That white band is what folks down here in Texas call a "road." ;D
At least that's what they look like on people's ranches. Looking at the pictures I can see tire tracks turning onto the road from the left both coming and going. The tire tracks are older than the circle though.
I can also see the tracks of cows that walked across from the bottom left corner heading towards the top right. Those appear to be older also and were probably made when the ground was muddy. The circles look like they were made recently while the ground was dry, which is why the mud is broken up the way that it is.
I have seen circles just like this before but it was many years ago. I never did figure out what made them but I definitely was curious, even back then. There has got to be an answer.
Thanks, dude. Any idea what they might be? I'm going to look into it as soon as I get back down to Texas.
To do a comprehensive investigation, one would need to visit the location. It could be many things. Are there traces showing a stake or impression in the ground in the area's center for instance? (I think you are sensing from that what I am considering first).
The soil looks remarkably grated and level compared to the soil outside the circle. Has anyone returned to check the location since? The ground could have been carefully leveled for perhaps a small water storage tank for a new nearby well? An early construction progress photo - turned then into something 'fun' on the Internet? Such ground leveling would be consistent with such construction. To what extent are vehicle tracks (if any) nearby out of view in the photos?
Also the local area I am sure has acquired a social 'culture' now related to UFO's in it's proximity to 'Stephenville'. Long after such a 'flap', usually the remaining lingering after effects tends to remain in the local 'Psyche'. This can later manifest itself in many curious ways.
Note the brush and the tree in the background left in one photo seems unaffected in one area of the parameter (around the 10 to 11 o'clock position). Are the shrubs unaffected? The branches on the tree show anything? Bent? Broken? Scorched? Leaves wilted compared to other 'control' areas of the same tree?
Overall too, compared to other so claimed UFO landing physical effects, the area looks too precise - too 'neat and pretty'. The soil is curious in the closeup, it has been disturbed, but is uniform all around the ring's parameter? No easily apparent tools seemed to have been used. Yet, compared to the soil outside the ring, it looks like it has been wet and has dried and baked as one would expect. If someone was perpetrating a hoax, someone used great care. No apparent obvious foot traffic at least at the time the photos were taken.
So many things to consider first, but because there are so many things to consider, there lies the danger in forming conclusions without facts first.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Mar 25, 2011 9:29:46 GMT -6
Analysis of Reports of Stephenville/Dublin Lights on 02/10/11
I just finished gathering and analyzing all of the reports I could find pertaining to the mysterious lights that appeared in the Stephenville/Dublin area on 02/10/11. I was able to to find twelve reports total from that one specific date. Nine of them I found from various sites on the Internet and three I got in person from people who lived in the area. There have been many other reports submitted before and since then but I want to concentrate on that one specific date for now to see if I can figure out what exactly is going on.
The lights that were reported averaged between three and two-dozen. They were described as both stationary and moving, in both coordinated patterns and independently. Three people said they lights appeared to be a part of a much larger craft, either triangular or circular in shape. The rest of the people believed the lights were separate from one another although they did sometimes move in unison, even lining up in rows at times. This suggests that they were intelligently controlled.
The color was generally described as being orange or amber. One witness claimed the lights turned red just before they disappeared. Another said there was a single green light amidst the others.
Of the twelve reports I have, nine witnesses also reported seeing what appeared to be military aircraft in the immediate area. The witnesses were adamant that the lights and the aircraft were not the same, and in most cases the planes appeared after the lights. The number of planes was estimated to be between three and seven. They were described variously as either escorting the lights or searching for them. Several witnesses reported that the lights seemed to be evading the jets, either disappearing when the aircraft approached, or moving away from them at great speed.
The military has admitted that planes were conducting maneuvers in the area on that night, however they would not give any details about what exactly the planes were doing. It is the military's policy to not divulge specific information about their training procedures in order to prevent foreign spies from gathering too much data about combat tactics and capabilities.
Some people have suggested that since military planes were in the area conducting combat training maneuvers then it is possible that the lights people were seeing were just flares. The military does often use flares in its training exercises and some of them are extremely bright. In addition to evasion flares which fighter jets deploy to try to confuse and intercept enemy missiles, there are also various types of flares that are dropped from a plane and suspended by a parachute so that they drift slowly downward and illuminates vast areas of the ground below. These flares may account for some of the sightings, particularly those in which stationary orange or amber-colored lights were reported. These flares can not however, explain the reports of lights that were moving and evading the planes, if any of them were in fact doing so.
The wide variety of differences among the descriptions of the sightings makes it difficult to come to any definitive conclusions, but there are a few commonalities among the reports. The orange/amber color of the lights and the military planes at the scene both seem to be common to the majority of the incidents. While it is much too early to begin jumping to conclusions there are a few assumptions which can be made about what might possibly be going on in the Stephenville area.
1. It is possible that the lights are part of the military maneuvers which are taking place and the military planes are interacting with them somehow.
2, It is possible that the lights are unknown objects that the planes are responding to and the military is only claiming they were conducting maneuvers as a smoke screen for what was really taking place.
3. It is possible that the lights and the planes are totally coincidental and have nothing whatsoever to do with one another. (This last one I believe is the least plausible.)
The next step of my investigation will be to examine the rest of the reports which have been made before and after the recent sightings on February 10. That is going to take some time however since there have been hundreds of reports filed from that area over the past few years. I'll keep everybody updated on any progress that I make.
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Mar 25, 2011 19:52:52 GMT -6
Okay, last night was kind of weird. I was out looking for the Stephenville Lights which is what I always do when I'm in the Central Texas area. Lampasas was my base of operations. I left there about 8pm just as it was getting dark.
I headed north on highway 183 towards Goldthwaite, which is where those mysterious dirt circles were recently discovered. From there I headed towards Brownwood but after a while of not seeing anything I decided to turn around and head back south. When I got to Lometa I wasn't sure which way I wanted to go so I pulled off the side of the road to look at the map.
As I was sitting there I noticed a red light fly through the sky to my left, followed a short time later by another one. The red light had a blinking red light on it also. I got out of the pickup and could barely hear the sound of helicopter blades so I assumed that is what they were. As I was sitting there watching the red lights suddenly turned green and they started weaving back and forth through the sky. I still wasn't sure what was going on so I decided to drive closer to get a better look.
I moved to a point on the side of the road where I was directly underneath them and sat there watching the show. From my vantage point I could see that they were definitely military helicopters and they were performing some pretty impressive maneuvers. They were darting back and forth, in and out, zig-zagging around in circles and all over the place. The really weird thing is that they kept changing the color of lights that were on them. There were red, green and white lights, but the pattern kept changing every few seconds. Sometimes they would have the white light with the red blinking light, sometimes green and red, sometimes all three of them...every now and then all of the lights would go black and the chopper would disappear for a few seconds. It was an amazing show.
After watching for about an hour I decided to leave for home so I started the truck and headed back towards Lampasas. I hadn't gone for more than a mile when I came around a curve and saw a police car sitting in the middle of the road. He was right smack in the middle of the road. All of the car's lights were out and the officer was talking on the radio.
About a quarter mile further I saw a white pickup parked on the side of the road with a man dressed in black military garb standing in the back. He was fiddling around with some device that looked like a big bazooka mounted on a pedestal. As I drove by he looked at me like I wasn't supposed to be there. A quarter mile later there was another one. Then another...and another. Five of them total. I have no idea what they were doing but they were all watching the helicopters. I continued on my way and as I headed out of town another white pickup pulled out of a parking lot and started following me.
I continued driving with the truck right behind me. I speeded up to get away from him and he speeded up. I slowed down and he slowed down. No matter what I did he stayed right behind me. At one point I was all the way down to 50 miles per hour (in a 65 mph zone) and the guy stayed right behind me. It was twenty miles later before I finally turned off the road and got away from him as he kept going straight.
I have no idea what the helicopters were doing and I don't have a clue what those dudes in the pickups were doing but it definitely was weird. Luckily I'm still here to report it, so if anything else happens I'll be able and let you know.
Last Edit: Apr 2, 2011 11:31:34 GMT -6 by skywalker
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I don't know who they were, dude. The people in the pickups did not look like they were military but I don't know who else they could have been or what they were doing, and I have no idea why the helicopters kept changing their lights the way that they did. I can see why some people might mistake them for UFOs though. I think that a lot of the lights the people report seeing in the Stephenville area are probably just the military performing maneuvers out there. That would explain a lot of the sightings. Not all of them but some of them. There are some that still might still be a mystery..
This case was just recently submitted to MUFON. It is from Lampasas which is the town where I grew up, and is the same area where I have been doing some of my recent research.
In spite of all of the activity I have experienced there, Lampasas doesn't have many official UFO reports.
Case Number: 28501 Log Number: US-04012011-0008 Submitted Date: 2011-04-01 13:42 GMT Event Date: 2011-03-31 18:45 GMT Status: Assigned City: Lampasas Region: Texas Country: US Longitude: -98.1816957 Latitude: 31.063784 Shape: Egg,Oval,Sphere Distance: Over one mile Vallee Index: MA1 Description: I live in lampasas 70 miles north and a little west of austin tx. at about 1845CST I was in my backyard talking to my wife. I noticed a bird in the east and followed it toward the south. That is when I saw multipe objects and commented to my wife. She saw them also. They seemed to be traveling east to west. My first thought was they were a group of missles/rockets, then aircraft, then in unison they stopped in the sky roughly East South East(more east than south) of my position. At that point I was 100% sure I was not looking at at known conventional aircraft, ballons,birds or flares... Using the horizontal as 9 o'clock the objects were at about 11 o'clock. Estimate height at 30-40000ft. Actual Height is unknown as I had no refernce for size other than the "vapor trails". Distance from my observation point is unknown(Maybe 10-20 miles). The objects moved at multiple angles to initial trajectory. Appeared to fade out and reappear, forming geometric shapes. I beliveve the obects were reflcting light from the setting son. They all stayed in same patch of sky, 2, 3 or 5 would wander south a bit away from main group. then disappear and reapper in main group. As time went on there were less in the sky. 12 down to 10 down to 7,6,5,4,3,2,1. eventually all disappeared. I stayed and watched until all were gone. The show lasted about 20-25 minutes. I served 20 years in the US army. Trained in security/observation/surveillance. Please contact me cell phone or primary email listed. I will talk to third parties(selective).
Last Edit: Apr 2, 2011 8:12:33 GMT -6 by skywalker
Post by Morgan Sierra on Apr 2, 2011 12:41:12 GMT -6
He definitely saw something interesting. Now I have to try to figure out what it was.
Judging by the description the witness gave the location of the objects would have been approximately 20 miles south of the Fort Hood military base, and they would have been coming from that general area apparently heading to the southwest. Due west of Lampasas is Abeline which has a military airfield, and directly south is San Antonio, which has several Air Force bases. Fort hood is an Army base with a lot of helicopters and prop planes but no jet aircraft (as far as I know anyway). It is also rumored to have once been a storage area for nuclear weapons.
The area to the west of Lampasas is known as the Brownwood Military Operations Area. They do a lot of training out there, especially involving jet-powered aircraft from San Antonio and Abeline, and choppers from Fort Hood. I think that many of the Stephenville Lights that people have been reporting are military aircraft and flares that they are deploying during maneuvers. That would easily explain most of the sightings, although there are still a few strange ones that need further investigation.
I see a lot of military helicopters in the lampasas area. In fact, I see them almost every day that I am there. They constantly fly over the land that I camp out on as they are heading west from Fort Hood. They used to do infantry training in the area also back in the 50s and 60s. When I was a little kid I used to sometimes find military equipment and other artifacts that the soldiers had lost while on maneuvers. I have several helmets and shovels, plus a bunch of bullets and artillery shells that I dug up out of the weeds. They are all pitted with rust and corrosion but still pretty cool.
It is possible that what the witnesses saw were military aircraft. There is no way to tell for certain though. Even if the military admitted that they were should we believe them? It's not like the government has never lied before to keep one of it's secrets. And what type of aircraft could they have been? Helicopters don't leave vapor trails and jet planes don't stop in midflight. If they aren't military aircraft then what are they?
I'm going to keep my eyes open. Whether these UFO sightings turn out to be military aircraft or not there is definitely something unusual going on out there.
I just found this listed on the NUFORC site under the heading "case solved." It is in regard to the dirt circles in Goldthwaite.
Occurred : 3/4/2011 (Entered as : 3-4-2011) Reported: 3/14/2011 10:32:33 AM 10:32 Posted: 3/23/2011 Location: Goldthwaite, TX Shape: Duration: case S80116 solved
Concerning NUFORC case number S80116- After further investigation by an area investigator, it was determined (through photos and further witness statements) that the crop circles were in all probability the tracks left from the prior weekend when several young men went "muddin" in their big mud trucks. While there was considerable concern that the circles were perfect in shape, witness did not wish to have the case investigated further.
((NUFORC Note: We express our sincere gratitude to Teresa Turner, MUFON Deputy Director, Documentation, and State Section Director. She is also a member of, and Investigator, for the MUFON Star Team. PD))
What kind of BS is this? Those circles were not caused by tire tracks. I don't know what did cause them but it sure as heck wasn't tire tracks. Is this another case of the government's UFO agency covering something up? Is MUFON sweeping this into their hidden broom closet with all the rest of the evidence they have gathered over the years? If this is the type of "investigation" that MUFON's infamous STAR team conducts than it is no wonder we are still in the dark about UFOs after all these decades.
More BS about the dirt circles found in Goldthwaite, this time from the NUFORC site.
The marks on the ground at a farm site in Goldthwaite, Texas, have been investigated by Teresa Turner, MUFON “Star Team” Investigator, and Deputy Director for Documentation. Following her investigation of the incident, she has concluded that the marks in the ground, first reported by the property owner, were caused by men driving trucks on the farm. Ms. Turner’s follow-up report to NUFORC can be read here. We express our sincere gratitude to Ms. Turner, and to Mr. Fletcher Gray, MUFON Texas Assistant State Director, for their effort in investigating, and resolving, this case.
Investigating and "resolving" this case?? That case hasn't been resolved the slightest bit. There is no way on God's green Earth that those circles were caused by tire tracks from any vehicle. If that is the type of sloppy investigating that MUFON does than it is no wonder we still don't know what UFOs are. They may as well have just "resolved" it as swamp gas and a weather balloon!
Post by Morgan Sierra on Apr 15, 2011 20:38:31 GMT -6
Swamp Gas, Weather Balloons and...Tire Tracks?
It seems the debunkers have a new weapon in their arsenal. In addition to the usual sure-fire tactics they normally employ to beat UFO believers into submission...like swamp gas, weather balloons, sleep paralysis, etc...they now have another skeptical bomb at their disposal...tire tracks. That's right, tire tracks. This was the "brilliant" explanation used to discredit a recent crop circle sighting in Goldthwaite, Texas.
Of course, the term crop circle is a little misleading in this case since in order to have a crop circle you first have to have a crop...you know, stuff that grows up out of the ground and gets harvested by farmers? These circles happened to appear in the middle of a cow pasture and the only vegetables growing out there are the kind that have horns and say "Moo." Nevertheless, people still referred to them as crop circles simply because there were circles...two of them...embedded in the dirt.
The circles were first discovered on March 4, 2011. It is unknown when they were actually created since the land they appeared on is not frequently used, but when the property-owner finally went to check on her ranch, there they were...two strange circles imprinted on the ground.
Each circle consisted of a strip of churned up earth approximately 15 inches wide and perfectly round. The inner circle was approximately twenty feet in diameter, the outer close to twenty-seven feet. There were no tracks leading too or away from them, nor were their any identifying markings of any kind. No tread marks, foot prints, shovel indentations...nothing. It was like they just appeared there out of thin air.
Several photos were taken by the initial witness and a report was filed with NUFORC. MUFON's elite STAR team investigators were called in to investigate while the photos were quickly disseminated throughout various internet sites and forums. Nobody who saw the photos was able to come up with a convincing explanation for how the circles were formed.
I, personally, do not have a clue how they were formed. I have seen circles similar to these in the past and I never could figure out how the darned things were created. I have several theories about them but nothing convincing. There simply is not any readily available explanation for them. The new ones are just as mysterious, with no obvious identifying marks of any kind. Faced with an absence of conclusive evidence I was ready to chalk this recent case up as another unexplained mystery, so you can imagine my surprise when I happened to read a NUFORC update which claimed that the case had been solved!
It said: "The marks on the ground at a farm site in Goldthwaite, Texas, have been investigated by Teresa Turner, MUFON “Star Team” Investigator, and Deputy Director for Documentation. Following her investigation of the incident, she has concluded that the marks in the ground, first reported by the property owner, were caused by men driving trucks on the farm. Ms. Turner’s follow-up report to NUFORC can be read here."
Driving trucks on the farm? How on God's brown Texas Earth could perfect circles have been formed by "men driving trucks on the farm?" Incredulous with disbelief I then proceeded to read the follow-up report which gave a few more scant details.
"Concerning NUFORC case number S80116- After further investigation by an area investigator, it was determined (through photos and further witness statements) that the crop circles were in all probability the tracks left from the prior weekend when several young men went "muddin" in their big mud trucks. While there was considerable concern that the circles were perfect in shape, witness did not wish to have the case investigated further."
Did I read that right? Did that say that the tracks were in all probability left over from the previous weekend when several young men went "muddin" in their big trucks? Just in case anybody does not know what "muddin" is, allow me to explain.
Muddin, or mudding, is where a bunch of drunken rednecks drink a lot of beer and then get in their vehicles, (usually big pickup trucks) and drive out to some muddy cow pasture or field somewhere. They then stomp on the gas pedal and spin around in circles and slide all over the place through the mud. The faster they go the better they like it. In some cases of extreme drunkenness they might even attach an old car hood to the back of the truck with a rope and then one of the drunken rednecks can ride on the hood as the truck goes churning around at ever-increasing speeds. The revelry usually lasts until the truck flips over or the guy on the car hood goes sailing off into a ditch and ends up with multiple broken bones and lacerations. This is what good ol' boys call fun.
Someone once theorized that if you were to put a bunch of monkeys in a room and had them typing nonstop on type-writers for a certain period of time sooner or later through sheer chance they would accidentally create the entire works of Shakespeare. Whether or not that is true I don't know, but I do know that if you put a hundred drunken rednecks behind the wheel of a bunch of pickups and have them go sliding around in the mud there is no way they are going to create a perfect circle...I don't care how long they try. It ain't gonna happen.
What all of that means is that there is no way in Hades that those circles were created by "tire tracks." A closer look at the evidence also argues against the "official" explanation.
First of all there are no tread marks of any kind...none, nada, zero. Secondly, there are no ruts of any kind which there surely would be if a tire were spinning through the mud with the weight of a vehicle pressing down on it. These tracks were not depressed into the ground at all. It looked like the Earth was just broken up somehow by something scraping along the top of it. Third, there are no tracks leading to or away from the circles. So what happened? Did some modern-day cowboy drop down out of the sky, make a perfect circle with his "iron horse" then sail off into the sunset? Not unless a Ford Thunderbird really can sprout wings and fly.
Another problem with the "tire-track" theory is the dimensions of the circles. The measurements of the two circles are approximately 20 feet and 27 feet in diameter. That would mean that if they were made by a vehicle then it would have to have a track width from wheel to wheel of close to seven feet wide. A quick check of the dimensions of most modern full-sized pickups shows a track width of about 65 to 68 inches, which means that a "big" truck would be almost a foot and a half too narrow to create the tracks.
There also is the problem of the turning radius. This is the diameter of the smallest circle that a vehicle would be able to turn in if the steering wheel were cranked all the way. The Goldthwaite circles are only twenty feet in diameter for the inside circle yet a full-size pickup would take almost twice that distance to make a complete turn...there is no way a pickup could turn a complete circle in twenty feet. If the rear wheels were sliding and the truck were spinning around with the front bumper chained to a stake it might be possible to turn that sharply but then the rear tire tracks would be almost overlapping one another...they definitely would not maintain a seven foot wide track.
What all of this means is that there is no way those circles were made by tire tracks from a vehicle. So what did make them?
I don't know. Obviously the circles must have been made by something, terrestrial or otherwise, but at this time I do not know what it was and I will be the first to admit it. I just wish the MUFON investigator would have done the same, instead of saying that "in all probability" they were tire tracks. Mrs. Turner herself practically admitted that she had doubts about that explanation when she stated that "there was considerable concern that the circles were perfect in shape..."
So why did she bring the case to a premature conclusion with a faulty explanation that she had suspicions about? The answer lies in the next words that she wrote saying that "the witness did not wish to have the case investigated further." Apparently, since Mrs. turner realized she would not be able to do a more detailed analysis of the evidence she decided to close the investigation by assigning to it the most probable explanation she could come up with--tire tracks--even if she and everybody else who looked at the photos instinctively knows it is not correct.
I wonder how many times this has happened in the past? Do Ufologists routinely assign false explanations to difficult cases simply so they can bring the case to a close? Is the reason why so many UFO sightings end up being classified as swamp gas, Venus or weather balloons, simply because those are the most convenient explanations an investigator can come up with? If so, it is no wonder we still don't know the truth about UFOs after more than six decades of studying them. If investigators are going to assign convenient BS excuses to every difficult case than we never will find out the truth.
I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in the outcome of this case. I would expect this type of haphazard explanation from a rabid skeptic or debunker, but not from MUFON which is supposed to be the largest and most credible UFO investigative organization in the world. And their STAR team is supposed to be the most elite of the investigators. This type of lackadaisical attitude is inexcusable.
I am also disappointed in the fact that NUFORC would blindly accept such a lame explanation without question simply because a MUFON investigator gave it to them. They should have known better than that. A case should not be declared to be "solved" unless there really is an accurate solution. If they are unsure about the explanation or if they just don't know, then they should classify it as "unexplained" or "unsolved" or "Who the heck knows?" They shouldn't just blindly accept the first thing that comes along.
There is no harm in admitting that something is unexplainable. Unidentified Flying Objects by their very nature are hard to identify. Igannance of what they are may not be the truth that we seek but at least it is the truth. I would rather have that than a pile of BS any day...even if it is a convenient pile of BS.
Last Edit: Apr 19, 2011 21:51:54 GMT -6 by skywalker
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Post by Morgan Sierra on Apr 22, 2011 19:43:12 GMT -6
I sent an email to the NUFORc site complaining about the phony-baloney explanation for the dirt circles in Goldthwaite. This is what I said...
In regards to the case of the mysterious circles which appeared in Goldthwaite, Texas, I strongly disagree with the "official" explanation put forward by MUFON investigator Teresa Turner that the circles were caused by "tire tracks" from people driving trucks on the farm.There is no possible way that those circles were caused by tire tracks, and there are many reasons why, including the absence of tread marks, the lack of tracks leading to or away from the circles, the dimensions of the circles which do not match the dimensions of any vehicles on the road, and the fact that the circles were perfectly round. It is my understanding that Teresa Turner never actually went out to view the tracks in person because the property owner did not wish to have the case investigated any further so she came up with the first reasonable explanation she could think of and labeled the case as "solved." This case is not even close to being solved and it never will be if investigators don't put more effort into their investigations. I am a paranormal investigator myself and I do a lot of work in the Central Texas area. I have seen these types of circles on one occasion in the past and I still do not know what caused them, but I know for certain they are not tire tracks.
Sincerely, Morgan Sierra
Believe it or not, Peter Davenport actually sent me a reply and said that he agreed with several of the points that I made. He then asked if he could forward my comments to Teresa Turner, the MUFON investigator who looked into the case. That should be interesting.
I hope my comments about her weren't too harsh. That wasn't what I intended. The last thing I need to be doing is making enemies out of everybody in the UFO community. I already have enough enemies as it is, but still, I don't see how we are ever going to find any answers if we just blindly accept the first explanation that comes along.
Swamp gas, weather balloons, sleep paralysis...the skeptics bombard us with this nonsense every day. Are we going to start doing their job for them? Are we all going to become debunkers?
People should not be afraid of their governments...governments should be afraid of their people
When I first started writing my essay about it I was initially going to rip her and MUFON a new one for conducting such a sloppy investigation. But then I learned that the current STAR team members are paying most of their expenses out of their own pockets and I toned it down quite a bit. It's not easy doing this stuff when you have to pay for it yourself, and I'm sure she has a lot of other responsibilities as well. I can understand why she didn't do a more thourough investigation, especially since the original witness no longer wanted to proceed with the investigation. I just wish she wouldn't have given that lame explanation. If she doesn't know what it is then she should just say so. There's nothing wrong with saying that something is unknown.
Last Edit: Apr 23, 2011 6:11:54 GMT -6 by skywalker
I'm investigating a ghost sighting. It took place in the little town where I grew up, Lampasas, Texas. I have personally had a lot of weird experiences out in that area so there is definitely something going on down there. I'm doing some background research on the history of the area right now. Will give details as soon as I get them.
Post by Morgan Sierra on May 11, 2011 20:54:43 GMT -6
Shami (Lois) just sent me these photos in an email. She said that her grandaughter took them while on vacation in the Southwest last month.
You can see that there is a mysterious dark object that appears to be hovering in the air. The photographer states that she did not notice anything when taking the photos but was concentrating on the landscape in the background.
Here is an enlargement of the object.
I tried to enlarge it more but it just looks like a big blurry pixelated blob. There is another smaller, lighter looking one in the upper right hand corner of the top photo. I was thinking that they might be rock chips in the windshield since the photo appears to have been taken through the windshield as they were driving down the highway. Anybody else have any opinions?
Post by heidihybrid on May 11, 2011 21:08:55 GMT -6
Interesting. At first the resized pic looked to me like a black helicopter lol but perhaps they are just rock chips in the windshield since they're kinda small then they are almost unnoticeable unless a picture is taken and zoomed in IMO.
To me it looks much like the CV-22 Osprey they've been testing out here a lot lately. For those who haven't seen it..it's basically a helicopter with props on either side giving it an odd silhouette shape. The props rotate down or up..it's pretty cool to see in flight. I don't know that's what she captured but it's my guess.
Last Edit: May 12, 2011 10:28:18 GMT -6 by Deleted
She did not remember this in the sky. Now a helicopter seems she would of heard it.. I was looking at them on facebook and drawled her attention to this photo. she went into Mew Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and Utah.. but cannot tell which state this is. What State does it look like to you people . a wild guess..
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BLACK DOG: New comments, same me, odd posting comments on what I said earlier, like talking to yourself....
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BLACK DOG: BACK again to visit my past works.
Mar 5, 2020 0:13:10 GMT -6
jarmen1971: Hello all, it has been a while
Jul 22, 2020 18:18:51 GMT -6
auntym: welcome back jarmen...
Jul 23, 2020 13:32:00 GMT -6
jarmen1971: Thank you
Jul 25, 2020 11:26:57 GMT -6
jarmen1971: It has been another rough patch but thank goodness I am back
Jul 25, 2020 11:27:41 GMT -6