If you do get too close, and they search your vehicle, having a telescope and camera on hand may not be a good thing. As long as you dont have pics that they may want to confiscate or they find out of the ordinary you may be o.k. though. Either way, good luck and have fun ! I cant wait to see more pics soon !
I'm back from my "scouting expedition." I found out that they don't have fences around Area 51, they just have orange poles marking the boundary. They also have cameras hidden in the cactuses and anybody who crosses the boundary gets arrested, interrogated for five hours and fined $600.00 for trespassing on government property. That's just for the first offense. It goes up higher if you get caught twice. (Not that I have any personal experience or anything :
I also stopped at the Little Ale Inn and checked it out. Will post photos after I get some sleep. I haven't had any the past few days. When this vacation is over I am going to need to take a vacation from my vacation!
I'll be happy to share all of the juicy details as soon as I get back home. I'm still sneaking around in Nevada right now. Tomorrow I will start heading back to Texas but I still have a few more things planned along the way. I'm taking lots of photos to share with the peoples here.
Post by Morgan Sierra on Aug 20, 2011 23:50:57 GMT -6
I went out to see the Marfa Lights again last night. This time I got there a little bit earlier, right as the sun was going down so there was still just a little bit of light in the sky. Unfortunately, there was a wildfire burning on top of the mountain to the west of where the lights usually appear and the haze from the smoke was making it difficult to see the lights. They were much more dim than they usually are and I could not get my camera to focus on them in the darkness.
I was able to take a few pictures of some other lights though. These belong to cars that were driving down highway 67 heading south out of Marfa.
One of the explanations that skeptics have come up with to explain the lights is that they are car headlights. I believe that Steve brought this up earlier. I did some checking while I was there and I was able to determine that while standing at the viewing area it is possible to see cars driving down highway 67. These headlights occur to the west of where the lights normally appear, although the Marfa Lights do sometimes occur off in that direction also. Most of the time they appear more to the east which would be in the general vicinity of the red tower light that I pointed out in my earlier photos.
Here are some photos showing the car headlights.
Notice how the car lights appear right at the base of the mountain, unlike the Marfa Lights which sometimes occur very high in the air above the mountains. These lights are very easily identifiable as car headlights when looking through a telescope...even one of the low powered ones there at the viewing area. I was able to make out both headlights and taillights of cars.
If you take a look at the last photo you may also notice that there is an errant red light beneath the cars that should not be there. I am not sure whether this red light is a Marfa Light or just an optical illusion caused by refracted light, like in a mirage. I did not actually see the red light until after I had taken the photo.
I did see some other Marfa Lights while I was there though. They were very dim because I was watching through the haze caused by the wild fire but I could still see them through my telescope. What I saw further convinces me that these are not car headlights.
In one instance I saw two lights moving in unison down and to the right yet after a few seconds the lights parted company and headed in opposite directions, one to the left and one to the right. Cars on the highway could not have done that.
In another instance I saw a group of six lights, three that were dim and in a stationary triangle pattern, and three others that once again were moving down and to the right. All three seemed to be following each other until the last light suddenly decided to zip horizontally to the right past the other two. At the distance it was from me if it had been a car it would have to have been moving at several hundred miles an hour to be able to move that quickly. That maneuver would have been impossible for a car to make.
I plan to do some more research out there in the future and will let you know when I have more details.
Also notice the errant red light in the last photo.
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I don't know, dude. It wasn't visible in the camera. It definitely is not a tail light because it is not on the highway where the rest of the cars are. Also if you look closely at it there appears to be a little bit of a tail behind it like it was moving. It very well could be a Marfa Light but I can't be sure.
The car lights all appear in one small area where highway 67 is visible from the viewing area, the Marfa Lights appear all over the place...sometimes even up in the air. Also, if you look at the lights through a telescope (which they have set up at the viewing area) you can see that the cars all have two headlights just like they normally would. The Marfa Lights just look like round balls of light.
Post by Morgan Sierra on Aug 24, 2011 14:23:04 GMT -6
I am still investigating the dirt circles that appeared back in Goldthwaite, Texas way back in March of this year. In case you forgot what they look like here they are.
The "official" explanation given for these by MUFON STAR Team investigator Theresa Turner is that they were "tire tracks" made by somebody who went "mudden" in their big truck.
As you all know I have never agreed with that explanation and I pretty much proved that it was wrong by dissecting it piece by piece and showing why the tire track theory did not match the evidence. Things like the track width, turning radius, tread width, the diameter of the circle and the distance between the two tracks just does not match up to any street driven vehicles. Also the absence of any tracks leading to or away from the circle as well as the perfect design of the circle lead me to conclude that those circles were not made by tire tracks.
Not one to leave well enough alone and always looking for an opportunity to have some fun I decided to conduct a little experiment. Here are the results...
The circles in the above photo are tire tracks made by a pickup with a lunatic behind the wheel. the lunatic (who shall remain nameless : was spinning the truck around in circles in a gravel parking lot attempting to make a perfect circle. After several tries I (I mean he) succeeded.
As you can see the tracks in the photo are about as close to being circular as any spinning vehicle is going to get. You can also see that they do not look at all like the photos taken in Goldthwaite. In my photo there are tracks leading both to and away from the circle just like I suggested there would be. They also overlap one another.
The dimensions of my circle measured barely over 17 feet for the inner circle and right at 19 feet for the outer circle. There was only 6 inches separating the inner circle from the outer one. That in no way even comes close to the whopping measurements of the Goldthwaite circles. this once again confirms my initial suspicions that the Goldthwaite circles are not "tire tracks."
So what are they? I still don't know because I never got to view the circles in person. According to Ms. Turner the original witness did not wish to continue cooperating with the investigation. That doesn't mean I am not going to investigate it though.
I recently made another interesting discovery. It is completely circumstantial at present and does not prove anything but it is still interesting.
The original report was made by the woman who owned a ranch in Goldthwaite, yet she stated that she did not live on that property. The report was investigated by MUFON investigator Theresa Turner, who lives in Kempner, Texas. Interestingly enough Ms. Turner also just happens to own a ranch in none other than...Goldthwaite, Texas. Coincidence?
Now I am not saying that it is the same ranch, and I am not suggesting that Theresa Turner is the same woman who made the initial report, but it is interesting, and it is definitely something I am going to look into in the future. Stay tuned for more updates.
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When people think of squirrels they probably imagine a bunch of furry little nut-crunching critters that scamper up and down trees gathering acorns, berries and seeds and storing them away for the winter. They probably do not picture some vicious carnivore with blood dripping from its fangs as it ravenously feasts on a fresh kill. This last image, however, is exactly what a friend of mine encountered while on a recent trip to San Antonio.
John Bednarczyk was wondering peacefully among the live oaks and elms surrounding the Alamo when he spied a gruesome sight. High up in the branches of a nearby tree was a squirrel--one of those furry little nut-crunchers--that was munching on a freshly killed bird. He could not believe his eyes.
The feathers were flying as this furry little fiend happily covered himself with guts and gore. Well, that may be a slight exaggeration since the squirrel was actually very tidy about his meal, but it was still a shock to see. Who ever heard of a meat-eating squirrel?
He was so surprised that he called me on the phone to tell me about it. He also snapped a few pictures which I asked him to forward to me because I had never heard of a carnivorous squirrel either.
After doing a little research I found out that squirrels actually do sometimes eat meat. According to Wikipedia squirrels belong to a family of rodents that include chipmunks, marmot and prairie dogs. They are also closely related to beaver and dormice.
Most rodents are opportunistic scavengers that eat whatever food they are able to get their paws on. Squirrels cannot digest cellulose so the foods they eat must be rich in protein, carbohydrates and fats. Nuts and seeds make up the bulk of their diet but they also feed on fruits, fungi, insects, eggs, and in some cases, small animals.
Scientists have done studies where they examined the stomach contents of a number of dead squirrels and found that around 10% had the remains of some type of vertebrate creatures in their stomachs. Lizards, snakes, smaller mammals and birds were predominant, although one adult squirrel was actually found to have killed and eaten a baby squirrel.
This does not mean that the furry little critters are vicious blood-thirsty predators. They probably just eat eat whatever happens to be available. When food is plentiful nuts and acorns are much easier to gather than a living animal which must be stalked and killed. When faced with hunger, however, the squirrel is capable of killing and eating whatever is necessary for survival, including members of its own kind.
This puts a big red stain on the squirrel's cute, furry little image. I had no idea squirrels were meat-eaters. From now on whenever I go for a walk in the woods I am going to be glancing nervously up in the trees wondering if I'm going to be attacked. I can't think of anything that would be much worse than being eaten by a nut-cruncher!
Animals seem to be acting strange to me. Now the insects I wanted to say My sister had a praying mantis at her humming bird feeder this week. I knew I hated these insects. Anyway a humming bird arrives at the feeder and this praying mantis bits onto to the bird and kills it somehow. Some one there at her house visiting at the time tape it or took a photo of this whole ugly scene. I told her yesterday I did not care to see it. She said they put it on facebook.
In order to put it here I will have to find out who first, it could of been her daughter my niece..
I know that some spiders kill birds but spiders usually have great big huge fangs to chomp with. I don't know how big a praying mantis's chompers are but I guess if they can kill other large insects then they could probably kill a hummingbird. That is not cool though. Stupid bugs should stick to killing other stupid bugs, not birds.
Post by skywalker on Sept 18, 2011 18:18:23 GMT -6
I just found this report on MUFON's Past 20 Reports list. It sounds kind of similar to what I witnessed in Deming, New Mexico when I was out there last month, except the one I saw was not shaped like a balloon like this guy claimed. The rest of the details were similar though. I wonder if there are any kind of balloon projects going on out there right now?
Case Number: 31875 Log Number: US-09182011-0005 Submitted Date: 2011-09-18 09:29 GMT Event Date: 2011-09-17 00:00 GMT Status: Assigned City: Las Cruces Region: New Mexico Country: US Longitude: -106.7636538 Latitude: 32.3199396 Shape: Cone Duration: 00:30:00 Distance: Over one mile Description: While taking a walk at sunset I noticed a very bright starlike object in the northern sky, far enough away that it was obscured by the few clouds that passed in front of it. I thought it might be a star but it was still too light out for any stars to appear. I returned home and got my binoculars and viewed the object which was clearly the shape of a hot air balloon (or triangle or heart). It appeared to be stationary and very far away. I then looked at it through a telescope and affirmed that it was reflecting the light of the sun. My husband joined me and as we looked at it through telescope and binoculars, it slowly changed color to reflect the setting sun - from bright silver to orange to deep red. It also appeared to move very slowly toward the west, as a star or planet would do. We both think it was some sort of weather balloon or other reflective device of terrestrial origin, but it was puzzling nevertheless, so I thought I would report it.
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Post by skywalker on Sept 18, 2011 18:41:07 GMT -6
There is a Scientific Balloon Flight Facility in Fort Sumner, New Mexico that recently launched a couple of high altitude balloons called HASP, or High Altitude Student Platform. They look just like large balloons with scientific instruments suspended underneath. Here is a photo of one they launched back in 2009.
The most recent launches that they have on record were for August 31 and September 8. Neither of those launches could account for the thing that I saw because my sighting was earlier than that. The HASP balloons only stay up for about 15 hours or so also. It is possible they could have launched another one that would account for the most recent sighting in Las Cruces but if so they have not posted anything about it yet. I will check back again later.
The thing that I saw near Deming did have a normal balloon shape to it either. I still don't know what that thing was.
This is a photo that Lois' brother took many years ago. He said that he saw a metallic UFO in it but was in a hurry to take the picture and did not get a very good shot of it. The bright light is a reflection of light shining on the original photo when Shami took a picture of it. It is actually a photo of a photo.
Sky.. It is the two lights on the top edge of photo on left side.. it is almost cut out of the photo... It touches the tree tops but not really, on my take it us in front of the tree, but these lights are definitely behind the tree sticks in original..
When I took it my son said how did that happen so I checked the photo on his wall and they are behind the tree top. My brother snapped it before he got his camera up high enough, but the lights between them he said was metallic and a rim on the outer edge of the two glows were curved like a disc..
He took this way back in 1985.. My son wanted a copy so he gave him this one blown up.. from the orighinal the camera took.. It streaked away before he got another shot.. This should be put over on swamprats post of.. The Bloomington Lake sighting a few weeks ago as it is the same lake..
I was living next to the park in both instances.. I got to find the ones he took in Mo. of the beams coming down in front of him as he walked the blacktop road from town to his home.. It is amazing, but I do not know who has them since he passed a year ago.. He confided in me as he knew what I had experienced, the rest of the family he never talked about it much.. He never left his home with out his camera.. He never had children. we were his family.. He spent a lot of time outdoors even in winter . Deer hunting was one of his favorites.
.Rock hunting.. outer space, I could go on forever. He painted Portraits of people. His Indian portraits were my favorites.. He could play the Guitar as good as anyone.. He had many hobbies.. Just trying give a gleamce of the man who took this photo.. He was the youngest of 11 and the first to leave us..
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