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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 23:58:41 GMT -6
Very interesting Steve... they genetically engineered their hearts to last longer? Interesting...
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2011 0:18:10 GMT -6
I remembered when posting the last session (number 13) that we did not ask your music question. Thank you for reminding me and for your patience. I will send Mary a email suggesting it for this Sunday's usual session. Sorry about the world series Sky, and conversely...congratulations to touched. The SF Giants were no where close, so I did not watch any of it. ;D Tony La Russa lives in the SF Bay area and is much admired here. Lives here perhaps from when he was managing the A's. Tony is head of the ARF (Animal Rescue Foundation) too. Good for him! www.arf.net/Steve
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2011 0:30:12 GMT -6
Very interesting Steve... they genetically engineered their hearts to last longer? Interesting... Imagine what that must have been like? Who was the first? And then think of the philosophical debate that perhaps must have happened concerning that and incorporating it into every new born's body since? There (Han's) world structure must be a one world government of sorts. A telepathic society you would think would seem to almost preclude that. Humans being individuals with their own opinions can't even come to a consensus about whether their children should have certain inoculations or not, or if fluoride should be added into their public drinking water. See how Han's home world in some ways is so radically different in structure from ours? I do not place a value on either, just it appears quite noticable where the focus is for each. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Oct 29, 2011 10:33:40 GMT -6
We already genetically modify plants and animals to be the way we want them to be, to increase productivity and yield. I'm sure they are already experimenting with doing it to people. I know the Nazis did a lot of work in that area but they were doing it for the wrong reasons. I'm not really sure if people would ever agree that there are right ones.
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Post by paulette on Oct 29, 2011 11:22:40 GMT -6
"Part of our reason for being in touch with you is to monitor, and without your knowledge help your planet continue to be the garden of great diversity and abundance and life that it is known for by many species. You planet is a garden that needs to be preserved. In opinion of many species, the human species still remains in doubt due to its overpopulation and continued growth. Overpopulation is the danger that we would like to see avoided." - Steve interpreting Han -
I just watched Ancient Aliens on TV a couple of nights ago and they cobbled together the theory that UFOs and also appearances of beings interpreted as beings that fit a local cultural manifestation (such as the Virgin Mary) were present before plagues began in many places and in many cultures. It seems obvious that if an overseeing species is attempting to preserve a natural environment, that they might feel the need to reduce the population of a runaway species. That would be us.
Also Han states that the Annunukei did come and live in the Sumerian area for awhile and bend the people to their will. Gardner (as well as Sitchin I believe) write that early groups of humans were breeding too fast and were wiped out in a flood (which well might be THE FLOOD in pre-biblical times (other mythologies) as well as in the Old Testament. And there is a rather gruesome Sumerian quote regarding people lying in piles dying as a result of one factor of the Annunukei who wanted to done with the human experiment. Han always sounds gentle and courteous but one should carefully unpack what he reveals. Not that anyone can DO anything about the fact that we may have overseers who cull our herd, track individuals and family lines over lifetimes in spite of those folks' best efforts to not be taken again, and who ultimately, due to technology and superior intelligence can do whatever they want. To us. And our planet.
I think the gentle nature of these revelations coupled with the content (which is to me overwhelming) is why my spidey sense kicked in awhile back. I can't not read this stuff. However reading it offers some choices - but none of those choices involve saying ain't so. One can be angry, or dissociative, or believe that one's luck or God or Fate will protect one. None of that is terriby useful, except perhaps total acceptance and trying to manifest loving kindness to all sentient beings as the Tibetian Buddhists do. Who seem to already be aware of the ET thing if the Dalai Lama's remarks to Mack mean what they seem to mean. All one can do is live as usefully and contentedly as possible.
I am now personally leaning to the interpretation that I have a transponder within me and that whenever I actually open up to communication with the Others - I get some sort of response. I don't expect to be rescued or helped out much but hey...if I get jammed up I ask for help from anyone who is listening.
If anyone here watches Fringe - the pale Otherly beings who seem to be our monitors sometimes do things reluctantly because they have to be done to maintain or restore the balance. I would like to think that malevolence is a lower emotional state and that whatever happens to us individually or as a population of humans is done with the best interests of the planet and ALL Gaia's inhabitants in mind.
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2011 13:12:31 GMT -6
Never heard of 'Fringe'. Sounds like a television show? Thanks.
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 14:33:44 GMT -6
Maybe Han watches fringe
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Post by Steve on Oct 29, 2011 16:25:26 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 18:21:38 GMT -6
lol @ Jo
lol @ Steve
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Post by lois on Oct 29, 2011 21:33:22 GMT -6
I would love to know if they can communicate with you in your dreams.. It is a long ask question for me.. Or can they manipulate your dream in any sense? Maybe a dream state is easier for them to communitcate with us rather than when we are awake..also do they convey future events to one while sleeping?
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Post by skywalker on Oct 29, 2011 21:57:50 GMT -6
I would say to all of those questions, Shami. I have experienced every one of them and I think that somebody was communicating.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2011 22:19:44 GMT -6
Lois, I'm not so sure about it, but when I was 19 I had a dream about a female gray alien showing me apocalyptic scenes through doorways in a long white hallway... a lot of experiencers say that aliens show them these things usually. I didn't know that when I had the dream... it may or may not have been a dream... but I perceived it as a dream.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 0:45:38 GMT -6
I don't know about dreams..I seldom remember mine but..I definitely believe they manipulate our wee brains..and it's probably easier when we sleep. I think though if mine were messed with I'd feel the enormous awful pressure that I did the last time. That was no stab at communication..that was just pure control. Be good and the pain goes away kind of manipulation.
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Post by Steve on Oct 31, 2011 1:23:37 GMT -6
Thanks, sky. I know you're just trying to reassure me. I don't know "who" Han is. If I tell him off, am I telling off steve??? I think JCurio you are asking the same question in every session that I am asking. I am enjoying these sessions, but I also have this 'detachment' I did not expect. Not unenthusiastic, just stepping back objectively with the rest of you. I feel very relaxed and calm during these sessions too, it is very therapeutic in general. So I could be misinterpreting my detachment for calm. What is happening is all rather beautiful. In the regressions, I am as 'Steve' expected to step aside. But I also seem to have this added sense about what Han might seem to be saying, while Mary just hears the words. It is very interesting, and sometimes entertaining. Today's session Mary asked Sky's question about music, Lois's about whether they can plant thoughts while you are sleeping or dreaming. There was a revealing comment about Han's species which Mary did not expect she thought was quite humorous. How the teenage forms of their species play scary games learning about their autonomic reflexes. Their teens go through a rebellious phase too challenging their own norms. Han commented about Presidential alien secrets, and answered Mary's question about rumors of a meeting long ago at 'Hollowman AFB' in New Mexico. I am always asking if this is real, or is it a metaphor holding a mirror back looking upon ourselves? It could also be both. Alien explanations would only naturally compel us to reflect. I commented to Mary that 'experiencers' (abductees) might find many of the questions and answers here very uncomfortable. Mary agreed, this would very understandable. During the regressions, there seems to be a clear separation of personalities between myself and 'Han'. I wasn't too sure, so I asked Mary about that. Mary reports there are clearly two personalities. There is no dramatic contrast, just someone else is speaking according to Mary. Some of the answers I know I could not possibly answer, and other questions I would have given completely different answers. You can reject Han without rejecting me, don't worry. It is still hard for me to think a Han might be out there. I seem to be very useful according to Mary because I describe in great detail. Han revealed about his role in his society. Are these sessions a telescope gazing upon something new, or a mirror reflecting back upon ourselves? Either possibility would not necessarily be a bad thing. Safer if labeled as fiction, and better off only hinting in the back of the readers mind could it be real? Or just as is, with the bark on? Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 10:25:56 GMT -6
It took me a bit of 'soul' searching Steve..then crossing my fingers and just hoping before I was able to admit I'm skeptical about Han..because I didn't want to hurt you. Yes..some of the answers are unsettling. I suppose I've been feeling that races treading on our turf should police one another. In other words..do something about creatures abducting our people. Then too..it bothers me that 'they' know quite as much about our people and our history. Either they've been picking a lot of brains or they have been way too interested in us for a long long time. Don't they have their own home to take care of? Why..in a big big galaxy...far from them..us? I do have trust issues that this is an ET and not some sort of fun loving demon or something closer to home. Still...it's very interesting to read, I look forward to your sessions and hope you don't get bored with it too soon
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Post by Steve on Oct 31, 2011 13:17:59 GMT -6
"His (Han's) personality is really starting to show itself now. I have observed the following emotions in him: humor, curiosity, surprise, warmth, satisfaction, generosity. That is quite a number of traits/emotions for a species that has muted its emotional response. Mary"
Hi Jo, Thanks. Some of Mary's observations about Han's personality. I should quip reply that these emotions would make for the ideal boy friend or girl friend too!
Well, it is not a demon for sure, and Mary's radar would have detected this early on.
They do know a vast amount about us. They are discrete about learning about us perhaps for the very reason you raise in your post. How it distresses us to know that.
In the latest session, Mary asked Han if there were any alien hybrids living here, and what their living setting was like. Han described four teenage looking hybrids living near the Berkeley UC campus in an older home in a fraternity setting, three males and one female. Seems I am 'remote viewing' now too?
Han described how hard it was to integrate into human society with so many physical records in our computer systems. What about money? Food? Relationships outside their secret circle? Their landlord regards them as good tenets, immaculately clean and quiet, Ideal tenets if a bit strange. But for Berkeley? How they have to form relationships, then over time break these relationships and move on and relocate. Knowing a bit about Berkeley humorously, such a setting for hybrids might be ideal to blend into.
About protection.... I did not add in my earlier comment that Han did comment about other species policing our area of space, including our little lush blue green island. It will be near the end of this next session I recall. That the Earth is protected from any species wishing to invade, damage. Mary found it very reassuring. I did not mention that because I knew here how it might be received. A skeptical 'Oh sure!'. Also an image of former Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain waving a piece of paper declaring 'peace in our times' came to my mind how foolish it would be if anything bad was ever to occur too. It all does sound a bit much.
It seems Earth is considered ours and it's value as a garden is too valuable in a larger context for many species for just one off world influence to hold unto itself and squander. That abductions occur shows this protection is far from perfect. Han's mentions that some of the entities perpetrating these abductions are some like Han's species too, among others. Like humans, Han's species is a mix too. Should we ask then would more abductions among other things occur if there was not this 'protection'?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2011 23:32:42 GMT -6
"it is very therapeutic in general. " (from steve; reply #193) Please explain Thanks Steve!
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Post by skywalker on Nov 1, 2011 16:17:45 GMT -6
I think that humans behave pretty much the same way towards animals that these aliens do towards humans. Some people harvest animals for food or their fur, some people keep them as pets, others do everything in their power to stop the first two groups. I doubt that all aliens, even of the same species, would behave in exactly the same way.
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2011 13:03:13 GMT -6
HAN Through Steve ______________under Hypnosis Therapist: Mary _______________
Session XIV (14) October 30, 2011
Steve was inducted, given some therapy and then Steve invited the being known as Han to step forward. Steve was restless and it took a little longer than usual.
Steve: I see trees.
I feel a fluttering in my third eye which is an indication of telepathy. Han will, because of our limitations, speak orally, but he is also speaking telepathically to both of us.
Steve: It is harder to find Han this time. It is kind of murky. He is just moving us into a different setting. I am trying not to be too anxious. I have to get rid of that. (Long sigh.) I am trying to relax.
Just be an observer. That is all. Focus on the place between your two eyebrows. You may feel a kind of fluttering, almost like soft butterfly wings. He has some big things today.
Steve: That’s better.
Yes. So, he says that the best communication is effortless and for you to remain in an effortless state of mind as we continue with our sessions. There will be new experiences so, to make these more available, remain in an effortless state of mind. I can feel his affection and even his enjoyment in wanting to take us to these new places and experiences.
Han. When you are ready, please let us know.
Han: Yes. I am ready.
EARTH HISTORY
ZETA RETICULI HISTORY
I would like to talk to you about the autonomic system. I don’t know if it is autonomic for you, but are you able to slow down your heart rate and respiration, not for sleep, but to go into a state of hibernation?
We often slow down our autonomic reflexes when we are telepathic. It might, in human terms, be considered a form of meditation. At present, my abilities (autonomic responses) are slowed down already. This comes unconsciously. It is possible to slow down our autonomic rates. Often young teenager forms of our species, to use your term, in our species use this as a game among themselves to slow them down. They use it to frighten the older ones. It is just the young ones being challenging and rebellious. So we have more in common than we first revealed. It is often used as a kind of game. But it is also a game that does ultimately have a useful purpose.
Mischievous is what I call it. (Therapist is laughing about the thought of alien children playing this game.)
Mischievous is a good human word. Often, though, this can be a good survival trait in situations where, in order to survive until we can be rescued, it can be used as a form of survival technique. What children of our species use for mischief in slowing their autonomic systems to what might be considered near death, they always come back but they learn a useful tool for use perhaps later on in life. Sometimes the concern with the young ones is in their lack of discipline and experience that naturally occurs at that age learning that they do no harm themselves daring to lower their autonomic reflexes dangerously low. Many of our species are welcomed to follow and explore new thoughts. Often they will go to mediate and contemplate deep thoughts about many things in the universe, science, mathematics and physics.
Do they also contemplate music?
Yes. We do have music in our culture and is so in many other off world cultures. Music is many things to many species. Music has a deep impact on our existence because our very origin is connected with sound. In a way, all objects in the universe are created in a resonance of vibrations. Many of these vibrations are sound vibrations. Music is, in a way, a universal language.
You anticipated my next question.
If used intelligently, music can nourish and heal. There is a strange and unusual connection between mathematics and music. Music is the only art form where its unique form and the medium are the same.
Yes. We have noted the connection but I do not know how to describe it. A balance, an exploration seems to be a part of it.
Mathematics is the only science where the method and the subject are uniquely the same too. Mathematics can only be studied by using mathematics.
Indeed.
Music is only created and experienced as music so there is a natural connection between mathematics and music. Both are experienced as pure objects of the brain by your species and by many other species of the universe. Only through these artificial connections does the method of music and mathematics have meaning that extends beyond from one mind to another mind.
It is very interesting how a jazz musician works with others. In what might seem like chaos on the surface, they automatically, as a group, almost telepathically synch together and create a structure.
It is a beneficial exercise both to the music makers and to the listeners to enjoy. It is a celebration of this communication in a way that seems alternate to normal communications. We are not unfamiliar with this. Some of our musical instruments are different, and they create sounds with many unique properties. The music though, in patterns and rhythms is not dissimilar to human music. I mentioned earlier, Mozart, but there are many others by your contemporary view, which reflect multiple layers of communication. In many ways, not dissimilar to telepathic thought where many rhythms of thought and emotions are expressed simultaneously, particularly in forms that you refer to as classical music. The great range of emotions (emoted by classical music) surpasses some other forms of human music which are just as beautiful in their own right.
Music creates a sympathetic vibration and enhances our emotional vibration.
There is a strange interpretation by intelligent minds that enjoys that resonance. We too can enjoy these vibrations. Humans who do not enjoy mathematics are often humorously counting when they are enjoying music. When humans enjoy music they are unconsciously enjoying mathematics. Mathematics is a true universal language but music follows spiritually in harmony very closely. It is not a surprise that the form and function of each are the same,
I would like, at some other time, to have a more detailed conversation with you about mathematics and music.
I will try to answer your questions.
You have been very kind.
SPIRITUALITY
CONTACT
Han. Steve told me earlier you were in a forest. Did you take us to this place because of our request last time to perhaps interact with a hybrid culture?
No. I took us there to help Steve relax temporarily until we could go to that place that I promised we would visit together.
Yes. He is rather excited today.
He is having problems visiting this particular time and he does not know why. He apologizes. He is quite comfortable now so we will go to the other place with him.
Yes. He so enjoys it. There is so much on the agenda I scarcely know where to start.
The Hybrid world is available for us to visit. We can also visit hybrids here at this place (Earth) if you choose.
Wherever there is a culture, we would be happy to visit. Please, let’s go ahead with that process and if you would be kind enough to describe that for us. By the way, I did feel the pulsing in my forehead, just to acknowledge. Yes, we would very much enjoy that so if you will be so kind, thank you.
We are on Earth, in a college setting, like a fraternity house. It is somewhere in……the students in this house are all hybrids. They are a little cell unto themselves. In the isolation of this house they are comfortable among themselves. It is their “away” place where they can feel solitude while taking steps to venture out into this planet’s society. It is their retreat where they live, exist. There are 4 hybrids living here, 1 female and 3 male. They live together, each in their separate rooms. They communicate with each other telepathically and they can communicate with us. They are about college age in appearance and they often wear sunglasses and other disguises so that their features, though human, still have a certain strange appearance features that other students on the street and in the community might find striking. They are trying to blend in. They are not lonely. They have each other and this has been arranged this way so they can help assimilate themselves into the culture. They often have a pale complexion that is not too dissimilar from many humans that age who often wear strange clothes and also display such a complexion. So, they can blend into this without much difficulty. Outside of this community they might be a little more striking. They seem to be accepted. It is the Berkeley community setting with a lot of old rustic homes used as fraternity and sorority houses. They cannot wear pierced jewelry or ‘tattoos’. These are abhorrent in hybrid society, and it would also quickly reveal their identity having such local tribal cultural ornaments applied. I am not sure they are connected with the University. It is just a house in which they live. They seem to be getting nutrients and food from outside sources by frequent alien visitors. They also seem to be eating some human foods, fruit in particular and other things that help them cross over. They are rather thin and they wear normal clothing – jeans, shirts and blouses. They often wear sunglasses outside, not due to the sun but to conceal their eyes that look a bit striking to humans. They are rather dark and slanted. Living in a earth society where the image of ‘aliens’ on book covers and other sources has permeated human culture to such an extent they might be easily recognized. They wear sunglasses to help conceal this.
Did they arrive at their destination as young adults?
They were created aboard a craft through genetic engineering and then as, children, were placed in a home where they could transition and become exposed to other humans. They looked not dissimilar to humans so the main sense is to learn the ways and actions of humans, but their behavior patterns, like language slang and their motivations seem awkward. It has often been commented that hybrids seem awkward in your society. This has been the main focus in recent times to help this awkwardness disappear. It is an added level of integration that requires more time to blend in perfectly. It is a reflection on the hybrid program that integration is such that as much as humans often comment about ‘hybrids’, humans never still seem to show evidence of such a being in their midst. Yet, we still recognize each other. With the hybrids that are there, I can communicate with them telepathically. They seem to be aware of us now and are not concerned because I am here as an intermediary, as a guest to telepathically assure them that their identities have not been exposed. They maintain a certain privacy and secrecy only for the alarm that it might cause to some humans surrounding them in the community. They seem to be working in some jobs. Some are attending school. The ones in school are doing very well. They learn very quickly. They are regarded by their instructors as very gifted.
Is it not a concern that they might appear as too gifted?
I understand. They are conscious of this and try not to do too perfectly in that regard. The knowledge is, in a way, already known but it is important to learn it in a human context which can be slow and in some ways they are impatient with this. They compensate by learning the social skills within the classroom and with the instructor and their interaction in class. They avoid the cafeterias mainly because the food is not much to their liking and they are very selective. The social situations are a bit less controlled their too where they could appear less adaptable to the unexpected (events) around them. The classroom is a setting by contrast that is somewhat controlled where the focus is very fundamental. This can easily be accommodated by them. They often can read the thoughts of the students in class and the instructor. They are very discrete not to plant too many images of themselves that might betray themselves. Sometimes they do get some stares and looks from certain students.
Some human beings do pick up on things. They might not want to name them. Steve had an incident, I think he was at a grocery store, I think it was the cashier, where he felt that person was definitely not from here. I don’t know if you have any information on that.
Humans are very intuitive to the unusual around them. They sometimes pick up on this quickly. It depends on their focus and what they are focused on primarily at the time. Steve was in an electronics store looking for DVD movies and he encountered an entity that came to him that had certain striking physical features which Steve noticed immediately. An image from the book cover 'Communion' was placed in his mind to act as a psychic introduction for him. This was an association that made Steve completely clear that the entity was a hybrid. Steve responded in kind well with a friendly greeting without fear. His thoughts were primarily astonishment. The hybrid appreciated his desgression for not making others around them aware. He was a tall hybrid that was in customer service employee uniforms and blended well into the store culture. The other employees, however, were not aware of him. He must have been able to project into these other employees (some) signals to accept him and that he was a part of them, which is not too difficult for hybrids. The hybrids use a lot of telepathic abilities. Humans do not consciously think often (of aliens). This is a great tool to manipulate their sense of reality around them. It is very effective in making hybrids integrate in their midst without much human awareness of their presence.
Of the group that we are currently with, the 3 males and the 1 female, I assume they are aware that to be part of the human culture they need to have hobbies, interests. Will they tell us about any of the interests that they display superficially, or perhaps they have some interests or hobbies that they actually enjoy?
The interest in cooking does not exist. Their food is supplied to them by visitors who regularly replenish their supply of nutrients at home. So they are rather tied to this location. Their interests in school are in studying the anthropology of the present human within the extent of their understanding of human science and comparing it to their own. There are the other off-world teachers who regularly instruct them as well. In a sense, they have 2 mothers and 2 sets of friends, both at home and on Earth. They are like many exchange students in that academic environment, but in a way that other exchange students could never comprehend. But in social pattern they are really quite similar, just from a place considerably farther away. Science and human sociology are of great interest. Hybrid social behavior by comparison would seem rather dry and sterile. Their home is rather sparse and empty. Certain posters of rock bands and others appear in the home but this more to conceal themselves. (The posters) are not really an interest. It is more to put up the appearance of being human – camouflage.
Part of this process of integration would mean that, at least superficial, they would make friends with humans, maybe have them to their house or go over the humans’ houses. How do they deal with this?
The female has certain male human callers. She is considered attractive to humans, if in some ways perhaps strange. This elicits certain sexual curiosity from the male humans as well. Perhaps her natural distancing from others is interpreted as aloofness which attracts further. The landlord is very happy with these hybrids as tenants. They do not cause trouble and the house is always immaculate. Their appearance of the landlord does not seem to be of much concern as long as he is being paid regularly. How he is being paid seems to be a mystery. They seem to have a certain account where they can draw money from regularly that seems to be readily available to them so they can pay such necessary things necessary in human society and economy.
An average human, especially at that young age, would have a sense of competition that they would take out in sports or they might take out in terms of earning graces, or in competing for the opposite sex. I believe the competition is not a part of your culture. How do they deal with that?
They recognize the instinctual reproductive behavior in their study of human society. They try to mimic this and at the same time they feel it unnecessary. Sometimes human response to this is curious. The more they may appear cold and distant, the more attractive they might inadvertently appear to humans. This is a curious human behavior that perplexes hybrids. Answers come so easily for them. The main focus is social integration. That is their challenge. There is an added stress involved: How to integrate into human culture without becoming too human. Thus denying the other part of their heritage which is off world. This is part of the challenge of the whole hybrid program. It is what I would call having dual identities.
Yes. They exist, but not to the same extent, in for instance if one were an Eskimo but also an American that would be a dual identity. In terms of aloofness and the young woman, when you combine aloofness with attractiveness it spurs interest in competition. Her being aware of her aloofness as the cause of that reaction is true.
They have noticed this. Also, the human part of them, biologically and emotionally, is not diminished. They are dealing with new emotions and drives. The human part cannot be denied in this duality. Their intelligence accepts this duality but there is an emotional price that cannot be repressed. This causes conflicts dealing with the duality. They both enjoy and know their duty or purpose for integrating into society. At the same time they also miss the ones that they can be very comfortable with and they also miss (the) home that they believe is their origin. They sometimes miss home. They do not feel a part of this (Earth) world.
Is it part of their assignment to remain here for a long, long time?
Their exposure is remembered and downloaded and is integrated into the larger context of the human contact (picture).
Wouldn’t they live longer than the normal human?
A point comes where due to their normal life processes, because they do live much longer, have to move often and leave one society and begin again at a different location due to the fact that any long-term contact or relationship, every human will be aging around them and they will still look young. It will begin to betray their identity.
Because of that does that preclude their ever having or creating families with humans?
They are experimenting with that as part of their human social studies. Some excel and some have difficulty. At some point, the human mind is adapting and in a loving way becomes accepting in many relationships that are formed. Certain peculiarities are ignored because, (in the process of) fulfilling their own human needs, they compromise to accept the relationship. They know that one day they will grow older and the hybrid will still be relatively young. The hybrid’s health and diet creates a certain detachment from other institutions such as obtaining a drivers license and health care. The health care is provided off world which means that there is certain disconnect with keeping records of hybrids in human society, legal systems and government. It is a very complex interrelationship.
Yes. I am beginning to see that.
It requires some time too accomplish this and it is not without difficulty. However humans being Earth centered, humans do not consciously think in social relationships beyond their own world anyway, so this helps blending into human society too. Most human expectation of what an ‘alien’ maybe is based only on their own limited human cultural understanding.
Would you please thank them for allowing us to get a little glimpse of their world and a deeper appreciation for their difficulties?
They are in different locations. The female is with a human male. Two others are studying in their home and the other is in a market place, observing. Yet, they are aware of our conversation and they are very touched to be contacted by an entity similar to them that understands and appreciates their presence and understands the kinship. They are moving on and continuing with their duality.
Has your species ever terraformed anything on this Earth?
Not directly. If you could consider in a very rudimentary superficial way the consciousness that has been planted in human society….they refer to it as the environmental movement that is a form of terraforming, mainly for conservation, rather than transformation. In a very superficial form, but it might be considered in that context. In a direct way, however, no. In an indirect way, yes.
I had a question about a tube device at S-4. You discussed the uses of some devices at S-4 and the tube device was one of them.
We talked about the cube device and the tilting device that we had concerns about.
Perhaps I misunderstood and was hearing “tube” device when it was really the “cube” device.
The cube device was our concern. It facilitates a doorway to other dimensions and other timelines. It has been used as a bargaining tool by other species in exchange for permission by certain government authorities for their species to clandestinely abduct certain humans for their species’ own needs or curiosity. This was a deception by this species because the cube can be taken back at any time. It is like giving a child a toy to preoccupy their attention while the thief ransacks the house. I feel this species is deceptive about its own agendas which we watch very carefully and often we stand in between to see that certain boundaries are not abused.
That might be the answer to the question I was about to ask: Why hasn’t the human species already been destroyed by off-planet interests. It sounds like your sentinel kind of prevents this.
We are here to protect. Also, in context of other worlds, this is part of our political posture in relation to these other entities. The Earth has reason to stand up and exist on its own accord, but at the same time, there are entities that see the Earth as very valuable for harvesting. There is no apparent wish to take over the Earth or control it. If they did, they would be stopped by us and others before the Earth would even be aware of it.
I find it ironic that humans are so upset over being genetically sampled and harvested when, in fact, we do the same thing medically to other human beings.
This is true. Like in many human relations we have known, it is all a question of context and how humans see themselves. In a larger context, they are one of many. In their context (they see themselves as) isolated. It is a different view of themselves, perhaps combined with a sense of pride, and how they relate themselves to other life forms. This is understandable in the context of their very limited perspective. Others species do not see that, but that is because they enjoy a much broader perspective that their evolution and technology makes possible. Humans do not yet have this broader perspective.
Was there ever a landing at the Holloman Air Force Base where a large number of personnel were aware of the landing?
In the 1960s there was a contact made at Holloman Air Force Base. It was very secret. It was the initial step that created many of the activities between humans and aliens now at S-4. It provided the pathway for these activities. Some political arrangements were made. Humans really had very little to nothing to bargain with. The aliens were very much restrained by outside pressures such as us, being very aware of their advanced capabilities. The initial contacts were made to establish an understanding. The initial contacts to prepare this meeting were done through a number of government contacts through hybrids and through telepathic contact. It was not readily accepted or understood what these initial contacts were, but, eventually, they were gathered together to form a convention between humans and some species in meeting face-to-face at Holloman in great secrecy.
We are aware that it was covered up quickly. Did you ever receive any information on that scientist known as Dean Judd? He was the science advisor to one of our presidents and was very much interested in life on other planets.
There are a number of scientists who are retained as advisors to the presidents. Some presidents are aware fully of Holloman and Roswell and some are not. It depends on the compartmentalization and the secrecy that humans often use in controlling their secrets. Judd was one who was an advisor to the president among others retained in case certain encounters were made where further government interests may require answers. Some presidents have been aware of alien contact. A few have been deliberately not been informed but the information was there, if later, the need were to arise where it was more efficient for the president to be informed. Some knew from the beginning before they even entered presidential office due to their access to very secret information. This has been kept from the public in the day-to-day activities of the president. This is not a major concern. It is usually knowledge that is held in the background. Many of the contacts exist in such a way that any government or military influence would be inconsequential. There is little they can do to stop the action or to prevent something but the president often wishes to be aware of certain events and these advisors facilitate this.
I am going to be taking a new case and her name is _________. She had an experience in August of __________. She heard something, went outside into her backyard and saw someone on the ground, trying to get up. Her memory is fragmented during the forty minutes that she watched this entity. She said the entity made a chattering sound, cat-like sound and her missing time is interesting. The most peculiar thing is that she talked about “lights” coming out of the orifices and cracks of the entity, including the eyes. She said she heard a screeching sound and she wants me to regress her concerning this. She has had multiple sightings, including seeing a cigar-shaped craft. She thinks it might have been the same craft coming back, but it was noisy. That was different. She said one of the events occurred the same time that there was a blackout on the East Coast. She complains about soreness in her nose that moved from one side to the other. The same condition also affected her son. Do you have any knowledge about these events?
The entity was in an injured state. The energy radiating out the witness noticed perceived as light was actually telepathically manifesting in her mind the great distress this entity was feeling, vulnerable and in fear for its life. This is a normal reaction that telepathic beings use the witness inadvertently discovered. Much bio-luminescent life in your oceans will emit light sending out an alarm instinctually. This being in distress, having now been discovered, was emitting telepathically a scream for help. In such states of extreme stress, it can show up as light telepathically in the mind of others near them. The being feared for its life. Sending out energies normally in those extreme circumstances a human would never notice or understand. It wasn’t actual light the witness saw, but the extreme agitated energy from the being in her mind. This being had become injured, and in her curiosity she approached. She felt compassion, fear and confusion. We knew this from the resonance that permeates the wake of this event. The blackout may have been associated with this entities’ craft interceding in a rescue. The missing time the witness noticed could be a failed attempt to erase her memory completely of the experience. In their haste, a full erase was not effective. Many of the memories still exist in her consciously. This is evident from just your description.
Is she strong enough to permit a regression?
Yes. Many times the experience in human minds will loom larger in their imagination over time, though the event itself is not to be diminished. It is often embellished over time due to the nature of human memory. Your regression will help refocus clarity on what happened and what did not happen. It will be one that will be successful and will help her in coping with those memories. In the time since the event she has been clouded with many other facts and circumstances surrounding it which will often magnify the context of the event itself. The event has caused some stress for her. Her other stresses have been from human interaction, disappointment in failing to find the answers that she seeks.
Was her son also taken?
Yes. This was also done in a comprehensive fashion. This is not unusual. I hope this knowledge will help you. Your contribution is part of the process. We have talked about this earlier about ‘contact’. You are an ally in this entire process. Your part is often collecting the emotional pieces of where contact between species has not been fully successful. You are involved directly in the healing process of that encounter. We apologize, much of the damage comes from human misunderstanding. The regression will put everything in its proper context. It will reduce greatly the anxiety this person may feel and for those who are concerned for her.
As you have learned, the human mind greatly magnifies something that is different and the magnification is way beyond the importance of the event.
Human memory has that ability and we have noticed this. You have pinpointed exactly what I was ineffectively trying to convey. You have expressed my thought more efficiently. Thank you.
THE UNIVERSE
OTHER
As you are probably aware, I work a little bit with energy in pulling in energy and sending it out for the purpose of healing. Would there be any opportunity for me to learn to do this a little bit more effectively and wisely?
Projecting healing energy?
Yes. Pulling it in and projecting it out. I know that “intention” is the major factor for us.
Part of this is to focus on what is to be healed. At the same time, it is to draw energy from around you so you do not drain yourself. This will supplement your good gifts so that you do not deprive yourself of the same positive energies. It is like a funnel to draw in from surrounding and to adapt and focus these energies directed at a particular subject to be healed.
That is where the question lies because I will often pull energy and create an energy ball but I do not direct it at a specific person or condition all the time, but rather, I ask that it be taken to where it is needed. Is this effective or am I diluting the process?
Part of it is your human nature in fully not understanding the ailment to be healed. You understand it intellectually. This is not your fault. This is due to the typical patient being able to express to the healer the full extent to provide a proper diagnosis and treatment. This, in a physical and spiritual way, despite this, enough energy can be focused to remedy the ailment. I can sense in Steve, for example, where energy has been focused upon him and he has consciously noticed the many positive thoughts and energies that have made him buoyant and allowed him to be useful and enjoy life. He is not unaware of these focuses. I am sure others, too, would feel this from you. Your abilities are good. You will improve as you grow. The energies that you gather, first you are well aware of them and that is the major important step. In focusing, do not doubt your abilities. Sometimes patients take time to heal. Be gratified in knowing that you are focusing the energies and this is effective. Sometimes repeated treatments just take time to affect the change that is being sought. You are effective. Sometimes healing does not occur immediately.
OPEN SESSION FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS
Is there anything that you would like to say in closing?
No. Not at this time. I am sorry for Steve’s long induction and his difficulty in stepping back. He wishes me to say this. He appreciates and marvels at this (process).
This is so good for him.
Yes. He feels so too. I also feel this. It is good for all of us. There is an intimacy. It is one that, intellectually, is both stimulating and soothing at the same time. There is a resonance between us that might surprise some of my species which you are in touch with. It gives me pleasure, if that is the correct emotion - in enjoying the contact. It has been my main purpose for existence to create understanding between species. That is why I was selected to be a servant for you today and for my own species.
Then, for all of us who serve, I do thank you, until we meet again.
Until we meet again, thank you.
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Post by auntym on Nov 3, 2011 16:51:51 GMT -6
steve... han's description of the college-age hybrids of today, reminded me of the description of the young college age hybrid RAECHEL in the book RAECHEL'S EYES....
i'm now leaning towards believing maybe that book was true....
if anyone is interested: it is the story of a young zeti-human hybrid who went to college here and roomed with a young blind girl.... based on a true story...
RAECHEL'S EYES by Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux
somewhere... either on this forum or ufomania i have a thread on this book.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2011 18:16:11 GMT -6
"Yet, they are aware of our conversation"...
without saying that any of us on the edge of reality forum are hybrids, I have come to wonder if the "ringing in the ears" that quite a few of us have is actually the first part of an "awareness" that communication with an intity is about to happen.
Akin to the ole phrase "my ears and/or nose itch. Is someone talking about me?" .............
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Post by Steve on Nov 4, 2011 9:08:25 GMT -6
Muffin Journal October 2011 Page 3 -5 Remote Viewing By Janice Currie
Thinking our the possibility of aliens among us—and many of us do—questions arise. Who are they? How do they get here? Do they have an agenda? Are they influencing us in ways we may not realize? Some believe that one of the best sources of information available about extraterrestrial contact is remote viewing, so who better to ask than Joe McMoneagle, remote viewer 001 for the U.S. Army Star Gate program.
Star Gate started as a three-year study involving three psychics from Army intelligence. During the Iran hostage crisis in 1979, the team was handed 500 photos and tasked with choosing which photos represented hostages. They chose 60 photos and three sketches. Their accuracy was 100 percent. That day the Grill Flame program began, later evolving into Center Lane, then when the project was moved to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) it became Sun Streak, and finally, Star Gate. The program ran from 1978 to 1995.
McMoneagle has worked a lot of possible alien targets over 31 years. He recalled one where the target submitted by an agency appeared to be an air force base. Suddenly as he was remote viewing the location, an object whizzed across his field of view. Focusing on the object, he said it was 300 feet in diameter, oblique with a dome, was traveling at 3,800 mph at 8,000 feet and did a perfect 90-degree right turn. The information turned out to be totally accurate. He was also able to describe the power system on the craft.
How Do They Get Here?
Judging from the maneuvers these unidentified craft can execute in our atmosphere, it’s obvious they are not using the “fire wagons” we used to get to the moon, and are planning to use to get to Mars. The ETs have alternate means of travel which involves moving faster than the speed of light, McMoneagle said. If not, a trek between the Pleiades and Earth would involve a trip of over a thousand years. They probably travel by time machine, he said, possibly instantaneous travel through a wormhole. They can pop in and out of time and space, and in our time/space they move in ways we don’t understand. Speed and trajectory have a different meaning to them.
Who Are They?
From his remote viewing sessions, he has determined there are three different species on the planet currently, and groups within the species. They are aware of each other, they are carbon-based, and they operate within our atmosphere. However, we have never encountered an actual alien, he said, only genetically developed beings engineered to go forth and explore, and we are also unaware of what those drones look like. Because they are vulnerable to our atmosphere and biosphere, they wear environmental skin suits and protective lenses on the eyes. He described them as having three fingers with opposing thumbs, and sometimes claws.
Although we may not have met our neighbors, McMoneagle feels we maybe part of a crowded neighborhood. He speculated that after the Big Bang, when everything expanded outward, it took 5.5 billion years for intelligence to develop in what he calls the “Sweet Zone,” an area perfect for life, with a duration of about half a million years. A multitude of stars exists in that circle and he feels we share certain characteristics with all alien life in the zone: We are carbon-based, bipedal, with upper arms and finger- like appendages. Brains are similar, only some are more developed. We think, speak and communicate in a similar fashion, have humor, passions, wants, and desires, and a similar interest in spirituality.
Our Evolving DNA
DNA research, as explained in a study by Grayna Fosar and Franz Bludorf, shows that DNA is influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies. Only 10 percent of our DNA is being used for building proteins, and it is this 10 percent that has been studied and categorized. The remaining 90 percent is considered junk DNA. When Russian researchers studied this junk DNA they found that the genetic code, especially the useless 90 percent, follows the same rules as human language. So human languages are a reflection of our inherent DNA.
Researchers found that living DNA substance reacts to a language-modulated laser ray and even to radio waves, if proper frequencies are used, thus explaining the effectiveness of affirmations, autogenic training, and hypnosis. During their research the Russian scientists also found that our DNA can produce magnetized wormholes, “the microscopic equivalents of the so-called Einstein-Rosen bridges in the vicinity of black holes. These are tunnel connections between entirely different areas in the universe through which information can be transmitted outside of space and time. Our DNA attracts these bits of information and passes them to our consciousness.” Some call this remote viewing or psychic functioning. Others call it intuition.
Are We Being Influenced?
Since all carbon-based life forms have a similar DNA, McMoneagle says there is a psychic connection between us and all life in the sweet zone. Aliens communicate in a frequency compatible with psychic functioning, a communication that operates outside of space and time. With psychic functioning, distance is not a factor, he said. As an example, he said, when remote viewers were charged with acquiring information about the outer rim planets before they were reached by the Explorer spacecraft, they discovered they were able to get information regardless of distance. The information, when verified by information later gathered by the spacecraft, was 80 to 84 percent accurate.
We are learning from our alien neighbors in an unconscious way, he said, with ideas, from some form of sub-quantum emissions. Since humans are naturally psychic, we are being manipulated when we receive bursts of information, ideas etc. New ideas do not come by accident, there is a sharing of intelligence between us and them. Intuitive creativity is passed to us as we can use it. As we grow we become infested with more ideas. Similarly, what we know could be shared with species not as developed as we are. We are automatically altered at the DNA level and we can’t stop it.
What About Contact? McMoneagle thinks physical contact won’t occur anytime soon. Aliens have demonstrated an active interest in our nuclear weapons and our water systems (destructiveness and ecology). To them we are still a primitive, tribal society. They are waiting for us to end tribalism, for the population to peak, for us to mature, for us to desire peaceful contact, for us to understand more.
Contact, when it comes, will be both pleasant and unpleasant, he said. It will be on their terms, with specific rules. We haven’t demonstrated the ability to follow rules yet. There are laws regarding interstellar entities and how to act there, and we need to meet those requirements to establish comunication.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 9:47:05 GMT -6
McMoneagle is interesting to read, naturally since he falls in with one of my pet beliefs, that we can and do create our futures with our own thoughts. McMoneagle thus appears to be unabashedly in the camp of the emergent "New Age" cosmologists who postulate, among other things, that our thoughts create our reality, whether by default (unconsciously) or by design (consciously). In a recent interview with AR, he disclosed that, "I feel strongly that we're directly responsible for what happens in our future via our thoughts. |
But like any psychic science...it's often a matter of perspective. To be honest, many of his 'future' predictions haven't panned out and to me that only means that in some way we are only given to 'see' what we are meant to. I think that (in regard to the future) there are 'time locks' to keep us from changing what we shouldn't try to change (our greed could be our undoing) and it's sure no far stretch that once something in the future is 'viewed' the military government would try to seize some advantage. McMoneagle's future predictions include the passing of a teenager's "Right to Work" Bill,[16] a new religion without the emphasis of Christianity, a science of the soul,[17] a vaccine for AIDS,[18] a movement to eliminate television,[17] and a 'temporary tattoo' craze that would replace the wearing of clothing.[19], all of which were supposedly to take place between 2002 and 2006. |
I do agree with the article in that the creatures we see are 'created' ..the workhorse of others. I picture a grey and I hear the song 'send in the clowns'...although I don't find them the least bit funny. I think remote viewing often works and it's proven itself valuable to the military but in the present or perhaps the past. The future needs to be left alone because we're just not advanced enough to be messing with it. IMO
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 17:04:58 GMT -6
"who postulate, among other things, that our thoughts create our reality, whether by default (unconsciously) or by design (consciously). In a recent interview with AR, he disclosed that, "I feel strongly that we're directly responsible for what happens in our future via our thoughts. " (quote from Mr. McMoneagle) This is no new theory. It has been called "magical thinking" and has been added for study in quantum physics. "We are learning from our alien neighbors in an unconscious way, he said, with ideas, from some form of sub-quantum emissions. Since humans are naturally psychic, we are being manipulated when we receive bursts of information, ideas etc. New ideas do not come by accident, there is a sharing of intelligence between us and them. Intuitive creativity is passed to us as we can use it. As we grow we become infested with more ideas. Similarly, what we know could be shared with species not as developed as we are. " (from McMoneagle, above) IMO, this is reasonable. However, the proof is "what percent of the population ACT on these ideas??" Some people do seem to be 'puppets'. Some people verbalize internal ideas (or intuition) with others. Some people only contemplate. A "human hive mentality" would greatly help an alien agenda, whether it is for the best, or not. For now, I believe that all "they" can do is give us constant information and watch to see what happens next. But IF they have found a way to alter DNA so it responds to certain alien species.....there might be something more to abductees than an implant. "They" are having trouble altering the "junk part of DNA" that asserts personality and its perception of free will.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 17:11:12 GMT -6
P.S. Anyone else notice how the two comments I posted "dovetail perfectly" ? First, we create reality with our thoughts. Second, our thoughts are really not our thoughts. I need to go throw up now
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Post by Steve on Nov 4, 2011 17:55:45 GMT -6
P.S. Anyone else notice how the two comments I posted "dovetail perfectly" ? First, we create reality with our thoughts. Second, our thoughts are really not our thoughts. I need to go throw up now JCurio, JoKelly, you raise some wonderful thoughts and some very ominous ones. Many people, but not everyone - have scoffed about the concept of alien abductions for a long time. I use 'concept' because that is how a debunker or malicious skeptic might view it. I know for the both of you emphatically, and many others here and other places - it is not a concept at all. For you it happened. I raise this because many of the debunker's ask actually a good question. Why so many abductions? Maybe it is not to take something alone, but to plant something too beyond just an implant. A new something that is amiable to them? If our DNA can be programed actively as I begin to understand it, our thoughts could become 'their' thoughts as JCurio worries. That is disturbing. I have never been a big fan of the New Age movement as a religion. I very much respect others who might. Often Mufon meetings I once attended were always held in New Age church settings. I wonder if the New Age movement, like some other concepts could have been planted covertly by aliens as their own form of belief structure? Somewhat like the conquistadors dumping the Catholic religion on Aztec, Maya, and Inca beliefs. Now in those cultures you see a sometimes strange homogenization of the Native and the European. Or is this a crazy comparison, like the humorous Dr. Strangelove connecting commie conspiracies with water fluoridation? ;D I don't understand how in a New Age context how our thoughts can become reality. Isn't that how it has always worked regardless? The New Age people don't have a corner on this. Everything we use had to be invented. But maybe I am looking at this only in a technological way, not a philosophical one? I was struck by many of the same similarity's coming from McMoneagle's 'my favorite Martian' vs. my 'my favorite Martian'. Does it confirm something, or that we both sharing some logical fantasy each from our own subconscious? Too new. Very good, but disturbing thoughts presented by you. I now wonder if we are all through our DNA programed down to even our day to day activities? Are we just a bunch of empty walking CD-R computer disks with 90% blank DNA waiting to be programed by aliens? Or are we just rebellious to change? Now aliens, before I always thought Madison Avenue and Corporations controlled our thoughts. Thanks. Steve Allow me to make fun of myself. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 18:23:57 GMT -6
Interesting and ominous..that's pretty much it. When I am asked and do a reading for someone..I'll be talking to them and what they ask for is just 'there'. They call it clairaudiant but what it's called isn't the issue. Information just pops into my head and when it does..I am spot on accurate..always...but where is it coming from? I am an abductee..and I had a visitation as a child and something was stuffed in my ear. I suspect it's how I was tracked the second time. Are they creating some 'bond' with the ones they abduct? My question has always been why would they need so many if they are merely curious about our species? And I suspect that quite possibly many thousands have been abducted and just have not remembered or won't accept it. I KNOW they have an agenda..a reason and it's not random...and I think that is what frightens me the most. To some extent I think we may be puppets and they don't let go of their projects. Was I a normal child before they intervened? I am unlike my parents and siblings in coloring and in blood type and I was a lonely kid preferring my own company. After they visited..many things changed. I just don't know why
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 19:01:56 GMT -6
"Contact, when it comes, will be both pleasant and unpleasant, he said." Duh. Did you know that some people, after being released from prison, soon commit a crime and go back there? or, go back to a cheating spouse? or....... there is a theory out there that "we are being conditioned". Dr. Strangelove, hmmmmmm? It will still be "unpleasant", eh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2011 19:08:02 GMT -6
" It will be on their terms, with specific rules. ........................................................There are laws regarding interstellar entities and how to act there, and ......."
BBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssss
What rules? What laws?
Control Freaks!!!!
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Post by Steve on Nov 4, 2011 19:28:27 GMT -6
Hey, it's Friday.....
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