very personal (trauma almost always is) and I may have blocked choosing them due to strong emotions about talking about them. But they are exactly the ones that should be investigated.
My persistant dreams of "being summoned" and having to go outside? Match up with the fact that my father caged me in my bed at about age 2 or 3 "so that I wouldn't wander around". Later (age 8 or so) he caught me going out a door I would not have used in the daytime in the middle of the night "...to see my pony." My friend remarked - he sure was listening to see where you were. Family secrets? Do the little gray men have anything to do with this? My therapist wants me to feel better. I want to feel like I finally know what was going on. Very different goals. It would be SO EASY to assume that I just hit my head or that I made it up to be special or it was something else (done by humans). But I don't know why any human would manipulate a child to get up in the middle of night and leave the house. Or have dreams of great emotional yearning and dread to go meet with them. No we didn't have neighbors or weird people going around calling children psychically. The one town pedahile was known to everyone (but it was assumed he was just a little weird and not harmful. He only seriously preyed on his family members, left in his care while the parents drank.)
Always I come back to the same thing. What did my father know? Did he too, as a boy have yearnings to go into the bush behind a house or go outside at night? Did his nosebleeds (and my nosebleeds) have anything to do with this?
One thing is for sure. At least if I get validation I will report it. If I cease to be interested in the topic because I'm "all-better"? Get a hold of me and shake me by the ears.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 10:52:05 GMT -6
Nods..don't let him 'program' you into obliteration...I'd miss you too much
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 12:21:03 GMT -6
Thanks for reminding me about the cost, Paulette! Isn't it horrible? And who knows what he is writing in your "chart"? Thats one thing about our privacy already gone . . . may as well tell it like it is, since supposedly our little quirks are already known. Sigh. Do you think the "important" memories were held back by you, intentionally? Or was there possibly some other way they (the memories) were blocked temporarily? No matter the cost, I would probably hold things back until I felt more comfortable with whomever. But of course its also a symbol of aging; that forgetting exactly what we want to say in the moment. hang in there. I do think its worth it, and considering doing the same myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 15:56:19 GMT -6
Dawns on me that to an extent that's what prayer is. There is NOTHING you can hide from God or his angels. And they act about the same as a psychiatrist and charge a lot less LOL I'm not good at sharing my inner child with humanity. I do quite a bit of that here..and you guys are a patient audience. But when I have tried to talk to a 'professional' (I had a doctor who's horse I was training) my blood pressure would soar, my palms would sweat and I'd freeze up like a Popsicle. Besides..she was nuttier than I was I hope..it helps you Paulette..
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Post by lois on Jun 24, 2015 23:31:47 GMT -6
Jo I never felt I had ever seen a gray before. My photographic memory tells me so. If I had ever seen one I would of known when grays hit the media. I seen grasshopper eyes in one of these events I'm sure. One will never know if the same aliens were with them their entire life or not. From all the literature I have read they seem to be the same life form every visit. Such as timetravler's aliens or tt. Jim . But on the trike jc they were small little people in suits. wearing helmets so the heads could of resemble any alien on the list.
The visitors contacting me with mind only... I know was the ones in that ship in 1972. As far as physic it runs in my family on my Mothers side. They were consider the ones we were not suppose to talk about. They carried some kind of plague no one wanted to catch. Or they were demonic . They were all kind loving God fearing people but some just close their ears today if you bring it up. They all went to the spiritualist church back in the 1880s and I believe some of the descendants still do. Blame it on those sisters with the rapping table.
Yes there is a block and a large one because I cannot crack it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 10:35:39 GMT -6
That's probably your brain telling you that it's had quite enough of that ...My friend who was abducted with me lost the entire day and there were other things that day that should have been stand outs. Her mind just wouldn't bend itself around what went on and still won't. She never was the kind of person to think outside of the box. She had a Catholic up bringing and a 'level-headed' nurse for a mom..her world was pretty narrow. That day blew narrow out of the water and while my brain let me have it in bits and pieces as I matured..her brain said..no way..nope..never..did NOT happen. We protect ourselves.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 2:59:38 GMT -6
Speaking of concussions Jo, I seem to have suffered from my first one Wednesday night. Didn't realize it until Friday morning. It's not fun. Never had one before. Ended up going to the ER Friday morning with severe vertigo and nausea. The room was spinning. It was scary- thankfully it didn't start until AFTER I had driven the car 20 miles to my daughter's grandma's house. Didn't hit me until I reached the top of her stairs... I laid down on her sofa for a few minutes, she assumed it was another migraine. I insisted it wasn't, it didn't feel the same. I then politely asked her to take me to the ER and she obliged. It was a good thing I was with her instead of at home with my mother and daughter alone... then I would have had to drive 20 minutes... or... call an ambulance... yech. I didn't think I had hit my head that hard... I didn't even remember it until the ER doc asked me, "Did you hit your head?" "ohhhh... yea I did last night... why?" Like... what could THAT have to do with any of these symptoms of brain injury? lol... Now I just have a horrid headache and am suffering from confusion. I'm glad she gave me Vicodin. I raised an eyebrow at her when she wrote me a script for it because I wasn't having any pain at the time. Psh. Well. Now I do. And I have vertigo and nausea meds too. Not too much damage. It was already damaged to begin with somehow. (maybe that one time I hit my head on the wall of the swimming pool while underwater when I was 12... or that other time... or what about the times I don't remember hitting my head...) Hmmmmm... time for bed. My daughter is like me. Once she's asleep it's nearly impossible to wake her. Takes her forever to go to sleep. I just changed her diaper- without her waking up at all. Hm. Her daddy nods off at the drop of a hat and wakes up if I slightly twitch in the night... or cough...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 21:01:23 GMT -6
My head seems to have gotten thicker with age LOL. Glad you weren't seriously hurt Lor.
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