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Post by paulette on Oct 16, 2017 22:46:30 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Oct 19, 2017 11:27:17 GMT -6
More like I wish that he was alive for people to "make him feel good" about all the hard work he did. đ
Funny how no one else can interpret (even as a fake) the stuff he did, instead of trying to "disprove" him.
Also funny how God "uses people" . đ
I hope that wherever Stitchin is, he gets to know that people might be taking him a bit more seriously.
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Post by paulette on Oct 21, 2017 21:56:00 GMT -6
He was a scholar. Most scholars are not surprised that the world doesn't get them.
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Oct 21, 2017 23:42:18 GMT -6
I'm not so sure it's Nabiru or the Anuki he was so sure of...but a planet at least.
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Post by harte on Oct 25, 2017 18:52:56 GMT -6
He was a scholar. Most scholars are not surprised that the world doesn't get them. In no way was he a scholar. He was a journalist and an editor, until he invented a cash cow he could use to milk the igannant. Regarding this 9th planet, from the link: This planet, assuming it exists, never gets closer to the rest of the Solar System than about three times the distance to Pluto from the Sun. Are you even aware of what Sitchin claimed for his "Nibiru?" Harte
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Oct 25, 2017 19:02:06 GMT -6
Harte...I don't know you and you obviously don't know Paulette. Please treat people with respect here...we all have the right to our belief's and opinions. Tks
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Post by paulette on Oct 26, 2017 22:09:43 GMT -6
Whatwouldyousuggest - There is justification in what Harte posted. I was surprised that Wikipedia had a strongly disparaging write-up about him. I had seen a documentary done when he was close to the end of his life - he was in a library room in his home and had had texts (copies no doubt) of ancient writings in various languages. Shelves and shelves of them. I'm not sure anyone can be said to "understand" cuniform Sumerian writing. Sitchin was curious and self taught. He did have a university degree in journalism which mean he could express himself well and go after the facts. As we all know, there are no university studies in UFOology or ancient history before the languages we are familiar with. I don't really literally believe in the ideal of Nibiru as a traveling planet that could sustain life. As a hollowed out perhaps life-sustaining place within, that could be used as a base - maybe. But it is interesting that there is another planet with a very unique orbit out there.
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Oct 26, 2017 23:10:00 GMT -6
A lot of people believed in what Stitchin had to say, I never was one of them...when something 'feels' too far fetched to me, I can't get behind it..never could. This is a place where we don't have to justify what we believe or half the people here would be laughed out of dodge..me included I came back because someone made me feel small and unimportant and that was stupid of me. I wouldn't want anyone else to feel that way in this place.
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Post by harte on Oct 27, 2017 15:27:25 GMT -6
Harte...I don't know you and you obviously don't know Paulette. Please treat people with respect here...we all have the right to our belief's and opinions. Tks There's a definition for "scholar." All we really know about Sitchin is that he was a writer. The post I replied to did not say "it is my opinion that Sitchin was a scholar." MY opinion is that, when false ideas are posted as fact, they need to be corrected. Said correction is in no way disrespectful. It is merely necessary. Harte
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Post by jcurio on Oct 29, 2017 21:19:47 GMT -6
scholarly Synonyms Synonyms erudite, knowledgeable, learned, lettered, literate, educated, well-read _______[____
But he was âscholarlyâ đ
Even if some people consider his works pseudo-scientific, wouldnât you say that the man is literate, educated..... enough to be believable.
This âplanet theoryâ is not his own.
And is it possible there ARE people who can âreadâ ancient languages, but keep a large part of their knowledge a secret?
One thing I ask myself about âEarth picturesâ that can only be seen from a certain height- is it easier to believe in some sort of flying contraption of the past, or easier to believe in an OBE?
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Post by paulette on Oct 29, 2017 23:47:54 GMT -6
A lot of people believed in what Stitchin had to say, I never was one of them...when something 'feels' too far fetched to me, I can't get behind it..never could. This is a place where we don't have to justify what we believe or half the people here would be laughed out of dodge..me included I came back because someone made me feel small and unimportant and that was stupid of me. I wouldn't want anyone else to feel that way in this place. Whatwould you suggest - first, I'm glad you are back. Second, thank you for speaking up for me and all of us. We, elders, have weathered the Mufon board and then the next one (my mind cannot access that file easily but the one moderator was harsh and disinterested in subjective accounts or theories). And then here. What a long strange trip its been...I feel comfortable here and I can exchange with people who question or don't agree as long as we hold civility. If not, it becomes an exercise in talking to trolls, something I'm not interested in. But thank you. Third - I'm sorry you felt that that someone here made you feel small and unimportant. You call yourself stupid - I say that we make ourselves vulnerable here and all of us who have a story of something unexplicable happening to them (or many stories)have learned the hard way not to talk about it. So this place is a sanctuary of sorts. I certainly don't accept as true everything I read anywhere including here. I don't have to "believe" people's stories HOWEVER I have learned that just because I feel unwilling to consider something or even if I am triggered by what people write here, that doesn't mean I can't take the time to read posts and stash away information. You never know when you find a piece of your own puzzle among the pieces that others present here. Some of us are struggling with outside stressors - health issues, depressed moods, health of one's partner issues. Change of life - I'm 70 in 2018. How long can I function well enough to keep working? Do I want to keep working even if I can? We bring these things to this place as well. And for that, I am grateful.
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Oct 29, 2017 23:54:32 GMT -6
Well we're talking about the orbit of one new planet in the solar system. It apparently isn't Stitchin's Nibiru and I suppose the Annunaki aren't about to come bounding down to enslave the population. 'scratching my head' wasn't that supposed to be happening...last month?? Anyway. Not to say it isn't out there somewhere. Not to say that the man isn't right...at least in some aspects of his claim. There are a LOT of men and women out there with a lot of ideas and opinions. I like Jacques Vallee's theories personally...they happen to collide with mine somewhat It's also apparent around this forum that you're not going to find a lot of 'evidence' to back up a lot of encounter or abductions tales. We don't necessarily form opinions based on facts...not necessary because what is dabbled in here...doesn't lend itself well to selfies or ejected dilithium crystals or anything else in the way of 'proof' or evidence of existence. But we keep hoping and figure we're at least a step of the game because we have open enough minds to accept what everyone else needs proof of.
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Post by plutronus on Oct 30, 2017 9:02:31 GMT -6
I'm not so sure it's Nabiru or the Anuki he was so sure of...but a planet at least. whatwouldyousuggest , et al, As I understand things: Nabiru is a planet that circum-navigates two stars and is known as a "binary transitor". An astronomial idea that was not considered until first read about in the Rig Vedas, and which was later confirmed via astronomical telescopic studies. Nibiru is often confused with another planet known as "planet X". The cited nineth planet, unless it is moving, can not be the fabled Nibiru, as described in the Rig Vedas (oldest intact writing in existence, scribed in Sanskrit). Nibiru depending on translation, it would need to move fairly rapidly, as the Rig Veda story states that each complete circum-navigation cycle to 26,000 years. A number which seems to corrolate with the seemingly periodic destruction of previous (?technical?...Atlantean, Lemurian, Ben Salem, Atarian) Earth civilizations of the past. The Reptilians, who first colonized Earth (apparently) were known as the "Annunaki", and later were the gene source during the laboratory creation of Humans. They were referred to as the "Gods" in the Old Testament. An excellent scholarly information source may be had here: poloneum.com/FLYING%20SERPENTS%20AND%20DRAGONS.pdfThe book was written by Dr. R. A. Boulay (deceased in the early 2000s), a pre-history Ph.D. academician achaeologist; a multiple language speaker/reader and was a student of ancient dead languages; a professor of cryptology, a 17yr instructor for the US National Cryptologic School in Washington DC, who went out in search of early Human history and found that Reptilians...Dragons created Humanity. While I don't fully agree with everything my associate and friend Dr. Sasha Lessin promotes, he does provide another excellent source of information regarding the Annunaki/Human relationship and much information is available either via his wonderfully informative books and from Sasha's website at: extraterrestrialcontact.com/?s=Annunakiplutronus
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Post by plutronus on Oct 30, 2017 11:39:28 GMT -6
He was a scholar. Most scholars are not surprised that the world doesn't get them. In no way was he a scholar. He was a journalist and an editor, until he invented a cash cow he could use to milk the igannant. . . >>>deletia<<< . . Are you even aware of what Sitchin claimed for his "Nibiru?" Harte Harto, What is a "scholar"? I know a few folks who became scholars of subjects, simply because they studied their subject so much. I'm one of those people and apparently, especially considering his deeds in fact, so was Zacharia Sitchin. And since when do some folks who milk the cash-cow become a publically denigrated person simply because they did so? Look at that skunk Zuckerman or that other business rat, Gates (when he wasn't out right stealing or wiping out other competitor businesses using unethical and unsafe [carpel tunnel syndrome] adversarial business processes). Both of them are publically acclaimed, coveted people, yet they milked the cash-cow, and still are. Mr. Sitchin was just merely sharing his learned subjects and his points of view. So what is a scholar? From: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scholar"Etymology From Middle English scolar, scolare, scoler, scolere (also scholer), from Old English scĹlere (âscholar, learnerâ), from Late Latin scholÄris, from schola (âschoolâ), from Ancient Greek ĎĎοΝξáżÎżÎ˝ (skholeĂŽon), from ĎĎοΝΎ (skholá¸, âspare time, leisure", later, "conversations and the knowledge gained through them during free time; the places where these conversations took placeâ), equivalent to school +â -er. Compare Saterland Frisian SkĂśiler, Middle Low German schČŤlĂŚre, schČŤlere, schČŤler (> modern German Low German SchĂśler), Dutch scholier, German SchĂźler." So, newbie to our little group, what does scholar mean? Somebody who reads alot, and sitchin, was a journalist, probably one of the few that actually presents truth, instead of fake news. I can understand your apparent disdain for journalists, just look at the so-called 'news' in the world today. How many of the five 'Ws' are accurately given or even present in any news story in print or on TV? Basic Journalism that addresses all the possible issues (I learned this in journalism class): Who What When Where Why plutronus ps, I h8 flashy blinky mentally noisy avatars.
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Oct 30, 2017 22:10:14 GMT -6
whereas that intensely wicked toothy grin of yours...is infinitely charming LOL
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Post by paulette on Oct 30, 2017 23:17:37 GMT -6
Dialogue! I like this. Plutronus, I bookmarked some of your suggested sources. It's too late to start on this now.
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Post by harte on Oct 31, 2017 4:18:20 GMT -6
In no way was he a scholar. He was a journalist and an editor, until he invented a cash cow he could use to milk the igannant. . . >>>deletia<<< . . Are you even aware of what Sitchin claimed for his "Nibiru?" Harte Harto, What is a "scholar"? I know a few folks who became scholars of subjects, simply because they studied their subject so much. I'm one of those people and apparently, especially considering his deeds in fact, so was Zacharia Sitchin. And since when do some folks who milk the cash-cow become a publically denigrated person simply because they did so? Look at that skunk Zuckerman or that other business rat, Gates (when he wasn't out right stealing or wiping out other competitor businesses using unethical and unsafe [carpel tunnel syndrome] adversarial business processes). Both of them are publically acclaimed, coveted people, yet they milked the cash-cow, and still are. Mr. Sitchin was just merely sharing his learned subjects and his points of view. So what is a scholar? From: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scholar"Etymology From Middle English scolar, scolare, scoler, scolere (also scholer), from Old English scĹlere (âscholar, learnerâ), from Late Latin scholÄris, from schola (âschoolâ), from Ancient Greek ĎĎοΝξáżÎżÎ˝ (skholeĂŽon), from ĎĎοΝΎ (skholá¸, âspare time, leisure", later, "conversations and the knowledge gained through them during free time; the places where these conversations took placeâ), equivalent to school +â -er. Compare Saterland Frisian SkĂśiler, Middle Low German schČŤlĂŚre, schČŤlere, schČŤler (> modern German Low German SchĂśler), Dutch scholier, German SchĂźler." So, newbie to our little group, what does scholar mean? Somebody who reads alot, and sitchin, was a journalist, probably one of the few that actually presents truth, instead of fake news. I can understand your apparent disdain for journalists, just look at the so-called 'news' in the world today. How many of the five 'Ws' are accurately given or even present in any news story in print or on TV? Basic Journalism that addresses all the possible issues (I learned this in journalism class): Who What When Where Why plutronus ps, I h8 flashy blinky mentally noisy avatars. A journalist can be a scholar, in Journalism.
I would think that, for one to be considered a scholar, one would need not to simply make up crap from whole cloth like Sitchin did.
There is no mention of any planet Nibiru in any ancient text, unlike what Sitchin claimed.
Of course, he made that claim before it was easy to check Sumerian texts. Today, they're on the internet.
Nibiru is a Sumerian word, though. It indicates a place of crossing, like a river ford, a gate, a door, etc.
There was even a city by that name - built at a river crossing. It was also called "Enlil's City." The city is today called Nuffar. It's in Iraq.
Sitchin fabricated several other lies concerning ancient Sumer as well.
Additionally, he couldn't read cuneiform - or at least adamantly refused to demonstrate that ability.
I don't know about other people, but personally I consider people that lie to me for money to be con men, not scholars.
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Post by jcurio on Oct 31, 2017 9:53:09 GMT -6
I don't know about other people, but personally I consider people that lie to me for money to be con men, not scholars. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7364/sitchen-right#ixzz4x6IY3dcq________________ Oh yeah! Agree with you there........! As for what you are saying, I hope that I can âresearchâ the same as you; like what the word âniburuâ means. (Not that it, that particular fact, will sway me. After all, both my first and last name MEAN something, that doesnât always FIT me....) I guess, Iâm trying not to offend, but I want to know WHY I should believe what you say? Should Stitchin be âobviousâ to ME? Bad example, but just say, âKevin Trudeauâ. Wrote some books about health (or something). I still run across his books at thrift stores.....um... I guess the guy was prosecuted for his ideas? The book I picked up at a thrift store by Stitchin was 12th planet. Yah, thought it was hard-to-read fiction. Ancient man? Lots of questions. ____________ I donât THINK I will be prosecuted for my list of ideas about âextra-terrestrialsâ. But itâs always in the back of my mind, that all the proof needed for my family to âlock me upâ, is right here. âšď¸đŹ They must have some need of me, this side of the grass, and outside of an institute. I may have a few more years of servitude left in me!
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 1, 2017 14:49:20 GMT -6
Is a lie...the same thing as just not being able to prove something? If so....well....what does that make most of us?
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Post by jcurio on Nov 2, 2017 8:15:59 GMT -6
Is a lie...the same thing as just not being able to prove something? If so....well....what does that make most of us? I referenced this when I first started my own personal thread? That even a prominent publication insinuated that people like us had âtoo much imaginationâ. When a child is lying, isnât that the way their parent tries to excuse the lying??
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Post by jcurio on Nov 2, 2017 9:11:06 GMT -6
Harte said: people that lie to me for money are con men.
Insinuating that Stitchin lies. And that he purposefully lies to make money.
IF WE are lying, what do we do it for?
And, even more concerning, do some people mix a few lies in with the truth?
Iâve never been comfortable about broad, all-covering statements of people. Such as âStitchin is not a scholarâ. đ
One reason why a person should NOT talk about someone else..... but I was looking for Harte to tell me a bit more about themselves?
Iâm not âtransparentâ on here, but I do make an effort to explain why I know what I know. đ I tell about aspects of life that I have been involved in. Iâve worked at staying truthful; not adding or leaving out the least bit of detail about my experiences. And if I recall something different, I try to come back to whatever I have shared.
My definition of âlyingâ is well-defined. I know people that will say âI have a staff meeting at such and such time, â when they are meeting a friend (who is not part of their staff team) for lunch.
Why did this person feel the need to lie (or embellish)?
Why is it so hard to just say âI have a meeting today, and I donât know how long it will takeâ ??
Meeting a friend is still a âmeetingâ. đ
Yeah, I know. People do this sort of thing ALL THE TIME, and donât consider it âlyingâ.
How does it look a week later, when the person says âI met a friend for lunch on Tuesdayâ, but they had told you that they had a staff meeting over lunch time last Tuesday? Would you say something about the difference?
Could the person then immediately respond with âoh, the staff meeting got changed, so I met a friend insteadâ.
Things DO change. But if you donât ask.....
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 2, 2017 10:32:56 GMT -6
People lie...to make themselves feel more important...for some gain (financial or other) or to 'embellish' an opinion...make it more enticing perhaps. I was abducted..I have no proof...am I a liar? I mark Stitchin down as
unproven theory...and who decides if he is a scholar or not? Does a scholar have to pass some exam to make him/her so? According to ole Webster :a person who attends a school or studies under a teacher :pupil
2 a :a person who has done advanced study in a special field
b :a learned person
3 :a holder of a scholarship
I like 2 a and b
Just because one doesn't personally believe in the man's theory doesn't mean it has no validation somewhere. Maybe it just hasn't arrived yet.
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Post by harte on Nov 2, 2017 16:53:11 GMT -6
Is a lie...the same thing as just not being able to prove something? If so....well....what does that make most of us? No, a lie is a lie. Like the lies Sitchin told about the Anunnaki. About the Great Pyramid. About the Jupiter Temple at Baalbek. About a planet called "Nibiru." I could go on, but why? Harte
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 2, 2017 23:12:46 GMT -6
How do you know these things do not exist? Can you prove they do not? In this universe....there is so much more than meets the eye. You cannot 'know' that the annunkai don't exist or did not. You cannot 'know' that Nibiru doesn't exist somewhere, some when... YOU believe Stitchin lied to make a buck...maybe he did. A LOT of writers of paranormal non fiction have done just that. This is a field that invites speculation and opinion because it has very little basis for proof. Speaking of aliens in general. Ancient aliens ...modern aliens ...doesn't matter there is just not tangible proof but a LOT of people willing to fill in the blanks for others on speculation. But there sure are a LOT of bread crumbs along the way. People have had many encounters or been abducted...going to reduce all of that down to lies too? I question a lot of writers myself because their theories might not land close to my own doesn't mean I'm right and they are wrong. Theories abound..that we live in a simulation much like the Matrix...etc etc. I figure, just about everything is possible and keeping an open mind...is a great idea.
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Post by plutronus on Nov 5, 2017 3:02:44 GMT -6
A journalist can be a scholar, in Journalism.
I would think that, for one to be considered a scholar, one would need not to simply make up crap from whole cloth like Sitchin did.
There is no mention of any planet Nibiru in any ancient text, unlike what Sitchin claimed.
Of course, he made that claim before it was easy to check Sumerian texts. Today, they're on the internet.
Nibiru is a Sumerian word, though. It indicates a place of crossing, like a river ford, a gate, a door, etc.
There was even a city by that name - built at a river crossing. It was also called "Enlil's City." The city is today called Nuffar. It's in Iraq.
Sitchin fabricated several other lies concerning ancient Sumer as well.
Additionally, he couldn't read cuneiform - or at least adamantly refused to demonstrate that ability.
I don't know about other people, but personally I consider people that lie to me for money to be con men, not scholars.
Harte harte >>A journalist can be a scholar, in Journalism. Says who? >>There is no mention of any planet Nibiru in any ancient text, unlike what Sitchin claimed. Actually there are drawings dipicting Nibiru from the Rig Vedas. Regarding Mr. Sitchin's assertions, I can not make comment, as I have not read his works, nor have I scrutinized his claims, as apparently you have? >>I would think that, for one to be considered a scholar... Not intending to challenge 'tit for tat', however this is apparently your opinion, and frankly you have not established your info pedigree for me to consider your opinion worthy. >>personally I consider people that lie to me for money to be con men... Ya'd be better to stop watching TV news because its really full of cooked up spin-doctord bull-sh.it....err crap. (Speaking of crap, ya ever hear the story of how the word "crap" became associated with Human fece? Its an interesting story about the craper. I heard the story on a night TV talk show that interviewed regular series TV cast members interview. A fellow in the UK invented a popular version of the so-called "water closet", an inside the home, toilet. A water tank mounted up high in a closet having a hanging pull-handle on a length of rope, along with a foot operated water/odor 'trap' valve located in the floor, beneath the toilet which isolated the stink wafting up from the connected sewer pipe below. A version of that configuration exists today in all toilets. The inventor's name was "Craper", and the public soon associated Craper's toilet with being the 'craper', and the shortened phrase, 'crap' became synonomous with "sh.it". When the Craper family moved to the US, they changed their name from Craper to Draper, their company of the same name still exists today which manufactures power-flush toilets. The individual who revealed this story was a cast member, (her married name was "Brown" as I recall) of the now defunct US Military/Vietnamese medical services themed TV series, "China Beach".) How would one transliterate those notions 'across' many centuries? As for accuracy in transliterations, I suspect that you haven't done too much of that yourself, else you'd know that there are many so-called politically acceptable academician 'scholars' who have made hugely erroneous errors in their interpretations of ancient language texts, the subjects of which are believed to be mostly understood, yet still, the interpretations have been deemed 'faulty' by succeding 'experts'. The Bible is one example. Deletions, mistranslations, opinionated creation of ideas, you name it, yet many in the World believe every word of it and are clueless about the truth. Another example are the intellectual schemas of the much written about, by all sorts of experts, the Mystical Qabalah. Yep, it is true that the halls of literatary art are littered with the mis-translated works of the dead-wrong. I am studying Sinatic Hebrew so that I may read and personally understand ancient text without having to rely on someone else's understanding of subjects. Can you read Sanskrit? Or Sumerian? Unless you yourself can read those, how do you know any of the presumed 'accurate' transliterated texts are in fact accurate or inaccurate? Because someone on the InterNet implied it or told you so? Did those implications outright make the claim that Mr. Sitchin "lied"? Or is that just more of your critical opinionated presumptions? Transliteration is more than just mere translation of words, and is the reason tract translations are known as being 'transliteration' instead, as there are cultural, sociological, ideological as well as the neurological evolutions of the state of the writers and their enviroment of those times, and it is that which need be transliterated so that one can truly connote the intended but often hidden meaning of the tracts into modern thought-space. So you might try to be a little less critical of others, especially considering that, it is very likely, you yourself are unable to personally verify the veracity of the tracts you claim are lies. You have no more clue as to authentic accuracy unless, you can actually read and understand Sumerian mindset and-or that of the Sanskrit author or any of the other ancient languages authors' writings, than any other who also unable to read the texts directly. I'm a Reptilian contact survivor...an experiencer, and several folks who have expended time with me privately, have at some juncture made similar statements that I have read Sitchin's books. I have never opened one of those books, although I did, later after my experiences, see several volumes on a friend's book shelf. Apparently some of the experiences I have shared are elucidated in some similar manner and are described by that 'liar' Sitchin. There are unobvious things happening, while many academic scholar 'experts' remain mostly or entirely clueless. Harte, please do not feel offended, but around here in the TEOR, we speak of the things that we believe, suspect and-or know as being a form of reality if not reality, and whether or not those things are accepted by academia, scholars, 'experts', or left-hemis, etc. However, I've been in a veritable sh.it-storm, that few either belive, understand or accept. It was very compelling to me. If someone had suggested just a few years ago that I would be the promoter of some of the wildest seemingly bull-sh.it stories ever shared on the planet, I'd have scoffed in their face and thought them to be delusional idiots. Experience can awaken us to other truths. A fellow that I met on the (then open) SETI-L, a brilliant engineer/scientist, in my opinion, taught us all, those of us who would listen, that the less one knows about a subject the quieter one should be with the fast opinion. Regards, plutronus
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 5, 2017 10:54:23 GMT -6
Are we going to trust........a SCIENTIST? ?
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 6, 2017 10:08:10 GMT -6
Those kids who committed suicide were only about 15 miles from me. Marshall Applewhite (along with Bonnie Nettles) the leader, went on Coast to Coast with some altered pictures of the ufo in the comets tail but they had been planning this and claiming there was a space ship coming for them since 1975. Applewhite was dangerous and caused the deaths of 39 men and women. Harold Camping was just plain and simple a religious nut...at least he wasn't advocating suicide as a means to reach heaven. He was just stupid enough to figure he could predict the 'rapture'. He got 2 tries at it then he had a stroke. Coincidence? I feel bad for the people who gave away their possessions but at least they came away with their lives (with one or two exceptions). Brings to mind Jim Jones and his little suicide cult...women, men and children drinking cyanide laced kool aid..some 900 followers. Nibiru wasn't nearly as dramatic compared to some Where strong men lead...the gullible will be led.
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Post by jcurio on Nov 7, 2017 15:33:47 GMT -6
Yep, it is true that the halls of literatary art are littered with the mis-translated works of the dead-wrong. I am studying Sinatic Hebrew so that I may read and personally understand ancient text without having to rely on someone else's understanding of subjects. Can you read Sanskrit? Or Sumerian? Unless you yourself can read those, how do you know any of the presumed 'accurate' transliterated texts are in fact accurate or inaccurate? Because someone on the InterNet implied it or told you so? Did those implications outright make the claim that Mr. Sitchin "lied"? Or is that just more of your critical opinionated presumptions? Transliteration is more than just mere translation of words, and is the reason tract translations are known as being 'transliteration' instead, as there are cultural, sociological, ideological as well as the neurological evolutions of the state of the writers and their enviroment of those times, and it is that which need be transliterated so that one can truly connote the intended but often hidden meaning of the tracts into modern thought-space. So you might try to be a little less critical of others, especially considering that, it is very likely, you yourself are unable to personally verify the veracity of the tracts you claim are lies. You have no more clue as to authentic accuracy unless, you can actually read and understand Sumerian mindset and-or that of the Sanskrit author or any of the other ancient languages authors' writings, than any other who also unable to read the texts directly. I'm a Reptilian contact survivor...an experiencer, and several folks who have expended time with me privately, have at some juncture made similar statements that I have read Sitchin's books. I have never opened one of those books, although I did, later after my experiences, see several volumes on a friend's book shelf. Apparently some of the experiences I have shared are elucidated in some similar manner and are described by that 'liar' Sitchin. There are unobvious things happening, while many academic scholar 'experts' remain mostly or entirely clueless. Read more: theedgeofreality.proboards.com/thread/7364/sitchen-right#ixzz4xmds1tTjDEAD; and wrong. Muhahahahaha! How I find you so funny; Iâll never know. đ You give me hope. !! Youâre still alive, youâre a bit older than me, and you are tackling the Hebrew language??! BTW, I never read very deeply past a few pages into that â12 th planetâ book. Now youâve piqued my interest? I might actually be able to find experiences close to mine in one of Stitchens books? There IS a reason why we are still alive.
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Post by jcurio on Nov 7, 2017 15:41:39 GMT -6
Those kids who committed suicide were only about 15 miles from me.  Marshall Applewhite (along with Bonnie Nettles) the leader, went on Coast to Coast with some altered pictures of the ufo in the comets tail but they had been planning this and claiming there was a space ship coming for them since 1975.  Applewhite was dangerous and caused the deaths of 39 men and women. Harold Camping was just plain and simple a religious nut...at least he wasn't advocating suicide as a means to reach heaven.  He was just stupid enough to figure he could predict the 'rapture'. He got 2 tries at it then he had a stroke. Coincidence?    I feel bad for the people who gave away their possessions but at least they came away with their lives (with one or two exceptions). Brings to mind Jim Jones and his little suicide cult...women, men and children drinking cyanide laced kool aid..some 900 followers. Nibiru wasn't nearly as dramatic compared to some Where strong men lead...the gullible will be led.   When I was studying Vallee (was that JUST last Fall?) I ran across Applewhite and Nettles as âBo and Peepâ. Someone can argue with me; I donât mind. These names came up with the two women I ~researched (who are also both deceased). Karla Turner and her friend Barbara (the hypnotist?). Anyway, knowing those other names, should make it fairly easy to find out how they started and somehow drew these people to them as âfollowersâ.
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whatwouldyousuggest
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Post by whatwouldyousuggest on Nov 8, 2017 0:27:16 GMT -6
Yes they went from Bo and Peep to Bonnie calling herself Ti and he (Marshall) became Do. Marshall was a musician before he met her..and something about his father's death is said to have unhinged him. They promised followers they would raise their vibration level to join with the aliens in the comet tail. There just are lots of people who want to be led to some magic playground somewhere...so restless and unhappy here that anything might be better.
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