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Post by Steve on Jan 17, 2011 21:06:07 GMT -6
Interesting, herding of the people. It always fascinates me to be able to read of your shared experiences. I wish more investigators were as forthcoming in sharing what they've learned over weeks, months, years. I appreciate your willingness of this type of sharing, especially your take on what is really going on in the abductee/ experiencer, and even alien world. It gives me glimpses of what I already feel to be true, but in such a matter-of-fact way. It also keeps me knowing that abductions are still happening and life still goes on. Thank you for taking the time to share with us, whether you realize it or not, your posts do not go unread:) How nice Iseen1, this is what I been saying for years.. I did not want Steve to leave Ufomania, at any cost.. I knew he was David the day he came on. Steve made Mufon a very nice place to be. Any UFO forum would love to have him.. Aren't we the lucky ones.. Afraid when my computer crashed last March, I lost all Steve's investigation post. I was so disappointed.. Losing everyone and all the things I kept.. Steve you want to start over?? ;D ;D I mean all that was written. I got them in my head all stored up but many details I have forgotten .. I started a thread here right off. With a pic you posted for me about an encounter in Canada. It was a photo of the praying mantis type. They are in blue silk suits.. A witness stopped his vehicle along a road side. when he seen the ship. After his abduction he drew these aliens. The photo was all I got, took a long time and I found it on yahoo images. I will get the thread I started here under Aliens, Im sure it must be praying mantis again.. He! He! maybe I can retrieve one encounter after all... It is very nice of you to post all these reports and sightings as everyone else feels too I'm sure.. Lois Lets start over Lois, We can start for everyone here with 'A' for abductions, end with 'Z' Zeta Reticuli.... This is the case you mentioned. Many abduction cases seem to weirdly never phase me. I never seem to have nightmares hearing all the stories (and first hand too), the hypnotic sessions I was privileged to join in and assist in the research....I worry about this sometimes. If caring and interested...am I too detached too? Heard many things, read many too. I do not consider myself an authority. Am I dis associative Pauline? Perhaps I am over thinking this. Strange, but if feels comfortable to me. But there have been a few that have spooked me, and this Yukon case was one of them. I don't know why, but here it is. Seldom on the Internet does one see a case like this presented so well and comprehensively in detail. I love details. Maybe it spooked me because you can begin to identify with the elements of the story more than most. It might be the photos of the terrain perhaps. Cold, stark, and the feeling like anyone there would be so exposed out there in the open. Here below are the Praying Mantis types you mentioned. If the depiction of the entities are accurate, perhaps among the usual questions one might ask them might be...".what fitness club do you belong to? " ;D Steve www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case100.htmwww.ufobc.ca/yukon/n-canol-abd/index.htmYou mean the Abduction on the North Canol Road Case. September 3, 1987, Dewhurst Creek, Yukon. Canada. Hey....do you want to see something really really scary?
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2011 14:28:28 GMT -6
Thank you soooooooooooo! much. I don't believe I have this again..
I had told the story how I hated big black elongated objects. And the Edsel automobile, when it came out I hated them.. I went into a frenzy when I pass the car lot after school. All these cars were lined up and the front vent was long and black, it give me the creeps.
It resembles these alien's eyes.. Not of a gray but some other aliens is my guess. I thought it was a praying mantis..
So you posted this for me.. I have often wondered if the face on these creatures are exactly like what the witness seen..
Thanks again I sure appreciate it. I'm a little surprised you knew what case I was referring to.
Lois, shamira
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Post by lois on Jan 18, 2011 14:56:51 GMT -6
Steve....Oh, yes the video.. I thought it was funny really! but did not remember it. Dan what's his name is so young here .. Hardly knew him
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Post by paulette on Jan 19, 2011 14:10:10 GMT -6
Dan Akryoid (spelling!) The set up is cool because one assumes a saucer is about to show up - not a carnivorous shape shifter. I guess he needed the car later....
I'm trying to figure out WHY you posted this with a seemingly serious report. But what I noticed was - the road was almost identical!
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Post by sansseed on Jan 19, 2011 18:25:05 GMT -6
From the Yukon abduction report... "I was really scared and tried to yell "No!", but all that came out was a gnarly growl. Everything went dark and I had the sensation of hurtling skyward at a terrific speed. I also felt that I was being stretched, as if my feet were on the ground and my upper body was 20 feet above. My whole body shooting skyward."
I read this paragraph, and instantly thought of dreams I have had over the years. Creepy. I'm just happy that mine were just dreams and not a remembered experience.
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Post by Steve on Jan 19, 2011 21:12:25 GMT -6
Dan Akryoid (spelling!) The set up is cool because one assumes a saucer is about to show up - not a carnivorous shape shifter. I guess he needed the car later.... I'm trying to figure out WHY you posted this with a seemingly serious report. But what I noticed was - the road was almost identical! Hi Pauline, It is a serious report Auntym asked about, but my scene from Twilight Zone, the Movie was just my exuberance and fun about story telling only. Forgive me. But instead of stories here, I hope the investigations related (some still on going) will be laid out over these pages for you for both the enjoyment, but as serious study, an expression of time and effort. Events experienced by real people. Steve
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Post by Steve on Jan 22, 2011 18:07:34 GMT -6
Spoke with my witnesses finally again last night (Friday 1/21/2011 18:00 hours 'local'). I was beginning to get worried. They are fine, but more has happened. The power to their home browned out unusually last weekend (Sunday), the witnesses daughter in another room looking out their window to the east, noticed a slowly pulsating blue white light (cycling about every 3 to 4 seconds dimming and brightening). The mother and father have seen a similar light. This light always seems to emanate low near or on the ground in the direction of a nearby meadow clearing. The light whatever it is, silhouettes the foreground trees. Our phone conversations are often interrupted, and last night was no exception. Two calls, the first I was interviewing the daughter (age 25), having been introduced by her mother. A second conversation then with the mother after we both reconnected. During that second conversation we were interrupted dramatically when the witness observed the same Blue white light again in the direction of the meadow clearing. The light then noticeably proceeded to lift vertically above the tree line, and move accelerating and climbing to her right (south east) disappearing in the distance. As the witness described this scene - now standing outside, our phone connection was cut off again on their end. I listened for half a minute afterward should we reconnect, or perhaps hear anything unusual technically perhaps effecting our connection. What is causing this? They insist their handheld phone is fully charged, and it seems to disconnect whenever these lights appear. Looking for a plausible conventional explanation first, maybe the Ni Cad batteries are not being cycled fully during their recharge perhaps? The Ni Cad 'memory' coming up short when they think it has a full charge? Or is something interfering? The home's electrical power browned out during a similar experience observing these same sort of Blue/white lights. UFO activity effecting electrical systems (both AC & DC) are well known. In the first phone conversation, the daughter related several odd occurrences earlier. One interesting thing she related was a few days before her mother had her encounter with the entity on or behind her fence near her bedroom window, the daughter now reported while walking toward their barn, out of her peripheral vision she observed something or someone very small (about 3 feet tall) on two legs, dashing out of the barn running under between the legs of their horse in their coral, heading toward the near by forest. She knew clearly it was not an animal on four legs. She then asked me if aliens sometimes come that size. I asked thoughtfully before answering what might have made her ask this? (re: alien). She said it was very small, wore some sort of tight fitting dark outfit, and was rather squat in appearance. The horse did not seem to spook whatever ran under it. This is their second event near or in the same barn area on their property. The first was earlier noticing someone or something had put the horses back in their stables, having been placed in the coral earlier that day, the horses inside with their the stables now locked. No one seemed to understand how they got back into their locked stables - and not in their usual stables either. Both half sisters have reported getting very little sleep. The other half sister chronically so. A lack of melatonin common for their age that sometimes disrupt sleep patterns? Loss of sleep also might begin to deprive them of alertness and clear observation too naturally. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MelatoninWhen the half sister presented her drawing of the alien on the fence she drew to the other half sister, she became very upset and started to sob. She related it was the same looking entity she remembered from her earlier regressions last year now remembered. She then begged her half sister to never get herself hypnotically regressed for fear of what she too might learn too. The other half sister does not wish to be regressed at present, and no one will ever be pushing this ever. It is only made known it is available to her if she wishes. In our earlier regression sessions, we had the couple (other half sister and her husband) after thoughtful discussion - they were warned they might have to live with what could be uncovered for the rest of their lives.. They were however adamant then in insisting on knowing. Some opt not to know. You really may not know till you know. They signed our HIPAA release forms authorizing their permission for our certified hypnotherapist to regress them when they expressed wishing to know more. One of the requirements of such a regression is the assurance to us an emotional support system exists first for the witness before such regressions take place. Strange lights - both close and distant, an entity seen at close range, strange clicking sounds, possible sleep paralysis, feeling exhausted in the morning when awakened after observing strange lights outside the previous night, possible physical trace effects - loss of electrical power, histories of earlier high strangeness including abductions documented in one of the two familes..... I suspect these possible visitors, if that is what is happening here...maybe conducting activities all these reluctant witnesses may not be even fully aware of consciously yet. One possible indication of this is how they always will relate a particular experience (such as seeing the entity a dozen feet away through the window while fully conscious) describing the beginning and middle of the experience, but never quite how it ends. They seem to forget, or some strange inablity to describe it. It might fail for some to notice that in a discussion, but in this research failing to adequately describe how such an extraordinary event ends to me is significant. The witness also told me two miles beyond in the same direction as the meadow, on an adjacent property, a cattle mutilation perhaps may have occur ed five years earlier. The wounds on the animal then reportedly showed signs of having a number of it's body parts cleanly and surgically removed. No tracks observed reportedly around where the animal was found too. Predators as is typically the case keeping a wide birth from the carcass. Local authorities were not called. We maybe traveling to this location in the spring. The witnesses are looking forward to meeting all of us. I myself might even camp out one night in that open meadow where these lights supposedly keep appearing. There is nothing in that area the witnesses report that could be confused with something conventional. - like a nearby home, or vehicle headlights. Should I call it a 'night watch' or perhaps a 'stake out'? I am still awaiting the entity drawing now in the mail. When it does, I have permission to share it here.
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Post by Arctic Amazon on Jan 22, 2011 19:27:12 GMT -6
She then asked me if aliens sometimes come that size. I asked thoughtfully before answering what might have made her ask this? (re: alien). She said it was very small, wore some sort of tight fitting dark outfit, and was rather squat in appearance. The horse did not seem to spook whatever ran under it. Wow. She has never heard of the little greys? Interesting. Was the horse spooked by the thing that ran underneath it? Maybe the horses are being abducted too if they weren't startled by the presence of the entities... that would also explain why they were put back into the barn. I can't wait to see the drawing when you post it. I hope your witness is a better artist than I am. ~smirk~
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Post by lois on Jan 22, 2011 19:58:12 GMT -6
Dan Akryoid (spelling!) The set up is cool because one assumes a saucer is about to show up - not a carnivorous shape shifter. I guess he needed the car later.... I'm trying to figure out WHY you posted this with a seemingly serious report. But what I noticed was - the road was almost identical! Hi Pauline, It is a serious report Auntym asked about, but my scene from Twilight Zone, the Movie was just my exuberance and fun about story telling only. Forgive me. But instead of stories here, I hope the investigations related (some still on going) will be laid out over these pages for you for both the enjoyment, but as serious study, an expression of time and effort. Events experienced by real people. Steve Steve, I believe it was little old me who ask for a rerun from Mufon.. on this article.. ;D ;D Lois aka shamira
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Post by Steve on Jan 22, 2011 20:08:21 GMT -6
Hi Arctic Amazon. Actually whatever it was that dashed under the horse, whether a trick of the eye upon the witness, or something perhaps more real, her description did not match the classic gray stereotype stick figure. It was rather a very short and squat 'little guy' as some investigators say sometimes. It is important to note that the witness was not aware of these kinds of 'aliens'. It reminds me more surprisingly like the little blue troll figures from perhaps Whitley Strieber's book/film 'Communion'. Scene from film below along with another experiencer's rendering of similar. I can't wait to see the drawing too. She says she is not much of an artist, so don't get too filled with anticipation yet. Steve
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Post by lois on Jan 22, 2011 20:19:31 GMT -6
It was probably the encounter which keep the phone from working.. Speaking of small aliens. I have seen a photo once in South America, where the little creature ran across the road under the horse I believe. I thought to my self, something this small with all that technology is unbelievable.
Of course the video may of been a hoax. I never heard anymore about that video after it was released.
Steve...If you do camp out in this meadow, I hope you get a good glimpse of a ufo up close. But don't go near it.. film it if you can..
They will know you are there before hand. It would mean they are letting you witness them.
Lois .. shamira
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Post by lois on Jan 22, 2011 20:23:41 GMT -6
Oops you posted as I did here. Yes those blue men have always amazed me too. I often wonder if any other witness has seen this species.. This is the aliens he said smelled like sulfur, or rather his own words burning cardboard. I think this is why speculate on them a lot.. As the burning cardboard I smell for decades and there is no where around me it could be coming from..
Lois
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Post by Steve on Jan 22, 2011 21:25:33 GMT -6
It was probably the encounter which keep the phone from working.. Speaking of small aliens. I have seen a photo once in South America, where the little creature ran across the road under the horse I believe. I thought to my self, something this small with all that technology is unbelievable. Of course the video may of been a hoax. I never heard anymore about that video after it was released. Steve...If you do camp out in this meadow, I hope you get a good glimpse of a ufo up close. But don't go near it.. film it if you can.. They will know you are there before hand. It would mean they are letting you witness them. Lois .. shamira I am sure they will know I am there in that meadow first. They may even know the conversations I am having with these witnesses. There is little I think they do not know in that situation. I do not think about it too much because it might weird me out, and certainly do not relate this to the witnesses i what I may suspect. I express my concern for the witnesses and accept the possibility as weird as it might seem any other party watching see what I am doing and hopefully it will reflect well upon me too. It might even be that most investigators, whether they realize it or not maybe part part of the 'contact' process in these possible encounters. We might also have some unwitting role in all this too. The one witness seems at present quite resigned to accept these things happening. What she calls now these 'visitors'. As long as they do no harm to her, her family or her animals. Hope that remains the case. Steve
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Post by lois on Jan 22, 2011 22:07:12 GMT -6
;D ;D Now that's too funny..
I believe it was thought to be on their clothing.. What ever product they are made from.. Hard telling what an alien would use. Must be something suited for space travel
Lois
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Post by lois on Jan 22, 2011 22:15:26 GMT -6
What happen to the cigar smoking blue men? Was here then gone
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Post by Steve on Jan 22, 2011 22:16:47 GMT -6
I forgot that Lois, these little tykes are associated reportedly with burning cardboard smells. Sorry lois, changed my mind and put it back so your post does not seem strangely too out of sequence. I put it back.... Steve solves 'burning cardboard mystery' (JJ I ain't!)
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Post by auntym on Jan 22, 2011 22:23:20 GMT -6
i've seen these hooded beings in my bedroom.... once was enough ....
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Post by sansseed on Jan 23, 2011 9:11:41 GMT -6
antym, my heart stopped when I saw the pictures too. Not so much the life like picture, but the drawing on the far right. I had a dream about that little guy. This was before I began researching UFO and aliens, and my knowledge was pretty much limited to grays and communion picture. It is moments like these that I ask..., was I dreaming or remembering?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 10:51:44 GMT -6
Really interesting to read Steve..I like "stake out' myself Talking of 'aliens' and horses..my friend and I were on horses the day we were intercepted and the horses didn't seem traumatized in the least and they were fairly high strung animals. Maybe they have some animal whisperer skills 'shrug'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 19:08:46 GMT -6
Really interesting to read Steve..I like "stake out' myself Talking of 'aliens' and horses..my friend and I were on horses the day we were intercepted and the horses didn't seem traumatized in the least and they were fairly high strung animals. Maybe they have some animal whisperer skills 'shrug'. Too bad they don't seem to have people skills...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 20:08:26 GMT -6
I suppose all said and done, we were lucky they wanted samples not lunch
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Post by sunbow on Jan 23, 2011 20:43:08 GMT -6
Sculpty. The eyes were like cats-eye only more yellow. The strangest part was the pupils looked like holes in the eyes, like hollow tubes. I later debated about the horns, they might have been part of a hat or headgear, but the tips were white and the base were blackened where they entered the face with a small tuft of hair. Very flat noses. The beings seemed female. They had very large teeth. The face was more round and they were fat stocky creatures with long strong gorilla like arms. Perhaps four or five feet tall. They were the hunters, the ground crew. They seemed to continually laugh and joke in a telepathic communication mode, toying with the human prey: teasing, but never mean. This model was ten years before communion. Attachments:
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Post by lois on Jan 23, 2011 22:52:23 GMT -6
Sunbow, this is a first for me.. thanks for posting.. I guess there are many aliens here like most say..
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Post by paulette on Jan 24, 2011 0:01:18 GMT -6
Are the "eyes" the yellow circles or the black almond shape? Or do you know??
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Post by sunbow on Jan 24, 2011 17:40:35 GMT -6
The eyes are yellow like cats-eye stone and the center black is like a hollow tube descending into the eyes for a pupil.
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Post by Steve on Jan 26, 2011 1:23:57 GMT -6
Case Notes - Tuesday - January 25, 2011 (17:00 hours local); I got an urgent phone call from my wife. She said my witness had phoned, and I was to call witness back as soon as I got home from work. Witness sounded anxious stating "an incident happened last night". This on going case has developed a number of paranormal elements over time. Other elements perhaps extraterrestrial. Last night (January 24, 2011) around 9:55 PM local, the main witness's daughter (25) stepping outside noticed the usual 'Blue Lights' reported seen now by all 5 witnesses at various times earlier. This time she was ready, grabbed her camera next to the door. The lights had now approached closer in the meantime, and she pointing her camera up at a 45 degree azimuth took these series of photos. They were visible for about a minute or more only, then simply disappeared in front of her by 'winking out'. Then later that night - even stranger activity occured. The 5 witnesses involved compose two families living in three homes within 100 yards distant from one another. Around 1 AM, the main witness could not sleep while laying in bed next to her husband (a California king) when she suddenly felt her bed blankets yanked away from over her in the darkness. Then the bed sheets under her body were now being pulled out from under her too..... bunched up at the foot of the exposed mattress. The witnesses husband's completely out during this, his half of the bed was undisturbed! She got up, turned on the light terrified. She then stayed up all night unable to sleep. Outside her bedroom window she could hear again the usual clicking sounds all night, the witness describing to me "they were talking to each other all night". The next morning (this morning), it was discovered this strange happening had occured to the other two women too - the neighboring half sister, and the witnesses daughter too at her near by residence!!! Each described their blankets suddenly yanked off them, and their bedsheets under them pulled out from under them bunched up at the end of the mattress. The other half sisters husband was also completely out and his side of their bed undisturbed too! Only the women were effected - the two half sisters, and the one half sisters daughter. All had sleepless nights. The one half sister supposedly abducted last year described herself as a nervous wreck tonight. These seem to suggest possible paranormal elements. Including perhaps the Blue lights. The extraterrestrial elements entail the clear view of the entity in the bedroom window reported earlier, and tonight the witness now described how thoughts seemed to be coming from somewhere into her head. Thoughts that extraterrestrials were now present with them on the property, that these extraterrestrials were from a far away planet, and they were able to visit their place only temporarily, and were adapting themselves to be able to physically remain permanently. She kept asking me why would she speculate such things? It was not like her she stated to think that way. (did she receive a download perhaps?) I suggested tonight perhaps they might consider having ' women's sleep over' perhaps tonight. Sleeping in the same large living room together best they could with the lights on. Each would find comfort from the presence of the other, and all three could witness together if they experienced anything, cameras ready. At the same time, I told each of them they each individually have the strength and will to push out whatever might be on their property. A new element, a homeless man was recently hired by the witness. He had answered a newspaper add to work on their property. He slept in his tent outside about 75 yards away from the compound last night. This morning, unawares of the events that had been occurring, the homeless man reported independently this morning to the witness he noticed very strange lights and happenings occurring all night from his tent. I suggested the witness get a more detailed report. The daughter is feeling a bit dismayed her mom would have a homeless person sleeping nearby so close, and she feels she expressed to me some bad feelings about this person. I then later added that the witness perhaps ask the homeless man to produce some identification for the record. I asked about the history of the property. All three women have reported mild flu like symptoms from time to time too lately. I reminded the witness about mailing her drawings to me. Not prepared at this time to speculate, need to consider and consult my colleagues. Is it possible certain conditions might arise were both UFO and paranormal activity co mingle? If paranormal, some sort of spirit nest has been disturbed somehow? I know there appears to be some paranormal aspect to some UFO activity sometimes. If mostly paranormal, I am inexperienced, and will need to defer to our hypnotheripist, who seems much more experienced and knowledgeable. Some areas of the planet seem to be notable for these happenings. Lets hope we do not have a little sky walker ranch building here somehow. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 1:34:09 GMT -6
Wow....
Very interesting case thus far Steve...
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Post by sansseed on Jan 26, 2011 6:18:41 GMT -6
Wow! Those poor women. Whatever is causing it, I would be frightened too, and wanting answers.
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Post by lois on Jan 26, 2011 15:39:36 GMT -6
What ever it is somehow keeps the husband sound asleep.. It has happen to me like this twice. In the case where our house shook for five night straight and my daughter was throne from her bed. He never woke up.. Amazing, but he did once and thought his whole family was going a little crazy.. We just quit taking to him about it.. We did think at the time it could be a spaceship, but all of us but him went out into the snow and combed the sky.. We seen nothing..
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Post by Steve on Jan 26, 2011 21:10:27 GMT -6
I am doing historical research of the area now. I have found one very astonishing historical image. I would love to share, but it would tip off easily the location. Sorry.
Talking with the three ladies, the three have varying emotional reactions. The two older half sisters are each a bit anxious to mildly frightened (one is). The younger daughter by contrast is thrilled. Each of the women also have some matching medical conditions too.
Steve
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