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Post by auntym on Oct 9, 2011 13:48:39 GMT -6
io9.com/5847493/the-strange-glowing-object-that-put-missouri-on-ufo-alert-this-weekThe strange, glowing object that put Missouri on "UFO alert" this week
The strange, glowing object that put Missouri on "UFO alert" this week This is the only picture available of a UFO that has been terrorizing residents in the state of Missouri for the past few days. Apparently the brightly-lit vehicle has been flying low over cars on the highway, and appears to break up into smaller craft. Dozens of witnesses have reported seeing it, boosting Missouri to a "UFO Alert" level 3. The state had the 8th highest number of UFO reports in the U.S. last month. What's going on? A woman who saw the UFO earlier this week in a car with her family near Kansas City reported to MUFON: We saw this object that had shape of stealth bomber that had green and white lights hovering over the highway. At first I told my husband and children that I thought it was a blimp, but as we got closer it was doing weird maneuvers." We turned around to get closer, and by the time we got close enough it shot if like a rocket. There was another object in sky that it flew over and the light on it was a white, very bright light. I then called my father - retired navy - to ask him if stealth bombers hover and have green and white lights - and he said 'no.' He said that it might be a Harrin. So I looked it up and it didn't look like it either. So what was it that I saw? Apparently there have been so many reports of this "triangle" or "boomerang" UFO because it flew right over a traffic jam on the highway. Another family who saw the UFO reported: CONTINUE READING: io9.com/5847493/the-strange-glowing-object-that-put-missouri-on-ufo-alert-this-week
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 14:33:58 GMT -6
EEK! It looks like a giant glowing spider!!
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Post by Steve on Oct 9, 2011 15:27:30 GMT -6
It looks like a common UFO photo we often see now. Based on many past photos like this from Stephenville and other places that we have found later what they really were, this appears like a row of horizontal banking lights, and a unsteady camera with a longer exposure. The long exposure is due to being obviously photographed at night. The camera needs time to gather more light. The spider effect is the unsteady camera during the exposure.
What I am trying to say is what the camera records and what is being seen by the witness are almost always two completely different things. If the witness is available, one question I always ask them is does the image really represent what they were seeing. Almost always it is not. That is part of the craziness about UFO photos in this field, and the over inflated expectations we have about them. Particularly digital ones. One must lower their expectations about photos.
In cases I would rather get a clear detail description than a photo. Preferably both. But if I have to choose one or the other, I will take a detailed description not distracted in full attention by the need to take a photo. I'll take a full attention description in detail over a photo any day or night. Photos only validates additional observations, it is never proof anymore in this digital age. A picture maybe worth a thousand words under good lighting conditions. In the case of digital cameras, a picture is now usually only worth 5 cuss words...and a thousand frustrated questions.
Digital cameras need to be redesigned conceptually from the beginning in some new fundamental way to capture in 'UFO' photos what the witness is really seeing. Otherwise, they often just make 'blurries' that get in the way of any investigation. It isn't due to the phenomenon being recorded, it is the poor technology of the camera for this specific photographic situation. Digital cameras are for birthday parties, and crude cell phones with too many accessories beyond their basic function. Not shooting something unexpected in bad photo conditions shot by a startled witness on the fly.
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Post by lois on Oct 9, 2011 21:03:44 GMT -6
EEK! It looks like a giant glowing spider!! ;D ;D You are right Lorelei. but is the photo alien or a ship?
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Post by lois on Oct 9, 2011 21:26:31 GMT -6
Steve... thank you for posting the map.. those are a lot of sightings for sure and in many different areas. More distance between them than I realized.
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Post by lois on Oct 9, 2011 21:31:23 GMT -6
I see the stadium but where is the location these planes take off from?
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Post by skywalker on Oct 10, 2011 21:19:25 GMT -6
If it actually was a delta formation of planes that I saw, it didn't break up to land at the airport. Why did the crop duster story and pictures get deleted? That was a great example of IFO and how other reports can happen! The general comments like "showing off" being a clue, are very helpful! I'll walk off from anyone who uses a bad example to go on to tell me about something they did. I can't afford to compare myself to others, including appearances. All I can do is be myself; shortcomings and all. That is my "soapbox" . But now, a guest looking at this thread at pages 7-8 may be confused due to complete deletion of postings. Couldn't the negative comments about other people have been deleted (or edited) only? Steve reposted the crop duster post in his IFO section. I'm glad he did.
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Post by swamprat on Oct 11, 2011 16:49:25 GMT -6
Lee’s Summit JournalTuesday, Oct. 11 2011 2:25PM Rash of UFOs over Lee’s Summit being probedBy Rob Roberts, rroberts@lsjournal.com Reports of unidentified flying objects over Lee’s Summit have been flooding into an area office of the Mutual UFO Network, a nonprofit organization that investigates sightings. And several of them can’t be explained, said Margie Kay, assistant state director for Missouri MUFON. “Right now, we have over 60 sightings in the Lee’s Summit area from last week alone,” Kay, an Independence resident who volunteers for the organization, said Oct. 11. “We have some reports that were due to a group of pilots flying in formation out of Lee’s Summit. And Whiteman Air Force Base said the B2s are on yellow alert right now and running training missions throughout Missouri this month. “But we have at least 40 sightings that cannot be explained, some with close encounters and large craft hovering.”Among the reported objects yet to be explained were “orange balls of fire” seen hovering over yards and intersections in Lee’s Summit, then leaving in an easterly direction, Kay said. The fiery orbs, which reportedly ranged from three to 50 feet in diameter, were seen on Oct. 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, she said. “Some people have speculated they’re probes from other ships,” she said. “Maybe they’re other life forms. Maybe they’re something natural we just don’t understand yet.” Kay acknowledged that many of the local sightings seem to have been explained late last week, when pilot Phillip Lamb of Blue Springs stepped forward. “We’re pretty much the aliens,” Lamb said, explaining that his team of eight pilots flew out of Lee’s Summit Municipal Airport and practiced over this area and Arrowhead Stadium on the evenings of Oct. 3 and 4. That’s when many of the local UFO reports came in, according to John Ohrazda, manager of the Lee’s Summit airport. “But when MUFON called me last Thursday, they said there had been a large number of reports spread over several days,” Ohrazda said. “And some of the people described aircraft coming to a complete hover. … Airplanes can’t hover. And they don’t have the lights being described. So I don’t know what these people were seeing.” According to one report filed with MUFON, a huge object with white and green lights was seen flying about 3,000 to 5,000 feet over Lee’s Summit at about 8:30 p.m., Oct. 3. The person said, “I noticed what I thought was a low-flying plane” while driving north on Pryor Road. But “as it got closer, I realized how low it was flying and became concerned. Once it was within maybe a half-mile of my location, I realized this was no plane – I had my windows down and (there was) absolutely no sound coming from it.” On the next evening, a local man told MUFON, he and his wife were driving home from the school they work at when “we saw a strange flashing object in the sky.” “At first, we thought it was an airplane landing at the Lee’s Summit airport,” the man reported. “Then it changed direction, completely turned sideways and showed a vast array of lights – white, green, blue, flashing in a pattern at first, and then quickly pulsating in a random pattern. It then hovered in place for a short time, then rotated back to horizontal. … It then very quickly flew southeast at approximately 300 to 400 mph, then stopped abruptly in the sky over what would be downtown Lee’s Summit.” Lamb said he figures those reports stemmed from his team, called KC Flight, which was practicing four-aircraft formations over Lee’s Summit on Oct. 3 and six-aircraft formations over Lee’s Summit and Arrowhead stadium on Oct. 4. The team’s Oct. 4 flight might also explain the “close encounters” that Kay said were reported by residents of Raytown . “One lady saw a very large craft hovering over the Apple Market on 63rd Street,” she said. “It hovered over the store for four minutes, then turned and took off at a high rate of speed. She saw lights in a circular pattern on the side of it. “Another person reported a craft hovering over the Raytown water tower. It had multiple lights on the bottom that shone down, and no wings, no tail or any of the blinking red or green lights required by (the Federal Aviation Administration).” After hovering over the water tower, Kay said, that craft reportedly “rose up, turned on its side and took off at light speed.” Lamb chuckled at the reports. “At night, you don’t have the depth perception you think you do,” he said. “And there’s no point of reference in the sky to tell you how fast something’s moving or whether it’s moving at all.” The all-aluminum single-engine planes his team uses for wedding, stadium and other types of flyovers are capable of quickly slowing and reaccelerating, Lamb said. And their strobing white, red and green lights can appear to be different colors in different types of weather, he added. Nevertheless, Lamb’s explanations in the media late last week were rebutted by many who claimed, “There’s no way that was an aircraft,” he said. “Some people are diehard UFO fans, I guess,” Lamb said. According to Kay, she has been fascinated by UFOs since sighting one herself in 1985. “It was so strange. I knew it wasn’t anything manmade,” she said. According to Kay, she’s currently putting together a timeline of all the recent reports in hopes of uncovering more patterns and explanations. The information will be posted on the organization’s website, www.missourimufon.org. Those with additional reports are asked to file them on another website, www.mufon.com/reportufo.htm. “Then I will be contacting them” to investigate the sighting, Kay said. www.lsjournal.com/2011/10/11/74406/rash-of-ufos-over-lees-summit.html
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Post by Steve on Oct 11, 2011 23:05:08 GMT -6
Here is a state wide map of all sightings in Missouri from September 1, 2011 to the present = October 11, 2011. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2011 23:38:44 GMT -6
Wow Steve... thanks for the map. Did you make this one yourself?
That's a lot of little red triangles near Kansas City...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 5:08:46 GMT -6
"Steve reposted the crop duster post in his IFO section. I'm glad he did."
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Post by Steve on Oct 12, 2011 9:47:06 GMT -6
The triangle symbol in the map represents all sightings, not triangles UFO shapes. I arbitrarily used that symbol to read the map better. It was easy and quick to make. Steve
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Post by paulette on Oct 12, 2011 9:55:46 GMT -6
This is an interesting evolving discussion. I just want to throw in that even though crop dusters were dusting and even though aircraft (ours) were flying as usual, that does not mean that there wasn't something else going on simultaneously. It does mean that each report has to be sifted for consistencies and inconsistencies. And as usual, some people will be convinced that they saw something unworldly and others are already convinced that they couldn't have because UFOs don't exist (except to be proven as weather balloons, geese, crop dusters, Stealth bombers, Venus and the rising moon.)
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Post by lois on Oct 12, 2011 10:32:58 GMT -6
Wonder if any have been spotted East of the Mississippi River.. These are sort of close to my area.. I have been going out at night and watching the skies. Too much moonlight at the front of my home.. this week.
Thanks for the second map..
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Post by skywalker on Oct 14, 2011 7:56:22 GMT -6
Here is another video that I found of the Kansas City lights. The video also shows an interesting comparison to the Phoenix Lights that occurred in 1997.
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Post by Steve on Oct 14, 2011 12:02:12 GMT -6
Here is another video that I found of the Kansas City lights. The video also shows an interesting comparison to the Phoenix Lights that occurred in 1997. The wishful young lady in the video says it must be a UFO (implying by her to mean 'ET') but by definition they are 'unidentified' when the video was taken. We have since learned the EAA pilots aerobatic pilots were practicing that night in the same area (night of Oct. 4, 2011). The lights, their number (5), and seem to be forming up to practice or changing formation (Very loose formation). At least in this one case, these are the EAA, not the 'ET'. The other many reports I can't comment. The lady is so eager to conclude without any investigation, no science, no anything. Like a popularity contest in high school. The video was taken at a bar (background sounds), so in any 'Ballester-Guasp' case rating, it would get lower marks in overall rating....a high for perhaps more witnesses present perhaps, but lower marks in 'recreation' during the sighting, and the lower age(assume over 21, since it is a bar), it would get another lower rating. The ideal witness rating if you use Ballester-Guasp is middle age, mature enough to have been around enough to have seen a few more things life, yet their physical abilities - sight, hearing, has not begun to diminish. There is usually so little to go on in lights in the sky reports, other than checking the air traffic which w later done. In many close encounter and abduction cases, craft hovering over, and stopping vehicles.... there is usually more going on and seen up close leaving less doubt. ET's cases involving abductions for instance, if a UFO is seen, is usually never illuminated to much, not announcing themselves...just a dark shape over a home for instance, for the same reason buglers don't throw parades. People thoughtfully will ask, why do ET UFO's seem to be so well illuminated? Their propulsion? Perhaps, but maybe it is just they are not ET's in those particular cases in the first place. Steve
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Post by lois on Oct 14, 2011 13:53:00 GMT -6
Here is another video that I found of the Kansas City lights. The video also shows an interesting comparison to the Phoenix Lights that occurred in 1997. These to me don't resemble what was seen in Phoenix at all. They came on one by one and never changed. This one changes three times and the one by itself moves around.. The one in phoenix never moved..The one in phoenix went out one by one.. The phoenix lights seem to cover more sky also.. It had more lights also.. Nothing is the same to me.. At least I don't see it.. sorry sky. .. They are very rare looking lights. We don't have any craft that can maneuver around like this one.. It must of been silent but who could tell with all the music? Hope more video comes from out of Kansas. What was the lights low to the ground in her video? I would like like to see them on a separate video.. they seem to be low on the horizon ..or very close to the ground..
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Post by skywalker on Oct 14, 2011 21:40:41 GMT -6
I think those were probably planes also. I'm tempted to say that about the Phoenix lights too. I'm still not convinced about that one. So if the lights in this video are planes what do the other UFOs that MUFON is supposedly investigating in Kansas City look like? Are they all going to turn out to be aircraft?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 2:17:24 GMT -6
I think those were probably planes also. I'm tempted to say that about the Phoenix lights too. I'm still not convinced about that one. So if the lights in this video are planes what do the other UFOs that MUFON is supposedly investigating in Kansas City look like? Are they all going to turn out to be aircraft? I honestly think there is something more to this than just airplanes flying overhead. I think most of what was witnessed were planes, but a few cases don't add up.Many reports by different witnesses describe orange glowing balls of light which hasnt been explained yet. There's a report which happened not too long ago in K.C. by a police detective who reported seeing a craft over his house and a being in his backyard. I for one believe him, and for a good reason !!
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Post by lois on Oct 15, 2011 8:54:08 GMT -6
bye every one .. will try and come on when I can..
Touched, I think you are right, Im bringing my camera to Cape.. hopefully I may see something.. we are leaving the cold up here..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 16:35:13 GMT -6
page 8 of this thread. steves 1st map he posted showing 'arrowhead stadium' and detail. I drove around the lees summit airport today and it measured 5.7 miles. This includes security fence boundries, and private land. The airport is directly west of where steves map is labled "new territory" (the other side of 470. The road that crosses fourseventy and has no name is brand new on the east side of fourseventy and has part of the security boundry west of same hiway. there is also a storage facility and land for sale (presumedly for business developement). The homes in area with no trespassing signs are older, large, and obviously private. there are at least 2 ponds on land area. There is a railroad track even farther west (running parallel to airport) that travels under colburn road. The only reason 'we' noticed it was the other night after we stopped and looked around, we drove down colburn. there was a light down on the tracks (very wooded area). believe it or not, as I drove down the 'unnamed road' just a few minutes ago, I saw a BUCK inside the security fence. someone's pet?? I see fawns and does all the time in this area, and really all over. This is the closest I've EVER been to a buck, alive. it is a one lane road so I didn't have time to count its antlers.... Last night we definitely saw (2) jet planes. I was surprised, because i've always just seen small planes..whitemanxxairforcebasee is not that far away. the other nite both my ____ and I had an anomaly with the binoculars while parked (thanks for you concern, cousin ; I am parking ). we spotted "something'" and when looking with the glasses it seemed to 'jump' . i thought i was just tired. until someone else had the same problem. We also tried to take pics last nite... Ok, heres where I need some input. how many of you having problems with this site just lately?? i had something spook me yesterday and it was witnessed. i will talk about it later when i get home. thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 16:53:28 GMT -6
WOW JC. I can't wait for you to post more about it...
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Post by skywalker on Oct 18, 2011 21:49:20 GMT -6
Problems with this site? You mean the forum? What kind of problems? If anybody has a problem with it let me know so I can try to fix it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 4:39:46 GMT -6
Hi skywalker. I got "kicked off" this site/forum a couple of times this weekend. I would be on the "home" page and click on a thread to read. My pc would not let me go to the thread and I got a message that "internet explorer cannot ...."but I still have internet connection and can go other places on the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 5:07:03 GMT -6
I put what "spooked" me on the personal experience page . Last night I parked my van at a secluded area near the airport. Before I even got the van shut off, 2 other vehicles came to this spot and turned around; I think I took someone else's spot :0. Kind of funny, but we didn't laugh. I'm sure both vehicles were able to find another place. We got there at dusk and stayed until 8:10 pm. Can see and hear the highway, the airport, and fields and fields in the "new territory" adjacent to lake jacomo/fleming park. These roads have "always" been here, but are now more than gravel, more than one lane, and more people are using them. A relative of mine had to give up some of his property when Woods Chapel Road was widened. It used to be the only paved/used road. The Jackson County sheriff's office is also nearby. As far as I know, this area is clear of "hauntings" or rumors thereof. Farther south we have Longview Lake and the old Longview Farm; it has old rumors, and a personal experience of mine ) Anyway, what we saw last nite sounds like a plane, never landed at the airport while we were there, and moved very slowly around the area. It wasn't the same thing I saw the week of Oct. 8 (smaller), but it turned sideways and seemed to hover in that position. We got one picture (moving, with digital camera) and I had both my dtrs. separately draw what we saw, and we didn't compare their drawings until we got home. We all heard it sound like a plane (not a helicopter, and not a jet). Sometimes we "lost sight of it". One of my dtrs. spent time looking on the internet later looking at "triangle shaped ufo" and had me look to compare what they saw and drew. I may post their drawings tonight.
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Post by skywalker on Oct 19, 2011 5:54:11 GMT -6
I would like to see the drawings and the picture too if you feel like posting them.
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Post by Steve on Oct 19, 2011 11:17:46 GMT -6
Hi skywalker. I got "kicked off" this site/forum a couple of times this weekend. I would be on the "home" page and click on a thread to read. My pc would not let me go to the thread and I got a message that "internet explorer cannot ...."but I still have internet connection and can go other places on the internet. Perhaps check your parential settings on your PC. Steve
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Post by skywalker on Oct 19, 2011 13:22:30 GMT -6
Hi skywalker. I got "kicked off" this site/forum a couple of times this weekend. I would be on the "home" page and click on a thread to read. My pc would not let me go to the thread and I got a message that "internet explorer cannot ...."but I still have internet connection and can go other places on the internet. That does happen sometimes when Proboards is doing maintainance or upgrades on their system. It makes the forums hard to get on to. Sometimes it only effects a few forums and sometimes it effects all of them. They usually do late at night when there is not as much activity. It's possible that could be the problem. I have experienced a few times also but it usually clears up pretty quick.
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Post by swamprat on Nov 4, 2011 15:22:27 GMT -6
Lee’s Summit JournalFriday, Nov. 04 2011 11:13AM Local UFO sightings continueBy Rob Roberts, rroberts@lsjournal.com A former Marine who lives in Lee’s Summit said he’d heard all the stories about a team of stunt planes flying out of the municipal airport here being mistaken for UFOs during the past month. But what John Goslin saw on Oct. 31 – a night when seven KC Flight team planes soared in formation over Arrowhead Stadium – was not a group of small planes, he said. Nor was it like anything else Goslin had ever seen in the skies during his military career. Margie Kay, assistant director for Missouri MUFON, a nonprofit organization that investigates UFO sightings, said the formation team that flew over Arrowhead Monday night indeed accounted for a few new reports that night. “But we still have seven area reports from the 31st that don’t fit the description of those planes,” said Kay, a resident of Independence. And of the 75 UFO sightings reported in Missouri during the month of October, Kay said, 37 remain unidentified and unexplained. “That’s a very high number,” Kay said, and so is the total number of Missouri sighting reports for the month, which included 26 in Lee’s Summit. “Normally, we get five or six reports a month statewide,” Kay added. “But in October, Missouri had the most sightings of anywhere, according to a report from MUFON International. We even beat out California, which is very difficult to do because it’s such a large state. And of the 75 sightings, most were in this area, with Lee’s Summit, Raytown and Kansas City being the hot spots.” Goslin didn’t report his sighting to MUFON. But he described the UFO he spotted to the Lee’s Summit Journal. While approaching U.S. 50 Highway on Interstate 470 on the evening of Oct. 31, he said, he looked up and saw a large, slow-moving craft outlined by strobe lights blinking “in a perfect pattern.” The KC Flight team planes also were equipped with strobe lights. But according to Goslin, he spotted the UFO at about 7:30 p.m. – about 45 minutes after the KC Flight team left Lee’s Summit Municipal Airport and about 30 minutes before it returned. “It was flying low, about 1,000 or 1,500 feet,” John said. “And it was moving only about 45 or 50 miles per hour. The only other thing I can think of that flies that slow would be a blimp. “Whatever it was, it was big. I’m thinking this thing had to be at least 100-plus feet across. I just sat there with my mouth hanging open, and everybody driving around me just slowed down, so I know they saw it too.” According to Kay, MUFON did receive a few reports Monday night of a large, solid craft with a dome on the top or bottom that ejected or received red balls of light. Goslin said he didn’t see any balls of light associated with the craft he spotted. But in early October, Kay said, several area residents reported seeing “orange balls of fire” ranging from three to 50 feet in diameter hovering over yards and roadways, then leaving in an easterly direction. “Some people have speculated they’re probes from other ships,” she said at the time. “Maybe they’re other life forms. Maybe they’re something natural we just don’t understand.” Since then, Kay added this week, the orbs have been described as red, bright white and a dull black, as well as orange, and some have been seen “inches off the ground and in close proximity to witnesses.” And instead of exiting in an easterly direction, she said, the glowing spheres are now being reported traveling “in all directions.” Kay said her organization is not ruling out the possibility that the spherical UFOs are experimental aircraft. But thus far, she said, “nobody is claiming creating them.” “The spheres are the most perplexing of the reports and occurred during the entire month of October,” according to a press release from Missouri MUFON this week. “Other unidentified objects include large craft with blue lights that are not typical aircraft lights, two craft that turned on their sides and took off at a high rate of speed, and large diamond and triangular shaped craft that hovered at tree level. “Radar reports from Oct. 4 indicate that a target was stationary at 38,000 feet, nine miles north of the sightings for approximately 20 minutes. This remains unexplained. Other radar indicates positive targets in the sighting areas. MUFON is analyzing these reports.” A number of UFO reports from the Lee’s Summit area on Oct. 4 have been linked to a practice flight of the KC Flight team, which left the local airport at 7:40 p.m. and returned at 8:20 p.m. that night, Kay said. But the large number of unexplained sightings has her and others asking, “Why are they happening in Missouri?” www.lsjournal.com/2011/11/04/75612/local-ufo-sightings-continue.html
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Post by skywalker on Nov 4, 2011 20:08:54 GMT -6
They mentioned large craft with blue lights. In the sighting touched had recently he also mentioned blue strobe lights. I wonder if it was the same thing?
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