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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 14:50:15 GMT -6
ive had 2 encounters with ufos, heres one of them. on the night of august 12, 2007, (im pretty sure it was that year),me and a good friend were out catfishing late at night like we always use to do. about 2 a.m., I told him to look at the constellation that looks like a "w",which is called cassiopeia. I then pointed to the constellation underneath which is perseus and told him its the one that looks like an "A" because theres a meteor shower happening and its the best one of the year. As soon as we looked, this star-like object came from the left between perseus and cassiopeia and QUICKLY moved to the right, back to the left,zigging and zagging about 6 times and then went back into space from the point which it came and disappeared. We both saw it and got up and couldnt get our poles and tackle into the car fast enough,,,lol. we use to fish alot, but havent been back since. yes, I admit, it was scary !!! this happened over lake pomme de terre in southwest missouri .Ive studied astronomy since my childhood, and im 43 now. usually, I can identify or explain what im seeing,,, not this one !!! Ive only witnessed 1 other ufo encounter that I cant explain, and this comes from years of observing .
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Post by casper on May 2, 2011 16:44:47 GMT -6
Maybe the UFO was coming down to abduct the fish. I abduct fish all the time. Most of the time I let them return to their home world.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 19:53:00 GMT -6
lol, I never thought of it that way,,,
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 20:03:42 GMT -6
this object exercised "G" forces that ive never witnessed til then. I would have to think that if the govt. has something like this, it would have to be some type of ucav because I cant see any life form sustaining the forces it exhibited. .I use to live on nellis blvd. next to nellis air force base back in the day in las vegas, nv. and never seen anything like this !!! although ive been in a few life threatening ordeals in my lifetime, and dont get scared too much, this was an exception !!! I dont know of anything we have that could come close to this, I just hope their on our side whoever or whatever they were!!!
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Post by lois on May 2, 2011 20:19:13 GMT -6
Welcome Touched to the Edge Of Reality.. The date of your encounter hit home with me. I had a major encounter on the night of august 10, 1972. It came right over me and stood, A strong arm could of hit it with a rock. It shot down a beam but I never stood in it. I stood under it for a few minutes, when I tried to walk away. I was somehow in the beam and it was almost four hours later.
On this same night I had two more sightings years later. I go out on my porch every august 10, as I watch meteors showers, that is what I was doing in 72, when this ufo shows up. You are right you do not want to be out in the open once you see something like that. Next year it will be four decades and I won't go off my porch.
Like that would protect me. I read a lot over the years and many many witnesses say it was around the 10 to the 15 of augusthey had an encounter. I believe skywalker here is from this month,, Starship I think encountered one on august 11. Just ask around.. I never remembered to this day what I was doing during all that missing time. My husband and I catfished all our lives sometimes till dawn. Never once did anything happen or did we ever see a saucer. I know why. I was with him and not alone.
Glad to have you hear. Would like to hear more of the second sighting you had.. One thing about them they know you and return to you.. I never thought any encounter was accidental. Why? That is something no investigator can answer for sure.
Lois ///Shamira..
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2011 21:04:43 GMT -6
thx lois for sharing your experiences as well. I dont know why either about all the encounters, they didnt start happening until I was well in my 30,s , and the first was the abduction I experienced . I did have a (dream maybe?) which ive remembered since I can first remember anything and its possible it may have happened BEFORE I was born, not sure(hmmm, I know that sounds very strange). anyways, I may discuss it one of these days. after the abduction happened, I witnessed this as well as one other unexplainable sighting involving about 100 objects in the sky and this just happened very recently which we reported to mufon. ill post a thread in awhile about that sighting as well. ive also had 2 (ghost/paranormal ) visits that happened before the abduction,,,,,I dont understand either, but thats why im here, to try and get answers, and help others as well in any way that I can !!! one thing is for sure,,,,,im a DEFINATE believer now !!!
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Post by skywalker on May 2, 2011 22:22:28 GMT -6
My experience was in August. I believe it was right around the 15th. Not a hundred percent certain about the date though.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 0:44:53 GMT -6
hi skywalker, ive read a few of your experiences so far and look forward to reading the rest !!!I noticed the one where you comment"be careful what you wish for" and couldnt agree more with that quote!!!I wonder if that isnt WHY Im having these encounters now because in a way, I kind of asked for it out of curiosity. I guess they must have heard me,,,lol
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 2:39:45 GMT -6
theres only 3 things that I can personally come up with to try and explain this in a scientific way. #1. (some) govt. vehicle that I dont know about(I could only hope we would have something like this !!!). #2. during the meteor shower, a particle enters the atmosphere from point "a" deflects off a particle to point "b",back again to "a",then back again to "b",and so forth several times.. ive never witnessed this before,and I think the odds are astronomically against it . Ive watched this particular shower for many years. # 3. alien vehicle. Im open for suggestions because I truly dont know !!!
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Post by skywalker on May 3, 2011 12:20:54 GMT -6
hi skywalker, ive read a few of your experiences so far and look forward to reading the rest !!!I noticed the one where you comment"be careful what you wish for" and couldnt agree more with that quote!!!I wonder if that isnt WHY Im having these encounters now because in a way, I kind of asked for it out of curiosity. I guess they must have heard me,,,lol That's possible, dude. There have been many reports of UFOs responding to people's thoughts. I have actually had several instances where I asked them to come down and had weird things happen in response.
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Post by lois on May 3, 2011 15:44:53 GMT -6
I believe some are being monitored through thought.. I mean this is what I experienced in my teens. and again when the ufo was hanging over me.. I cannot explain it. but your mind is altered.. a very strange feeling.. They can find you at any given moment, but why not everyone. They pick and chose, what are they looking for in a human, what qualities is it. Even Budd could not find a pattern.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 19:44:13 GMT -6
true skywalker and lois about the mind reading thing, during my encounter "abduction in missouri", this being clearly read my mind as well as me reading its. I wonder what distance they can do this ? anyone know? Ive heard of people communicating telepathically across far reaches, Im just curious if this is possible across solar systems or beyond.A nother thing im curious about is if telepathy is as fast as the speed of light, or since there isnt mass involved,maybe even faster. It would seem if their communicating even to the nearest star, it would still take 4.3 years to get there + then the same to get a response.
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Post by skywalker on May 3, 2011 21:42:33 GMT -6
How long would it take God to communicate from one star to another? I'm not saying these beings are gods but there is a whole universe full of things that we do not know about the universe. We really have no way of knowing how telepathy works. I would love to find out though.
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Post by lois on May 4, 2011 20:47:03 GMT -6
-I don't believe it is through a homeing divice, as I have had a mri on my brain twice in my life. Nothing.. at least no one said they seen anything in my head but brains.. lol
Touched did your hearing change at all when you could read their thoughts? My hearing got so loud I could not stand it. very creepy.. Sort of like I was in a tunnel of some kind is how I precieved the sound. I never heard voices it was not like that at all. Fear set in as I was alone in my youth just sitting in my bedroom.. a teenager..From 12 years to 18 years.
It stopped for awhile when I got married. Then returned after my third child was born.. My husband did not understand what was going on. I never told him as I thought he would think he had a crazy wife. The first time it returned I sat up all night in the bed. but fell asleep by morning, when I woke I knew a quake was going to hit our town and it did. I know this altered state is why I predicted it as it has gone on for the rest of my life.
I wake and say My God a big quake is coming. usually with this thing getting into my head at bedtime. Yes many would say I was off. no proof. But proof came in 1972.. for me anyway.. I was relieved but surprised at the answer I got. As I walked to that ship and stood under it. All this altered state began. Loud Loud Loud everything was Loud, it was enough to scare me and send anyone running for their home. But I was mad as could be. For what horrible unknown I lived with was caused by some crazy beings not from this world.
There is no word to describe how I feel. Surprised but stay in my right mind enough to be mad. All I did was shake my fist up at it and scream it was you it was you. I was steaming mad and the noise did not matter right then as it had a cause with it this time.
I don't remember what they did with me for 3 hours and 38 minutes to be exact. Never remembered either. I know this mind thing is real.. I know nothing about how it works. How they do it but it is not with an implant unless the implant is somewhere other than the brain. I use to think it was in my ear maybe because of the hearing mystery..
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Post by skywalker on May 4, 2011 21:01:43 GMT -6
I personally don't think they need implants. I think they can just use their mental powers to tune into our thoughts. Maybe they alter our brains somehow to enhance our own mental processes to make it easier for us to communicate telepathically. Maybe that's why the psychic stuff and dreams of earthquakes start happening. It's a possibility anyway.
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Post by lois on May 4, 2011 21:09:01 GMT -6
Sky .. they say Angels are ministering thoughts form God. But he is everywhere. Right next to me I believe as I sit in this chair typing. I never believed him to be being like us.. A divine power.. in its self. Jesus said the father is in me.. that sometimes people can't percieve. Many think a being is in a being by his words. But he ...Jesus held the Divine power. The true thought of mankind, but how many are aware of it. So I would say it travels constantly and instantly. These beings have nothing to do with divine power. Just another lifeform living somewhere else. Wish they would all go away and leave this world to us.
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Post by auntym on May 4, 2011 21:14:37 GMT -6
lois, i love the comment in your signature
"If you encounter a UFO.. Run!!"
;D ;D ;D
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Post by lois on May 4, 2011 22:57:29 GMT -6
Thanks auntym. it is all I could think of at the time. but it is true. all these people who want to see a close up of one don't realize what could happen to them..
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2011 2:32:47 GMT -6
true skywalker and lois about the mind reading thing, during my encounter "abduction in missouri", this being clearly read my mind as well as me reading its. I wonder what distance they can do this ? anyone know? Ive heard of people communicating telepathically across far reaches, Im just curious if this is possible across solar systems or beyond.A nother thing im curious about is if telepathy is as fast as the speed of light, or since there isnt mass involved,maybe even faster. It would seem if their communicating even to the nearest star, it would still take 4.3 years to get there + then the same to get a response. I used to hang out in psychic chat rooms all the time when I was a teenager. I honed my abilities with other psychics who were there doing free readings for people. It was a free user chat room on yahoo, which they no longer allow anymore because too many people enjoyed it I guess... ~shrug~. I never told anyone in the room I was only 15. I was usually pretty accurate... even with people in other countries. It's just a matter of focusing on the person... either by webcam (which is a LOT easier...) or by the words they are typing. Other psychics can track the person by their birthdate, or first name, or both or things like that. Anyhow, the reason for this little story is I encountered a man on yahoo chat who startled me. I won't share his username with you, which I vividly remember even though I only spoke with him like three times. He scared me so bad. He was doing readings on people and took a liking to me. I asked him once, because I was testing his abilities, (of course while he was answering questions from about a dozen different people) "Is what I am thinking true?" I don't even remember what the question was though, it wasn't really that important... maybe it had to do with a boy I liked or something I don't remember. Anyhow, all of a sudden, about 25 seconds after I posted my question, I felt a pressure in my head (I was repeating the question to myself over and over again) and it really really scared me. He responded simply with, "Lorelei: Yes." He really scared me... lol... I know it was him... and he is another human being... or so he says anyway... although his abilities are much much more powerful than ANYONE else I have EVER had a psychic encounter with... If people can do it, I don't see why the aliens can't do it too and be much better at it. I really believe it is their psychic/mental abilities and not technology... however, perhaps they can use their technology to make it easier. Who knows. Just a sidenote, that man told me in a private message that he couldn't have physical relationships with people because of the psychic connection he would have with another person. He said all of his romance relationships had to be done over the internet and he told me that all of the other people he had "relationship encounters" with if you catch my drift could actually feel him touching them... even if they were thousands of miles away. I feel sorry for him, I really do. From what I experienced and sensed from him... it really is a curse to have these abilities. I mean, he even scared ME... another psychic. That's hard for a human being to do... unless he is threatening me with physical violence... and he wasn't of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 6:50:33 GMT -6
I talked with the guy I was with during this sighting yesterday and he said he would have no problem speaking with whoever about this because like he said,,,"we have nothing to hide" . hes actually related in a way to me, hes the father of 2 of my grandkids and hes a straight up honest person. hed never seen anything like this before until this happened. he now believes (knows) too !!! we still havent been back fishing after all this time (we use to go all the time before this happened) but well probably end up going soon (I hope).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 21:52:48 GMT -6
I would recommend for anyone wanting to watch this years perseid meteor shower (peak nights being the 12-13), to try and get an early glimpse before the full moon hinders viewing late tonight, and tomorrow night ( 9th-10 th) during a.m. hours after midnight when the constellation has well risen and the moon is starting to set. Unfortunately the near full moon will seriously hinder many meteors from being seen , especially the nights of the 12-13 but even in the early morning hours observers can still see some after the moon sets. Happy viewing,,and who knows,,, maybe someone might see another ufo hopefully !
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Post by skywalker on Aug 10, 2011 0:01:54 GMT -6
Thanks for the info, Cliff. I finally managed to get my telescope set up. I was looking at the Moon a little while ago. I could actually see the craters on it. Tomorrow I am heading out to the desert of west Texas and New Mexico so I can check out the telescope and the meteors. This should be cool!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 7:36:02 GMT -6
youre very welcome ! Dark desert skies are the best for observing when the conditions are right but unfortunately the moon will be a hindrance for the next week or so. There are still some awesome objects to check out regardless though, ill send a pm sky . Happy observing ! Im sure youll enjoy that scope, theres so much to see and im sure youll be amazed at some of the objects up there.Unfortunately, last night when I went out to view the perseids I was met with cloudy skies but hopefully it wont be the case tonight. Enjoy !!
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Post by paulette on Aug 10, 2011 10:58:17 GMT -6
Skywalker - I envy your access to a desert to watch the Perseids (and anything else) from. Here there are trees all over - I've tried to watch north lights on a peak day and realized that they were on the horizon and just a faint glow through the trees. Could go to the top of one of our mountains but the ones with roads also have lights. Not into hiking up a mountain in the dark. Not really into hiking up a mountain at all. My suggestion: take a friend/co-witness. Just in case.
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Post by lois on Aug 10, 2011 11:22:14 GMT -6
Touched.. yes! I know about the moon and I,m disgusted. I wait all year for August to come around, I watch the showers and last year we had rain. Tonight is the night I witness the close up ufo with a green beam watching for meteorites. Sometimes you really do see fireballs.. They are too fast to get a camera ready. August tenth or 11th.. Sky told me it was on a friday or saturday in 72. I know it was the week-end.. My encyclopedia I got when I was married, said August 11 was the day of the shower. Then 20 years later, a newcaster on the local weather said it was the tenth. Well that made no difference I always go out all week. But now Im confused it was the 10 or 11. I believed it was the 11 at that time so I suppose it was on the Saturday night that week as that year I believed it was the 11. People say what makes a difference some people don't ever remember the month ;D Because data may come up some day where others on this night close to me seen a ufo.. ;D ;D Fat chance that would ever happen.. ;D We do have rain this week end off and on.. I will post back here after the showers.. Good luck.. I guess maybe aliens know who watches them very closely ;D
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Post by lois on Aug 10, 2011 11:28:54 GMT -6
Oh yes four years ago I encounter something very strange on the tenth, it is already posted under Lois experiences. A light just above the tree outback came on and went off . I got a camera and flashed back. I keep it up for several minutes. then a plane came from the airport very low like the light. I said "now what are you going to do?.. The light went out and zoomed above the tree tops heading south in front of my house it left a white stream glow behind it.. lol I laughed at it and keep on watching meteorites to fall.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 16:49:36 GMT -6
kelly and I sat outside for about 20 minutes last night and I saw 2 quick ones fly over in a southerly direction. Lois, peak nights should be the 12th and 13th but again the moon will be a terrible factor. If the skies remain clear, we may camp out in the yard tonight and watch but were not sure yet. Ive seen the perseids put on a good show before and hopefully theyll intensify in the next day or so. The best shower I ever witnessed by far was the leonids . I counted over 550 in a 5 hr. duration about 6-7 years ago.
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Post by auntym on Aug 11, 2011 19:10:25 GMT -6
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110811-perseids-meteor-shower-peak-full-moon-space-science/?source=link_tw201100811news-perseid Perseid Meteor Shower to Peak This Weekend Find out how to see the most meteors despite full moon's glare.[/size] Andrew Fazekas for National Geographic News Published August 11, 2011 Kicking off what's become an annual ritual for many stargazers, the Perseid meteor shower is set to peak tomorrow night with its dazzling flurry of shooting stars. (See Perseid pictures.) Peaking late Friday through early Saturday, this year's cosmic fireworks will be somewhat dampened by the glare of a full moon. But the Perseids can still offer a crowd-pleasing sight for many people worldwide. "The Perseids are almost always a really good show, with usually on average about 50 to 60 meteors an hour during the peak," said Jim Todd, staff astronomer and planetarium manager at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry in Portland. "This year, while the moon will wash out some of the more dim meteors, we should still get a good show with around 10 to 20 meteors an hour." Perseids Born of Comet Leftovers In general, meteors are produced when small dust grains from space impact Earth's atmosphere at high speeds. "The streak of light we see is this debris burning up because of friction with the atmosphere," Todd said. Trickles of wayward meteors are visible year-round in any clear night sky. A meteor shower happens when bunches of them fall over a few particular nights of the year. CONTINUE READING: news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/08/110811-perseids-meteor-shower-peak-full-moon-space-science/?source=link_tw201100811news-perseid
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Post by lois on Aug 11, 2011 22:48:58 GMT -6
I just seen a fireball going south from the north about two hours ago, Im going back out.. It is going on 12 now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 19:10:53 GMT -6
thanks auntym, I wasnt aware til you posted the article that next months draconids were gonna be that spectacular (except for the full moon), but it still should put on a good show. Were under cloudy skies today and last night there were high cirrus clouds but I still managed to take some astrophotos of the moon. Ill try to post them when I get them uploaded. Lois, im glad you got to see some fireballs, ,,, no ufos yet but as sure as Im sitting here writing this, that one that Ray and I saw over pomme de terre lake a few years ago was the quickest object ive ever witnessed and I may never know for sure just exactly what it was.
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