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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 3:19:19 GMT -6
Amen brother Sky...Amen
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Post by swamprat on Feb 22, 2017 19:13:23 GMT -6
Thanks to Lorelei for finding this:
The difference between a politician and a statesman is that a politician thinks about the next election while a statesman thinks about the next generation. James Freeman Clarke
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 10:56:08 GMT -6
Aren't so many of them around.
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Post by auntym on Feb 23, 2017 13:46:12 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Feb 23, 2017 14:15:53 GMT -6
Haven't figured out yet, how to love such an obvious hypocrite. . . but "loving" the president?
Not required.
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Post by jcurio on Feb 24, 2017 14:08:20 GMT -6
Hmmmmmm.......
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Post by swamprat on Feb 24, 2017 15:32:19 GMT -6
What City is This?It is MARSEILLE, France's 2nd largest city. And do you know what is the 2nd language spoken in Marseille? Well, it's French. THE FIRST IS ARABIC.
Omar Gaddafi once said in a speech that there was no need to invade Europe, because in 20 years Europe would be Muslim.
Is this the vision Soros and Obama had for America?
Time for American citizens to pull their head out of wherever they are hiding it and face the reality of what’s happening in the rest of the world... (and coming to a city near you.)
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Post by auntym on Feb 24, 2017 16:00:55 GMT -6
Republicans Face Town Hall Protests, Trump Golfs: A Closer Look
Late Night with Seth Meyers
Published on Feb 23, 2017
Seth takes a closer look at Republican members of Congress facing constituents in their home districts that are angry about Trump and the GOP's agenda.
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Post by auntym on Feb 24, 2017 16:07:58 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 16:39:06 GMT -6
Well since they are paranormal subjects we don't have to worry People have the right...to worship as they will. People have the right to be republican or democrat. People have the right to like Donald Trump and..people even have the right to hate him. When it becomes confrontational on this forum...then I think it needs to go elsewhere. Personal opinion here..but everything that has been said I can see on Yahoo...forming my own little opinions as I go. And if the press doesn't start some UN_biased ...responsible reporting..then maybe they need to be shut down. Unless you believe in all you're reading..then..I'm sorry for you
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Post by jcurio on Feb 24, 2017 17:50:09 GMT -6
Ready to be less vague - and hunkering down ready to dodge the consequences.
Under the second bush, president, I believe there is PROOOF that this guy did some manipulating of our press.
It wouldn't take me long to hunt out all the people that noticed how our "news" sounded indentical in every state.
The next thing I would look at, is how many of the press began to feel threatened after nineelleven!
T is inheriting everything left to him. Just like every other "new boss" who comes on the scene of any establishment.
I actually would like to enjoy the news every now and then! I got the "bees playing soccer" sitting with the folks with the tv on. 😄
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Post by swamprat on Feb 24, 2017 18:22:06 GMT -6
In my humble opinion, the press is shutting ITSELF down by being biased. Whatever happened to, "Just the news and nothing BUT the news!"? Today, they interpret what everyone says and does, and then they tell us what to think about it. You have Fox, Breitbart, and a few others biased right and you have pretty much everyone else biased left.
Another by-product of all of this bias is that it has spawned the age of "fake news". Unscrupulous entities can throw out all sorts of false garbage and it's difficult to detect because of all the biased reports from main stream.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2017 19:16:53 GMT -6
Also the biased reporters are very rude, disrespectful and antagonistic which is why they get *bleep* out. I wouldn't want to talk to people who do nothing but attack and criticize me. Why would the president?
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2017 19:18:03 GMT -6
Bleep?? What the heck did I just write that caused a bleep?
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2017 19:20:30 GMT -6
That's "shut out" not "*bleep* out." Stupid autocorrect.
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Post by auntym on Feb 24, 2017 19:24:37 GMT -6
Well since they are paranormal subjects we don't have to worry not sure what you're talking about here...People have the right...to worship as they will. People have the right to be republican or democrat. People have the right to like Donald Trump and..people even have the right to hate him. i agree... When it becomes confrontational on this forum...then I think it needs to go elsewhere. Personal opinion here..but everything that has been said I can see on Yahoo...forming my own little opinions as I go. And if the press doesn't start some UN_biased ...responsible reporting..then maybe they need to be shut down. Unless you believe in all you're reading..then..I'm sorry for you gee...just when i thought this thread was dying down up pops jo with her 2 cents... ...
you do realize free press is the first amendment in our constitution...it is what helps keep us free from people like hitler and there have been many of those in our world history...
also, john mccain is right...the press is the first thing dictators shut down ...or don't you believe that? it is something donald trump is trying to do now... listen to the news or read a newspaper ...it is happening right now...
if it wasn't for the press we would never have known about watergate...or would you have shut that down because you didn't want to deal with it... or you just weren't interested... was the press wrong informing us about it? i'd like to hear that answer...
YES...there is a lot of crappy false news out there, unfortunately, the first amendment does not protect us from that...i guess our forefathers figured we'd be smart enough to weed out the bad ones...they were wrong... most of us do weed it out but not all of us...because of your remark i'm not sure where you stand... are you someone who listens only to fox news? even fox is getting tired of donald trump's ranting about the press...
but, at the same time there is a lot of great news organizations ... they are some of the ones i copy & paste over here...NEW YORK TIMES, NEW YORK POST, WASHINGTON POST, CHICAGO TRIBUNE, SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE, L.A.TIMES...just to name a few...
i'm sorry for you too jo, if you or anyone else believes the press should be shut down...maybe you should quit burying your head in the sand and start reading everything SO you can become better informed...
one more thing ...if you don't want to hear about the news or anything else on this forum...don't read it... its that simple...
also, if someone like you or cliff or whoever starts giving me a hard time...you can bet i will stand my ground... regardless of how you feel about it...
here's an interesting article by the washington post about how trump is wanting to hide his involvement with russia... or is this ok with you? I WOULD CALL THIS REAL NEWS...
www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-sought-to-enlist-intelligence-officials-key-lawmakers-to-counter-russia-stories/2017/02/24/c8487552-fa99-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?utm_term=.0f64f7826b48
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2017 19:50:56 GMT -6
I believe I've heard enough about politics for one election cycle. This thread about political mudslinging is on the verge of going bye bye for the next four years...
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Post by casper on Feb 24, 2017 21:01:57 GMT -6
I believe I've heard enough about politics for one election cycle. This thread about political mudslinging is on the verge of going bye bye for the next four years... I've heard enough about politics too. Let's talk about something cool like ghosts...or haunted houses. Or maybe ghosts. Or maybe haunted houses.
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Post by casper on Feb 24, 2017 21:37:11 GMT -6
That's a spooky house if I ever saw one! I bet all sorts of horrible things go in there.
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Post by skywalker on Feb 24, 2017 21:57:14 GMT -6
You have no idea how right you are...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 23:38:55 GMT -6
Casper my friend..you are one wise soul. Auntie you are right that people have the constitutional right to talk..even MY two cents worth?? I am not good with confrontation...and politics bring out the most horrible verbal bs of all. Religion and politics are never good topics...as my step mother used to say..bad manners, lack of consideration and each individual determined to be right. That IS the definition of a war..each side believes with all their heart..they are right. All I was saying is that it's a paranormal forum and while it may stretch a point..I'm thinking the topic isn't. So..now that's my 3 cents worth Or is this going to go on for the next 4 years???
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Post by swamprat on Feb 25, 2017 14:19:34 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Feb 25, 2017 14:21:30 GMT -6
I believe I've heard enough about politics for one election cycle. This thread about political mudslinging is on the verge of going bye bye for the next four years... I really hope not. Even if some people here are "sensing innuendos", there has been no name calling! Honestly, this IS the ONLY place I feel free/safe to openly voice my "political opinion". Just like I feel free to talk about the paranormal here. This is ONE THREAD. It's not like anyone is "getting hurt" here. I understand that threads should be shut down if those participating are seeking to hurt our members! Otherwise, ONE THREAD is igannable. Just like I have the freedom to ignore or change the channel on news. 😊
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Post by auntym on Feb 25, 2017 14:54:38 GMT -6
this is FAKE NEWS swamp, tweeted by trump after watching fox news...don't you know how to FACT CHECK?...here's the REAL NEWS
this is trump trying to take credit for something he had nothing to do with...
"the federal government is still operating under the budget passed before Trump came into office, so even if the overall debt decreased, his administration had little to do with it."www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-on-national-debt-in-first-month-under-obama-stock-market-2017-2
Trump tweets wildly misleading comparison of the national debt in his first month to Obama's by Bob Bryan / www.businessinsider.com/author/bob-bryan On Saturday morning, President Donald Trump took to Twitter to point out a fact he thought the media was underreporting: the decrease in the national debt in his first month. "The media has not reported that the National Debt in my first month went down by $12 billion vs a $200 billion increase in Obama first mo[nth]," tweeted Trump. The tweet, which echoes something Herman Cain said on Fox News' Fox & Friends an hour before, doesn't make sense for a few reasons. First, it is true that the debt has probably ticked down but as noted by the Atlantic's David Frum, this is mostly due to the federal government rebalancing its intra-governmental holdings. Debt outstanding to the public has barely budged since Inauguration Day.
Additionally, the federal government is still operating under the budget passed before Trump came into office, so even if the overall debt decreased, his administration had little to do with it. Finally, and most importantly, the economic circumstances during his and Obama's first month in office are vastly different and make the comparison totally off base. When Obama took office in January 2009, the country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. The US economy lost 702,000 jobs in February 2009 and 832,000 in March 2009, GDP growth collapsed, and foreclosures soared. In response to this crisis, Obama did what presidents typically do during recessions: took on debt to stimulate the economy. In the depths of a recession, private investment collapses. So, generally accepted economic theory concludes that the government should induce investment and step in during these times of crisis to prop up the stumbling private sector. Thus, both Obama and his predecessor George W. Bush signed into law bills to inject large amounts of capital into the economy to both save the financial sector and get people back to work. For instance, Bush passed the Troubled Asset Relief Program in October 2008 which used just over $426 billion in federal funds to "bail out" the country's largest banks. Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in February 2009 which allocated $831 billion in federal funds to finance investment projects such as infrastructure. By contrast, Trump has inherited — as he even noted — a country with a vastly improved economic standing. The labor market has improved drastically, with unemployment at just 4.8% and the number of people claiming unemployment benefits nearing the lowest point in 40 years. In fact, during Obama's term the US added over 11 million private sector jobs. Things outside of the labor market are pretty solid as well. Corporate profits have recently dipped below all-time highs and the stock market has soared more than 225% from its bottom in March 2009, and the housing market is growing again. While it's not all perfect — business investment is lagging, wages still haven't hit pre-crisis levels, and economic gains have not been equally distributed throughout the country — there is no doubt that Trump inherits a better economic starting position than Obama did in 2009 with no reason to spend massive amounts of federal money to assist the economy. Trump even noted these differences in a follow-up tweet. "Great optimism for future of US business, AND JOBS, with the DOW having an 11th straight record close," tweeted Trump. "Big tax & regulation cuts coming!" While some of the increase in the confidence indexes have come after the election, much of the economic good news was around before Trump took office. www.businessinsider.com/trump-tweet-on-national-debt-in-first-month-under-obama-stock-market-2017-2
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Post by jcurio on Feb 25, 2017 16:23:48 GMT -6
Well, the T we all think we know, is going to use every thing as an extension of his ego. No doubt there!
And I'm not "trashing our current Prez", because he will be the first to point out how "great he is", no matter what!
Can we "break" this HABIT?
Does it (only) say something for his personality (and what happened with Hitler, who didn't make any money in his first choice of career), or do we look a little deeper at what CAN happen to the wealthy, or ANYONE who gets the idea that they are gifted, special, elite, etc, etc. ??
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Post by jcurio on Feb 25, 2017 16:35:19 GMT -6
BTW, FAKE NEWS is a concern for future generations as well. THAT IS CONCERNING.
in the future, will generations blow off the claim that "T literally dictated WHAT would be "news"? (IF he could get away with that). These biased reporters attacking him, will make him look like future generations SHOULD BE questioning what is written about him historically.
I agree that let's go back to reporting the news, and keeping your opinions to yourself and personal friends and family.!!
The guy is only "unreachable", in his own mind. He's obviously not a loner, and people don't (yet) trust any leadership he has to offer
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Post by jcurio on Feb 25, 2017 16:37:41 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Feb 25, 2017 17:23:48 GMT -6
Now, is that "fake news"? Or a little truth smacked in there with a lie or two (disinformation)?
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Post by swamprat on Feb 25, 2017 18:17:16 GMT -6
My darling Auntym, yes dear, I know all too well how to fact check. Unfortunately, I just don't care anymore. I was TRYING to be sarcastic!
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Post by swamprat on Feb 26, 2017 11:46:45 GMT -6
Membership of the 114th Congress Jennifer E. Manning, Senior Research Librarian September 7, 2016
This report presents a profile of the membership of the 114th Congress (2015-2016). Statistical information is included on selected characteristics of Members, including data on party affiliation, average age, occupation, education, length of congressional service, religious affiliation, gender, ethnicity, foreign births, and military service.
As of September 7, 2016, in the House of Representatives, there are 247 Republicans (including 1 Delegate), 191 Democrats (including 4 Delegates and the Resident Commissioner of Puerto Rico), and three vacancies.
The Senate has 54 Republicans, 44 Democrats, and 2 Independents, who both caucus with the Democrats.
The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 114th Congress was 57.0 years; of Senators, 61.0 years, among the highest of any Congress in recent U.S. history.
The overwhelming majority of Members of Congress have a college education. The dominant professions of Members are PUBLIC SERVICE/POLITICS, business, and law.
Most Members identify as Christians, and Protestants collectively constitute the majority religious affiliation. Roman Catholics account for the largest single religious denomination, and numerous other affiliations are represented.
The average length of service for Representatives at the beginning of the 114th Congress was 8.8 years (4.4 terms); for Senators, 9.7 years (1.6 terms).
One hundred eight women (a record number) serve in the 114th Congress: 88 in the House, including 4 Delegates, and 20 in the Senate. There are 45 African American Members of the House and 2 in the Senate. This House number includes two Delegates. There are 38 Hispanic or Latino Members (a record number) serving: 34 in the House, including 1 Delegate and the Resident Commissioner, and 4 in the Senate.
Thirteen Members (10 Representatives, 2 Delegates, and 1 Senator) are Asian Americans or Pacific Islanders. Two American Indians (Native Americans) serve in the House.
At the beginning of the 114th Congress, there were 101 Members (18.7% of the total membership) who had served or were serving in the military.
www.senate.gov/CRSpubs/c527ba93-dd4a-4ad6-b79d-b1c9865ca076.pdf
After reading this, I've selected today's lesson:
And, after sampling Sunday morning's "mainstream media", I have proposed a new "national bird" for the United States:
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