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Post by randy on Feb 4, 2017 12:01:12 GMT -6
I have heard on the internet that some Democrats have been at the Pentagon trying to get the military to stage a coup over throwing Trump as president. May be but at what point does such action turn into treason like Benedict Arnold. Such actions happened during the reign of FDR. Some millionaires went to Smedly Butler the head of the marines at the time to get him to stage a coup. Butler instead went to FDR and told him about the coup. FDR told the millionaires dont do that again or they would be arrested. Does such an attempted coup constitute treason.
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Post by auntym on Feb 4, 2017 15:19:34 GMT -6
I have heard on the internet that some Democrats have been at the Pentagon trying to get the military to stage a coup over throwing Trump as president. May be but at what point does such action turn into treason like Benedict Arnold. Such actions happened during the reign of FDR. Some millionaires went to Smedly Butler the head of the marines at the time to get him to stage a coup. Butler instead went to FDR and told him about the coup. FDR told the millionaires dont do that again or they would be arrested. Does such an attempted coup constitute treason. wanting trump impeached does not constitute treason
www.nytimes.com/1861/01/25/news/treason-against-the-united-states.htmlPoll: Trump has highest disapproval rating of any newly elected president www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-approvals-234628
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Post by skywalker on Feb 4, 2017 16:52:24 GMT -6
It would be treason if they actually tried it.
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Post by auntym on Feb 4, 2017 19:31:38 GMT -6
rantt.com/donald-trump-is-unstable-and-he-could-be-removed-from-office-129f5c3ef1e0#.n5v9ijicvby Ahmed Baba / rantt.com/@ahmedbabaFeb 2, 2017
Donald Trump Is Unstable — And He Could Be Removed From Office Section 4 of the 25th amendment was created for a reasonPresident Donald Trump has shown no signs of sobering up since he’s assumed the most important role in the world. He’s still impulsively tweeting, hurling insults, and exhibiting the same reactionary lack of discipline and shaky relationship with the truth that he embodied throughout his candidacy. During his campaign, this blatant lack of decency was dispelled by his supporters as “genius showmanship” used to garner attention and manipulate the media. “He’ll change when he gets into office,” they decried. Well, he’s President now and hasn’t changed one bit. In fact, he’s gotten worse. And if it continues, he could be removed from office. Words matter and, as we know, Donald Trump is careless with them. Off-the-cuff remarks may have worked for him during his campaign, but when it comes to the presidency, words need to be carefully crafted in order to achieve certain ends. Especially in regards to dealing with other nations. Diplomacy isn’t a game, and if Trump thinks it is, he’s playing dangerously. Last week, Trump had numerous phone calls with world leaders, as all freshly inaugurated presidents do in their first week in office. There were two in particular that showcased Trump’s ineptitude. After Trump took to Twitter last Thursday, declaring that if Mexico wouldn’t agree to pay for his border wall then they should cancel their upcoming meeting, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto did just that. The day after the cancelation, the two had an hour long phone call where Trump reportedly told Nieto: “You have a bunch of bad hombres down there. You aren’t doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn’t, so I just might send them down to take care of it.”After the AP report was published revealing this excerpt, both the White House and the Mexican government pushed back claiming the comments did not occur. The following morning, the White House reversed course and confirmed that the comments did indeed occur but they were “light-hearted” and came as “part of a discussion about how the United States and Mexico could work collaboratively to combat drug cartels and other criminal elements, and make the border more secure.” I’ll let you decide for yourself whether a threat of invasion is “light-hearted.” On Saturday, President Trump spoke to Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. You would expect that call to go smoothly, seeing how Australia is a strong ally of the U.S. and Trump has no prior friction with Turnbull. Think again. The Washington Post reported that Trump berated Turnbull, bragged about his electoral college win, and abruptly ended the phone call. At one point he told Turnbull “this was the worst call by far.” He also shared his thoughts on the refugee agreement between the two nations: “This is the worst deal ever,” Trump fumed as Turnbull attempted to confirm that the United States would honor its pledge to take in 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center. Trump, who one day earlier had signed an executive order temporarily barring the admission of refugees, complained that he was “going to get killed” politically and accused Australia of seeking to export the “next Boston bombers.” After the report of this call was making waves, Trump decided to take to Twitter to double down on his criticism of the refugee swap and falsely call the refugees in the deal “illegal immigrants.” ****************** Donald J. Trump ✔ @realdonaldtrump Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will study this dumb deal! 10:55 PM - 1 Feb 2017 ******************* After less than two weeks in office, Trump’s irrational tendencies have been on full display. There are numerous examples one could look to, but these two circumstances seem to encapsulate all of them. Thin-skinned temperament. Impulsive statements. Baseless claims. Misrepresentations of the truth. Doubling down, then subsequently backtracking on assertions. Those tendencies were all fun and games for his supporters during the campaign but when applied to serious diplomatic situations, it could prove harmful to America’s reputation and relationships with foreign nations. Trump’s erratic behavior has prompted many to call for him to be removed from office. Although some would argue there are already grounds for impeachment (*cough* emoluments), people had a different constitutional method in mind. Why would these events cause one to think there were grounds to remove Trump from office and what in the 25th amendment could allow this, you ask? Most people know of the 25th amendment for it’s first three sections, which involve (1) the transfer of power from the President to the Vice President in case of death or resignation, (2) the nomination of a Vice President in case of a vacancy, and (3) the President voluntarily transferring power over to the Vice President. All 3 have been invoked in the past. The first three times the 25th amendment were invoked was the use of Sections 1 and 2 during the scandals of the Nixon Administration. The last three times were temporary invocations of section 3, when past President’s had medical procedures. But there is a fourth section that has yet to be invoked. Section 4 of the 25th amendment reads as follows:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. CONTINUE READING: rantt.com/donald-trump-is-unstable-and-he-could-be-removed-from-office-129f5c3ef1e0#.n5v9ijicv
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Post by skywalker on Feb 4, 2017 19:47:49 GMT -6
More wishful and delusional thinking by the democrats. Trump is prez and everybody is stuck with him for at least the next four years...if not longer.
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Post by randy on Feb 6, 2017 0:34:58 GMT -6
Lost my first attempt to post just gone. People have to think about the fact that things like Gettysberg Antietam, Shilo, Fredricksberg etc really did happen here in the USA. Actions have reactions and can explode out of control in a real world Things can get out of control when emotions rule the streets.
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Post by randy on Feb 11, 2017 21:17:26 GMT -6
If there is high treason is there low treason. Yes there is it is disloyalty to your employer. Your boss at work at one time could have you arrested for dialoyalty and imprisoned for it. I have read something interesting about the Supreme Court justices. it might have been in the Federalist papers. the founding fathers recognized judges can be corrupt as in England and they did not intend for the country to be ruled by a committee of nine little kings holding office by devine right. The justices can be impeached. for many years I believed that the justices were untouchable. Not so they can be impeached. It just has not been done yet and I am sure that they would rule such it is unconstitutional to protect their royal status. Most everyone is believing a lie I could get on a roll here like why no protestants are on the Supreme Court
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Post by randy on Feb 20, 2017 1:00:39 GMT -6
Much is in the news lately about a soft coup or govt take over by some sort of force in reality. Does a soft coup use nerf guns or what. Is there soft treason? Hey dont mind me it is a soft coup Ill just slide in one day like an oily snake and you will wake and Ill be in charge instead of the elected govt in a soft coup. I have never before read of a soft coup. Way back in 1958 as a kid resolved only to read non fiction so I read alot of history over the decades and I have never once read of the term soft coup. If the left tries a soft coup and Trump supporters rally to Trump what them is the likely thing to happen unfortunately. One shot like at Lexington would be all that it would take and tne ball would be opened. This is what is the real potential in all this open war. People have become so delusional as to think they can just slide into power no fuss no muss. It is a cloud kookoo land to use a German term wolkenkookoosheimat. Regardless of how you view Trump to risk open war to support a fantasy is insanity in its self. Treason is treason.
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Post by jcurio on Feb 20, 2017 11:03:26 GMT -6
Treason is treason. _____
Oh yeah. But I don't know how my neighbor, right here at home, defines it.
So, my next, REAL, honest - to - GOD question for YOu, Randy, IS:
"What kind of telepathical message would you send to our Prez.?" Don't you think , that IF people are able to do SR-V at any moment, at any time, that these people are attempting this stuff DAILY, on important people? Can you imagine?
I'm wondering if THIS is what "sensitive" people are getting "whiffs" of every day? And the "level" of it being possibly maintained?
I'm thinking of Lois and her headaches before seismic disturbances.
And I know, you are not going to answer any direct questions from me. I'm going to keep trying. 😅
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Post by randy on Feb 25, 2017 23:14:41 GMT -6
My glosrious post was erased three times
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