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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2011 21:37:29 GMT -6
I seen this witness tell his story quite awhile back, but now there is a newer interview... This video always made me feel weird . I believe it may be real.. what kind of tiny creature is this if from a ufo landing..?? ;D Animal? I don't think so.. The old video showed much more than this one, I showed the aliens leaving through an Iron fence..
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2011 21:50:09 GMT -6
The could not duplicate it.. I will see if I can find more on the stick aliens.. This had me thinking for months when it first was shown to the public. Anyone can make a video look like a true incident. It does not mean that is how it was done.. Jamie even interviewed this witness once. Was no true outcome to it either.
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2011 21:59:13 GMT -6
Some one has been trying to analyze this video..
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2011 22:03:49 GMT -6
I did see a round headlike top on it and two black eyes where eyes should be but are they.. The witnesses surveillance camera took this shot of the alien.. if alien.
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Post by auntym on Jan 14, 2011 22:17:30 GMT -6
Does it look like an animal to you people here on the forum.. any suggestions on what it may be? There was two of them in the original video. I don't understand this.. Lois shamira this video always gave me the creeps, goosebumps popping up on my arms.... .... i think its real too....
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Post by lois on Jan 14, 2011 22:45:00 GMT -6
Auntym..Can you imagine if true these tiny creatures build crafts which zoom from galaxy to galaxy.. hard to swallow..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 4:15:18 GMT -6
Creepy... o.O
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Post by halfsack13 on Jan 15, 2011 8:45:47 GMT -6
its a very creepy video. on the tv show that this clip is from, they tried to replicate the original video like 3 different times and never even came close
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Post by paulette on Jan 15, 2011 11:14:44 GMT -6
Something weird about the gait. In embossed version - thin someone or thing with a cane? "Cape" is a long bag? Donno. After looking at things on Utube (including how to make a believable UFO movie) I don't "believe" visuals anymore. Not to say that they aren't interesting. But fabrication happens. I always wanted to read a statement by someone who spends huge amounts of time, say, making crops circles. I have a cartoon in head, if anyone wants to draw it go ahead: two guys with boards and string out in a wheat field. Dialogue, "Boy, this will fool them." Overhead, silent UFO observing. In next field, bigger better circle....
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 16:07:42 GMT -6
Attack of the stick-figure aliens March 18th, 2009 by Mori
Whitley Strieber called attention to two videos of “identical and extremely bizarre living forms have emerged from two different countries. Both show odd ‘stick figures’ that look nothing like any ‘alien video’ ever made. One was taken in Fresno, California [above] and the other in Santa Rosa de Quives near Lima, Peru [below].”
To Strieber, “the extremely bizarre nature of the figures and the way they move are so strange, and so completely unlike anything that has ever been offered before as “alien video,” the suggestion is strong that these are real images of unknown bipedal creatures, whose body morphology is so radically different from what has evolved on earth that the conclusion is almost inescapable that they are aliens”.
He does suggest, however, that they could be digital hoaxes. Greg Bishop at UFOMystic also suggests so. Keep reading for our ordinary investigations, with more stick figure aliens and some evidence to solve at least some of them.
Stick figure invasion
The video above, titled “Alien Footage – Mexican Zoo” also shows an “anomaly” in the lower part of the image. But it’s also more clearly realized as an “out of focus stem of a plant going from side to side in the wind”, as someone already pointed in the comments. It didn’t stop it from getting nearly a million viewers.
We must be open-minded and not limit ourselves to aliens. There are also ghosts, such as the one in the video below, with over 1,500,000 viewers:
Which is actually just water (or dirt) in the windshield. You may have found those two very unremarkable, despite the fact they impressed many. The “Quives Alien”, as it’s being promoted, seems more puzzling. Indeed, it is, because it combines both effects. The Quives Alien video
I tried to stabilize the Peruvian video, but since all I had to start with was the low quality Youtube versions which were in turn the video of a TV screen (hence the flickering), the end result was not that much better.
From the slightly stabilized version above, though, you can realize some things, and the important one is that during the time the “alien” seems to be moving, the camera shakes a lot. Remember that fact. Another important thing to note is that the “alien” is right there, apparently frozen, some moments before it starts moving. We will get back to it.
Now, to the red-herring. There seems to be something like a string in the upper left part of the video. It even seems like it’s being pulled right before the “alien” starts moving. See a clip here. Was the alien just something attached to a string that was being pulled by the cameraman? That’s what I initially thought.
I was wrong.
See this second stabilized version:
Right in the beginning you can see that the “string” is actually part of a thin twig near the camera. And then, Mexican researcher Luis Ruiz Noguez pointed to me that the alien itself is in fact just part of a plant that is near the camera. The apparent motion is due to parallax.
If you watch the video again with this in mind, you may realize how all the movements of the alien are due to the movement of the camera, and that’s why the camera shakes a lot when the alien is moving: the cameraman (not the alien) is walking.
Pay attention as to how the alien goes up when the background goes down. Once you realize the thing is actually near the camera, not behind the man, just like the windshield “ghost” it all makes sense. That’s perspective. The “Quives alien” is just part of a bush.
Of course, you may have also noted that at some point, the man in white seems to get in front of the alien/plant. That’s probably due to the fact the man is wearing a bright garment and the thin plant does not have sufficient contrast to be seen in the terrible quality video. That is, the man was actually behind the plant, but this cannot be seen in the video. Alas, I don’t think we will be seeing the original video anytime soon to see if there’s not even a hint of the plant in front of the man.
I do agree with Noguez, nevertheless, and think the Quives “alien” is a combination of the two effects in the videos we have seen before: a plant near the camera (“Mexican zoo alien”) and parallax giving the appearance of motion (“Ghost crossing the road”). It was a plant.
Which brings us to the Fresno video. The Fresno aliens
Like the Quives video, we are only seeing these videos on Youtube, and they are videos of videos. That’s not good. Above, another video of a video of the Fresno footage. The man promoting it is Victor Camacho, a paranormal radio host based in California. His website promotes and sells everything, from abductions to ghosts. That’s also not that good. Camacho himself mentions that many question the video as a hoax. That’s not good at all.
It’s all circumstantial, and I can’t unfortunately present anything besides the obvious impression that the aliens could be reproduced by simply pulling pieces of cloth on a string, showing some pendular motion. But would these apparent strings and movements be red-herrings like the Quives video? Could these videos be honest mistakes? Could they even be real?
I doubt it, but then, I’m very skeptical of those things. I surely hope the Fresno video is openly released and properly analyzed. Camacho mentions Maccabee at some point.
If there’s one thing I hope to have showed with these ordinary investigations, though, is that all these “stick figures” are not due to the same phenomenon or cause.
One was just a plant stem, the other water in the windshield. Another was very probably just a plant filmed by someone walking with a poor quality camera. And the final one may be a crude hoax.
Grouping them all together may seem natural or even reasonable, but as enthusiasts of the paranormal should know, appearances can be deceiving. There’s no invasion of stick figure aliens, just the interpretation of several different videos with different explanations as such.
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UPDATE: Some readers are having trouble with the suggestion of parallax in the Quives video, so I created this image to illustrate the scene:
3dquives
Notice how the bush and a taller and prominent twig that is interpreted as the “Alien” are near the camera (which is upfront). Now, to understand how parallax can create the illusion of apparent movement, you can try the following simple experiment (do it alone otherwise you will look weird):
Raise the index fingers of both hands vertically, then close one of the eyes and align your index fingers in a way that one is exactly in front of the other, covering it. Now, without moving your hand, move your head to the left instead. You will see the nearer finger moving right.
That’s what happens in the Quives video, while the camera moves to the left and the bush seems to be moving right. The difference is that while the camera moves to the left it also changes the direction to which it’s pointing, framing that very same bush.
The short clip below is another example of parallax (“If the mountain will not come to Mohammed, Mohammed will run like hell and will make them move by parallax”).
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 16:19:35 GMT -6
Two of the above videos were taken off of u-tube.
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 16:32:19 GMT -6
This is a earlier take. The Mufon meeting shows a screen with the first interview. This interview is what I first seen of the case. At Mufon it was much later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 16:37:21 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing the second video too Lois. The second one looks almost invisible. This also matches other accounts of aliens being able to appear invisible like ghosts. How very odd...
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Post by lois on Jan 15, 2011 23:31:15 GMT -6
This being does cast a shadow on the ground.. I do not know why there is no second one behind the first. I may be wrong but I was sure there were two of them.
The zoo video seems to resemble the stick being. but I always felt it was a hoax. I have never heard any explanation for it.
Lois
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Post by auntym on Apr 9, 2011 14:26:05 GMT -6
The Return of the Stick Figure
Strange Alien Stick-like creatures caught on security camera above Fresno in Yosemite National Park
Uploaded by sierraparahunter on Apr 6, 2011
I did more tests on the original video. Here it is with my tests. I added music so it would not be silent for 3 minutes. Show it to everyone you know and hopefully someone will know what these are! -- A retired couple was having trouble with break-ins in their Yosemite private property and aimed their security camera at the driveway to video visitors. They caught these things on their security camera and called me over to see because they know I am interested in the paranormal. They gave me this digital copy but I can't figure out what the crap they are! They remind me of the Fresno Stick-like creatures but they seem to transfer weight and there are two here. Is one a baby? What are these!? Nightcrawlers? Stickmen? Something new? What?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 14:49:17 GMT -6
Spooky...
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Post by lois on Apr 9, 2011 14:59:22 GMT -6
Auntym, I never came back here.. Just now seen this post, weird shape for any being..
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Post by lois on Apr 9, 2011 15:02:30 GMT -6
The last video seems to be out west also..
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Post by skywalker on Apr 9, 2011 15:08:09 GMT -6
It said it was filmed in Yosemite which is also in California just north of Fresno.
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Post by lois on Apr 9, 2011 16:32:26 GMT -6
Thats right I'm thinking tetons
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Post by skywalker on Apr 9, 2011 18:38:46 GMT -6
The last video from Yosemite is a hoax. It's two people wearing baggy white pants walking backwards down the hill. They used a computer to erase the top parts of the bodies so all you can see are the legs. Stupid hoaxers. The first video that was from Fresno I ain't got a clue about. It looks like some tiny little alien-ghost type dudes. Beats the heck outta me.
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Post by auntym on Apr 9, 2011 18:46:00 GMT -6
The last video from Yosemite is a hoax. It's two people wearing baggy white pants walking backwards down the hill. They used a computer to erase the top parts of the bodies so all you can see are the legs. Stupid hoaxers. The first video that was from Fresno I ain't got a clue about. It looks like some tiny little alien-ghost type dudes. Beats the heck outta me. i thought they were both from fresno??
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Post by skywalker on Apr 9, 2011 19:04:44 GMT -6
The last one was supposedly filmed at Yosemite which is a national park just north of Fresno. The people who owned the property might have lived in Fresno possibly. I don't know for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 20:03:02 GMT -6
That was said of the first video's too Sky when they were published in 2007..wearing dark clothes and running strips of 'glow in the dark' material. It was supposed to be a school prank but once it took off the kids didn't know how to worm out of it without getting in trouble. Apparently they were where they were not supposed to be. I'll admit..it looks creepy
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Post by skywalker on Apr 11, 2011 21:07:09 GMT -6
If they were both hoaxes then that dude who gave MUFON the tape would have had to be in on it wouldn't he? He claimed it came from a security camera but they would have had to digitally erase the upper parts of their worthless hoaxer bodies. It does look very similar to the last one. The last one was an obvious fraud. Stupid hoaxers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2011 23:31:39 GMT -6
~nods~ makes it hard to make the subject credible with fools playing games.
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Post by casper on Apr 12, 2011 12:22:49 GMT -6
Are all of those videos fakes? I could see the last one was a hoax after skywalker said it was somebody walking down a hill but how could they amke a security camera a fake? What about the one in the zoo with the goat? Was that a fake too?
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Post by skywalker on Apr 12, 2011 18:31:34 GMT -6
I'm afraid so, dude. Stupid hoaxers.
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Post by lois on Apr 12, 2011 20:16:26 GMT -6
Here is another I remember seeing awhile back..
Watch behind the interview..
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Post by lois on Apr 13, 2011 21:40:53 GMT -6
The above is not the same video which it appears to be on cover.
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