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Post by CitizenK on Jan 5, 2011 2:23:12 GMT -6
And the plot thickens ... A LIST of LOCATIONS that have FALLING BIRDS and DEAD FISH in 2011 Quote This thread was started to keep recent reports of dead birds and fish in one place, to make it easier to read. Most links and information are provided by GLP members here, if anyone finds an error in the list or links, please let me know, and I'll try to update it. 2011 Week 1 FALLING/Dead BIRDS Kentucky QTY < 100 Type: Small Birds (not Stated) Suspected Cause Cold Stress Actual Cause : Unknown
Louisiana QTY 500 Type: Starlings and Blackbirds Suspected Cause : Weather Actual: Unknown Links:
Arkansas QTY ~5000 Type: Blackbird, Starling, Grackle Suspected Cause : weather/fireworks Actual Cause : Unknown Links:
Arizona QTY >65 Type: Bats Suspected cause : Weather Actual Cause : Unknown
Japan QTY < 30 Type: Various (Mainly Swan/Heron) Suspected Cause : Bird Flu Actual: Unknown Links :
DEAD FISH
Arkansas > 100,000 Type: Drum Suspected Cause Actual Cause Unknown Links:
Maryland > 10,000 Type: Menhayden, spots and croakers/various Suspected Cause Cold Stress Actual Cause : Unknown Links:
South Wales (UK) QTY>~ 100's Type: Various Carp/Bream/Other Suspected Cause Cold Weather Actual Cause Unknown Links:
Brazil QTY: ~Millions (100 tons) Type: Sardines Suspected cause :Unknown Actual Cause : Unknown Links:
Italy (Scarlino) QTY 100,000s Type: Clams/Small fish/Shellfish/Crabs/Flatfish Suspected Cause : Pollution Actual Cause : Unknown Links :
New Zealand Type: Snapper
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 5, 2011 2:57:05 GMT -6
UFO Spotted Amid Starling Deaths By Chris Capps 1/2/11
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Crow_1.jpg The object reported to the Mutual UFO Network in all the cases, starting with one report coming from Arlington Texas, sees a large distant orb of light hovering and traveling through the skies. In some cases it simply drifts, in another case the orb changes direction and moves in a straight line away from the witnesses and in yet another it is spotted in a photograph and only noticed by the witness afterward.
While it may be unrelated, and it's easy to tie strings together where no incidents really relate to one another, the massive bird die off seems to be getting a lot of attention in the UFO community (at least one mention could be spotted on MUFON and dozens of others appeared on forum posts across the globe). One of the more prominent theories is that some sort of cloaking device might have made a solid ship invisible for a period of time so the birds flying in a flock would have bumped against it and died. This was a theory that was popular during the Starling die off in the UK last year. The reason that theory worked in that case was because all the birds were found essentially in the same place. In this case the birds were discovered all over the town.
When one witness saw the strange sphere in Arlington Texas they had to consult with a girlfriend to make sure the object wasn't just an optical illusion. When they confirmed it was a solid object moving across the sky to the east, they couldn't help but wonder if the object could be of extraterrestrial origin. Eventually they lost sight of it. This incident happened directly southwest of Beebee an estimated four or so hours before the die off took place. And while the two cities are in different states, they are directly connected by I-30.
The next incident happened the next night south of Beebee in Minden Louisiana. The object spotted was an orb or disc that was was pulsing colors and eventually disappeared. The object's relationship to Beebee is it is also southeast, although at a steeper angle than Arlington. It also connects to Arlington where the first incident took place by I-20. This incident happened shortly before the first.
On the morning of the second, a witness reported from Bowling Green, Kentucky that he was out when he noticed a strange spherical object moving across the sky very quickly. Though it didn't move as fast as a meteor, it did appear to be moving at an incredible speed.
Were these objects somehow related? Did the witnesses involved all see the same object? And was it this object that is responsible for the deaths of so many birds?
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Post by skywalker on Jan 5, 2011 13:50:37 GMT -6
This is an excellent thread Citizenk. I am really curious to learn more about it. There have been a lot of mass kills of various animals in the past and they sometimes seem to run in cycles for some reason. It is interesting that Arkansas has had both fish and birds kill over.
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 5, 2011 23:04:43 GMT -6
One 'claimed' autopsy of the Arkansas birds says they died from blood clots, I can't find it on the net to verify yet. Will provide it when I do. Also,the list continues to grow! World wide it seems. And China has stated that it is a possible pole shift (magnetic) taking place causing all the deaths of birds,bats,fish,and other marine life. maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b&ll=28.921631,5.273438&spn=141.542315,12.304687&z=2&iwloc=0004991c2e41cf55affcb (this is a google map,scroll thru the list to your left to read all info to date )
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 6, 2011 0:15:34 GMT -6
I wonder if any of you know how to overlay one map to another...maybe we could take the map of the death toll of animals and overlay it with a map that outlines the fault lines in the world or just one country that has been affected greatly? Possibly this does have something to do with a magnetic pole shift and if it does maybe it is affecting animals in those areas more than in other areas and perhaps we could figure where else it may affect them...just a thought, I may be WAY off the mark thinking the fault lines would show more significance in a shift than in other areas. But fault lines do go through the ocean and land masses and since we have marine and fowl lifeforms dying,I thought it might correspond.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2011 0:21:30 GMT -6
I think that's as good an explanation as any because I'm sure there HAS to be some connection. They keep saying that it's not unusual for animals to die off but all at once like this? It's either something magnetic, or electrical OR..something being put into the atmosphere. In my humble opinion dat is
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 6, 2011 0:47:38 GMT -6
Maybe more evidence pointing towards earths magnetics changing in some way....here's a quote and the link to where I got it from. Katherina Yancy with Today's THV found one bird still living. It was confused, injured, continuously walked in circles and didn't make a sound or attempt to fly. www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=136195also interesting to note is that the crew that went out to collect the birds in Arkansas wore hazmat suits...maybe standard operating procedure but still eerie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2011 4:58:44 GMT -6
Jo, it could be something in the atmosphere too which is killing the birds... but what about the fishies?
I want to say it's chemicals they dumped into the water. If the fish get poisoned by it, and the birds eat the fish, then the birds die too.
Possibly the chemicals they dumped into the gulf from the oil spill?
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Post by uncled on Jan 6, 2011 7:35:21 GMT -6
I have seen many times , flocks of birds rising from their roosts in tree lines. It is amazing the numbers involved and the way their weight lowers and strains the branches - - easily in the thousands for one tree ! IMHO if a sudden tornado were to come through, not even touching the ground, they would incur extreme damage before ever gaining flight control :-)
The DNR or whatever they call themselves now are often poisoning bodys of water to eliminate gizzard shad. They are quite secret about some of their operations so would not likely make it well known if they were at fault in some way. The wolf and bobcat relocations and species swaps between jurisdictions are frequent and sometimes disastrous . The locals are seldom allowed to input reason with these idiots.
It would be nice if the truth be availed us even if wikileaks has to do it LOL
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Post by uncled on Jan 6, 2011 8:26:40 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Jan 6, 2011 8:30:25 GMT -6
I think that's as good an explanation as any because I'm sure there HAS to be some connection. They keep saying that it's not unusual for animals to die off but all at once like this? It's either something magnetic, or electrical OR..something being put into the atmosphere. In my humble opinion dat is Hi, Jo. Thanks for starting this thread. This is very interesting. Mass animal die offs happen every now and then, sometimes they even appear to be suicides. Whole pods of whales have beached themselves at times and chose to die rather than go back in the water. In the late 1800s there were giant squid beaching themselves and dying. Nobody knows why it happens, but there's got to be a reason for it. For so many birds and fish to be dying off at once there has to be something big going on. Maybe this has something to do with the eerie feelings that some people have been having...a change is coming.
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Post by halfsack13 on Jan 6, 2011 8:32:15 GMT -6
things like this always make me ask myself : what do the animals know that we dont
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Post by sansseed on Jan 6, 2011 8:37:47 GMT -6
uncled, I agree with you about the DNR. They are a shady group of characters with a hidden agenda. The area where I grew up was a very rural area, and the DNR had as much power/jurisdiction as the state boys. For years they refused to acknowledge that we had bobcats in the area (a population they "tinkered" with), even though there were reports from all over the area. We even had one that frequented our camp, and seen by several people. A few years back a woman hit one with her car, and still they refused to acknowledge. It wasn't until this past year that they finally acknowledged that there are bobcats in the area.
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Post by uncled on Jan 6, 2011 12:29:11 GMT -6
And I agree with you :-) And there are others that would agree also. I saw the attempts of "those people" in the UP to deny the presence of Cougars that had been reported by quite a few people. One was hit and killed and no longer could they deny !! I have a lady friend that live trapped a female Bobcat here in IA and learned from her that her acquaintances had set a live cam watching a den with a litter of young - - They counted four different times the adults would drag white tail fawns into the den for the young. The deer population has dropped dramatically just over the last couple of years and the Bobcats seem to be thriving:-) My first thought in learning this was how many insurance company lobbyists were busy behind the scene reducing the claims for auto deer damage ? The deer do cause lots of wrecks and deaths and I'm sure the reduction of those types of accidents would count in the many thousands of dollars profits for the insurance companies. I will add this link to give an idea of other things that I worry about. www.bowhunting.net/artman/publish/Lobo_Watch/How_Legal_Was_The_Introduction_Of_Canadian_Wolves_Into_The_Northern_Rockies.shtmlA few years ago the walnut logs were sold off surrounding property at one of the state lakes here. - - - No bids , Just an under the table deal. Who pocketed all the cash for that ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2011 12:39:27 GMT -6
I love it that this thread is getting good attention because I have this little nagging tickle at the base of my spine..shiver. They mentioned it again on the news last night..another flock of Jackdaws this time. The news said that..it's starting to attract a lot of opinions and worries even in the scientific community. I think we might be understandably concerned. You make great points CitizenK..everyone has. Lets stay with this one please?
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Post by lois on Jan 6, 2011 19:36:50 GMT -6
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Post by lois on Jan 6, 2011 19:40:57 GMT -6
nked to UFO Cloaking Technology Bird deaths Published: 2011-01-05 Submitted by Dave Masko In what’s viewed as a scene from a horror movie, both birds and other wildlife are dying on a massive scale from Beebee, Arkansas, to central Oregon coast beaches and beyond; while the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) points to alien technology as interfering with bird migration patterns and other factors as UFO visits become more prominent in the new year. MUFON’s “UFO community” has been sending out guidance to investigators of the mysterious bird and wildlife animal deaths. One popular theory among UFO experts is a “cloaking device,” used to make alien spacecraft invisible, as possibly causing the birds in Arkansas and other areas to fly into it and die as birds often do when encountering aircraft flying at vast speeds. Because UFO sightings are often over bodies of water, such as the Arkansas River, MUFON believes the dead drum fish that’s been reported in the hundreds of thousands may be linked to exposure to UFO craft and lights. “There’s been regular UFO sightings south of Beebee in Minden, Louisiana. The object spotted was an orb or disc that was pulsing colors and eventually disappeared. The object’s relationship to what’s been happening in BeeBee is not yet known,” stats a MUFON official. MUFON also reports other massive bird and wildlife deaths, to include recent deaths of sea lions and thousands of star fish here at Stonefield Beach, is “appearing almost regularly across the globe.” Locals here at Stonefield Beach can still recall how the noise of dead sea lions stretched like a tight wire through the air as dozens of these mammals gasped for their last breath along this lonely stretch of beach where regular UFO sightings are reported. While such information would have been dismissed as foolish a few years ago, that’s not the case today with most people believing in alien visitors, says a MUFON spokesman here at Stonefield Beach. Meanwhile, both American and foreign scientists believe the recent deaths of tens of thousands of birds is due to “atmospheric phenomena.” Still, they’ve not ruled out theories offered by MUFON. Stonefield is a popular location for Oregon “watchers” viewing of unidentifiable flying object (UFO) sightings via “catching some lights” at this remote location along the central Oregon coast that has become ground zero for strange winter solstice happenings. MUFON advisors and members of “The Trails End Paranormal Society of Oregon” have been busy as of late with numerous worldwide queries about the recent bird and wildlife deaths. In fact, MUFON is tracking UFO sightings near Elista, the capital of the Republic of Kalmykia in southern Russia. According to reports, more than 200 people in Elista reported UFO sightings over a ten-day period beginning Dec. 22, 2010. MUFON and other European Union UFO organizations dispatched investigators to Elista and were told by witnesses about two “concentric circles in the sky over the city with birds massing near the circles. Bright lights were also reported in and around the city as UFO sightings continue into the new year. At the same time, MUFON reports more “is being revealed globally about contacts with UFOs,” to include a statement from WikiLeaks Julian Assange that his international organization has “thousands of UFO documents” that MUFON believes will shed new light on why there’s been so many recent UFO sightings, and how are the sightings related to recent deaths of birds, fish and other wildlife worldwide. “If WikiLeaks has UFO documents that can help explain on all these mysterious bird and other animal deaths, than the world should know about it. WikiLeaks is said to have UFO documents that have never seen the light of day and that interests us,” noted a MUFON spokesman. For example, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, who’s a former head of state of the Republic of Kalmykia and current the Chairman of the World Chess Federation, was quoted by Pravda on Dec. 29, 2010, that NASA has “4,000 UFO documents” that need to be disclosed. Ilyumzhinov also noted that he “was not surprised” about these continuing UFO sightings over his city because he’s claimed to have “met and communicated with extraterrestrial creatures.” permanent link: www.ufocasebook.com/2011/ufoswildlifedeaths.html
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2011 21:28:08 GMT -6
Well I'm not sure I buy into the 'cloaking' theory only because they'd have to be all over the place and why wouldn't planes run into them too? There are reports in China, Switzerland and other areas outside of the US. At least some of the birds examined had internal damage..makes me wonder about radical wind turbulence of some kind..but then there are the fish. I'm willing to listen to just about any idea but maybe something a bit more magnetic, or electric rather than cast off Romulan technology That's just from my corner tho...could be anything.
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Post by skywalker on Jan 6, 2011 23:08:12 GMT -6
One 'claimed' autopsy of the Arkansas birds says they died from blood clots, I can't find it on the net to verify yet. The birds could have developed the internal injuries and bloodclots after hitting the ground if they fell from a great height. that could explain why they died, but what made them fall?
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 7, 2011 0:31:56 GMT -6
There's a guy on Coast to coast right now talking about the birds,etc. he says there was a flux in our magnetic core(?) on Dec. 31st after this break he will explain it all. Also,good point to make is that the agency that is tallying and always has tallied these mass animals deaths is not an environmental group it is the U.S> Geological Survey! Food for thought folks,food for thought...why would they be commissioned with this watch? Unless they know something is happening already and they are watching for it.
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Post by CitizenK on Jan 7, 2011 1:17:48 GMT -6
The man on C2C says the birds at least could've been affected do to a solar flux.So I looked into it . We did have a solar flux earth facing on Dec. 31 2010 and again on Jan. 3-4,and 4-5 also . Here's a clip and a link... A coronal hole (CH431) in the northern hemisphere was in an Earth facing position on January 3-4. A recurrent trans equatorial coronal hole (CH432) was Earth facing on January 4-5. A recurrent coronal hole (CH433) in the northern hemisphere will likely rotate into an Earth facing position on January 9-11. www.solen.info/solar/He says this would not affect fish in his opinion,and perhaps he is right,I don't know if fish travel the magnetic ley lines for certain (though I was under the impression that they do.) So he thinks the fish marine lives were affected from something from the core up...and yes, I looked into this as well. As it turns out , there really aren't any significant quakes that have happened in or near the areas most affected with fish or marine life that I can see. So maybe it isn't quakes that did it but a pulse put out by the core in a different way? I don't know. But I will be keeping my eyes and thoughts on this subject until I feel satisfied as to why it is happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2011 15:05:22 GMT -6
Well...everyone (scientifically minded everyone's that is) is saying not to underrate what will happen with the sun in the next year. (Including Michio Kaku). I have a space weather thingy on my computer (isn't that a cute scientific term..thingy?) Anyway it says that "Earth is inside a solar wind stream flowing from the indicated coronal hole". www.spaceweather.com/If you don't follow this stuff..you might want to bookmark this site it's pretty interesting. I do find it 'interesting' the the USGS is the group following up on this. I think the USGS site and the other one are good ones to have for the sake of it. The so called 'ring of fire' has been VERY busy lately..lots of biggish quakes...heaven only knows what gases are cruising the atmosphere. earthquake.usgs.gov/
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Post by skywalker on Jan 7, 2011 18:09:58 GMT -6
Why would some solar flux thingy cause birds to drop down out of the sky? And why only in a few small local areas? It seems to me if the sun were involved stuff would be dropping all over the place.
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Post by sansseed on Jan 7, 2011 18:37:25 GMT -6
Good question skywalker. I have no answer, but I would think the sun (solar flares/storms) and earth magnetic issues would mess with all of us, and in ways we really don't understand. I mean, we are influenced by the moon, weather, air pressure so, why wouldn't we be influenced by larger things like the sun?
Then when you speak of animals, they work on a much more sensitive level than we do (animals moving away from the shoreline prior to a tsunami is a good example). So, again, I would think the above issues would affect them, maybe even causing erratic behavior.
There is so much about our natural world that we do not understand. Plus, I think through the years of evolution we lost a part of ourselves that was more connected with nature.
But, I'm no scientist and this is all conjecture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2011 19:22:43 GMT -6
Well at this point..our conjecture is certainly no worse than alien cloaking devices
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Post by sansseed on Jan 7, 2011 20:41:16 GMT -6
Ha! I should have said "my conjecture", but you are right.
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