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Post by randy on Apr 1, 2012 0:10:40 GMT -6
As a young man I was interested in trying out my ability to control a persons actions by telepathy at long range. Being in Novato Calif I tried to mentally contact a friend and take over the actions of the friend at work in Reno Nevada. Laying down on my bed I commanded the person leave work walk out into the parking lot lay down and go to sleep. I chose this person because it was the only person I knew that I knew exactly where they were at that exact time. I could focus exactly on that person instead casting a wide field so to speak. A few weeks later i was surprized to hear that the person was found passed out in the parking lot at work just like I had commanded. This event caused harm to the person involved in that they had several medical tests run to try to find the cause of the alleged seizure they had. The fact that things had worked made me realize the pandoras box I had opened. Being human I could easily slip into the dark side of things with such ability. I resolved that I would no longer try such things while I still had control of my ability to resist the temptations involved. later in life while camping in the mojave desert in a sand storm i could not sleep so I passed the time by trying to lift a picture off the wall in my room at Novato Calif. I wanted to lfit it up off the hook that it hung on and then drop it on the floor. Since the wire on the back of the picture would be unbroken I would know that it lifted off the hook. When I got home the picture had indeed come off the wall and landed on the floor with the wire unbroken. My mother said that she had heard a rattling racket come from my room and then a crash when the picture hit the floor. An interesting experiment. As an interesting side issue there is in Petaluma Calif 15 miles north of Novato an institute devoted to world wide mental communication and precognition. the something institute. the name evades me at this writting but it is interesting such an institute exists just 15 miles north of the grey base that I have talked about. Why so close to the greys. Is it involved with the base in some manner. It was on one of the TV news shows a couple of years ago. It may be the Niatic institute Is it recruiting telepaths for the greys?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2012 13:29:54 GMT -6
I have found I can influence others some distance away and on one occasion I've coerced someone to call me. I never have tried to actually inflict my will on someone..it just doesn't seem right to me to even try that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 0:21:56 GMT -6
I have found I can influence others some distance away and on one occasion I've coerced someone to call me. I never have tried to actually inflict my will on someone..it just doesn't seem right to me to even try that. I know you can... because I sensed you thinking about me a few days ago Jo. ~hugz~
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 10:39:27 GMT -6
Humanity does not have the discipline or decent motives to use telepathy (in my opinion). For most of the people residing on this planet it would be intrusive or a weapon or at the very least eavesdropping. Wives would be using it to see if their husbands were cheating..the military would use it to control an enemy..to know their position..sex offenders would use it to stalk victims and to mislead and there would always be those who can and those who can't. Maybe it works for very advanced races but we're still a murderous lot. I use it as a mood thermometer on the people around me so that I can weigh my words or actions around them. If I know they're upset today, I'm smart not to add to it...in other words. But..even that is dishonest to a point. My husband is bi-polar. Naturally I didn't know that when I married him..I saw a hard working individual who would help to raise my fatherless sons. We always get kicked when we do things for the wrong reasons..'sigh'. He was in one of his good periods and marrying for love might have been the better idea LOL. Anyway..I used what I could sense to level his moods and I taught my children to do the same. Divorce might have been the smart solution but I found in this situation a way to make my children pull together and be closer. We had to support us. We all worked to keep his moods even and level and the result was someone who had about all he needed without lifting a finger to have it. We worked..we supported we took care of the bills. As a result..he never had the chance to learn to overcome or push past limitations. I don't know that he would have but once I figured out what I had done, it was too late. What I had in the end was 3 of the closest and most hard working kids anywhere who will never marry or have children and one...very spoiled and sullen 'step-child' who won't even go to a doctor when he's sick..I have to wait until he's too sick to protest. I was young and stupid and I ruined his life because I could manipulate and 'push'. We might be able to do it..but we don't have the right to.
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Post by Steve on Apr 2, 2012 11:30:48 GMT -6
I do not think 'humanity' is ready for 'telepathy' either, or however we wish to characterize whatever it maybe. If all of humanity possessed telepathy as part of their normal biology - then the issues you raise Jo would be mute since it would be a two way street for everyone. Telepathy would change the entire structure of our world. If limited to a few, then there is a problem. Good for you to stick with a marrage with someone diagnosed 'bi-polar'. There are many. Bi-polar's go through such sweeping mood changes - and they are often manipulative. If you can read through that and he can moderate the swings - wonderful. It might indicate to me a little from your posts how often you are so very observant and perhaps suspicious. It is just perhaps one of your natural mechanisms. You think so perhaps? I had a cousin like that. Hopefully a telepathic being or society can turn down the volume din - and confine their imputs and outputs. Steve
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 11:38:41 GMT -6
Yes..exactly. I do think that one of the good things about humanity IS it's individuality. If I want to go to a movie with A..that's who I want to be with at the time, not the whole darned planet. Generalization of course..but I still like the idea of privacy and personal space.
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Post by paulette on Apr 2, 2012 12:12:35 GMT -6
Jokelly. Wow! What a powerful post yours was. I sense that you are in the process of forgiving yourself for choices you made - to stay, to keep the situation tolerable for you and your children. I have had to do similiar personal work. I just want to remind you - when one has children and no way to care for them AND to work fulltime (and even then it may not be enough) - one does what one has to do. Women always have struck bargains to keep their children fed and housed. Its why I get INCENSED in reading about "co-dependent" relationships - that the woman who stays with a man who has a problem/addiction is as culpable as he is. PL EASE! I had an ADHD daughter who was not safe in minimal care (and also was highly allergic to bee stings and I don't know how many times I picked her up from some day camp and was told - oh she got stung but it didn't seem to bother her so we didn't call you. And I KNEW that the little sting would swell to the knee because she hadn't gotten antihistimine in time. And ALL OF US would be awake that night.) So as much as one woman can know another woman's life - I know.
I also agree with you about affecting others. Telepathy and magic blend in that both propose that an event or person can be influenced from a distance. The Wiccan creed is: "In that you harm none; do what you will." But that's a big one to sort out. Also telepathy "ties" one to the effect one is attempting. This might only operate at the Kharmic level but think about this example: Let's say a woman wants a man to be in her life. It hasn't happened "naturally" so she tries to tweak it. She thinks about him, maybe lights a candle, maybe does other things to focus her will (that is what magic is - focusing one's will power). So seemingly innoculously, they meet. And maybe have a relationship. Later it becomes apparent - this is NOT the one. But now she's in love with him. (whatever that means). Maybe there are children. But by selecting for someone outside of her circle she has excluded the quiet man who might have been happy to father and love children and support them good heartedly. Time has passed. The quiet man meanwhile married someone else and is dancing at his daughter's weddings - happily.
I agree totally - some of us have these skills some do not. Ethics get particularly complex if you do have them. Most of us (especially when young) do not have well developed ethics. The government doesn't have any. Nor does big business.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 17:27:31 GMT -6
You're right Pauline..we do what we have to do and base our choices accordingly. And we just don't know how the cycle spins..it might be that I was 'designed' to come along and do exactly as I did..and I consider that since I had to live with the monster I created I served my sentence..(how self serving that does sound) ;D We're not mature enough as a race to have quite that much power I think as we still have problems being responsible for our actions. I know so many people who blame their misfortunes on everyone else but at the doorstep where it truly does lay. We're having a discussion about it so we must be growing into it
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Post by lois on Apr 2, 2012 22:44:29 GMT -6
I really don't believe we have this unbelievable power of mind. But maybe between love ones it does exist to a point. As far as being in a crowd of people and knowing what they were all thinking would be the craziest thing that ever happen to mankind. Even worse than meeting aliens.
But I do know the experiences I had in my teens was real with this altered state of mind from who knows where. And I do feel them if a ufo is near me. Go figure.
That is not the same thing, but in 89 I did hear it in my head Lois go to the west window.. and they were there in a ship.
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Post by plutronus on Apr 3, 2012 2:22:58 GMT -6
I have found I can influence others some distance away and on one occasion I've coerced someone to call me. I never have tried to actually inflict my will on someone..it just doesn't seem right to me to even try that. :-/ Long Range Telepathy....Hah hah hah! Telepathy is not range-power-limited. All telepathy is 'long-range', there's no such thing as short range telepathy. Where is God Not?
JoKelly,
>on one occasion I've coerced someone to call me
Randy claimed he hurt a friend just to test his powers, whereas, urging a friend to make a phone call, while that too, is considered impositional in Mystical doctrine, the action does not carry the same Kharmic consequences. But remember, "what ye sow, ye shall reap", the rule of thumb is thrice-fold reflection.
>it just doesn't seem right to me to even try that.
Anything impositional (created in consciousness) generates negative Kharma which connotes samskaric 'recordings' and are stored in the Akasha, or from the Qabalistic perspective, it is MZLa (Hbr) stored as 'crystallization' in the Sephira of those stations of consciousness that are improperly operating. These crystallization are like shadows of improperly formed worlds that solidify with each cycle of qlifah. When vibratory conditions resonate with the qlifah, (payback time) the Tree-Of-Life (time-line generator) recreates the reality that is stored in the Sephira, consciousness lives the stored experience. It is how we learn, through our own mistakes. Hitler did not escape by killing himself, he's probably already re-incarnated back into Hitler Germany as a Jew.
Re; psi-astral contacts...
I find that most psi-intuitives, when we become aware of one and another, can't help but to think about each other, for most of us its just how we say 'hello'. And so long as we just think about one and another, its probably ok, as simply 'tuning-in' to the 'party-line' so-to-speak is a very Human psi-trait. Plus, also, if one is conscious to such an extent, I've always found that those who are not interested to participate in the party-line, generally have the door-shut, with a little metaphorical sign hung on it that imparts something like, "Please, knock first", or "Not Interested Go away!" or more directly, "Do Not Disturb!", hee hee hee, but the ones who are really in hiding (I was for a time), have a big silver ball around themselves. The shinier, the better it works. In any case, its always considered polite to ask first, if its a yay, ok, if not, go away.
I see the sparkles.
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Post by paulette on Apr 3, 2012 9:23:25 GMT -6
I really don't believe we have this unbelievable power of mind. But maybe between love ones it does exist to a point. As far as being in a crowd of people and knowing what they were all thinking would be the craziest thing that ever happen to mankind. Even worse than meeting aliens. But I do know the experiences I had in my teens was real with this altered state of mind from who knows where. And I do feel them if a ufo is near me. Go figure. That is not the same thing, but in 89 I did hear it in my head Lois go to the west window.. and they were there in a ship. Why is it not the same thing? Does it trouble you that people who don't love you can use wordless communication? Especially beings who aren't "us"? My psi contact the night of the visitation was so strong it drove me to my knees. I thought there was someone on the second story porch, feet away. Someone else checked! (They might have had less loud contact). I apologized for not being able to stay present (in my mind) and simply stated that I was so afraid I thought I would die. That's when my vision faded from the outside in and I slept dreamlessly until late the next morning. Never mind the adrenalin coursing through my system. I was out. We were all out. I know that I have untrained empathic and psi gifts and I have lived long enough to know that other people who have them as well are not necessarily "good for me to know." They are, however, always INTERESTING to know, if only briefly. It is an intimacy that is stronger than other bonds that we humans can form. And when that person moves on, gets bored, has other things to do, it can be particularly hurtful. But if you could fly - would you? Even if it was dangerous at times?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 16:03:10 GMT -6
Because of the encounter which I experienced I think I can safely assume that "they" have the means to not only cross the lines of communication among other beings,,, they also can turn off telepathic communication with us and "speak" among themselves without us "hearing" them . For this reason I believe they also can communicate either in private or openly among themselves using this method,,, but that part is speculative. The reason I make this claim is because when it was telepathically "speaking" to me I plainly heard it. When they communicated among themselves I couldn't hear what they were saying. This ability Imo is mind blowing,,,,,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 19:56:44 GMT -6
Because of the encounter which I experienced I think I can safely assume that "they" have the means to not only cross the lines of communication among other beings,,, they also can turn off telepathic communication with us and "speak" among themselves without us "hearing" them . For this reason I believe they also can communicate either in private or openly among themselves using this method,,, but that part is speculative. The reason I make this claim is because when it was telepathically "speaking" to me I plainly heard it. When they communicated among themselves I couldn't hear what they were saying. This ability Imo is mind blowing,,,,, ~nods~ Same here. I witnessed the same thing. I didn't "hear" what they were saying among themselves, but when the one came over to me and touched my forehead THEN I "heard" it...
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Post by paulette on Apr 3, 2012 21:00:53 GMT -6
I'm sure you are right about them being able to communicate to each other without us "hearing" them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 11:37:39 GMT -6
I do not think we have the mental sophistication to 'hear' them speak among themselves. I think they adapt to speak 'at' us and influence our thoughts on a much lower band than the one they use to communicate. If we had those who had telepathy on that level..would they be running around loose or would the military have them cornered in a dark closet somewhere? I'm guessing on the dark closet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 13:35:29 GMT -6
I do not think we have the mental sophistication to 'hear' them speak among themselves. I think they adapt to speak 'at' us and influence our thoughts on a much lower band than the one they use to communicate. If we had those who had telepathy on that level..would they be running around loose or would the military have them cornered in a dark closet somewhere? I'm guessing on the dark closet. The government has lots of dark closets...
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Post by randy on Apr 17, 2012 23:55:22 GMT -6
While living with my father on a ranch the dogs got into a really bad fight and to break it up my father was going to shot one that I liked. Some how I slipped into survival mode for want of a better way to state it. I focused on suppressing the primer on the bullet he was using and the gun clicked harmlessly. For one fraction of a second it worked for me. My father looked shocked and said "How did you do that?" i said "Idont know" and he said "There are alot of things that you dont realize you can do" Which I thought was odd to say. On retesting the bullet worked fine. the quick surge of power that I felt in the incident was for real and there. I cant explain how or why it worked but it did. As a kid I was standing under a tall old tree during a stong wind and suddenly I got scared and ran away and as suddenly the fear left me and then a huge branch broke off the tree and landed where I had been standing. had I been standing there I could have killed me. How would I know to be afraid like that? Still puzzles me
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Post by charles on Apr 18, 2012 15:33:57 GMT -6
Hi all! Randy - brilliant thread you've started here mate ! Having read the posts so far I am quite interested in the amount of psychic/telepathic abilities described (and also how difficult some of the personal comments made were to make). I personally feel that we all have inherent abilities to project or receive psychic/telepathic energy. Whether we have the ability to tap into this or not is another matter entirely. I know I have mentioned previously that my mother has on a couple of occasions had what I would class as pre-cognisance within a dream. I think that intuitive abilities are the early starting point for unlocking these kind of more powerful abilities. We all to some degree can pick up on those that we either love or have an affinity for/toward. I have a friend who lives quite a bit away from me and we're in touch with each other once or twice a month or so. If either of us is having a stressful time or the muck's hitting a whole bank of fans the other will pick that time to say "hi, what's up mate? Talk if you need!" before knowing for sure that something's up! I do most certainly believe though that we have a psychic/telepathic connection with those we love. On a number of times I've picked up the phone to ring somebody only to pick up the handset and for them to say hello to me (and it's neither rung my end or given them a ringing tone!). There have been times when my mood has suddenly dropped and I know deep down something unfortunate somewhere has happened - I can never seem to find out specifically what, but I just 'know' ! Right, my intuitive powers now tell me the kids are getting rowdy & it's nearly beddy-byes time (for me - the heck with them ;D ;D !!), so I may be back later, maybe not! TTFN! Take care,seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 16:54:34 GMT -6
I have a feeling Charles that the connection is strongest with those we love and then maybe those we are to 'help' in some way. I'm a big believer in things not happening by chance and that God (insert favorite name here) does have and use people here to help others along their path. Not to get into religious dogma ..but if you happened to believe in reincarnation..maybe those helpers would be 'older' hands and maybe their psychic gifts would be a bit more advanced. ;D Plutronus..excellent points and a good reminder that some things come with a price albeit a karmic one. I'm guessing, overall, that any government using psychic gifts wouldn't think karmic paybacks of any significance So I hope the karmic loop would spread a bit to include them ;D
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 18, 2012 18:32:07 GMT -6
Here's a great docu. that explains the science behind telepathy . It has been tested and proven in a scientific manner. Really informative, I actually just used this as part of our physics lesson in school today...
Quantum Communication;
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Post by charles on Apr 19, 2012 3:09:42 GMT -6
Hi all! Jo - your replies are so totally the same as in my mind-set - but that I expect is a by-product of our being here on this forum !! I do believe that there are (and I understand your not getting into the religion bit and what I'm about to say is just as an example I think we can all relate to !) guardian angels (yep, definitely angels, not angles ;D ;D !!) looking out for us all. It is these that I see as being the more psychically/telepathically advanced 'elders' that help & guide us. Yes, there is no coincidence as everything does happen for a reason. The next step after our action is the path we have chosen with the given information to make the action - this is pre-determined by our action (the tried & trusted old behavioural model of ABC - Antecedent, Behaviour, Consequence !). To me, we have freedom of choice within the bounds of informed choice - whether the informed choice is internally generated with our learnt knowledge & understanding of the likely consequences of our action (if I knock my mug of tea into my lap, the air will turn blue & bits of me will turn into bright reddy/pinkish burn marks ;D ;D !!). Then there is the informed choice where externally we are given sets of information. As an example, every so often when we read openly honest , frank & forthright explanations of that which people wish to do for us both individually and collectively ;D ;D , we make a conscious decision that lies parallel to our conscience. We put an 'X' on a piece of paper next to a politician's name, then put the paper in the ballot box ;D ;D! Okay, as for the intuition - I posted that at 22:33 BST (British Summer Time) and the littlest terror didn't settle down until about 00:30! He then wonders why he's so darn tired this morning ;D ;D ;D !! But certainly my professional background does help in that I see some things coming way before my wife does - usually some of the more aggressive behaviours. Sometimes it's totally undefinable what has triggered the intuitive response, but it's always spot on (and I must say, unfortunately !) But hey-ho, keep smiling !!! Right, housework beckons ! Back later on ;D ;D ! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 11:42:01 GMT -6
What a good man..when you're done there..I have these windows..justtttttt beyond my reach?? Charles there is no better advocate for angels than I am..I talk with them..cry with them (and at them) and work with them almost daily. On those days when the traffic is slow between this realm and that..or they're off busy painting rainbows somewhere I feel so lonely..then I realize..oops..they're not too busy..the lines aren't busy..it's me being overly grounded. We have to find the balance between the earthly and the spiritual or we're at odds with ourselves. And boy is it hard to let go of the control we've established and run our lives with. Without seeing with the right eyes and hearing with the right ears..all we hear and see is earth static. Don't misread me anyone..you are all here walking that balance or you would not be here. It's not in saying 'I believe in angels or I believe in God..it is in saying..I open my eyes and look at all of this universal mystery..I see what others don't. I believe! In UFO's in telepathy in fairies or elves or water buffalo with wings..its being open to more..and there IS so much more. Jo hops down off the rocking bandwagon..dusting off a spot for the next speaker. Have a brilliant day..
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Post by charles on Apr 19, 2012 15:31:17 GMT -6
Hi all!! Jo - I deplore cleaning windows - usually because they look all nice and sparkly when I've done them . Then Lorna gets home - "you've missed this bit here, that bit there and just in that corner....! The sun is sooooooooooo naughty in the way it shines when I clean them! I see absolutely no marks whatsoever & go over it several times - smear free! She gets in - the sun picks out whacking great huge smears ;D ;D ;D !!! I think the balance we all live with is not always recognised by some people and they can tend to feel life is too much of a struggle to carry on. They look at life in the way of the 'footsteps in the sand' poem and don't realise that when only one set of steps was seen, it was their guide carrying them, not leaving them to cope alone. I must admit, you have said something recently about the drawing together of like minded people here and I have to say it's great to be here to have these discussions (and the happenstance - bob Ferry's song "Let's Stick Together" has just come on - must be coincidence for it to come on & for me to smile ;D ;D !!) and hopefully learn off each other - even if it's only to respect others differences! Right, my brain feels frazzled (seems to be getting frazzled quicker these days !), so I'll say night-night for tonight! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 21:02:51 GMT -6
'sigh' there go my windows..and I'm not even a complainer You're right Charles..not too many recognize that there is a serious balance hard at work in our universe. A balance of what is good and bad..the spiritual and the earthly..etc. Tip it one way or the t'other..then we get out of kilter...people use terms like manic depressive or bi polar or others and out come the pharmaceuticals..and into the vegetative state.. ok that was an over dramatization but..the balance is very real and necessary I think it's so important for us to stay positive as much as possible because it truly is a universe of attraction (imo)
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Post by CitizenK on Apr 20, 2012 20:39:38 GMT -6
[shakes head in agreement to Jo and Charles] It's truly good to be among like minded folks!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 4:13:29 GMT -6
Its nice to find people who..even if they don't quite think the same..still listen and share and enjoy. I wish the world were more so
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Post by charles on Apr 21, 2012 15:24:19 GMT -6
Hi all! K - It sure is !! Jo - I could not agree more ! Unfortunately some people just don't know how to agree to disagree - no body else's opinion is right but theirs! I have no problem with that - just don't ram it down my throat ;D ;D ;D !! The thing that I like with this forum is that we are here because we are of like minds and at the end of the day we want some kind of answer or understanding of things in whatever way we personally find able to deal with or understand . Okay, I'm probably rambling now so I should pop off (might be back later!) ! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by randy on May 2, 2012 0:01:42 GMT -6
My sister on a trip to Norway visited a centuries old church and while there had a small boy sit next to her dressed in period costume. the boy smiled at my sister and she tried to talk to him but he did not understand her. My sisters husband who went to school in Norway was not around to translate. As my sister talked to the boy she noticed people were looking oddly at her and finally realized the other people could not see the boy she was talking to. She said good bye to the boy and left. Later in life with her first grandson as a 3 yr old she visited an old mansion on tour and noticed the boy giggle and then walk over to the opposite wall press on a panel and it opened up to a hidden recess in the wall. flustered my sister grabbed the boy and hoped no one noticed. how the boy knew to go to the panel and open it she did not figure out. She never thought to look in the recess to see if anything was hidden there. While out at point reyes sea shore I had the idea of probing a sea cliff with my mind to find a fossil sharks tooth. I tried to feel it in the rock going to an area I had some feeling for i loosened the rock but left it in place. A friend who was there with me picked up the loose rock and turned it over and there was a huge fossil sharks tooth. I groaned. didnt have faith in myself I could feel the tooth in the rock. Finally I have found that it is possible when really ticked off about something concentrate the energy and that is a very tempting thing to use at times. the dark side is strongly tempting. Post script as a young man I was introduced to a friend of a friend and looking at him was struck with the idea he would be dead in a week. In a week he dropped dead at work. I knew just looking at him it was obvious
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2012 23:18:07 GMT -6
It's a very mysterious world we live in
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