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Post by jcurio on Apr 4, 2017 12:22:12 GMT -6
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Post by casper on May 10, 2017 21:05:43 GMT -6
What kind of a stupid theory is this? It doesn't disprove that ghosts exist cuz they do exist. If they don't exist then how come people can see them? How come I can see them?? Huh Mr smarty pants scientist?? Has that CERN corridor thingy detected human spirits? People have to have spirits cuz if they didn't they wouldn't die. Bodys don't just quit working for the heck of it. They have a spirit keeping them alive and when they die the spirit leaves. Did that silly machine detect all those spirits that left? Nope! Which means it can't detect everything. If it could it would detect spirits and ghosts and god too. Has the machine detected god?? NOPE!! Does that mean that god doesn't exist?? NOPE!!! It just means the machine is not as all mighty and powerful as they think it is. There could be energy and stuff out there that they can't even imagine yet. People need to quit thinking they are gods and that their machines are all mighty cuz they aren't.
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Post by casper on May 10, 2017 21:17:41 GMT -6
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Post by casper on May 10, 2017 21:18:26 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on May 10, 2017 21:48:20 GMT -6
Dude...chill. It's just one guy's opinion. You don't have to start making plans to wage war on the hadron collider.
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Post by swamprat on May 11, 2017 15:47:13 GMT -6
Casper, you gotta understand, workin' with atoms and electrons and stuff, these scientists are up tight. They drink a lot.....
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 9:51:56 GMT -6
there's no room in the Standard Model of Physics for a substance or medium that can carry on our information after death, (from the article I posted) --------
Hello? Are you all ONLY THINKING OF LIFE AFTER DEATH? 😬 😂 😵
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 9:53:45 GMT -6
(it's only just one womans' opinion)
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Post by skywalker on May 12, 2017 19:07:51 GMT -6
Casper has a conniption fit when anybody says ghosts aren't real. He did make a good point though. There are other forms of energy out there that people don't know about. Like psychic energy for instance. Nobody has ever been able to scientifically measure or observe it but it works somehow.
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 20:20:38 GMT -6
He DID make a good point for "other".
~sigh~ aaaaaaaaaaargh!
My point is, people are SO concerned with "proving life after death".
Our "death", APPEARS to result in an inanimate body, that under correct conditions, decomposes into something else, that MAY give off a slightly different ? than potting soil.
Why, does anyone expect that little pile of ash to "get up and walk" in its present form?
Let's go ahead and name several "life forms" on this Earth, that can be burnt, moldy, infested with man-eating creatures, etc., that get up in their "changed" form, and put out the same "energy reading" that they/IT did before.
Are we talking vampires? Zombies?
I agree that "ghosts" and other things on this Earth can put out "something" that can be detected by Human machines.
Why do people insist that life after death MUST be repeated (albeit in a different than original form) somewhere on this Earth?
Especially now, with all the scientific proof of a very vast galaxy!
THAT is asking too much for a "prison planet theory", IMO.
Simple logic tells us that any human is capable of lying. IF humans are the only specie giving off a certain type of energy, AND able to talk, this narrows down the possibilities of ANY type of "truth" telling; about anything.
I'm just asking, for people to consider, that "ghosts" aren't energy left over from former humans...
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 20:44:49 GMT -6
If we assume that the energy that sustains ghosts isn't an entirely new substance or medium, but carries on from when we were living, then this mysterious force controlling the particles that make up our cells would have been detected in the Large Hadron Collider by now. -------------------- Another quote from the article I posted above. He uses the word "assume" and then "this mysterious force". Huh? ? To me, AGAIN, we are seeing that old problem that got Galeo tortured.....and AGAIN, I see why people lose faith in "scientists being scientific"....., Try to not let it get to you, Casper! Just because someones' idea of what a "ghost" IS, doesn't work with their theory.... how does that mean it doesn't exist??
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 20:50:11 GMT -6
Instead, he says it directly contradicts the one of the most rigorously tested and fundamental laws of the Universe we have - the second law of thermodynamics.
The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system always increases over time.
Entropy is a measure of the randomness or disorder within a closed or isolated system, and the second law of thermodynamics states that as usable energy is lost, chaos increases - and without extra energy being put into a system, that progression towards disorder can never be reversed.
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 21:04:54 GMT -6
LAST BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST:
"So how does that apply to ghosts?
Because we can't touch and interact with them, ghosts can't be made of matter, but instead of energy.
And if energy is necessarily lost within every system - particularly if they're doing anything that requires using more of it, such as moving, emitting light, or making spooky sounds - it would be impossible for them to maintain their existence for any significant period of time." ------------- "Ghosts" SEEM to be able to touch us, give us feelings, and sometimes SEEM to interact with us!
And DUH! Anyone seen a "ghost" that stays in "humanly readable existence" for hours in a row?? And, go so far as to be able to say "I'm maintaining my own existence, but for only this length of time."
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Seriously. This guy is doing some double-speak (pretty common these days).
Basically, as you said, Casper. More than stupid.
Now, I've got to go look up something I heard about YEARS ago.
The "god particle". Now, where to look........ 🙃
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 21:11:38 GMT -6
en·tro·py ˈentrəpē/ noun 1. PHYSICS a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system. 2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder. "a marketplace where entropy reigns supreme" synonyms: deterioration, degeneration, crumbling, decline, degradation, decomposition, breaking down, collapse; More *************
LACK OF ORDER OR PREDICTABILITY (hmmmmmm.......)
Pretty good "explanation" for ghosts (and other such things). 😁
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Post by jcurio on May 12, 2017 21:43:05 GMT -6
Bodys don't just quit working for the heck of it. They have a spirit keeping them alive and when they die the spirit leaves Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7006/cern-lhc-ghosts?page=1#ixzz4gvPXCdao___________ If you don't hate me already..... Let me rephrase you a bit - I tend to try to turn things round 😉 On a different subject, Are scientists trying to "make a body" that "works" without a spirit? Is anyone "scientific" concerned about the "after-life" of a clone?? In other words, does a clone have a "ghost" some day? Just how long can we keep a fully developed human "alive" on a machine, when the person has no brain activity? What is the longest time a human has been in a coma (sometimes medically induced), and "woken back up" ? I have no doubt that scientists have no "trouble" or qualms in defining the human body by KNOWN particles. I wouldn't doubt if "readings" changed between bodies kept alive by machines: comparing one brain dead and one in a coma that is NOT brain-dead- and so some "scientist" making "calculations"..... more impressive than weighing a body at the moment of death. STILL, doesn't give anybody any proof of the "after-life". _______ Why is CERN putting out stooopid stuff? Billion (and trillions, etc.) expensive machine; using some sort of "scientists humor"? So, I agree with Swampys' assessments also.......
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Post by jcurio on May 13, 2017 11:46:43 GMT -6
Note: trying to remember, right now, how I FELT, when I posted this cern article.
Was I laughing? Was I irritated?
I don't know. 🤗
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Post by casper on May 23, 2017 18:24:22 GMT -6
"On a different subject, Are scientists trying to "make a body" that "works" without a spirit? Is anyone "scientific" concerned about the "after-life" of a clone?? In other words, does a clone have a "ghost" some day?" Of course a clone has a ghost. If it's alive its got to have a spirit. It doesn't matter where the body comes from. The body is just the vehicle the ghost rides around in. Everything that's alive has a spirit and when it dies the spirit can stick around and be a ghost if it wants to. It doesn't have to tho. I just hope it does.
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