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Post by skywalker on Feb 4, 2012 8:16:56 GMT -6
They will probably remake that movie today and show a triangle melted through the ice. I wonder what people would have thought if that thing in the Baltic was shaped like a triangle instead of a circle? I bet they would not have jumped to the conclusion it was a UFO. I don't think the general public has been exposed to the triangles as much as they have the flying saucers.
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Post by Steve on Feb 4, 2012 16:20:30 GMT -6
You seldom hear or read of many 'flying saucer' shape reports any more. They seem to be just lights doing unusual movements that attract attention to be considered unusual enough to report. Any object shape seems to be more whatever pattern the lights display at that moment. Of the 360 plus cases I did for Mufon, there were countless 'lights', many IFO's, a number of triangles, some disks. several landing reports. One landing turned out to be 'Marasmius oreades' (fairy rings) - a classic old mis-identification of a ground turf fungus - mis-thinking something must have landed and radiation effecting the ground cover. I did have one really interesting landing case - or near ground sighting. Most UFO reports seldom actually seem to touch down or press imprints in the soil, and this one was no exception. This took place on Miller mountain, the mountain closest to Mount Shasta in northern California in September 2005. It disappeared or dematerialized before two hunters in the snow. The snow was helpful because it reveals tracks or imprints or not. In this case not. Road had only one way in or out, so whatever it was, was not another ground vehicle. It rattled them and they have never returned there, only reporting it a year later. Historical checks found a big foot sighting near by several years earlier. I always make note of such historical facts for any comprehensive case file, but I am not one who connects big foots with UFO's. I see these as two social syndromes crossing coincidentally unless direct evidence should surface to directly connect them somehow. I think someone has done a new 'The thing' film recently. Hated the second remake, though it is closer to the original story. The first is far more entertaining - a time when films had actual story characters. Characters in most recent films and their actors that portray them are all usually easy to forget total blanks. I noticed in TEOR another Northern California case near Mount Shasta posted a day or so ago. I remember interviewing this same couple, with the horses and their claims of friendly aliens - here to prevent earthquakes and other things to make all our lives comfortable for us humans. How would they know that? I thought their case was a hoax if I recall correctly. I certainly did not have any circumstantial evidence to think differently in their case anyway. There have been many interesting stories from there. There is this unspoken undercurrent from many residents living in this pretty Northern California area who seem to see and experience many things they interpret as UFOs that once trusting, will open up and share to you. Many - but not all - living there seem to be pre-wired by New Age beliefs who interpret unusual events that way. Not a judgment, but a frank observation. A local cultural thing that quietly hums in the background. Ironically in the very center geographically of all this is also where SETI has established it's Hat Creek radio observatory 290 miles north of UC Berkeley funded for pretty much by Bill Gates. This radio observatory as most of us know is established to search for elusive radio signals searching for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Amusingly it stands there as if like some 'Fort Apache' of established science in a wilderness of heretical New Age and mystical ancient beliefs surrounding that sacred mountain. One couple who has reported alien abduction experiences to me lived just 7 miles west of Hat Creek, the objects or lights they report often would approach and depart flying directly over the observatory. Contact? Ironic isn't it. But it says a lot to me in many ways. A seemingly wide contrast in focal length and aperture of both equipment and human perspectives. It illustrates poignantly the wide gulf that exists often between public popular opinion and experiences perhaps with UFOs and 'grant based' science. Mount Shasta has had a long and deeply established mystical New Age connection there locally. This has to be taken into account and watched for in any objective investigation there. It is a beautiful mountain and is often more mentioned related to hikers dying there exposed to the elements of weather or climbing accidents. Back to the Baltic, it has the best conditions of any ocean area for preserving ship wrecks, few wood boring organisms, and lower than normal salt content. Steve
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Post by swamprat on May 29, 2012 14:48:01 GMT -6
The truth is out there about UFO in Baltic Sea, Swedish scientists say
By Gene J. Koprowski Published May 29, 2012 FoxNews.com Swedish scientists plan to explore a mystery ripped straight from the “The X-Files.” Rather than Mulder and Scully, this adventure features Swedish researchers Peter Lindberg and Dennis Asberg. They too know the truth is out there -- and in mere days plan to visit what they call the “Baltic Anomaly.” Last summer, while on a treasure hunt between Sweden and Finland, the pair and their research associates made headlines worldwide with the discovery of a 200-foot wide unidentified object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. Now a team of oceanographers, engineers and deep sea divers will return to the site Friday, June 1, for a 6 to 10 day trip. They want to find out once and for all what it really is.“We don’t know whether it is a natural phenomenon, or an object,” Lindberg, captain of the Ocean Explorer, told FoxNews.com. “We saw it on sonar when we were searching for a wreck from World War I. This circular object just turned up on the monitor.” “We’ll be searching the area in a number of ways,” Lindberg explained. “We’ll use sonar to make 3D images of the bottom, the clay bottom, of that part of the sea. We’ll send down deep-sea divers too. And a camera robot. We’ll also take samples from the sea bed and measure them for toxicities and radiation.” At this point, Lindberg said, he and his colleagues “don’t know more than anyone else what it is” down there for certain. But he’s willing to speculate as to the possibilities. The crash debris could be from a meteor, he told FoxNews.com. It could a naturally occurring gas well discovery -- located interestingly enough in international waters, he added. Or, he muses, it could be the remains of a Russian warship from the late 19th century. “I don’t think it’s an ordinary stone formation, or cargo dropped from a ship,” Lindberg said. “But it can be a lot of things. If it’s not manmade, and was made by another form of intelligent life, it would be very lucky. I’ve never won the lottery before!” Others claim that the object, located 300 feet beneath the surface of the Baltic Sea, may be a natural formation, or even an emerging volcano. The Ocean Explorer crew includes 13 researchers, including a sonar expert, and a camera crew from Swedish TV that will document the event. Lindberg said he is in negotiations with Microsoft to see if the event can be carried live on the Internet, from the remote location in international waters via video streaming. “We’re working with Microsoft on that, but nothing is final yet. Tell them we want to do a deal,” he joked. The exploration is funded by private investors and bank notes that Ocean Explorer has secured, said Lindberg. The initial discovery of the unidentified sea object was made during a trek to find Swedish commercial ships sunk by the German Navy during World War I last summer. Read more: www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/?cmpid=NL_SciTech#ixzz1wIDUwRek
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Post by charles on May 29, 2012 16:48:36 GMT -6
Hi all! Sky - going back to your reply #4 about Stonehenge type structure under water, let me show you the castle at Harlech in Wales: When it was first built (late 13th century) it was on the edge of the land and was accessible by sea - which would be a little difficult today (it's around 200ft above sea level!) unless using a DUKW ;D ;D !! TTFN! Take care, seek peace and SMILE! Charles
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Post by skywalker on May 30, 2012 8:31:45 GMT -6
That brings up an interesting dilemma. Some stonehenge type circles have been found underwater just off the coast of England because the sea levels are rising due to the melting of the glaciers after the Ice Age ended, yet here this castle is far out of the water because the water level is falling? How can the water be rising and falling at the same time? I think I remember reading somewhere that during the Ice Age England was covered by massive glaciers that were squashing the land because of how heavy they were and that since they melted the land has actually been rising up out of the water. That would explain how the castle got so high up but why would the other stonehenge monuments be under water if the land is rising? Could it be that the country is tilting somehow...maybe rising at one end and being submerged by the rising water at the other? I can't wait to find out what that circle thing is. I still wish I could be one of the people diving on it. I'll wait and see what it is though so I can know if it is worth going all the way over there. It's probably just a big rock...
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Post by auntym on May 30, 2012 11:03:08 GMT -6
www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/ The truth is out there about UFO in Baltic Sea, Swedish scientists say[/color] By Gene J. Koprowski Published May 29, 2012 Team Ocean Explorer finds UFO in Baltic Team Ocean Explorer said this image shows 300m "drag marks" around an unidentified -- possibly flying -- object. (Ocean Explorer/Peter Lindberg) Team Ocean Explorer finds UFO in Baltic Team Ocean Explorer said this image shows 300m "drag marks" around an unidentified -- possibly flying -- object. (Ocean Explorer/Peter Lindberg) Swedish scientists plan to explore a mystery ripped straight from the “The X-Files.” Rather than Mulder and Scully, this adventure features Swedish researchers Peter Lindberg and Dennis Asberg. They too know the truth is out there -- and in mere days plan to visit what they call the “Baltic Anomaly.” Last summer, while on a treasure hunt between Sweden and Finland, the pair and their research associates made headlines worldwide with the discovery of a 200-foot wide unidentified object at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. Now a team of oceanographers, engineers and deep sea divers will return to the site Friday, June 1, for a 6 to 10 day trip. They want to find out once and for all what it really is. “We don’t know whether it is a natural phenomenon, or an object,” Lindberg, captain of the Ocean Explorer, told FoxNews.com. “We saw it on sonar when we were searching for a wreck from World War I. This circular object just turned up on the monitor.” The discovery was a worldwide news event, covered in the popular press, the scientific press and in the blogosphere. Many speculated that the discovery was of a long-lost unidentified flying object (UFO), that crashed into the sea -- evoking Duchovny’s alien-hunting character on the TV show. Lindberg is clearly aware of the connection: The logo for his “OceanX Team” is clearly meant to evoke the X-Files logo. But is the truth out there this time? He aims to find out. CONTINUE READING: www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/29/truth-is-out-there-about-ufo-in-baltic-sea-swedish-scientists-say/
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Post by skywalker on Jun 2, 2012 17:31:31 GMT -6
The crew that was on their way to investigate the underwater object in the Baltic have reported that they are being delayed due to large scale military "exercises." Dennis Asberg, one of the leaders of the expedition said, “Right now it’s a military exercise in the area where both Russians and Americans are involved. I can not help but wonder why it is happening right now." I can't help but wonder also...
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Post by swamprat on Jun 4, 2012 18:49:07 GMT -6
The Sarasota Herald-Tribune
De Void
Why no live cam on the Baltic UFO?Monday, June 4, 2012 by Billy Cox If it seems like the quality and productivity of De Void has been flagging lately — more than usual, anyway — it’s going to get even worse over the next couple of weeks. De Void’s energies have been diverted towards coverage of hometown rez Nik Wallenda as he prepares to skywalk Niagara Falls on June 15. Actually, that should be pretty cool. The only way it could be cooler is if the weenies at Disney subsidiary ABC, which is broadcasting the event in prime-time, would let the guy do it the way he wants, i.e., without a safety harness. The network suits pretend to be enfatuated with reality programming, but when forced to man-up to the concept of serious spontaneity, these boys just can’t dance. Speaking of reality TV … It’s now day four into a Swedish expedition’s quest to revisit what a lot of people are speculating may be the remains of a UFO in the Baltic Sea. It’s probably a pile of rocks, but who cares. Here’s the question: Why isn’t this a reality show? Holey moley, you’ve got “Storage Wars” and “Hoarders” and “Swamp People” but no live coverage of an attempt to reach what any decent marketing department can hype as a crashed alien spaceship? Come on — people will watch anything. Remember how exciting that Gulf of Mexico thing was two years ago? Ocean Explorer, the Swedish company that discovered the Baltic anomaly in 300 feet of water last year, really missed the boat. The thing down there is something like 196 feet in diameter and left what some corners are describing as a 1,300 foot-long tail. Ocean Explorer is committing robotics, remote-controlled cameras and deep-sea divers to solving the riddle. Imagine how you could ratchet up the tension during the descent phase by cueing a little “Tubular Bells” action or some other popular soundtrack. Even better: Now we’re hearing rumors that military vessels are blocking Ocean Explorer’s path to the mystery, whose coordinates the firm has not made public. Well, this much is true: The Baltic will be buzzing with naval activity from now through June 16. That’s because joint naval exercises involving the U.S., Russia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Georgia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, The Netherlands, Poland, and Sweden — called Baltic Operations, or BALTOPS — are staged there annually. But what if BALTOPS was really a smokescreen for a recovery operation? Imagine the ratings if the Ocean Explorer odyssey was shooting live and the publicity machine played it right. These guys should take lessons from National Geographic. NatGeo really knows how to wring water from a stone. Next time, we’ll review its “Chasing UFOs” reality series. devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13057/why-no-live-cam-on-the-baltic-ufo/
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Post by skywalker on Jun 4, 2012 19:32:43 GMT -6
You would think the explorer dudes would have known about the joint Navy exercises if they are that big and happen every year. Did it never even cross their minds while they were planning this little trip?
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Post by swamprat on Jun 12, 2012 14:11:58 GMT -6
Many thanks to Sloke on Casebook for finding this. Baltic Anomaly: OceanX Team Update Posted on June 12th, 2012 Before getting into a recap on yesterday, the main news is that there is supposed to be a press release this week from the OceanX team on their findings - (not a press conference) as some have wrongly suggested. Also a source close to the crew yesterday suggested that the news coming soon would be in his words – “AMAZING”.There has been no mainstream coverage at all since the new mission started, however there may be a media embargo enforced at present by the Swedish TV channel that has part-funded the operating costs of the mission. If a reporting embargo is in force, then there may be a co-ordinated release of information among many mainstream outlets, but this possibility remains to be seen. Yesterday, the OceanX team made an unexpected trip back to shore to stock up on more supplies before resuming their adventure. A local Swedish man (Morgan Andersson) who has been following the exploits on Facebook and lives nearby, came accross the ship “Ancylus” docked in Norrtälje harbour. The ship was apparently awaiting the arrival of another diesel supply ship for in order to refuel – meanwhile the crew of the Ancylus took advantage of their time ashore and headed off to the pub. According to Andersson, he spent time chatting with some of the crew who seemed glad to be back on dry land for a while. On hearing the news, frenzied Facebook users encouraged him to find out as much as he could, and so after talking with various crew members it became obvious that they were not up for talking about what they had found. Interested individuals chatting beside the ship Ancylus... The team’s website has been close to useless where updates are concerned, with many people resorting to contacting the TV documentary offices out of frustration in an effort to find out more. Meanwhile the group’s Facebook page went into meltdown overnight as it’s membership surged by a few thousand people. Frustratingly, the rapid influx of newbies making pointless postings and going over old ground has derailed what was a very cohesive group. The newbies were also joined by a seemingly endless procession of trolls peddling incorrect information from various blogs looking for sensationalist headlines. Although there is a great deal of frustration at present among people desperate to know what the object is, it is widely thought that the team want to properly and scientifically document what they have found before any announcement is made. The facts again.• There are THREE objects of interest – the main circular anomaly, a smaller secondary object like a “Gothic church window” 200 metres away and a 90ft high and 900ft wide rock outcrop with a crack running through it some 1500 metres South. The team have stated they are not really interested in the second anomaly, although the reason for this is unclear, given that it may be a fragment of the main anomaly that broke off on impact. • The objects lie in 80-85 metres depth of water. • Visibility is 2-3 feet maximum. • The object is 60 metres (approx 200ft wide) roughly equivalent to the wingspan of Boeing 747. • The main circular anomaly is not a rock formation. • Russian and US Navy ships are NOT looking for the object, nor are they blocking the OceanX team – this is unsubstantiated rumour. The annual BALTOPS operation has nothing to do with the OceanX exploration. If you want to keep up to date on events as they happen then the best source of information is the OceanX Facebook page. : www.facebook.com/groups/178384865554985/truthfall.com/baltic-anomaly-oceanx-team-update/
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Post by swamprat on Jun 15, 2012 15:18:51 GMT -6
Gizmodo
Photos of Mysterious UFO-Shaped Object Sunk In Baltic SeaLast year, a mysterious UFO-shaped 60-foot disc was discovered in the bottom of the Baltic sea by a Swedish ocean exploration team using sonar. Now, that same team has managed to get near it and take photographs. According to diver Stefan Hogeborn, it's unlike anything they've ever seen: "During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don't burn. I can't explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions."At first, the divers thought that the disc was just some kind of rock cliff. But closer observations revealed something different: The object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot. The divers say that there is a 985-foot-long path that can be described "as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it." Peter Lindberg, who is one of the founders of the Swedish Ocean X Team, has always been clear that they are not claiming that this is a spaceship of any kind. They don't, though, know what it is: Read more and view video: gizmodo.com/5918762/divers-explore-mysterious-spaceship+shaped-object-in-baltic-sea/
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Post by skywalker on Jun 15, 2012 16:18:21 GMT -6
Here is the official news release from the team's official website. www.oceanexplorer.se/2012-06-15 NEWS RELEASE
15/6/2012, PRESS RELEASE
THE TREASURE HUNTERS, OCEAN X TEAM, DISCOVERED SOMETHING UNIQUE WHEN THEY DOVE DOWN TO THE MYSTERIOUS CIRCLE-SHAPED OBJECT IN THE BALTIC SEA
Treasure hunters confirm they have found something abnormal in the seabed
STOCKHOLM, Sweden, June 15, 2012
The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot.
“During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team.
The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it.
“First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else. And since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger. As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver“, continues Peter Lindberg, one of the founder Ocean X Team.
Right now, scientists are examining samples from the circle-shaped object, and experts in sonar imaging are processing data from the ship to hopefully shed more light over the mysterious object.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 15, 2012 16:41:42 GMT -6
I wish they would post some darned photos of the bleeping thing. How am I supposed to figure out what it is if I can't see it? Where are the pictures?? I guess I'll just have to use The Force and take a wild guess... They said it is some type of rock formation rising up from the seabed. Mushroom-shaped with jagged edges. That kind of sounds like a volcanic formation to me. It could have been a volcanic plug that pushed up through the seabed and then solidified when it hit the water. The so-called circles of stones on top that look like fire places covered in soot are interesting. That could suggest an archaeological find of some sort. So could the hole leading into the top of it but without seeing photos that is impossible to verify. Those might also just be geological formations. The smooth "runway" area of the sea floor leading away from it could have been caused by ocean currents. Perhaps the stone formation blocks the currents and allows the water to deposit layers of sediment there that normally would not be deposited. These are all just guesses of course since I have no PICTURES to look at!! Do these divers not carry cameras with them? Of course...I guess I can't really blame them for not taking any photos. After all, they are only going down to look at a mysterious underwater thingy that has the whole world's attention...who needs a camera for that right? Maybe the thing is a giant meteor that fell into the ocean and sank down to the bottom. The "runway" could be where it slid along the ocean floor. That is still just a wild guess of course since they didn't take any of those things that you take with a camera. What were they called? Oh yes, I remember...PHOTOS!!! Maybe they are just going to draw a picture of it instead. Maybe they have some world famous artist on board who can draw things even better than a photograph would look. Maybe that's how they are going to show it to us. I Know! They can make a sculpture of it. They can get a big pile of mashed potatoes and make a huge sculpture like in the Close encounters movie, and then we can see what it looks like. Of course it would be a lot easier to just take a picture of it with a camera but that would probably be too easy. After all, these guys are ocean explorers who are used to doing dangerous and complicated adventurous things. A camera would make things to easy...
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Post by auntym on Jun 15, 2012 18:36:59 GMT -6
www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6 Divers Have Released Footage Of A Mysterious 'UFO' In The Baltic Sea[/color] Adam Taylor Jun. 15, 2012, Last year divers reportedly discovered strange objects at the bottom of the Baltic Sea between Sweden and Finland, one apparently the size of a jumbo jet with another smaller object of the same shape nearby. Both appeared to have mysterious "drag marks" beneath them. While initially it was suspected to be a shipwreck, the sizes and shapes appeared to be off. Following international media interest, Ocean Explorer, the Swedish team that found the ship using sonar regions, pledged to return and dive when the waters were calmer. That time has come, and Ocean Explorer has released some of their new footage to Swedish paper Expressen. The video is in Swedish but the images speak for themselves. CLICK TO WATCH VIDEO (In Swedish): www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6For the non-Swedish speakers, here's an account of the dive from Ocean Explorer's team:The Ocean X Team dove down to the circle-shaped object in the Baltic Sea and met something they never experienced before. First they thought it was just stone or a rock cliff, but after further observations the object appeared more as a huge mushroom, rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, with rounded sides and rugged edges. The object had an egg shaped hole leading into it from the top, as an opening. On top of the object they also found strange stone circle formations, almost looking like small fireplaces. The stones were covered in something resembling soot. “During my 20-year diving career, including 6000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn. I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions “, says Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team. Of course, this all sounds completely nuts. Right now the Ocean Explorer Facebook page is awash with conspiracy theories and attempts to explain the video, either through the lens of both scientific discovery or fraud. One point to note — as Jesus Diaz at Gizmodo points out, these guys aren't UFO enthusiasts, they are people who dive for sunken treasure from ancient wrecks, purely for profit. But that doesn't completely rule out the possibility of this being a hoax or viral marketing stunt. Read more: www.businessinsider.com/baltic-sea-ufo-2012-6#ixzz1xuaiCEbH
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 19:27:35 GMT -6
Sky- how could it be a volcanic formation if the article says there has been no reported volcanic activity in the Baltic?
It can't be made out of stone because stones don't burn... right Paulette?
I can't imagine it being coral because of how deep it is... in order for something to burn it has to be "organic" which means it needs to be made out of carbon... pretty much every organic compound on the Earth comes from living things.... or... formerly living things...
Organic materials also need oxygen in order to burn... and there isn't a whole lot of that down at the bottom of the ocean...
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Post by skywalker on Jun 15, 2012 19:58:09 GMT -6
Pictures!! Yes!! ;D Now we are getting somewhere. Thanks, auntym. The thing is definitely some type of geological formation. I would guess most likely volcanic in origin from long before the Baltic was there. It could have been a lava pipe or intrusion that brought lava up in a tube through the crust towards the surface but possibly never broke completely through. Just because there are no active volcanos in the region that doesn't mean there isn't volcanic activity under the ground. When the lava or magma hardened it left a round dome shaped plug that was later exposed due to erosion of the sediment. Example of volcanic dome from Steve's post above I saw horizontal striations along the outer edge of the underwater formation which is evidence that glaciers may have been rubbing against it during the Ice Age. The water level back then would have been several hundred feet lower than it is now so the rock would have been exposed to the surface instead of under water. As the ice was flowing past the rock it cut little horizontal grooves into the surface and along the edges. Example of glacial striations The round "fire pit" formations of stones could also have been formed long ago during or shortly after the Ice Age. There are formations called permafrost circles or patterns that form due to the repeated freezing and thawing of the soil. This can often produce a ring of rocks that would look like a prehistoric fire pit. Example of a permafrost circle As the sea level rose at the end of the Ice Age the rock formation would have been submerged under water and the loose soil would have been washed away leaving the stones behind. As far as the stones burning goes the guy didn't say that it was soot that was there, he just said it was something that looked like soot--meaning a gray colored mud. Ocean sediment often looks gray or dark in color and seeing what he thought looked like fire pits he would naturally assume that he was looking at soot. You have to remember these dudes are underwater explorers not above ground geologists. Another possibility is that the dark colored soot like material could be mud left over from the glaciers. The next time you are out near a glacier go take a look at how dirty the bottom part of it is. Often the ice will almost be completely black from all of the dirt and dust that accumulates in the ice and settles to the bottom as it melts. This is all just an educated guess of course, based on just a couple of photographs and the video but it sounds as good an explanation as any. It will take more serious research to actually confirm it. Whatever it turns out to be, it's definitely not a UFO.
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Post by CitizenK on Jun 15, 2012 21:52:53 GMT -6
Hey cool, pics! This is really neat , glad I popped in to see if there where any
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Post by skywalker on Jun 16, 2012 7:34:25 GMT -6
Here are the images that they showed in the video, I full screened the video, and did a screen shot of each of these images. A couple of them seem to be repeats. One of these images makes the object appear to be very reflective... more reflective than one would assume rocks to be... huh? When you say reflective I'm assuming you are talking about the bright light that seems to be reflecting off of the rock. That could be caused by an overexposure because the camera's light sensor is having trouble adjusting to the lighting conditions. At a depth of 300 feet there is very little natural light coming from the surface. Everything would look either a dark blue or dark brownish-black depending on how muddy the water was. Divers carry extremely bright lights to help them see. The lights have to be bright because water filters the light very quickly. In fact, flashlights designed for diving should not be used out of the water because the light is so powerful it will actually melt the lense. You shine one of those suckers at a rock under water and it is going to have a very bright reflection. The camera's light sensor is struggling to get a reading from the low light conditions that exist underwater, then a blinding bright light is added into the scene which could cause the camera to overexpose the bright light causing it to look even brighter than it actually is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2012 8:45:41 GMT -6
And, most likely this "thing" should be covered by some sort of sediment/material, depending on how long it has been there.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 16, 2012 9:45:05 GMT -6
There is another possibility of what the rings of rock are. Maybe they really are fire pits. Maybe thousands of years ago when the sea level was lower maybe ancient humans were sailing aling and found the rock and landed on it and built some camp fires. Of course since the planet was pretty much covered with ice back then you would have to wonder where they got the fire wood from. It's not like trees grow very well on glaciers. I guess we'll have to wait for the scientific tests to be done to find out for sure.
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Post by skywalker on Jun 16, 2012 9:53:42 GMT -6
Ah Ha!!! I have found an explanation for the soot! Check this out... www.baltic-course.com/eng/energy/?doc=25873It seems that there is a volcano in Iceland that keeps dumping clouds of ash all over the place and it sometimes falls into the Baltic Sea. That could explain the weird "soot" that they discovered. It might really be ash from the volcano.
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Post by auntym on Jun 17, 2012 13:27:57 GMT -6
Ancient UFO Relics In Baltic Sea? 2012
Uploaded by StephenHannardADGUK on Jan 25, 2012
Watch Update Here:
Swedish treasure hunters struck upon a mysterious find at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, are these discs crashed UFOs or something else, as always you decide.
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Post by paulette on Jun 17, 2012 13:31:48 GMT -6
Hmmmm...looks similar.
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Post by auntym on Jun 17, 2012 14:32:49 GMT -6
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=50768
The UFO-shaped object found at the bottom of the Baltic Sea[/color] Meghan Keneally – Daily Mail June 17, 2012 Pictured: The UFO-shaped object found at the bottom of the Baltic Sea Sceptics expected that a deep-water dive would debunk the slew of extra-terrestrial theories surrounding an unidentified object sitting at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. But the Swedish expedition team that took the plunge surfaced with more questions than answers – and certainly no solution to its origins. The divers found that the object, which some have likened to the Millennium Falcon because of its unusual round outline, was raised about 10 to 13ft above the seabed and curved in at the sides, giving it a mushroom shape They added that the object has ’rounded sides and rugged edges’ ‘First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else,’ diver Peter Lindberg said in a press release. www.oceanexplorer.se/At the center of the object, which has a 60-meter diameter, has an ‘egg shaped hole leading into it from the top’ Surrounding the hole, they found a strange, unexplained rock formation. Adding fuel to the speculative fire, they said that the rocks looked ‘like small fireplaces’ and the ‘stones were covered in something resembling soot’. ‘Since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger,’ Mr Lindberg continued. A brief video clip of the dive was released to Swedish-language paper Expressen and can be viewed on Gizmodo. gizmodo.com/5918762/divers-explore-mysterious-spaceship+shaped-object-in-baltic-sea‘As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver.’ The soot also proved cause for concern for Mr Lindberg’s colleague on the Ocean X explorer team, Stefan Hogeborn. ‘During my 20-year diving career, including 6,000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don’t burn,’ Mr Hogeborn said in the release. ‘I can’t explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions.’ Another find that they saw in person for the first time was the 985-foot trail that they described ‘as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it’. The object was first found this month last year, but because of a lack of funding and bad timing, they have were not able to pull a team together to see for themselves – just the strange, metallic outline, and a similar disk-shaped object about 200 metres away.
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Post by lois on Jun 17, 2012 21:21:07 GMT -6
I do not see a thing . only rocks in a circle. Freak of nature maybe. It does happen like the face on Mars.
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Post by paulette on Jun 18, 2012 9:54:14 GMT -6
Just saw a more recent picture - looked vaguely like a circle of rocks. Sorry - too busy to find it to post here - on my way out the door...
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Post by skywalker on Jun 19, 2012 10:45:14 GMT -6
The circle of rocks is on top of the great big round rock thingy. Supposedly there are several rock circles like the one in the photos. They can't take a picture of the whole thing because the water is too dirty. They can only see a few feet at a time.
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Post by swamprat on Jun 22, 2012 14:39:08 GMT -6
Baltic Sea UFO/USO disables electronic equipment: Mystery deepensStockholm : Sweden | Jun 22, 2012 By MichelleDevlin While the world awaits eagerly with baited breath, the Ancylus, expedition boat of the Ocean X Team that first discovered the mysterious underwater Baltic Sea circular object, has returned a year later, for the team's first dive down to the mysterious site. The object, which appears like an enormous mushroom rising 3-4 meters/10-13 feet from the seabed, is made from a hard rock like substance, possibly sandstone or concrete, with rounded sides and rugged edges. At the top there is an egg shaped opening, and small soot-covered stones appear to have been placed on top of it in the shape of small fireplaces. Passageways or walls and something that could be a staircase are seen at a 90 degree angle from the top of the sphere. "During my 20-year diving career, including 6,000 dives, I have never seen anything like this. Normally stones don't burn. I can't explain what we saw, and I went down there to answer questions, but I came up with even more questions," said Stefan Hogeborn, one of the divers at Ocean X Team. The path to the object itself can be described as a runway or a downhill path that is flattened at the seabed with the object at the end of it, according a news release posted on the Ocean X website. "First we thought this was only stone, but this is something else. And since no volcanic activity has ever been reported in the Baltic Sea the find becomes even stranger. As laymen we can only speculate how this is made by nature, but this is the strangest thing I have ever experienced as a professional diver," continues Peter Lindberg, one of the founder Ocean X Team. "Right now, scientists are examining samples from the circle-shaped object, and experts in sonar imaging are processing data from the ship to hopefully shed more light over the mysterious object," the news relase reports. Members of the underwater team were completely dwarfed by the enormous object, which divers attempted to photograph, with some difficulty. Strange anomalies occured when electronic equipment came into close proximity to the object. A shipboard dive computer first registered the water temperature at the object's level at minus one degree, which would not be possible as the water would be frozen. Further strange phenomenon occured once the team was underwater - the camera stopped working when they approached the object. A satellite on the ship stopped working when they stopped over the object, resumed working once they were 200 metres away from it, then stopped working again as soon as they were situated over top of it again. This mysterious interference with equipment could indicate some type of energy emitting from the sunken object. In two weeks the next expedition of the Ocean X Team will return to the site in order to complete further tests, this time with a geologist-specialist on board. Samples taken from the object have been sent for scientific analysis. The team is 100 percent convinced and confident that they have discovered something very, very unique. Dennis Asberg, Treasure Hunter, speaks of the exciting developments: "... (It could be) a meteorite or an asteroid or say a U-boat from the Cold War, or if it is a UFO - well honestly - it has to be something!" www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12438930-baltic-sea-ufouso-disables-electronic-equipment-mystery-deepens
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2012 16:17:39 GMT -6
Swamp gas ,,,,,,, skyhook,,,,,venus,,,,,
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