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Post by swamprat on Dec 2, 2018 13:17:12 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Dec 2, 2018 13:28:09 GMT -6
Hahahaha...good one swamp... i do love my opinions... even when they're different than yours...
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Post by skywalker on Dec 2, 2018 19:28:32 GMT -6
That was kind of funny.
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Post by swamprat on Dec 13, 2018 9:59:04 GMT -6
If the Manger Scene were to happen in 2018.....
Sigh..............
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Post by jojustjo on Dec 13, 2018 23:23:16 GMT -6
No test tube for baby Jesus? Seems times were intensely more reverent back then. Can you imagine the journey....little donkey...very pregnant lady (pit stop every half hour...poor Joseph)...night in the desert...uncertainty..worry (Joseph still had a man's worry of taking care of his wife)...life today suddenly seems very shallow...
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Post by swamprat on Dec 14, 2018 11:06:12 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Dec 24, 2018 13:54:46 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Dec 29, 2018 17:48:44 GMT -6
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Post by swamprat on Mar 8, 2019 11:22:58 GMT -6
This is very painful to read. How can a human being stoop this low?Chris Watts drove 45 minutes with dead wife and daughters before killing girls, family lawyer says Colorado man Chris Watts, admits to killing his missing pregnant wife Shanann Watts and their two young daughters, Photo Date: 11/23/17 / Photo: shanannwatts / Instagram / (MGN)
By: CBS News March 6, 2019
FREDERICK, Colo. – Four-year-old Bella Watts pleaded for her life, just moments after she watched her father kill her younger sister "CeCe," according to lawyer Steven Lambert. Lambert, of the Grant & Hoffman Law Firm, represents murder victim Shanann Watts' parents Frank and Sandy Rzucek, CBS Denver reports. The law firm shared new details about the murder with Dr. Phil in an exclusive interview.
According to lawyer Thomas Grant, Chris Watts confessed new details to investigators after finding faith in prison. Watts spoke for hours with police on Feb. 18 from a prison in Wisconsin.
"He is claiming that he is remorseful, and he has found God," Grant told Dr. Phil. Lawyers confirmed Sandy Rzucek was not given access to the audio recording in advance, but was briefed on the discussion by law enforcement. Rzucek wished to share the information with the public, prior to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation releasing the redacted audio recording on Thursday.
The Rzuceks hoped sharing the story would help clear their daughter's name, after some believed Chris Watts' original story that she killed the children.
"They 100 percent know their daughter was not capable of hurting those kids, and would never do that. Now, to hear him admit it, is important to them," Grant said. While many believed the Watts daughters were murdered in the family home in Firestone, lawyers say Shanann was the only one who died in the house. Lambert said Watts killed his wife in their bedroom, after she threatened to take his children away because he wanted a divorce.
"In that fight he confessed to having an affair," Lambert told Dr. Phil.
After Shanann was strangled, Lambert said Bella Watts walked in the room, to find her father wrapping Shanann's body in a blanket.
"(Bella asked) 'What are you doing with Mommy?'" Lambert said. "What he said was, 'Mommy is sick. And, we need to take her to the hospital to make her better. From our understanding, Bella did not witness the actual killing of her mother."
Video surveillance from a neighbor's home showed Watts backing his work vehicle in to the driveway shortly after. Later, he admitted to loading Shanann's body in to the back floorboard of his truck.
According to Lambert, Watts then told his daughters to get in to the truck, and the family left the home. After a roughly 45-minute drive, Watts arrived at the location where he would bury his wife.
Lambert told Dr. Phil that Bella Watts then watched from the truck, as Watts disposed of Shanann's body, and murdered CeCe.
"He walks over, takes CeCe's favorite blanket, and smothers her. Then, he takes her body, takes it out of the vehicle. At this point, Bella had unbuckled herself from the vehicle. He went back to the vehicle," Lambert said. "Bella said, 'Please, Daddy, don't do to me what you just did to CeCe.'"
Lambert said Watts murdered Bella last, moments after she pleaded for her life.
"There was a struggle from Bella. I believe there were signs that she fought for her life," Lambert said. "Of the things that have been hard for the Rzuceks to comprehend and to accept in this reality, what happened to Bella in those last moments has been the hardest."
www.wctv.tv/content/news/Chris-Watts-drove-45-minutes-with-dead-wife-and-daughters-before-killing-girls-family-lawyer-says-506780661.html?fbclid=IwAR3HlyFporccJrFF7bUMdp28C6v73YXZzIjCdyaHDcRhr27ug-WF6BrdNSw
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Post by jcurio on Mar 9, 2019 15:53:09 GMT -6
confessed new details to investigators after finding faith in prison. Watts spoke for hours with police on Feb. 18 from a prison in Wisconsin. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6639/weep-country?page=3#ixzz5hiJ0YKr0_________________ (Get ready to be offended by my logic 😥) Ask this guy, to give a confession AGAIN, in 1 mo., 2 mo., and I bet he will be willing to tell his “story” AGAIN. They (authorities) DID NOT NEED HIS CONFESSION to find bodies, or other evidence. SO WHY GIVE HIM HOURS?! to talk about it. Could they (authorities) have OFFERED him a tape recorder, that they would listen to later, IF he needed some sort of, clarity?
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Post by jcurio on Mar 9, 2019 16:00:58 GMT -6
Just try, picturing, listening to this guy FOR HOURS. Especially after a declaration of “found faith”.
It is my understanding that the guy had also wrote letters or kept a diary about his affair.
The parents explanation of “clearing their daughters name”. Anyone paying any attention to the trial, already knew......
Ha! (Joking - what I am now WAITING to hear, is that he thinks he was “possessed by demons” and after “finding faith” he suddenly remembers more details..... GAG; throw up)
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Post by jcurio on Mar 9, 2019 16:03:36 GMT -6
Can’t aurhorities simply say “I am not listening to you anymore?”
(baffled)
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Post by jojustjo on Mar 12, 2019 23:48:34 GMT -6
They give him hours to talk because it's his right, not because they want to listen. Our judicial system gives him that right and the right of appeals over and over (at the expense of tax payers). There will be a movie...a book...those crime dramas on tv...those trying to understand how it's possible for someone to do that. There will be those who are positive it's a demonic possession....or the devil himself who made him do it. I don't think the 'devil' makes anyone do anything. He did this but he may never own it...because then he would have to face the fact that he really IS the monster. How much of this has been going on..is purely insane. A little girls body over the weekend was found in a suitcase...mom had not turned in an amber alert...boyfriend is arrested. A little boy a toddler...is wandering a local freeway off ramp at 12 midnight hit by a car....thank heavens he saw a motion and swerved and just clipped the little guy. Mom of course races to the hospital looking for her missing child. Little boy and his sister found dead ...beaten and starved. Parents arrested...it goes on and on. In some horrible way the little girls were lucky to die quickly..when I think of a 6 year old girl and an 8 year old brother..beaten and starved...oh and the best one...mother of the year who breaks her infants arms (both) and the child is given back because the mother is so contrite? What are her odds? Why the children??
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Post by swamprat on Mar 30, 2019 14:32:45 GMT -6
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