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May 21
Apr 24, 2011 11:58:29 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 11:58:29 GMT -6
So..according to Harold Camping, Jesus returns and the Rapture begins on May 21, 2011. The end of the world follows shortly thereafter October 21, 2011. It's not his first attempt at predicting the Rapture but there are billboards all over the place. This much occurs to me. The bible says (in more than one place) that not even the Angels will know the hour. Man will not nor will the Angels..only God will know. Harold says this doesn't count for 'saved' men. Mind you even the Angels won't know but Harold does. So the object is to terrify people into being saved I guess but that rings sort of false to me. If it's in your heart..it just is. They are so forgetting the entire idea of faith. Now if it all goes down on the 21'st I'll apologize to the man..but I find fault with mortal man thinking he knows what even God's angels don't I think He'd tell them first articles.philly.com/2011-04-20/news/29451455_1_black-hole-killer-asteroids-judgment-dayThere are dozens of articles on it..just google May 21, 2011
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May 21
Apr 24, 2011 14:34:03 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on Apr 24, 2011 14:34:03 GMT -6
I saw a van pass me on the road the other day those dates on it. I figured it was a bunch of nuts proclaiming doom and gloom and death and destruction. And people say that we are the nuts... So if only God knows when the time will come, and this guy claims that he knows, does that mean he is claiming to be God?
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May 21
Apr 24, 2011 16:25:06 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2011 16:25:06 GMT -6
Seems like he's elevating himself a bit anyway LOL
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May 21
Apr 24, 2011 21:00:13 GMT -6
Post by lois on Apr 24, 2011 21:00:13 GMT -6
Scaring people into believing in God.. does not change the man at all. Without understanding what good does it do? Half the world will say they have been saved..I think you come to truth on your own. Bibles says work out your own Salvation.. All the hectic things going on in the world today something has to change or we are doomed. I don't believe that. Most Christians say God will intervene. So this is the now time to intervene..
I admit the time could be now or a hundred years from now. It is a poor way to try and save souls.. scare them to death..It has never worked in the past and it won't right up to the last day.. Jo I miss this article.. but there will be more like it coming that is for sure. Who is ready that is the question.? The bible does say, this generation shall not past away, the times we live in..
Lois
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May 21
Apr 24, 2011 22:33:30 GMT -6
Post by Steve on Apr 24, 2011 22:33:30 GMT -6
Only God chooses the time, not even his son Jesus knows when the call will come. So some foolishly believe then 'a Harold' will know more than God does instead?
Noticed when I logged in here at TEOR today, got a pop-up referring to this May 21 business. Looks like a very viral thread fishing for info here posing as another Christian thing. Cookies? Shields up Mr. Zulu!
Steve
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May 21
Apr 25, 2011 2:35:35 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 2:35:35 GMT -6
~sings~ "Hark the Harold Angels sing... Glory to the newborn king!"
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May 21
Apr 25, 2011 9:57:26 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2011 9:57:26 GMT -6
Gads..a herald named Harold. At any rate it's not Harold's first prediction for the 'end'. I suppose he think's he's doing great salvation things for mankind and that this is his calling as a 'chosen' one. There's something sad in it I think..because the objective is to have faith that God will handle all in His appointed hour (which no man nor the angels will know). Then there is that thing about the 'false prophets'....
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May 21
May 8, 2011 10:12:36 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 8, 2011 10:12:36 GMT -6
I was just reading the thread about Comet Elenin and noticed that on October 20, 2011 the comet is supposed to enter the Earth's orbit and produce a strong gravitational tug on our planet. It's interesting that Harold Camping predicted the world would end just one day later on the 21st. Is it possible he based his predictions on information he has been reading about this comet? Could we have the makings of another Heaven's Gate incident here where a bunch of wackos are going to commit suicide so they can catch a ride on the comet's tail? This should be interesting.
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May 21
May 8, 2011 18:02:01 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 18:02:01 GMT -6
It's a very sad and scary thought Sky..he has followers. I understand that lots of people are 'edgy' right now but instead of being more grounded in their faith they're getting 'wacky'. If I wake up the 22 and half the population is missing and I'm not..I'll feel REALLY dumb..but I'm betting on God not Harold
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May 21
May 8, 2011 18:14:17 GMT -6
Post by Steve on May 8, 2011 18:14:17 GMT -6
Relying on God too Jo.
Steve
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May 21
May 8, 2011 22:32:44 GMT -6
Post by bewildered on May 8, 2011 22:32:44 GMT -6
A great deal of cognitive flim-flam surrounds this subject. The argument you stated in your opening post, Jo, is one which some websites run by devotees seek to refute...by engaging in complete and utter nonsense. I refer, of course, to the claim these devotees trumpet: no numerology was involved in arriving at "the date!" Nope, none at all. They then proceed to engage in numerology in their demonstration of how "the date" was revealed by God to Harold Camping. I mean, the guy's an engineer. That gives him some form of credibility...right? ;D Of course. Naturally, he claimed that God revealed the date of "the rapture" to him before. Then, when his prediction fell flat, he changed his tune somewhat and claimed he had made an error. It's amusing to watch how these people rearrange reality and history in order to fit their beliefs. What was the "rapture" before, in 1994, suddenly becomes the day when Satan was "loosed" for a season. It all reminds me of a child caught in the act of wrongdoing. Watch the mental gyrations they go through in their desperate attempt to avoid being blamed for what they have done. They do not want to face the consequences. They will do whatever it takes, no matter how absurd, in order to get away with it. There is no difference at all between such a child and these people. They engage in histrionics and revel in hysteria in their desperate attempt to be "special" and "God's chosen people." They end up being deluded fools in the end. What's their true desire? Why, they seek vindication for their beliefs, of course. They want people to look on in envy and awe when they are "swept away" by God right before the wicked and evil world gets what's coming to it.
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May 21
May 8, 2011 23:38:06 GMT -6
Post by lois on May 8, 2011 23:38:06 GMT -6
Sky.. when my Mother was a child maybe nine years old, Haleys comet came close to the earth.. She told how everyone thought the world would end. A scientist even killed himself. She said it was daylight out for a couple of weeks. I believe she told me we went through the tail of it. I guess it was close at that.
Lois
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May 21
May 8, 2011 23:40:16 GMT -6
Post by lois on May 8, 2011 23:40:16 GMT -6
Was it 1911? Oh that was The Titanic.. she talked about it also.
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May 21
May 9, 2011 8:57:45 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 9, 2011 8:57:45 GMT -6
Halley's Comet appeared in April of 1910. I had no idea people were panicking because the Earth was passing through the tail. That sounds like an interesting thing to read more about. It's kind of like when people started panicking when the heard the War of the Worlds radio broadcast in 1938. Here's a short little paragraph I found on Wikipedia about when Haley's Comet appeared in 1910: The 1910 approach, which came into view around 20 April, was notable for several reasons: it was the first approach of which photographs exist, and the first for which spectroscopic data were obtained. Furthermore, the comet made a relatively close approach of 0.15AU, making it a spectacular sight. Indeed, on 18 May, the Earth actually passed through the tail of the comet. One of the substances discovered in the tail by spectroscopic analysis was the toxic gas cyanogen, which led astronomer Camille Flammarion to claim that, when Earth passed through the tail, the gas "would impregnate the atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet." His pronouncement led to panicked buying of gas masks and quack "anti-comet pills" and "anti-comet umbrellas" by the public. In reality, as other astronomers were quick to point out, the gas is so diffuse that the world suffered no ill effects from the passage through the tail.
American satirist and writer Mark Twain was born on 30 November 1835, exactly two weeks after the comet's perihelion. In his autobiography, published in 1909, he said,
I came in with Halley's Comet in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest disappointment of my life if I don't go out with Halley's Comet. The Almighty has said, no doubt: 'Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.'
Twain died on 21 April 1910, the day following the comet's subsequent perihelion. The 1985 fantasy film The Adventures of Mark Twain was inspired by the quotation.
Halley's 1910 apparition is distinct from the Great Daylight Comet of 1910, which surpassed Halley in brilliance and was actually visible in broad daylight for a short period, approximately four months before Halley made its appearance." I guess people don't really need an excuse to panic but they always seem to be looking for one.
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May 21
May 9, 2011 9:25:57 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 9:25:57 GMT -6
That seems to be about it Sky. Good grief..the sky is falling we're all about to die from comet dust. I figure..each and every one of us could die in the next half hour walking out the door and tripping, driving on the freeway, starting a gas stove..dozens of little potentials every day. At least a comet would be exciting? I truly believe..that when it IS our time..it is..and fretting about it..won't alter a thing. If we've aligned ourselves with our spiritual beliefs then we already understand we only take a step through a doorway into a next level. I have seen the doorway...I just haven't reached the level needed to enter it. As for Harold and his 'track record' that's a long shot even I wouldn't bet on...and I do like a long shot When it comes to horse races. Holy engineer sounds as plausible as holy politician ;D
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May 21
May 9, 2011 9:30:44 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 9, 2011 9:30:44 GMT -6
Holy Doomsday, Batman! ;D
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May 21
May 9, 2011 10:03:54 GMT -6
Post by lois on May 9, 2011 10:03:54 GMT -6
No not dust.. It was predicted it would hit the earth months ahead. This is what cause the mass hysteria.
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May 21
May 9, 2011 11:05:54 GMT -6
Post by paulette on May 9, 2011 11:05:54 GMT -6
Well, a significant number of people will die on May 21, ditto go missing. I doubt if all the Christians (or even all the doomsday Christians) will be gone the next day but that probably wouldn't change my life too much. Maybe some in-laws would be gone...
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May 21
May 9, 2011 13:47:41 GMT -6
Post by casper on May 9, 2011 13:47:41 GMT -6
This Harold guy is a nut. The Bible says that nobody will know when the world will end...it didn't say nobody will know except Harold the nut.
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May 21
May 9, 2011 14:44:14 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 14:44:14 GMT -6
Well, a significant number of people will die on May 21, ditto go missing. I doubt if all the Christians (or even all the doomsday Christians) will be gone the next day but that probably wouldn't change my life too much. Maybe some in-laws would be gone... ;D
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May 21
May 10, 2011 10:28:00 GMT -6
Post by lois on May 10, 2011 10:28:00 GMT -6
Well, a significant number of people will die on May 21, ditto go missing. I doubt if all the Christians (or even all the doomsday Christians) will be gone the next day but that probably wouldn't change my life too much. Maybe some in-laws would be gone... ;D
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May 21
May 10, 2011 14:23:42 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 10, 2011 14:23:42 GMT -6
I was being facetious about the comet dust Casper..you hit the nail on the head..no one..not angels nor Jesus will know the hour..only God. Harold figures being a Christian is a 'by-pass' around that rule because Harold isn't good at waiting for God to decide it's time. Maybe his motives aren't bad..he's trying to 'save' people and that's got to be worth something (even if it is like black mail)..but to me he's just one more person trying to play God
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May 21
May 17, 2011 22:05:48 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 17, 2011 22:05:48 GMT -6
Only four more days until the Rapture. There is still time to do some good deeds.
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May 21
May 17, 2011 23:53:57 GMT -6
Post by CitizenK on May 17, 2011 23:53:57 GMT -6
Heads up Sky!!!!! ;D Attachments:
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May 21
May 17, 2011 23:54:57 GMT -6
Post by CitizenK on May 17, 2011 23:54:57 GMT -6
lmao!!!!!! Attachments:
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May 21
May 18, 2011 6:08:52 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 18, 2011 6:08:52 GMT -6
Only three more days until the Rapture. Is your Rapture insurance paid up?
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May 21
May 18, 2011 7:55:25 GMT -6
Post by yamacycler on May 18, 2011 7:55:25 GMT -6
Like many people on this forum I do believe theres a higher power but I'm thinking we'll all be doing the same old mundane chores as per usual on May 22.
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May 21
May 18, 2011 18:14:08 GMT -6
Post by casper on May 18, 2011 18:14:08 GMT -6
On May 22 what I am going to be doing is thinking that Harold is a nut!
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May 21
May 19, 2011 0:04:49 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 0:04:49 GMT -6
t - 2 and counting ,,,,,
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May 21
May 19, 2011 5:50:07 GMT -6
Post by skywalker on May 19, 2011 5:50:07 GMT -6
Only two more days until the Rapture. If you still have any of that evil money lying around you need to get rid of it. Quick! Send it all to me and I will spend it for you!!
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