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Post by auntym on Jun 9, 2018 11:46:21 GMT -6
NASHVILLE, TENN. 1989
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Post by skywalker on Jun 9, 2018 14:06:41 GMT -6
I thought that was proven to be a fake UFO in a disco.
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Post by jcurio on Jun 9, 2018 14:24:18 GMT -6
Smoke and all??
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Post by jcurio on Jun 9, 2018 14:26:21 GMT -6
There ARE pictures out there.
We should be seeing more of them! (We all KNOW that stuff CAN be faked).
It’s a great time for people to put out the REAL PICS
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Post by auntym on Jun 9, 2018 14:42:35 GMT -6
Dec 6th 1968. Sicuani, Péru
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Post by auntym on Jun 14, 2018 8:42:41 GMT -6
1967 ROME, ITALY
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Post by auntym on Jun 18, 2018 16:23:46 GMT -6
O'HARE UFO INCIDENT 2006
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Jun 18, 2018 17:08:20 GMT -6
Why do you suppose all the early UFO photos looked the same? Was there only one type of UFO showing up back then? Back in the 50s and 60s they were pretty much all flying saucers.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 18, 2018 17:11:00 GMT -6
Why was I signed in on my other account? Does anybody ever see "flying saucers" anymore? Now there seems to be all sorts of weird stuff except flying saucers.
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Post by swamprat on Jun 18, 2018 19:53:44 GMT -6
Sky, take a look at my post this evening in "The Pentagon's Mysterious UFO Program". Billy Cox (DeVoid) talks about some of the interviews that have materialized since the New York Times broke the story. A guy named Trevor reported he got to see the videos from the fighter planes' guncams. Unlike the radar images, the "Tic Tac" looked like an "old time" flying saucer. I'm wondering if vistors have changed their technology so their craft look like fuzzy blurs or simple lights now whe we look or snap photos...
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Post by auntym on Jun 21, 2018 13:19:49 GMT -6
Balwyn, Melbourne, Australia April 2, 1966
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Post by swamprat on Jun 23, 2018 9:07:10 GMT -6
David Clarke's UFO Drawings from the British National ArchivesMichael Abatemarco | The New Mexican | Jun 22, 2018
“Intuitive cognition of a thing is cognition that enables us to know whether the thing exists or does not exist, in such a way that, if the thing exists, then the intellect immediately judges that it exists and evidently knows that it exists, unless the judgment happens to be impeded through the imperfection of this cognition.” — William of Ockham
In 1952, the Air Ministry, which oversaw the United Kingdom’s Royal Air Force, decided the time was right to open a special unit for the investigation of unidentified flying objects or UFOs. The previous year, the Ministry of Defence had established a Flying Saucer Worker Party, tasked with producing a secret intelligence report on UFOs. The report concluded that all UK-based sightings could be explained away as non-extraordinary phenomena: hoaxes, hallucinations, and natural occurrences. But the Air Ministry’s UFO unit was formed to handle the sheer volume of reported sightings by military personnel and members of the public — because the sightings simply would not stop. In 2008, more than 50 years after the unit was established in the attic room of the Hotel Metropole in central London, those case files became a matter of public record. In fact, they’re available on the British National Archives website.
UFO Drawings From the National Archives (Four Corners Irregulars No. 2) is a small compendium detailing a number of the more credible (or incredible, as the case may be) reported sightings over the decades. Author David Clarke is a real-life Fox Mulder (the central character on The X-Files TV series) who works in Sheffield Hallam University’s journalism department. His bio states that his interests are in “investigative journalism, contemporary legends, and rumors.” But Clarke is no crank. He was a leading consultant for the National Archives release of the UFO files, for which he pushed via Britain’s Freedom of Information Act. He is also noncommittal when it comes to the subject of UFOs, simply presenting the cases — at times in rather dry fashion — and letting readers make up their own minds.
UFO Drawings is not like an exhibition catalogue. The drawings represent witnesses’ attempts to describe their encounters. They range from only a handful with some artistic merit (because the witnesses happened to be artists) to crude line drawings and quickly rendered impressions that are sometimes less compelling than the narratives that accompany them. The latter type of drawings predominate. “Viewed from a purely aesthetic viewpoint, sketches of UFOs made by schoolchildren or policemen might appear naïve or worthless,” Clarke writes, noting the the lack of artistic sophistication accompanying most of the book’s illustrations. “But as visual evidence of unusual sightings that are deeply meaningful and significant to those individuals who have seen UFOs, they are uniquely valuable historical documents in their own right, and shed light on how the events and popular culture of the age imprinted on people’s imaginations.” The visual record in the National Archives is primarily made up of drawings — there is a dearth of photographic evidence, and for that reason only a few images accompany the book. The reason for the lack of credible photographs, Clarke suggests, is that most UFO images are anomalous and prove to be explainable by other phenomena such as double exposures, tricks of the light, and reflections in camera lenses.
What is remarkable about the drawings is that there is no real consistency to what the UFOs look like, except for a few basic shapes. Aside from a lot of discs and saucers, the UFOs vary in appearance: V-shapes, triangles, orbs, ovals, cigar shapes, and crosses, to name a few. “In 1971, the Oxford-based UFO group Contact UK produced a report that acknowledged the ‘almost bewildering variety’ of UFO shapes,” he writes. And he cites the report as suggesting this multitude of types allows for the possibility that “two or more quite different races of UFOnauts are currently visiting Earth ... .” But when it comes to reported UFO behavior, weird is the order of the day. They are silent, hovering in mid-air, darting off at super high speeds, maneuvering in ways no conventional aircraft can, lit by multicolored lights and masking themselves as though by camouflage. These sightings are inexplicable as some anomaly of weather or manmade object. In fact, reports that mention a particular place and time where sightings were often assumed to be the result of military aircraft operations sometimes reveal, upon investigation, that no military maneuvers were ever recorded in the area.
One particularly interesting case involved a 1977 sighting by a number of schoolchildren in Macclesfield, England, who were later separated and asked to draw what they had seen. Individually, they provided remarkably consistent images. Another incident, presented without author commentary, is a controversial one involving a boy who, in 1962, faked a blurry UFO photograph by first painting the flying saucers on a pane of glass. For years, many people believed the image was genuine, until he later confessed. But in 1997, he retracted that claim, stating that the hoax itself was a hoax and the image was actually real. He pretended it wasn’t, he claimed, to avoid unwanted media attention. It wasn’t the last time the man would present photographic evidence of UFOs to the MoD, but it’s up to the reader to decide if, in light of the possible hoax, any other evidence he sent to them can be given any credence.
UFO Drawings offers no real analysis of its subject and thus provides no definitive answers to the UK government’s position on UFOs and alien visitors. Interestingly enough, for more than half a century, both the UK and the United States — by way of Project Blue Book and the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program created in 2007 — took the phenomena seriously enough to warrant programs to study them. In the United States, it seems every incoming president vows to look into the matter of UFOs. In the UK, so did Winston Churchill. Clarke cites Churchill’s questions to his advisors in July 1952: “What does all this stuff about flying saucers amount to? What can it mean? What is the truth?” In the case of Britain’s defense ministry, however, stonewalling about the government’s interest in UFOs has led to public speculation and, potentially, provided fodder to conspiracy theorists. Most reported cases in the National Archives were never actually investigated, only documented and added to a vast anthology. Cases the author cites that allege actual alien abductions were often met by the MoD with a curious response: “Abduction is a criminal offense and as such is a matter for the civil police.”
Clarke gives no evidence of coverups and avoids speculation. He suggests that certain sightings were never given proper investigations simply because of lack of funding, manpower, and the fact that most cases had rational explanations. One compelling case that was actually investigated involved a 1967 sighting in Dorset, wherein the witness was able to describe and draw the craft in detail. But in the end, even his sighting was passed off as a vivid waking dream. Another case involving a vision of UFOs from Saturn that a man claimed to have received telepathically seems more likely the result of a disturbed mind.
Other cases involve reported alien encounters with beings from planets like Venus — a place that, science tells us, cannot sustain life as we know it. Then, of course, there are the effects of atmospheric conditions that sometimes make people think they are seeing UFOs, not to mention weather balloons, swamp gas, flocks of birds, misperceived conventional aircraft, and other rational explanations. While such circumstances might explain the majority of cases, belief in alien visitors continues with alarming consistency — the files in the National Archives comprise an estimated 60,000 pages of data. Why? Perhaps, as Mulder once suggested in The X-Files, “all the evidence to the contrary is not entirely dissuasive.”www.santafenewmexican.com/pasatiempo/books/close-encounters-david-clarke-s-ufo-drawings-from-the-british/article_4cd7b123-a80a-5642-b7e8-d5f507a174aa.html
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Post by lois on Jun 26, 2018 21:36:08 GMT -6
I thought that was proven to be a fake UFO in a disco. This pic is legit. Look at my avatar . it is another one at the same time. The cameraman got several. Read his story. He is probably not living any longer.
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Post by lois on Jun 26, 2018 21:37:40 GMT -6
NASHVILLE, TENN. 1989 this is one of five photos. the one on my avatar is what I witnessed .
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Post by lois on Jun 26, 2018 21:41:56 GMT -6
They were taken by the commanders close friend. The person that took them was a professional Camera man. He had the best camera of the day at that time in 89. I forgot the name of the ufo site that brought this out. Some one help me remember. Cliff and Aaron use to both bring there latest reports here. Or rather to Mufon board
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Post by auntym on Jun 29, 2018 16:05:09 GMT -6
June 29, 1999 - Mount Popocatepetl, Mexico
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Post by jojustjo on Jun 30, 2018 2:53:44 GMT -6
But why, now that photography is better and everyone has a cell phone camera in hand...are we seeing no UFO pictures? Nothing in the last few years and people are more open minded and certainly more armed for the picture taking experience..the last big to do was the Arizona flap when so many people saw and took pictures I think. Either they've lost interest, someone warned them off or they're really really camera shy. I just find it curious.
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Post by auntym on Jul 2, 2018 22:55:21 GMT -6
Mysterious Interdimensional Portal, UFO Wormhole Over Cape Town, Nov 28 , 2015
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Post by jcurio on Jul 3, 2018 8:47:48 GMT -6
The way that this “ufo” is blurry in contrast to everything else.... is often how “they” appear.
And also one answer to Jo’s question above the last post. Easy to dismiss a “blurry spot” in a picture.
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Post by jojustjo on Jul 20, 2018 3:02:00 GMT -6
That's a cool pic...wonder how science explains it.
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Post by jcurio on Jul 20, 2018 6:39:22 GMT -6
Come on, one of you scientific types!
Explain the visual spectrum of light or how this appears like this!?
We all need some teaching moments! 😊
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Post by jojustjo on Jul 23, 2018 0:15:41 GMT -6
Trying to wade through my memory banks of yester-year for I have seen something similar..out of another country I think...and it was some kind of a reflection...no...skeptical types..not swamp gas or weather balloons but some real scientific thingy ma bob. Alas...the door that houses that memory seems hopelessly rusty
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Post by jojustjo on Jul 30, 2018 23:21:27 GMT -6
Looks kinda like a missile
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Post by auntym on Aug 4, 2018 14:03:19 GMT -6
RoundtownUFO Society @roundtownufo Jul 29
Florida, USA 1996 —Its well know in the ufo community that black helicopters or military jets are often seen during or right after a sighting.
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Post by jojustjo on Sept 9, 2018 23:11:24 GMT -6
Well..they're not military...didn't stay in formation... And there were quite a few of them out for a stroll. I've been reading : Selected by Extraterrestrials : My Life in the Top Secret World of UFOs, Think-Tanks and Nordic Secretaries (William Milles Tompkins) and if you haven't read it yet (I'd say most people here would be interested) you should. He's not a professional writer so he gets caught up in the structure of meetings with brass and adding things that make it kind of windy but he's saying some interesting stuff. That they knew (know)..meaning important government big wigs and military...that there were intelligent races from Alpha Centauri and about 6 other directions and were scrambling for effective ways to communicate..because they figured some of them might be hostile and they were worried for the planet. They knew we couldn't compete with them on any level and that we couldn't prevent anything they wanted to do. It was believed that some controlling group of aliens did operate and control some sixty stars in our sector of the galaxy. At one point they 'drafted' Jaques Vallee because he seemed the best authority to them. From him they gleaned that he had information about some governing body or federation of planets that helped control the extraterrestrial people of rogue planets from preying on others. He told them that they operate much like 'kings and queens' and that they communicate internally and different from us. That's about where I'm at in the book right now..at the moment I'm going...uhhh..because they haven't mentioned Jacques Vallee's core belief...that most aliens are dimensional and that time and space play a larger role than we have the means of understanding. Time travel, bending of space..some of the old science fiction writers were probably more psychic than story teller. Anyway...I'll be interested to see where it goes.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 10, 2018 7:26:42 GMT -6
The way that this “ufo” is blurry in contrast to everything else.... is often how “they” appear. And also one answer to Jo’s question above the last post. Easy to dismiss a “blurry spot” in a picture. Looks very cool. I'm thinking it has something to do with the moonlight. In one of the photos the green thingy was in a cloud directly under the moonlight and light from the green thingy was shining directly away from the moon. May ice crystals in the clouds are refracting the moonlight and giving it that weird green color.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 10, 2018 7:32:28 GMT -6
But why, now that photography is better and everyone has a cell phone camera in hand...are we seeing no UFO pictures? Nothing in the last few years and people are more open minded and certainly more armed for the picture taking experience..the last big to do was the Arizona flap when so many people saw and took pictures I think. Either they've lost interest, someone warned them off or they're really really camera shy. I just find it curious. The seemed to have changed through the decades. In the 40s and 50s lots of "flying saucers" then they became more cigar shaped and recently lots of triangles. They also appear to be hiding more amongst the clouds or imitating stars or airplanes. Maybe as our technology has gotten better they have had to make changes to their craft to keep us from shooting them down. They're being more cautious, trying to not provoke us into blowing stuff (including ourselves) up.
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Post by auntym on Sept 11, 2018 13:58:07 GMT -6
Oct 22 1967 Milledgeville, Georgia
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Post by jcurio on Sept 29, 2018 18:19:41 GMT -6
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Post by jcurio on Jan 22, 2019 0:10:18 GMT -6
2nd vid: trying to see what the “square thing” is on the mountain at 1:52.
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