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Post by auntym on Feb 1, 2017 13:27:36 GMT -6
www.topsecretwriters.com/2017/01/jacques-vallee-tells-a-fan-he-has-not-given-up-on-ufo-research/ Jacques Vallee Tells a Fan He Has Not Given Up on UFO Researchby Mark Whittington / www.topsecretwriters.com/author/markwhittington/30 January 2017 Recently a person who calls himself “Concerned Earthling” wrote a fan letter (1) to Jacques Vallee (2), a noted computer scientist, venture capitalist, and UFO investigator to inquire why he was withdrawing from the field of UFO research. Vallee wrote back(3), reassuring the fan that he was not entirely separating himself from UFO studies, but plans to continue delving into the phenomenon. Vallee would be a fascinating character even if it were not for his interest in UFOs. He was involved in the Arpanet, the predecessor of today’s Internet. He was an astronomer while living in France in the early 1960s and wrote a science fiction novel “Le Sub-Espace” (Subspace.) He later became a venture capitalist specializing in a number of high-tech business ventures. The Legacy of Jacques ValleeBut Vallee is most famous for his interest in UFOs, which started in the mid-1960s when he moved to the United States. He was mentored by J. Allen Hynek (4), an astronomer who started as a UFO skeptic and who eventually admitted to the possibility of alien visitations. Vallee served as the model of Lacombe, the character played by Francois Truffaut in the Steven Spielberg movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” Vallee’s journey with regard to UFOs took a different path than that of Hynek. He started with the belief that UFOs are alien spacecraft, but then began to develop other theories to explain the phenomenon. He described his new ideas in a recent interview on “Coast to Coast.” (5) As a computer scientist, Vallee started to notice common patterns in not only UFOs but also religious visitations, sightings of cryptids, and psychic phenomenon going back throughout history. He believes that every one of these events, once one accounts for events caused by natural phenomenon, is the result of a nonhuman consciousness, likely from another dimension, attempting to manipulate the consciousness of human beings to effect social change.
Passport to MagoniaThe theory suggests that disparate events such as the visitation of the Virgin Mary at Fatima, any given religious revelation perceived by such people as different as Mohammed and Joseph Smith, and any unexplained UFO sighting are part of a campaign to influence humanity. Joseph-Smith-Golden-platesThe purpose of this campaign, using deception and changing according to the culture of the time, is unknown. Vallee, by the way, does not believe in a government conspiracy to conceal the truth about UFOs (6). That, in his view, is part of the deception. He related his theory in his classic book, “Passport to Magonia.” To buttress his alternate theory, Vallee has proposed five arguments against the idea of UFOs as extraterrestrial in origin. (7)1. Unexplained close encounters are far more numerous than required for any physical survey of the earth; 2. The humanoid body structure of the alleged “aliens” is not likely to have originated on another planet and is not biologically adapted to space travel; 3. The reported behavior in thousands of abduction reports contradicts the hypothesis of genetic or scientific experimentation on humans by an advanced race; 4. The extension of the phenomenon throughout recorded human history demonstrates that UFOs are not a contemporary phenomenon; and 5. The apparent ability of UFOs to manipulate space and time suggests radically different and richer alternatives. Not Popular With EveryoneVallee’s theories have, to say the least, angered some on both sides of the UFO debate, skeptics and believers alike. Valle has often expressed frustration with the religious nature of some of the arguments for which he has been called a “heretic among heretics.” He has not withdrawn entirely from UFO studies, however. He has recently published a new book, “Wonders in the Sky,” (8) which chronicles aerial phenomenon, which could be interpreted as UFOs, dating back to antiquity. He notes that pre-20th century phenomena predate heavier-than-air aircraft, Area 51, and (for the most part) speculation about extraterrestrial life. In effect, Vallee has developed a kind of unified field theory that explains a whole host of unexplained phenomenon. Agree with him or not, his ideas are original and compelling. www.topsecretwriters.com/2017/01/jacques-vallee-tells-a-fan-he-has-not-given-up-on-ufo-research/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 19:48:06 GMT -6
I've always found his theories sound. I have more problems with 'aliens' coming through vast spacial distances than I do with dimensional theory or some other close at hand explanation. Everyone has their own pet theory or they're sensibly waiting to find the truth. There are a LOT of difficulties with the idea of space travel..gravity pulls..radiation..and more than my 'less-than-scientific-mind' conceives. However much people want the Star Trek Federation to be a reality..I am really afraid the truth is likely to be closer to home in some relative space/time continuum.
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Post by jcurio on Feb 10, 2017 9:34:07 GMT -6
Passport to Magonia The theory suggests that disparate events such as the visitation of the Virgin Mary at Fatima, any given religious revelation perceived by such people as different as Mohammed and Joseph Smith, and any unexplained UFO sighting are part of a campaign to influence humanity. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6771/heretic-heretics-jacques-vallee?page=2#ixzz4YIRZ1xOF*** I've started reading "wonders in the sky", his (Vallee) collaboration with another author. The introduction purports it to be a " follow-up " to passport to magonia. 🙂 So far, I'm reading about some events that I've never heard of ... and the authors openly claim that they want more input about these " hard to document " (due to year of claims) events... Interesting stuff
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 10:08:48 GMT -6
Anything 'paranormal' seems to also be very elusive to prove..with only a percentage of the population ever 'seeing' a thing. My hat's off (if I wore one) to people who haven't ever stepped into that circle but still believe in it and hunt answers. Some people just do go with their instincts, which aren't really instincts but the psychic center of the brain..in my less than humble opinion I love it when people just feel it and go with it. As a race I think we tend to over think things to extinction. Bit frustrating though to be on the hunt for the answers to only ever find more questions
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Post by jcurio on Feb 13, 2017 9:03:33 GMT -6
Sometimes I find answers. They strike me as real, honest to God answers (literally). 😉
And the way that these answers "show up", much later than I looked for them, often takes away that ! eureka !! moment.
Not like these "questions" are scientific experiments. 😅 But yeah, I do envy the idea of a scientist who gets "an idea". The scientist who has a hypothesis, and then tries it out.
Have we forgotten about that word, hypothesis? Lol. DOES it make a "test" slanted? It SHOULD make a person honest. In the scientific world, you want your test to be repeatable. By anyone.
A few conditions or variables change, and you should be able to account for them. 😊 ********
My ! eureka ! moment is tinted (knowingly OR unknowingly) by the thought " I can't believe it" ; because of its supernatural or paranormal slant. The soon next thought is " no one will believe it "; so that takes the fun out of sharing (there IS FUN in sharing 😊).
You'd THINK ( NOT over-think) that coming "upon an answer" in a book, any book, and often preferably a different book than what raised the initial question, would be something you could share . . . after all, it's right there in print. Open for interpretation. ~ sigh ~ *********
If I lead a person on a little too much. . .... I'm truly sorry.
That ! eureka ! moment is SO memorable when you find it yourself! (Even if it takes a person a little longer to realize what has been "stumbled upon".
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Post by jcurio on Feb 13, 2017 9:21:29 GMT -6
I'm having trouble this morning pulling up that book by Vallee and Aubeck. Here's another book by Chris Aubeck (Vallee writes the forward). www.anomalistbooks.com/book.cfm?id=85Keep trying . . 😄 CHRIS AUBECK is the founder of the historical research group Magonia Exchange, an international archival project. He is the author of a dozen articles in English and Spanish, contributes to radio programs in Spain, and delivers talks on the subject of the evolution of UFOs as cultural history. He is the co-author of Wonders in the Sky (2010) with Jacques Vallee and OOPARTS: Objetos Fuera de su Tiempo (2015) with Juan José Sanchez-Oro. In May 2015, he organized the first two-day conference on historical UFOs, “The Inhabited Sky,” in La Casa Encendida, Madrid. Aubeck currently lives in Andalusia.
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Post by jcurio on Feb 13, 2017 9:29:09 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Feb 13, 2017 9:35:09 GMT -6
21 May 70 AD, Jerusalem Flying chariots surround the city Flavius Josephus writes: "On the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding cities." CXI, quoted in " The Genuine Works of Flavius Josephus, the Jewish Historian," translated by William Whiston, (London, 1737). See also: Sara Schechner, Comets, Popular Culture and the Birth of Modern Cosmology (Princeton University Press: 1999),44 32.
(From the listings in the Jacques Vallee / Chris Aubeck "wonders in the sky" 2010)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 12:36:15 GMT -6
that would be something to behold. I think so many things from so long ago would be see a tad differently today. When the brain only has so many references..to view something as..it makes do. An airplane could become a chariot in the sky. I wonder hundreds of years from now..how inadequate our own views of things will be. I'm trying to figure out what I'm actually interested in now. I could care less about greys and their agenda if they even have one..were they going to take over the world..they'd have done it before now. If any of them were so inclined..it would be over and done...IF they are more advanced than we are. Maybe I'm more interested in what is there..that we can't see. Your mystery foot print JC..I'd love to know what made it. Things I know exist but can't see..angels..other elements that inhabit our space. So much of 'alien' lore gets drawn out into nowhere land..spot an alien ship...then it's the black helicopter or the men in black or or or. Travis Walton intrigues me because of his detail. He wasn't seeing men in black after the fact I wasn't..don't think Sky was. Sometimes I think they're thrown into the mix just to throw the mix off. Ennui? I think that's what I'm suffering from. grrrrr..
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Post by auntym on Nov 21, 2017 23:16:07 GMT -6
www.reddirtreport.com/rustys-reads/jacques-vallees-passport-magonia-folklore-flying-saucers-still-packs-punch Jacques Vallee's "Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers" still packs punchby Andrew W. Griffin / www.reddirtreport.com/users/andrew-w-griffin November 21, 2017 BOOK REVIEW: Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers by Jacques Vallee (Daily Grail Publishing) 2014/ 1969 Having further familiarized myself with the 50-plus year old writings of John A. Keel these past few months, finally getting down and reading long-loved cult classics like Operation Trojan Horse (1970) and The Mothman Prophecies (1975), the repeated references to the works of French-American scientist and ufologist Jacques Vallee – a contemporary, and friend, of the late John A. Keel – finally convinced me that Vallee’s own classic, Passport to Magonia, was required reading. Why? Because Keel, in his entertaining and entirely readable way, helped pull away the masks of the manipulative pranksters (“ultraterrestrials”) of the Superspectrum, essentially reporting that these entities have taken on different guises over the millennia –and that they have always shared our planet, despite humanity not knowing who they really are or where they live. They are here. It’s just they are the ones who decide when they appear before human beings and in what form. Most commonly, in the Middle Ages, they were seen as the fairies and elves of ancient folklore, and so forth. But with time came change and the “costumes” and methods also changed, as we entered the age of the airplane and the “Space Age,” with the increased appearance of “craft,” allegedly piloted by “aliens” who are here to help mankind and steer us to a New Age, or so we are told. And so it is interesting how both Keel and Vallee both tapped into the idea that took them from believing the extraterrestrial angle regarding aliens and UFOs to promoting the interdimensional idea, which dismisses the theory that the "visitors" are travelers from another planet. On the day I began reading Passport to Magonia (Nov. 16th), I later learned that I was reading the book on the 40th anniversary of the release of the Steven Spielberg-directed film Close Encounters of the Third Kind. In this film, a French scientist character named Lacombe (played by Francois Truffaut) was directly inspired by Vallee. In any event, Passport to Magonia ("Magonia" being a mythological "cloud realm" populated by the entities so often encountered during modern cases of UFO sightings or in antiquity) highlights the idea, as Vallee writes in the preface, that "investigators (into UFOs) have never recognized the fact that belief identical to those held today have recurred throughout recorded history and under forms best adapted to the believer's country, race, and social regime." Vallee also admits that when he wrote the manuscript for Passport to Magonia in the late 1960's, he "entirely forgot that I was a scientist by profession," confessing that he felt science was not pursuing questions that human beings have in their hearts. And as a scientist, he opted to delve into the lengthy history of folklore, from around the world, and in Europe and the Americas in particular, noting the large number of strange beings, aerial craft ("cloudships") and other odd events that perplexed man and woman alike over the centuries. And what better way to interfere with the destiny of human beings as we become more technologically advanced. The forces that are appearing in various forms (short beings, tall beings, male or female, with masks, gas masks, helmets, long hair, no hair, big eyes, small eyes, mouth movement or telepathy ...) over the years seem to understand that, as Vallee writes, "(h)uman actions are based on imagination, belief, and faith, not on objective observation ..." Yes, we are human and fallible. Continuing, Vallee writes: "Even science, which claims its methods and theories are rationally developed, is really shaped by emotion and fancy, or by fear. And to control human imagination is to shape mankind's collective destiny, provided the source of this control is not identifiable by the public." Indeed! From the fairies, "wee folk" "Gentry," "Good People," and dwarves that haunted to European countryside to today's seemingly solid "flying saucers," Vallee makes valid arguments that the phenomenon, over the centuries, are one and the same, as the book's cover seems to indicate. CONTINUE READING: www.reddirtreport.com/rustys-reads/jacques-vallees-passport-magonia-folklore-flying-saucers-still-packs-punch
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Post by auntym on May 6, 2018 12:12:16 GMT -6
www.dailygrail.com/2008/07/jacques-vallee-on-messengers-of-deception/ Jacques Vallee – On Messengers of Deceptionby Greg / Thursday, July 17th Daily Grail Publishing has just released a reprint of Jacques Vallee’s UFO classic, Messengers of Deception (Amazon US and Amazon UK). Last week I had a quick chat with Jacques about the book, and the controversy it created in ufology. It was intentionally short – I could talk to Jacques for a couple of days on all manner of topics, but in this case I just wanted to address the elements of his work which have made him, as he describes it, “a heretic among heretics” – namely, his concern about uncritical acceptance of the UFO phenomenon, and also the ‘psychic’ manifestations found in UFO reports which suggest that they may not be “nuts and bolts” craft. Jacques’ answers are succinct and incisive – here’s a few pull-outs: *“Many erstwhile ufologists don’t want the deceptive reports exposed, just as the Catholic Church long denied instances of abuse in its ranks.” *“People linked to the intelligence community of the major countries have been closely involved in studying UFO cases since World War Two. That interest is legitimate, whether it is purely personal (as most of them claim) or related to their official duties. The same is true in parapsychology.” *“[T]he phenomenon comes in an environment of manifestations that include heightened awareness of synchronicities, paranormal sounds and lights and occasionally absurd coincidences similar to those described in the poltergeist literature.” *“By denying the reality of the reports, brushing aside the witnesses…and treating them like fools or crooks, the academic skeptics are actually teaching the public that science is impotent at studying the phenomenon.” The full interview is below.———— TDG: Jacques, thanks for talking with us here at The Daily Grail. Let’s get straight to the new release: the original publication of Messengers of Deception in 1979 marked quite a turning point in your standing with the ufology community. Your warning that we should be more careful about embracing the phenomenon, and that its underlying qualities could well be negative and deceitful in nature rather than benevolent, was rejected by many (and still seems to cause angst to this day). I’m keen to know what acted as the catalyst for the writing of Messengers of Deception, and if you have thoughts on why so many in the UFO research community paint it as a betrayal of sorts?Jacques Vallee: The evidence for an “undercurrent” of deceit behind some alleged UFO cases only becomes visible when you spend time in the field interviewing witnesses and tracking down the evidence. It became annoying to me because it represented a waste of time and a distraction from studying genuine observations. Researchers who collect reports only through books or media accounts would not necessarily encounter this level of the phenomenon and would understandably resist the suggestion that the belief in extraterrestrial intervention is being manipulated to serve political or cultist goals.Book cover for Jacques Vallee's Messengers of Deception Even people who are fully aware of this negative aspect don’t want to bring it up into the open because they think it will call disrepute to the subject. Many erstwhile ufologists don’t want the deceptive reports exposed, just as the Catholic Church long denied instances of abuse in its ranks. Whistle-blowing is never welcome. My own position has always been that, on the contrary, the best way to gain the respect of the intellectual community is to expose hoaxes, sloppy research and manipulation whenever we encounter them. TDG: The underlying message of the book seems more relevant now than ever – in the last few years, we’ve had the “Serpo” case gain high traction in certain parts of the community, and now the “CARET Drones” story seems to have taken on a life of its own, despite there being little to no evidence behind either. Considering the dangers in uncritical belief that you warn of in Messengers of Deception, do you think high profile ufologists and media should be more diligent in exercising a ‘duty of care’ when presenting these cases so eagerly?Jacques Vallee: If we do not establish a high standard for the data we publish, the entire field suffers. Then it becomes easy for skeptics to claim that the phenomenon only appears before “cranks and weirdoes,” as astrophysicist Stephen Hawking recently stated in England. This is exacerbated by the increased credulity of the public and its blatant exploitation by the media. It seems that people – including some highly educated folks – are ready to believe almost anything they see on the Internet or on Larry King. TDG: In Messengers of Deception, you warn people to be careful of ‘psy-ops’ initiated by intelligence agencies and the military – you cite the World War II case of the ‘London Controlling Section’ (LCS), whose sole purpose was strategic deception, often using “tricks of science”. How far do we take this caution though? A large portion of ufologists, most of the individuals who have worked in researching/conducting remote viewing, and also a significant portion of parapsychologists, all have fairly strong links to military or intelligence groups. Should we therefore be highly skeptical of the claims made in regards to each topic, even if it seems scientifically sound?Jacques Vallee: The same standards should apply here that apply in science generally: Look at the evidence behind every claim, track down the references, and test the data yourself. People linked to the intelligence community of the major countries have been closely involved in studying UFO cases since World War Two. That interest is legitimate, whether it is purely personal (as most of them claim) or related to their official duties. The same is true in parapsychology. This only becomes a problem when that quasi-official interest goes beyond pure research and extends to actually faking sightings, disseminating false photographs or films and promoting weird beliefs, either to serve as distraction from actual intelligence operations, or as a cover for the development of advanced prototypes. A good example is given by the claims of UFOs seen over the USSR in the seventies, that were planted by the KGB to cover-up the launching of soviet satellites that violated the SALT treaties. Every nation can play this game, and has. TDG: When we look at ufology in the 1960s, versus today, I’m not sure a lot of progress has been made (perhaps even the opposite). Is ufology a sisyphean endeavour, unworthy of our prolonged attention? You’ve personally devoted almost 50 years of research and writing to exploring the phenomenon – can you give a simple opinion to the question: what is behind the UFO phenomenon?Jacques Vallee: You’re asking me two different questions here. I have convinced myself that there was a real UFO phenomenon once the errors, hoaxes and occasional manipulations were screened out. We do know a great deal more today than we did just 10 years ago, thanks to dedicated researchers who have invested their time and resources to documenting the data. That is not as good as a serious scientific research effort, but one should never underestimate what can be achieved by motivated amateurs. This being said, it would be unrealistic to expect quick solutions, in this field as in any other scientific endeavor. I have also been interested in the nature of consciousness, and that field has not gotten closer to a solution in fifty years either. Similarly, look at some of the lingering enigmas in archaeology, or in medicine: all we can do is document our data and hope someone will make sense of it at a later time. TDG: Turning to another aspect of your research that has made you a ‘heretic’ within ufology: You were one of the first to explore the idea that UFO events were as much ‘psychic’ in nature as ‘physical’. Can you detail some of these ‘psychic’ aspects, and what you think the cause is?Jacques Vallee: This is still a little-known aspect of the sightings because most investigators don’t probe into this area, either for lack of background in parapsychology, or simply because they think they already know the answer, and it must involve simple “nuts and bolts” spacecraft. It takes a very brave witness to bring up such experiences in the face of skeptical researchers. I don’t believe a UFO observation makes anyone “psychic,” to use the popular terminology, but the phenomenon comes in an environment of manifestations that include heightened awareness of synchronicities, paranormal sounds and lights and occasionally absurd coincidences similar to those described in the poltergeist literature. TDG: On that note, Margaret Mead once wrote: “When we want to understand something strange, something previously unknown, we have to begin with an entirely different set of questions. What is it? How does it work? Are there recurrent regularities?” I’ve been intrigued myself with some of these “recurrent regularities” when it comes to paranormal phenomenon – in particular the strange sounds heard, although there are other things such as strange fogs, odd tastes and smells in the mouth – but find it odd that ufology research doesn’t seem to address these so much. From your own research, have you been able to identify such “recurrent regularities”, which to me would provide solid evidence that there is some sort of objective, structured phenomenon at work here?Jacques Vallee: The phenomenon is very robust in its manifestations, both physical and physiological. The former can be seen when plotting the time of day when observations are made (the “Law of the Times”) and the development of specific waves or flaps. Physical traces, interference with car ignition, patterns of light phenomena and energy have all been documented by serious authors. The physiological factors include evidence of exposure to UV radiation, frequent effects on the eyes (from conjunctivitis to temporary blindness), skin blisters or injuries in reaction to focused beams of light, temporary inhibition of muscle control, disturbances in the sleep cycle, and general fatigue and anemia lasting over 7 days and life-threatening in some extreme cases. TDG: Despite these intriguing pieces of evidence though, ‘skeptics’ (of the CSICOPian kind) still tend to write off ufology as a mass of “Venus sightings”. Is the skeptical/rationalist movement – and academia in general – guilty of ignoring the phenomenon based almost purely on intellectual ego and fear of embarrassment? And is there a danger that by alienating themselves (pardon the pun) from the experiences of the public, they will actually enable those very beliefs? As you rightly note in Messengers of Deception, “When the Establishment is rational, absurdity is dynamite.”Jacques Vallee: By denying the reality of the reports, brushing aside the witnesses (including trained observers like pilots or military personnel) and treating them like fools or crooks, the academic skeptics are actually teaching the public that science is impotent at studying the phenomenon. As the belief in the reality of UFOs grows among the population along with the evidence that a real phenomenon exists, people naturally tend to turn away from science in their search for answers, and that is a very dangerous trend. TDG: Similarly, in Messengers of Deception you note that “the experience of a close encounter with a UFO is a shattering physical and mental ordeal”. Are UFO experiencers unfairly shunned (and worse, ridiculed) by medical and psychological support networks, based simply on the nature of their experience?Jacques Vallee: What these people go through is worse than being shunned. In most cases, they are left to fend for themselves, and they become easy preys for groups with quick answers. In the words of a woman who wrote to me after she had a horrible experience she interpreted as an alien abduction, followed by a series of disastrous hypnotic sessions at the hands of incompetent researchers, “the ufologists were worse than the beings who abducted me.” The vacuum that has been created by academic neglect is getting filled by all kinds of irrational belief systems, often linked to conspiracy theories and political paranoia. That was true when I wrote the book thirty years ago, and it is even more true now. The 2008 reprint of Jacques Vallee’s classic work “Messengers of Deception” has been re-edited by Dr Vallee, and also comes with a new Foreword. You can purchase the book via Amazon US and Amazon UK. Jacques Vallee was born in France, where he received a B.S. in mathematics at the Sorbonne and an M.S. in astrophysics at Lille University. Coming to the U.S. as an astronomer at the University of Texas, where he co-developed the first computer-based map of Mars for NASA, Jacques later moved to Northwestern University where he received his Ph.D. in computer science. He went on to work at SRI International and the Institute for the Future, where he directed the project to build the world’s first network-based groupware system as a Principal Investigator on Arpanet, the prototype for the Internet. He is now a venture capitalist, and lives in San Francisco. He continues to research the UFO phenomenon. www.dailygrail.com/2008/07/jacques-vallee-on-messengers-of-deception/
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Post by paulette on May 6, 2018 13:56:55 GMT -6
Sounds like he is keeping his mind open, rather than accepting carte blanche the reports of people which may, in fact, have been contaminated by questioning methods, aimed hypnosis, etc.
I'm always been interested in reading about accounts that do not substanciate the poster alien on the Communion cover.
One thing though seems to hold true in many reports as an under-story rather than detail. The reporting people (myself included) were frightened beyond anything that had happened to them before IN THEIR ENTIRE LIFE. They may have calmed themselves or asked for help to do so. But its hard for me to disregard the unlikeliness of a person driving along, tired, ready to be home and in bed and suddenly being in the situation of overwhelming fear.
I think some of this fear is species alienation. The same thing that makes most humans not want to cuddle up to snakes or spiders. Or roaches. (There are of course a few that do). But the deep paralizing fear is significant to me. We now know that trauma can be passed through the DNA to one's children. If humans have been in the presence of Visitors all along, a signifcant amount of us may carry the trauma gene for fearing them. Just a hypothesis of mine.
Likewise fearing "demons" is part of the mix. People seem to like the idea of meeting angels but the ones who actually have (maybe) feel differently. They are fear producing as well.
Incidentally, CBC radio had a man on yesterday talking about a signal interruptor that could be used to stop fleeing fugitives in a car. Or stop a car or vehicle from crashing through a gate or into a crowded area and detonating. It takes only a moment to jam the electric signals necessary to keep an engine running, and our police have access to them now. All those accounts of cars that stop suddenly once the UFO is nearby? Yeah. Like that.
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Post by auntym on Aug 15, 2018 12:26:10 GMT -6
www.dailygrail.com/2018/08/jacques-vallee-the-software-of-consciousness-and-the-secret-psychic-history-of-the-world-wide-web/Jacques Vallee: The Software of Consciousness and the Secret (Psychic) History of the World Wide Webby red pill junkie / Tuesday, August 14th, 2018 When it comes to the dawn of the modern computer age, most of us think of rebel visionaries and college dropouts working out of their parents’ garage; whiz kids who became billionaires before turning thirty, by tinkering with clunky prototypes that held the promise of revolutionizing the world in ways previous generations could not even dream of. All the multinational companies that were born out of those success stories are all too happy to uphold this romanticized version of history for their clients. But like ALL versions of history this one is also woefully incomplete, because it leaves out a key element in Silicon Valley’s past that those tech giants are either unaware of, or just too embarrassed to acknowledge — it leaves out PSI phenomena. In his presentation for the 61st Annual Convention of the Parapsychological Association on the campus of the Institute for Noetic Sciences in Petaluma, California, Dr. Jacques Vallee spoke about this ‘hidden history’ of Silicon Valley, and how the world wide web we’re so proud and dependent on owes a big debt to psychical research and the study of the untapped potentials of human consciousness, since it was at the famous Stanford Research Institute (SRI) that their scientists were involved in two major programs that ended up working in tandem: the ARPANET and the Stargate “psychic spy” program. The ARPANET, as everybody knows by now, was the precursor of the modern Internet and developed at the behest of the Department of Defense’s ARPA (now called DARPA) in order to create a computer network capable of enduring a nuclear conflagration. In the early 1970s Vallee was stationed at SRI’s Augmentation Research Center – where many important technological breakthroughs were achieved for companies like Xerox and Hewlett Packard, such as the mouse interface – collaborating on the ARPANET project; but, as he explains in the presentation below, he soon became involved in the Stargate program as an ‘unpaid consultant’ and became a good friend of both the researchers and some of the individuals with alleged psychic abilities they were testing, including Ingo Swann and Uri Geller. It was out of this little-known collaboration between the two departments at SRI (the computer scientists and the psychic researchers) that some of the protocols later adopted by Stargate’s remote viewers came to be, like the use of latitude and longitude ‘coordinates’ – which mimicked the ‘virtual addressing’ system in which computers can locate non-local information not stored in their databases, similar to how viewers can retrieve information they have no knowledge of. Vallee also explains how he served as a ‘gateway’ in order to conduct an early experiment with psychics on one of the first commercial networks (TYMNET) in 1975. Instead of using the typical Zener cards – which Swann found insufferably boring! – the psychics were asked to describe rare minerals acquired from geological collections, either on a double-blind format or while being held by the geologists. One of the people who participated in the experiment was Richard Bach, the world-famous author, and with Ingo Swann they were both the ones who obtained the higher scores. In an age in which the illusion of Western supremacy is embodied in the monolithic shape of a smartphone, and when many geeks are anxiously awaiting for the Singularity promised by their techno-prophets, these missing pieces in the incomplete history of Silicon Valley are a sobering reminder that many of the cybernetic breakthroughs we take for granted were brought to us by people who had a great deal of interest in the mystery of Consciousness – and who had no qualms about ‘hacking’ their own consciousness using mind-altering substances… but that’s another long story. The ultimate objective of ARPANET was the augmentation of human intellect, and as such the people involved in laying the foundation for our modern world wide web, saw their goals converging with those of their SRI colleagues working on other types of ‘radical’ ideas, like the study (and practical harnessing) of extra-sensory perception; both groups saw themselves as peers and pioneers pushing the boundaries of Science on different fronts. Which is why Vallee’s final admonition to his audience of parapsychologists is so important: Psi research should lead, not follow. Parapsychologists shouldn’t obediently wait until Physics deigns itself to come up with an adequate model which could explain what they observe in the lab, but the other way around. In doing so, and making adequate use of the modern tools conceived by their old Silicon Valley colleagues, Parapsychology could become instrumental in laying the basis for a much-needed upgrade in modern Science. But perhaps the most shocking (yet hardly surprising) thing Dr. Vallee said in his presentation was in response to a question from the audience, with regards to the topic for which he’s most famous for: UFOs. When asked about his opinion on the current situation in the field of ufology, he revealed he’s in the process of shipping *all* of his former research into the care of two institutions for archival and safe-keeping purposes. “I want to go out to do something else” he stated to an audibly gasping audience, making it clear how even though he’ll forever remain interested in the phenomenon of unidentified flying objects and close encounters with non human entities, he’s ultimately disappointed with how ufology remains “too superficial to really get into the roots of the problem” and wishes to spend the remainder of his life on more fruitful endeavours. The last adieu of a heretic among heretics? At the very least, something to think over for those who still compare Tom Delonge’s To the Stars to the Second Coming. Whatever the case, Dr. Vallee will forever be remembered in the annals of Impossible History as someone who led, instead of merely following. www.dailygrail.com/2018/08/jacques-vallee-the-software-of-consciousness-and-the-secret-psychic-history-of-the-world-wide-web/
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Post by jcurio on Aug 15, 2018 22:53:36 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Aug 15, 2018 22:57:23 GMT -6
The last adieu of a heretic among heretics? At the very least, something to think over for those who still compare Tom Delonge’s To the Stars to the Second Coming. Whatever the case, Dr. Vallee will forever be remembered in the annals of Impossible History as someone who led, instead of merely following. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/6771/heretic-heretics-jacques-vallee?page=2#ixzz5OJWofcCb*********** Oh my. And now the “second coming” is mentioned.... go ahead. Tell me I’m crazy. I’m MORE AWARE OF these “synchronicities” every day......
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Post by jcurio on Aug 15, 2018 23:00:33 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Aug 20, 2018 12:16:07 GMT -6
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Post by jojustjo on Aug 21, 2018 2:38:36 GMT -6
Always has been someone who has my interest. I've always felt that most UFO activity is not from space but from dimensions close to ours..through some sort of doorway or portal..which happened to be his pet theory. Listening to him and reading him, he never sounded like some blundering crackpot.
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Post by auntym on Sept 12, 2022 15:34:35 GMT -6
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