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Post by auntym on Apr 30, 2011 10:00:54 GMT -6
Disclosure is Already Happening UFO's and Extraterrestrial Aliens Are Real (APRIL 2011)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2011 17:50:45 GMT -6
I have trouble believing people who spell "wakeing" with an "e" and "realise" with an "s"... call me biased.
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Post by yamacycler on May 5, 2011 10:11:33 GMT -6
Disclosure will not be official untill the President ou the United States is forced to go public. The media won't change with anything less. The media controls everything but who controls the Media?
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Post by skywalker on May 5, 2011 14:21:53 GMT -6
The media created the President. They told us he was this wonderful brilliant leader who would bring peace to the world with hope and change for everybody...but he turned out to be just another partisan ploitical hack like the rest of the politicians.
I don't know if there is any one person, or group of people, who control the media. I think it is controlled by ideology more than anything. Most people in the news media have the same ideas and the same way of looking at things, so they end up producing the same results.
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Post by auntym on May 27, 2011 23:22:49 GMT -6
Uploaded by chich234 on May 27, 2011
A True Tale Of Repeated Alien Contact by Multiple Witnesses
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 16:42:31 GMT -6
For reasons I'm not entirely sure of..people want to believe that aliens from other planets have been and are visiting earth..apparently one person's nightmare is another's greatest dream. The paranormal sucks people in and leaves them atingle. Bigfoot, the Jersey Devil, Nessie, Leprechauns, elves, fairies and ghosts and if there are not enough bona-fide encounters..people will make them up..they'll pretend and fantasize (proven over and over in the writers of science fiction and the huge following they have). The second favorite thing to do is to believe the government has been holding out on us. The media takes turn exploiting this and making fun of it and counting the dollars that roll in from marketing, TV and movies. Billions of dollars in revenue from a subject that has yet..no basis of truth. I find this pretty amazing and I KNOW something is out there. Of those who are devout believers...only a small fraction believe these aliens might be hostile and that inviting them to dinner might be a bad idea. I'm not so sure the answer isn't ridiculously simple. We want them to be good and kind and save our a$$es from.....ourselves. We have strip-mined minerals, sucked up the oil, destroyed the forests, damaged the oceans, killed off species and often take shots at each other. We torture, maim, kill and harm and would rather pray our way out of a situation than work our way out of one. We can't seem to get along, can't agree with one another, think others are beneath us and much as we know the 'golden rule' few bother to apply it and even the very religious want off this rock so badly they're more willing to listen to the ramblings of an 89 year old man than wait for God to make a move. So maybe there ARE wonderful and good people on other planets and maybe there are killers just waiting to suck up what's left of the earth and stick the population in their freezers or put them to work mining salt somewhere really evil. In the fullness of time, we'll probably understand what makes our universe tick. In the meantime, maybe we'd all better try to do a better job of getting along and caring about each other and the planet and those we enslave as our pets..maybe we need to keep a bit of a skeptical eye and keep our dealings with ourselves and others..honest as we can make them. No matter which guy you vote for..someone will hate him and somebody will think he's the best thing since pop rocks (gads those were fun). Did anyone honestly thing a man could fix what a race of people have messed up? We don't need to make fun of another person's religion..we don't need to belittle someone for his differing opinion..we don't need to shame someone for being less educated. We actually can try to relate to everyone if we work at it. Just wake up and say...wow what a wonderful day I will make this day amazing for someone else. We really need to start somewhere then maybe the good guys will want to hunt us out.
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Post by skywalker on May 31, 2011 6:51:29 GMT -6
That pretty much says it all, Jo. People should concentrate on saving themselves instead of hoping that somebody else will come along and do it. Humans need to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions.
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Post by auntym on Oct 1, 2011 13:14:36 GMT -6
devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/12328/a-form-letter-is-better-than-nothing/September 30th, 2011 01:18pm A form letter is better than nothingby Billy Cox On Sept. 16, at his Paradigm Research Group website, UFO disclosure lobbyist Stephen Bassett posted what had to be one of the most dispiriting ledgers in the history of ufology. It described how PRG, which he founded in hopes of prying loose federal UFO secrets, ran through $250K from 1996 to 2003. From ‘04 through last year, Bassett’s X-Conferences lost $90K, and is $36K in arrears today. He estimated his current net worth at minus $40K, with a cash balance of $400. Now that’s disclosure … Anyhow, earlier this month, the White House announced it was hosting a “We The People” website through which America could submit its grievances with petitions. It vowed to directly respond to any that collected more than 5,000 signatures within 30 days. Given how there are 300 million people in this country, most of whom are old enough to have at least one grievance apiece, one might’ve expected the site to crash. "Dear (***): We appreciate your bringing this urgent matter to our attention. Many Americans share your concerns about (***). Pleased be advised we take these matters seriously, and we are closely monitoring future developments. Sincerely, (***)"/CREDIT: telliquah.comInstead, as of today, a paltry 111 petitions are on file. They range from cutting congressional salaries before cutting public services, to putting Casey Anthony on trial in federal court, to removing “In God We Trust” from coins. Oh, and please legalize pot. Legalizing weed is running away with the field. Bassett filed this broad appeal for signatures on Sept. 22: “We, the undersigned, strongly urge the President of the United States to formally acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race and immediately release into the public domain all files from all agencies and military services relevant to this phenomenon.” He collected 5,000 autographs within four days. Can Robert Salas catch up? CONTINUE READING: devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/12328/a-form-letter-is-better-than-nothing/?pa=all&tc=pgall
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Post by auntym on Nov 14, 2011 13:11:54 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Nov 14, 2011 15:12:23 GMT -6
Did Canada have its own Blue Book project? Can you direct me towards how to find it???
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 17:52:43 GMT -6
Did Canada have its own Blue Book project? Can you direct me towards how to find it??? Behold the power of Google... mua haha!! "Project Magnet" From Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Magnet
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Post by paulette on Nov 15, 2011 9:42:24 GMT -6
Thanks Lorelei! Interesting that the founder continued to work from 54 to 62 on his own dime. He must have had some interesting data to keep going for 8 years. And that data is....where? (IMO the cigarette smoking man/see X files has it in in drawer.)
If I was going to discredit someone, I'd publish all their data and tear it apart (scientifically). If I couldn't do that, I'd disappear it. But me, I'm just a loony civilian with a day job.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 15, 2011 19:53:50 GMT -6
J. Allen Hynek did pretty much the same thing. He originally worked on Project Blue Book as a scientific debunker but was so convinced by the evidence that he saw that he later changed his mind and continued investigating UFOs long after the Air Force shut Blue Book down. He must have saw some pretty interesting things.
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Post by paulette on Nov 16, 2011 11:50:55 GMT -6
Where does Hynek stand on ET UFO's. Oh oh...I'm about to lose my electricity here - big storm blew in, branches lashing outside the window.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 16:04:53 GMT -6
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 – April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist.[1] He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947–1949), Project Grudge (1949–1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969). For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, developing the Close Encounter classification system, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs. [2] read down to the UFO origin hypothesis ..it's interesting en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek
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Post by paulette on Nov 17, 2011 10:01:08 GMT -6
Wow. It is obvious that I am uninformed in this field. Thanks for the link.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 17, 2011 11:07:50 GMT -6
It's people like Hynek and John Mack that bring credibility to ufology. If people with those types of credentials can be convinced by the evidence they have seen that they must be seeing something mighty interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 13:55:11 GMT -6
We need more people in this field like Hynek and John Mack...
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Post by Steve on Nov 17, 2011 20:14:17 GMT -6
I have much regard for Dr. J. Allen Hynek. Knew a friend who took his astronomy courses at the University of Chicago. His most memorable comment about Hynek was his classes were the hardest. I pretty much agree with Hynek's later theories. ETI & EDI with psychic thrown in, seemed to be the only hypothesis that can explain the most facts. But we must ask, which hypothesis can explain the most puzzling facts too? Dr. Vallee more or less the same hypothesis. Recently got a stupid email pronouncement from Mufon. Seems the girl scouts (no offense to the real girl scouts) called 'Lights, Camera, Star Team!' They are selling out their cases (and their witnesses - they not surprisingly fail to mention that) to 'Hollywood' to do another tiresome UFO reality show. Maybe they should do the story of the UFO crash down in Fresno two years ago where the feeble witnesses (over 2 miles away) never saw the crash occur, the crash site turned out to be high school kids on motorcycles partying on a Friday night. Their Star team 'rapidly responded' over two weeks later, the so called team leader got lost trying to find his way back home (after HQ excluding me from the investigation on site overriding the other investigators - then feebly calling me for help needing driving directions to find his way back home!) Mufon buried that embarrassing 'adventure' story. I think they should do that story as their season opener. Hope the producers read this and form second thoughts about their investment. Who do they think they are kidding? I have a more appropriate comical hokey poster for their show to suggest attached here...(they even are using my FI patch I designed for them- sick!)... Look at Mufon now, and compare to Dr. J. Allen Hynek. I hope the producers deservedly loose their shirts. They have screwed the witnesses selling out their case files to Hollywood. And they complain about the Condon committee, at least Condon never sold out the witnesses. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 10:39:34 GMT -6
Dr. Vallee has always made a great deal of sense to me..and Hynek because their theories can explain quite a few of my 'bucket list' questions. I don't have any doubts (especially after my own encounters) that there IS something absolutely unexplained going on.. what remains the question. It still bothers me that so many people are so anxious to shove it into something explainable to the extent that they will misdirect or invent or stretch what few examples we have. It MAY be inter-dimensional or extraterrestrial or it may have an explanation that we just can't perceive yet and never will if we don't quit trying to force it into our idea of what it should be. Of course people are seeing something..being abducted by somethings..chasing objects racing along at incredible speeds..but they aren't wearing signs saying 'we are beings from other planets'. They remain UFO's... unidentified. And there still exists the other side, that most of the dyed-in-the-wool...UFO investigators don't want to even play with..the psychic element...because it is the most elusive and unidentified element of all...there's just no explaining that one with any comfort zone. Still they do go hand in hand..and whoever-whatever these beings are..they can use it to their own ends...very well. We have to be malleable..able to adapt our thinking and smart enough to say..we know something's going on..just don't have a clue of what that is yet' and quit waiting for the government to 'disclose' and answer our questions when quite possibly..they're just as bloody clueless to define it as we are. Sometimes you have to ask...do we want to know the truth...or will any answer do?
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Post by skywalker on Nov 18, 2011 13:20:23 GMT -6
I saw that silly announcement about MUFON's reality show too. I hope it is better than that interview that Clift gave that makes all ufologists look like a bunch of imbecilles...or at least that's the way he looked. It's kind of interesting that MUFON has gone from not releasing any info to anybody to now broadcasting their secret info on national TV. Or are they still not going to reveal anything? Does it even matter? Most UFO investigations I have been involved in are not exactly the type of things that would make good entertainment...unless it was meant to be a comedy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 15:16:50 GMT -6
I think there is a 'mole' that slips into every group investigating UFO's and the moment it looks like they may be given some inkling of respect..they go to work to discredit and make us look like imbeciles
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Post by skywalker on Nov 18, 2011 18:10:29 GMT -6
That is probably true. There is evidence that the CIA used to infiltrate all of the major UFO groups and the people in charge of MUFON nowadays look like a who's who of the alphabet agencies. We still have Feds who are keeping a watch on us and we are just a tiny little forum. Their quest for control is insatiable which is why they will never disclose anything...unless their is some political power to be gained by doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2011 11:19:12 GMT -6
The ones keeping an eyeball on us would probably much rather be fishing or playing beer pong..this isn't what I'd call exciting duty ;D
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Post by skywalker on Nov 20, 2011 21:09:40 GMT -6
Most of the Feds who are watching us are probably only students. I think they use harmless forums like ours as a training tool to teach them how to monitor the real bad guys while keeping an eye on us at the same time. That way they can kill two UFO nuts with one rock...umm...figuratively speaking of course.
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Post by auntym on Jan 27, 2012 12:09:42 GMT -6
www.ufodigest.com/article/disclosure-all-levels-and-appearance-fly-overs Disclosure (all levels) and Appearance of Fly-Overs[/color] Submitted by Arrai’El on Fri, 01/27/2012 Disclosure is said to be near…with Fly-Overs becoming a pre-cursor for First Contact[/color] On NASA website, by Apollo 16 (April 19, 2004) was captured but denied by NASA. You decide! The time of the "Long Dark Sleep" is ending. Hopefully for all. The movie “2012” is being played over and over on cable and just recently its now being run in consecutive several nights on FX (sometimes twice continuously)…the irony (or agenda) is not being lost by many. Of all the movies that instill fear, worry and uneasiness, that is one of the few films with the most graphic details of global-wide apocalyptic/disaster ending in December 2012 ever! Although, many scenes in this movie are true some are the result of ‘spin’ of the facts as I believe it. Or a great doom-and-gloom fantasy! Just do yourself (and your loved ones) a favor - please- ‘wake up’ and pay attention! 2012 is also noted (per numerology) to be the Year of Revelations or Truths! Read ‘between the lines’. Use discernment. One message that should be heard by every person who places their focus and attention on the fear-mongering… “Our observations are that you are doing so well in bringing Light to the Earth, that it is continuing to increase exponentially and rapidly taking you forward to Ascension. So you are on course for a great victory over the dark Ones and there was never any doubt about it, and you have the strong will and intent to do so. After all, as Lightworkers it was the reason you came to Earth at such an important time, knowing fully well what your task was and faith in your ability to carry it out. As you can see, there are two main schools of thought that people follow, one supposes that life will carry on as usual and somehow get past the present problems, and the other sees immense change and the restoration of people's rights. Both will to a large extent continue to follow their own path, and it will determine which one that they step upon when this cycle ends. The fact remains that you are all creating your own reality, using your freewill as a God given right to determine your own future.” (channeling from SaLuSa via Mike Quinsey…1-23-12) I’m strongly motivated to proclaim to everyone - I don’t buy the mass media fear-mongering 2012 end crap! What belief system (or faith) can a person have that enables them to love the movie, watch it over and over and even buy the movie with a smile with no fear, anxiety or panic? One who knows that the end of ‘2012’ is not the ‘end’ of life or of living! Far from it! (And I’m not alone!) One who can watch this movie, repeatedly, as a dispassionate observer & critic (rather then a fear-laden, teeth-gnashing victim of ‘Media Control’ dished out in heavy offerings), can do so because they have done their research, followed events and studied social indications. trusted with inner (and outer) spiritual beliefs! One who feels they must ‘speak their truth’ who also lives it! I just watched “Megaquake 10.0”, a covert fear laden ‘subversive’ piece of work (additional channels such as History, National Geographic, Discovery, etc are targeting similar) on anything from ancient prophecies (Nostradamus, Biblical, certain scientists, etc) conspiracies, comets to sunflares to supervolcanic to the New World Order (and all that entails) all concentrated on the END OF this AGE, to all life either doomed to genocide or enslaved. Or all. But there are certain things supporters/believers of conspiracies theories are over looking. Most have not done all the research of looking into the present data and information about these ancient seers, prophecies or conspiracies of NWO at this time. If they had they would have become of several surprised hard facts: 1. The time line of NWO has passed (successful NWO ‘calling card’ is mass death, internment/martial law and genocide) which was slated to start awhile ago. Why not? 2. The attempts at seeding mass diseases (air-borne, death dumps or chemtrails, lacing of food products, etc) numerous attempts have failed to create mass death or pandemics; never past those killed during, say, a heavy ‘flu’ season and was ever close to pandemic levels (over decades many ‘diseases’ some directed at ethnic or racial groups totally failed their plans. Why not? 3. The massive humankind die-off via comet, meteoric, etc. crashing into the earth as mentioned in biblical mention of ‘Wormwood’, among others has past. Why hasn’t they? 4. The economic failure and protests by the ‘99%’ US and worldwide. Why? 5. No explosion of more nuclear bombs have happened since Hiroshima/Nagasaki in 1945. Even though the world has tottered on the edge of the Cold War, World Wars or terroristic nuclear bombing dozens of times nothing such happened. Why not? 6. Time is speeding up, increase in UFOs, crop formations and more . Why? Some may feel that we still have time before December 21, 2012 for any of this to happen. Perhaps but critical 'crunch' time has gone and must indicate (the aforementioned attacks/deaths, etc) as foundations before it actually can have any attempt at succeeding as the numbers of human beings are just too great, waking up and en masse. In less then a year? They are still trying...I see chemtrails still but they are 'nullified' by our GF friends. Otherwise massive deaths and horrible diseases would be everywhere. Some videos have caught these you can find if you look. CONTINUE READING: www.ufodigest.com/article/disclosure-all-levels-and-appearance-fly-overs
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Post by auntym on Mar 13, 2012 12:43:07 GMT -6
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Post by paulette on Mar 13, 2012 14:06:13 GMT -6
Hmmmm....nifty artifacts. Hope they past scrutiny.
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Post by auntym on Mar 17, 2012 12:32:22 GMT -6
Fastwalkers - UFO Documentary FULL [/color]
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Fastwalkers: UFO & Alien Disclosure Fastwalkers in a feature length documentary form discloses information you were never meant to know. Amazing Fastwalker UFO photos and Fastwalker footage gathered from around the world that you were never meant to see. Never before has there been such a wealth of information presented by such unbiased experts who focus on providing a 'World View' of what is really happening on planet Earth, rather than what 'we are told is happening
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Post by auntym on May 3, 2012 13:06:53 GMT -6
ET/UFO Disclosure | Obama under pressure on UFO Disclosure [/color]
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Fox News 2010 - Obama has been placed on extreme pressure on the subject, Ufo Disclosure. Pressure coming from our skys, the people, the national press conference, the awakening mass that want answers. Veil of truth that is appearing on all the cracks in the walls is placing all Governments to come open and disclose the truth is imminent now.
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