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Post by swamprat on Nov 11, 2011 8:20:06 GMT -6
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Post by skywalker on Nov 11, 2011 9:04:26 GMT -6
Hope all of our veterans have a wonderful day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 10:49:01 GMT -6
To all the veterans who put their lives on the line for the future of our country/world, we thank you from the bottom of our hearts!! ~hugz and smoochiez to all the veterans~
And... today I get paid holiday pay. ;D
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2011 11:36:44 GMT -6
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Post by swamprat on Nov 11, 2011 12:36:28 GMT -6
Day is done, gone the sun From the lakes, from the hills, from the sky All is well, safely rest God is nigh. Fading light dims the sight And a star gems the sky, gleaming bright From afar, drawing near Falls the night. Thanks and praise for our days Neath the sun, neath the stars, neath the sky As we go, this we know God is nigh.
Fading light dims the sight And a star gems the sky, gleaming bright From afar drawing nigh, Falls the night.
Day is done, gone the sun From the lakes, from the hills, from the skies All is well, safely rest; God is nigh.
Then goodnight, peaceful night; Till the light of the dawn shineth bright. God is near, do not fear, Friend, goodnight.Captain John C. Tidball, West Point, Class of 1848, started the custom of playing taps at a military funeral. It was in early July, 1862 at Harrison’s Landing, that a corporal of Tidball’s Battery A, 2nd Artillery, died. He was, Tidball recalled later, “a most excellent man.” Tidball desired to bury him with full military honors, but was refused, for military reasons, permission to fire three guns over his grave. Tidball later wrote, “The thought suggested itself to me to sound taps instead, which I did. The idea was taken up by others, until in a short time it was adopted by the entire army and is now looked upon as the most appropriate and touching part of a military funeral.” Il Silenzio (Silence in English) is an Italian instrumental piece, notable for its trumpet theme. It was written in 1965 by trumpet player Nini Rosso and Guglielmo Brezza; its thematic melody being an extension of the bugle military call for taps. It has become a worldwide instrumental standard, which has sold around 10 million copies.
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2011 15:30:42 GMT -6
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Post by Steve on Nov 11, 2011 18:23:30 GMT -6
Julia Child served in Ceylon working as part of the American OSS, HRH Queen Elizabeth II served in the British Army working in the motor pool as a truck mechanic. Mahatma Gandhi served in the Boar and Zulu Wars in South Africa as a stretcher barer (even though he was the first non-white lawyer to be admitted to the bar in South Africa), and was decorated for courage. I did not know Socrates was a 'veteran' of any wars then.
There is a lot of curious connections between these individuals. Elisabeth the future sovereign of a shrinking British Empire, her paternal granduncle was Vice Admiral Louis Mountbatten, who administered the British transition to Indian Independence. Gandhi and Child in India and Ceylon. Socratic principles are used in law school - Gandhi was a lawyer. I guess they would all make a great and interesting dinner guest list - with Julia enjoying the cooking - (French of course). ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 19:11:17 GMT -6
Thank you very much to all the veterans for your service ! Happy veterans day !
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Post by lois on Nov 11, 2011 20:06:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 20:14:58 GMT -6
Auntym: How did Harriet Tubman get to be known as a veteran? They didn't let women in the army back in those days...
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2011 20:28:41 GMT -6
Auntym: How did Harriet Tubman get to be known as a veteran? They didn't let women in the army back in those days... A GREAT LADY3. Harriet Tubman Harriet Tubman One of the most celebrated heroines in American history, Harriet Tubman is best known for ushering slaves to freedom through the Underground Railroad in the 1850s. But not everyone knows that Tubman, who escaped slavery in 1849, set up a vast espionage ring for the Union during the Civil War. In early 1862 Tubman traveled to South Carolina, where she served as a nurse and teacher for newly liberated slaves in Union camps. She also organized dangerous missions in which Union troops destroyed plantations and spirited former slaves away on warships. In June 1863 Tubman led an armed expedition along the Combahee River that liberated more than 700 slaves. Shamefully, she was paid only $200 during her three years of service and was denied a pension for her spy work. www.history.com/news/2011/11/11/8-famous-folks-you-might-not-know-were-veterans/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 21:43:18 GMT -6
Ohhhh she was a spy. Cool.
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Post by bewildered on Nov 11, 2011 23:34:27 GMT -6
I think about the people I knew that I lost touch with, and wonder if they stayed in after I processed out of the Army after my 4 year hitch. Where are they now? If I had stayed in, I would have retired two years ago. I have mixed feelings about it to this day.
I must admit, I was hit pretty hard several years ago. Hearing of those young guys dying reminded me of that decision I made in 1993. Either stay in and enlist for Airborne, Air Assault, and ultimately Ranger school, or get out with my college money. I chose the latter. There are days that I regret my decision.
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Post by auntym on Nov 12, 2011 12:18:37 GMT -6
www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/dogs-of-war-book_n_1079604.html?ref=green&icid=maing-grid7'Dogs Of War' Book Offers Glimpse Of Canine Soldiers (PHOTOS) From Lisa Rogak: Military working dogs first gained widespread attention after people learned that a dog named Cairo participated in the SEAL Team 6 mission that led to Osama bin Laden's death. Before that, few civilians realized that dogs served in combat, let alone that they could parachute out of helicopters and sniff out everything from bombs to bad guys. Like millions of other Americans, New York Times bestselling author Lisa Rogak was fascinated by the photos of dogs leaping out of planes that surfaced days after the raid. She was compelled to dig deeper to find out more about these brave canine members of the military, especially since her son serves in the United States Army, Delta Company of the 489th Civil Affairs Battalion, and is currently stationed in Afghanistan. Her research resulted in her latest book, The Dogs of War: the Courage, Love, and Loyalty of Military Working Dogs. Here are some photos from the book that show the wide range of talents these dogs possess, as well as the unbreakable bonds they form with the soldiers who work with them. CLICK TO SEE SLIDE SHOW: www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/11/dogs-of-war-book_n_1079604.html?ref=green&icid=maing-grid7
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 13:35:55 GMT -6
I think about the people I knew that I lost touch with, and wonder if they stayed in after I processed out of the Army after my 4 year hitch. Where are they now? If I had stayed in, I would have retired two years ago. I have mixed feelings about it to this day. I must admit, I was hit pretty hard several years ago. Hearing of those young guys dying reminded me of that decision I made in 1993. Either stay in and enlist for Airborne, Air Assault, and ultimately Ranger school, or get out with my college money. I chose the latter. There are days that I regret my decision. I saw a soldier at work last week Bewildered. He was about my age, mid twenties and was wearing desert fatigues (sp?). He was also wearing a neck brace. I asked him what happened. "I got blowed up," was his flat response. "Ohhh... I'm sorry hun!" I said, feeling awful. "In Afghanistan?" "Yea," he said. "I hope you get better soon..." I said. "I hope I don't!" he exclaimed, "I'm sick of this!" "I can understand that..." I replied. Poor guy.
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Post by skywalker on Nov 12, 2011 18:38:24 GMT -6
It's hard to fight when you don't know what you are fighting for. The politicians who are running our government are clueless. They send soldiers off to war then bring them back, send them over, bring them back...all without having any clear objective of what they want to accomplish. It's like it's just a political chess game now and the soldiers are the pawns. I'm very proud and supportive of our soldiers and I love every one of them...but I absolutely, positively HATE the politicians.
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Post by ufo4peace on Nov 27, 2011 5:51:01 GMT -6
Another simple fact: The arms trade is a huge transnational industry. It employs hundreds of thousands of men and women who make a living and bring up their children on the proceeds of arms sales. This means that they depend on the misery, and the deaths, of people they do not know, people in unfamiliar countries who are also trying to earn wages and rear their children.I remember when I was a kid my eccentric dad was driving by a missile plant and I looked out the window and said cool! missiles and the he frowned and said those missiles are used to kill people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 10:08:12 GMT -6
"I remember when I was a kid my eccentric dad was driving by a missile plant and I looked out the window and said cool! missiles and the he frowned and said those missiles are used to kill people." Most likely you were just thinking about ideas like fireworks. A rocket shooting miles and miles and then being just loud and pretty . I can remember having those little plastic army men in battles with my brother on the side of the house in the dirt. Did I "register" death? I don't think so. whether eccentric or not, your dad properly "seized the moment". That, IMO, is cool. Kids still play "guns". I believe "cops and robbers/criminals" is still the norm. Don't think they do "cowboys and indians". My two-cents. Sigh. Prevention is the KEY element on this Earth. People try to say "don't live by the what if's", but where did they hear this cra_ ? How many of you heard "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never harm me" ? Another load of cr_p. They've now proved that a broken bone heals stronger than before. It heals. You get my point.
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Post by ufo4peace on Dec 1, 2011 15:02:25 GMT -6
whether eccentric or not, your dad properly "seized the moment". That, IMO, is cool. He got into graphic detail how such weapons blow up people's body parts, limbs, pieces of skin flying all over the place. It really is an industry of death and destruction. I noticed on the news that there are protest today for this conference: Aaviation Week and Credit Suisse hold their 17th annual Aerospace & Defense Finance Conference.“This conference comes in a critical year for the defense and weapons industry since most government programs face massive budget cuts; however, U.S. involvement in war and military operations is growing,” says Jerry Goralnick, an organizer of the Nov 30th protests. “Even though the arms industry is one of the few bases for manufacturing left in the US we have to begin a discussion in this country about whether we want our greatest export, to be a product whose ultimate objective is to kill people.”Well stated. These young punks need to keep it up.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 1, 2011 21:07:23 GMT -6
Perhaps we should start manufacturing other things instead of buying everything from China. I realize they can produce it cheaper but cheaper doesn't always mean better. Personally, I'm tired of buying worthless junk that breaks as soon as I touch it. If we ever did go to war with China we wouldn't need weapons to defeat them. Their crappy missiles would never make it over here.
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Post by ufo4peace on Dec 4, 2011 18:50:58 GMT -6
Leave it to a vet to be paranoid of the Chinese.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2011 20:05:18 GMT -6
My husband is a Viet Nam Veteran..I imagine a tiny drop of paranoia helped to keep him alive and ducking... ;D Somedays..you're the windshield...somedays you're the bug... But on another note: Six Chinese fishermen have been arrested in western Philippine waters for catching endangered sea turtles, officials said Sunday. news.yahoo.com/6-chinese-arrested-turtle-catch-philippines-102654657.htmlIt's the great turtle caper...
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Post by skywalker on Dec 4, 2011 22:54:49 GMT -6
I'm more paranoid about our own government than China. The Chinese are communists and communists are easy to understand. The thing they want more than anything is power and control. They are not going to have that if they start a nuclear war and blow everything up. That would lead to a loss of power and control. I think China is like the old Soviet Union...they huff and puff and make a lot of noise but in the end it is mainly just hot air. That sounds kind of like our own politicians.
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Post by bewildered on Dec 5, 2011 2:25:27 GMT -6
I'm more paranoid about our own government than China. The Chinese are communists and communists are easy to understand. The thing they want more than anything is power and control. They are not going to have that if they start a nuclear war and blow everything up. That would lead to a loss of power and control. I think China is like the old Soviet Union...they huff and puff and make a lot of noise but in the end it is mainly just hot air. That sounds kind of like our own politicians. I was going to say, Sky...you've summed up the pathological heart of those who desire power, seize power, and seek to retain that power. Communists, fascists, socialists...do labels really matter? Whether it's the "democratically elected" Senator or the appointed Premier, the end result is the same. I think people become bedazzled by the dog and pony show, much like a deer frozen in the headlights. The car is coming, but they'll never know that until it's too late.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2011 10:35:17 GMT -6
I'm not paranoid concerning China either but the other day when my daughters friend came up with her new baby..I expected to see 'made in china' stamped on it's bottom It bothers me..how much we outsource because aside from billions of dollars in foreign aid..we support their job market too..not just China's. If foreign aid stayed home..the US might not be on the brink of financial catastrophe. Ahh...in my most humble opinion..
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Post by ufo4peace on Dec 6, 2011 3:24:26 GMT -6
Brazil might become the next big power if there was disclosure. A lot of UFO sightings in that area.
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Post by skywalker on Dec 6, 2011 10:24:41 GMT -6
I was going to say, Sky...you've summed up the pathological heart of those who desire power, seize power, and seek to retain that power. Communists, fascists, socialists...do labels really matter? Whether it's the "democratically elected" Senator or the appointed Premier, the end result is the same. I think people become bedazzled by the dog and pony show, much like a deer frozen in the headlights. The car is coming, but they'll never know that until it's too late. You are right, Bw. Labels don't matter. One greedy corrupt power-hungry politician is the same as any other. They all want the same thing...big, powerful government that controls everything...with them in control of it of course. Power hungry people are easy to understand. They all have the same ideas, the same beliefs, the same goals, and they have the same plans for how to achieve them. The really frustrating thing is that they keep succeeding. The reason they succeed is because they are constantly working towards gaining power while the rest of the people in the country are just going about their daily lives...working, raising their families, doing things that they enjoy doing... They don't notice what is going on until after their freedom has been taken away and by then it is too late to do anything about it.
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2017 13:50:24 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2017 14:11:18 GMT -6
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Post by auntym on Nov 11, 2017 14:14:18 GMT -6
www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/us/veterans-day-memorial-day-different-new/index.html?sr=twCNN111017veterans-day-memorial-day-different-new0521PMVODtop Get it straight: The difference between Veterans Day and Memorial DayBy Lisa Respers France, CNN / www.cnn.com/profiles/lisa-france11-11-2017 "This story was first published in 2014. "
(CNN)We are here to make sure you don't embarrass yourself.Inevitably, someone says something demonstrating confusion over the difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Allow us to explain it to you. Related: Veterans reveal personal stories about why they serve Memorial Day: Celebrated the last Monday in May, Memorial Day is the holiday set aside to pay tribute to those who died serving in the military. The website for the United States Department of Veterans Affairs recounts the start of Memorial Day this way: Memorial Day: Celebrated the last Monday in May, Memorial Day is the holiday set aside to pay tribute to those who died serving in the military. The website for the United States Department of Veterans Affairs recounts the start of Memorial Day this way: "Three years after the Civil War ended, on May 5, 1868, the head of an organization of Union veterans -- the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR) -- established Decoration Day as a time for the nation to decorate the graves of the war dead with flowers. Maj. Gen. John A. Logan declared that Decoration Day should be observed on May 30. It is believed that date was chosen because flowers would be in bloom all over the country." The passage of the National Holiday Act of 1971 by Congress made it an official holiday. Veterans Day: This federal holiday falls on November 11 and is designated as a day to honor all who have served in the military. According to Military.com, Veterans Day began as Armistice Day to honor the end of World War I, which officially took place on November 11, 1918. "In 1954, after having been through both World War II and the Korean War, the 83rd U.S. Congress -- at the urging of the veterans service organizations -- amended the Act of 1938 by striking out the word "Armistice" and inserting the word "Veterans," the site says. "With the approval of this legislation on June 1, 1954, November 11 became a day to honor American veterans of all wars." Just for good measure, we will also throw in some information about Labor Day because, believe it or not, we've seen folks thanking troops on that holiday. Labor Day, the first Monday in September, honors the contributions of American workers, not the military. www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/us/veterans-day-memorial-day-different-new/index.html?sr=twCNN111017veterans-day-memorial-day-different-new0521PMVODtop5 ways to honor veterans beyond Veterans Day: www.cnn.com/2014/11/10/living/veterans-day-five-ways-to-help/index.html Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs www.va.gov/opa/speceven/memday/history.asp
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